Hi everyone :)

I have been browsing this site on and off for about a year and decided to finally say hi ! :)

And hopefully get some info/tips/advice.

I'll give some info:
I was on greenbush.nets breast enhancment program for about 5 months with no breast growth (though i was not taking the tea and massage/cream like i should have i did faithfully take the pills)


I have high testoterone and "low-normal" estrogen levels. (I have Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome and androgen problems eg; hairy,acne ect)

(im not going back on birth control, its horrible for me.)

my metabolism is SUPER fast. im 5'4 and 106 lbs. and im currently..a well no bra size. basicly almost completely flat chested. (im 22 years old)

im just hoping for SOME gain. 1-2 cups sizes would make me happier and i would be satisfied with that. i dont want huge boobs. but of course i want to get on the supplement program that would give me the best and MOST breast growth. I know it can take along time. im ready to give this another try! :)

I see 'breast gain plus' and 'breast success' brand pills all over the internet...has anyone tried these? if so how is/was your progress?

i guess im posting this because searching online is really starting to give me a headache. could someone here with more knowledge maybe give me a basic starting program or suggest products that might better suit my body/hormone levels?

and do these companies really give u your money back?

any feedback is much appreciated really.

oh, and also :

how would i know what amounts of each product/supplement to take daily?

if i dont feel 'tingling' or notice some difference in a certain amount of time would i know my routine was not working?

I'm sorry to hear your previous program didn't work out. Unfortunately, it does take some research to consider all the possibilities and then it takes time chose one and try it and see if it works for you, possibly having to alter it throughout the process or try other things along the way. There's no one fail-proof program that works for everybody everytime when it comes to NBE. If you're looking for a manufactured breast growing pill, it seems like lots have had good results on wonderup. Also, you may consider the PM or the BO route. I personally do my own separate herb program. It's helpful to look at the before and after pics and then go to the personal programs list and research the programs of those who's pics showed good results. Good luck to you! :-)

after researching further on this site I think i should continue to try the single herbs again (or maybe give wonderup a try) because most of the companies online seem to be fauls advertisment :(

im still confussed with how much of each herb to take though.


thanks Lisa :) great info. im trying to get motivated and learn the best way to go!

i think the BO route might be a little scary for me...

i mean it could have bad side effects right?

i think i'll try other methods firstly

Yes, the PM and the BO are more concerning to me because it seems like they are a step beyond herbs in terms of strength and side effects, but I will definitely give them a go in the future if I don't get the results I want with what I'm doing now. The herb dosages can be confusing, you will see that lots of different people are on lots of different doses. As far as my doses you can see my program on the programs page under "it's hard to know what to try" to get an idea of what you might start out with. :-)

hi there,well im yet to start multiple indervidual herbs but iv just started vitex/AC(read through treads n progs etc), iv been on a few brands of NBE pills/creams and to be honerst iv been unsucessful with them.Wonder Up did give me a bit extra,which went when i stoped taking:( but,i only really stopped because of my weight gain), if your thin, and dont gain weight easily i would reccomend it,although i think singular herbs is good becuase you know what your taking, and can choose the ammount you take and disguard what doesnt work etc.
one thing i do reccomend is MASSAGE!!!!-ul here that alot from me :)i use collagen and shea butter at pres)+c program pages I really feel it has plumped me up and given me more defenition in shape,and since my break, i am getting pains and do feel iv gained abit(not a cupsize im afarid)
Im sure ul get alot of advice and encouragement to come,

so good luck, welcome n happy growing

aw thanks so much for the info and encouraging words :) i'll keep everyone posted on my program and plans soon :)

Jess,

Try a simple routine with small dosages to start, and use extracts because they are more potent and more easiy subdivided. That is, most capsules come in 500mg sizes. You may work better by ramping up in 200mg steps. This is more easily done with extracts.

The best extracts are sold by Greenbush. They are non alcoholic and have a 1:1 potency. (1ml of extract = 1000mg ground herb)

Try ramping up on fenugreek extract, saw palmetto extract to start. You can go as high as 1200 mg to set the foundation. Also, take a good multivitamin that contains 15mg of zinc and a good B complex. Take 1 gram of borage oil just before bedtime.

Take your herbs either on an empty stomach or 2 hours after meals. Don't eat anything, except BE components like borage oil, for 3 hours before bedtime.

You will need to massage routine to get the herbs transdermally. A good combination is fenugreek extract and aloe vera gel or evening primrose oil (EPO) or borage oil or olive oil. Use a heated pad set to low for 5 or 10 minutes, massage 1ml of extract into each side until it is absorbed. Then do the same with a small amount of aloe vera gel. Reapply the heated pad for 20 minutes. If you can sleep with the concoction on, all the better.

Do this for three months before evaluating any changes. If you experience growth, raise the amount of fenugreek you are taking slightly to maintain it.

Good luck,

Wahaika

You said that 'breast gain plus' and 'breast success' brand pills are all over the internet. The reason for this is that these companies run affiliate schemes and this encourages people to build their own websites to promote these products and earn comission on any sales.

hey i also have PCOS im on the pill (diane) and i have poor circulation aswell. im going to get some herbs for a cuppla months ie fenugreek and whatever else i can find, and then when i saved up some more money im going to get wonderup
when did u get diagnosed with PCOS? what treatment are u on? did u notice any change with that?

Hey flatkat,
I was diagnosed about 1yr ago. my Dr said i should have been feeling lots of pain from all the cyst bursting. but i didnt feel anything. he could only help by putting me on birthcontrol he said for the high testosterone. it wasnt enough of a problem to do more he said. but after awhile i could not even stay on the pill because of the side effects to my health i felt it was causing. it was getting really bad and dangerous i felt. im returning to a healthier happier state now. though my Dr thinks i really really need to go back on BC, i refuse. Im hoping some natural herbs can help. im not sure what else i should/can or might do at this point.

To Jess and FlatKat,

I have numerous gynae problems..I was diagnosed with endometriosis and PSOC after a laparoscopy in 2003. I came off the pill back in November and went to see a gynaecologist last week (I have regular check ups every 6 months) and she basically called me an idiot for coming of BCP. I've had no bad problems since november. I got mild 'ovarian' pain on my right side back in Jan which was probably a cyst bursting, but apart from that I feel much better not being on BCP. I asked the Dr if there were any other options apart from BCP and she said no. Have your Drs said the same? Surely I don't have to be on BCPs for the rest of my life do i?!!!!

The funniest experience I had was went I had a blood test taken after an appointment and was talking to the nurse about these problems and she told me to go and get pregnant cos it will stop all of the problems for a while. Then when the pain comes back get pregnant again. She said this was the way she had coped with her problems...at first I thought she was joking, but she was being serious aswell!!!! I bet she has about 50 kids at home!!!!

Kx

opps I meant PCOS!!!

lol ive just been on bc too, but i was wandering shouldnt that make my breasts grow? coz my endocrineologist said that if that didnt make and difference nothing would and ive been really apprehensive to try anything because of that ANYBODY know ANYTHING about that?

hey katie thats funny and weird what that nurse said lol

my dr always seems to think im making too big a deal of all this and says i'll gain more weight and have less symptoms ones i have a/some kids lol

but im not going to sit around doing nothing until then lol

i'll give these herbs a try (for my breast and for my hormone side effects to hopefully improve)

I think BC should make your breast larger. some people say it happens quickly some say it takes long. some say their boobs get really large on bc some say only a slight increase. but eveyrone i know who is or has been on bc says they gain weigt and some breast growth.

my dr says bc should help excess hair become slightly less noticable after some time too.

too bad i can not take bc. it really seems to do more harm than good for me though.
it could be because my body is not physically healthy enough at this time. the bc seems to cause me headaches,insomnia,heart palps,tiredness,high blood pressure,and my blood flow seems messed up.

oh oh by the way i wrote down alot of info and all the names of the herbs and such for breast growth and made my dr read it.

before even reading through it he said "oh yeah uh huh hmm yes i know of all this and it wont do any good. oh except the flax+fennel is good for your health. OK BYE SEE U NEXT CHECK UP !"

lol

i was sort of dissapointed but im still going to use the herbs. everyones different. I wont know if these things work or not until i give them a try.

i think im logging in with 2 different screen names sometimes oops lol