hi girls, well like Emmie I started using blossoms soap a week ago and at the same time im doing a detox so no PM or herbs at all for 2 weeks !!! (first time Ive done this in 1 year) and I use the soap every day morning and night by lathering up my boobs and leaving it on ten minutes and rinsing it off. well I didnt expect much but the lovely lady at phytosense herbs (ebay) said it had 4 times more the PM that the cream and its only $14.06 US so I bought 3 bars well even though IM not taking anything else with in 2 days my boobs are tingling and this has continued every day and I am as horny as ..... (oh dear can a clergy say that ?) so this is proof for me that definately topicals go into the blood stream ! my husband noticed last night that my boobs had more curve from the base up !!!! so seeing as this is so cheap I reccommend it to every one as a addition to thier programme youll only lose $14.95 + postage and if you go to phytosense or hoodia trust the lady is called Deborah patrie and she is so nice !!!!! my products arrives quickly to australia. she also uses my experience on her site but it doesnt have a name as I didnt want to use my real nasme and I guess although I offered it Jelly doent soung very real ! the fact that she asked me if she could use my experience and didnt have any before for me makes me feel that shes very credible ! (I have no affiliation with her or the products whatso ever and all the old girls know me here) but Im just sharing some good news love jelly....

oops sorry I made a few spelling mistakes !!! the soap is $14.95 or it was when I bought it the soap should last about 4 to 5 months if only used on the boobs so its a good deal, it will be interesting to hear what Emmie has to say as shes been using it with bovine ovary. I hope its all good for her.. jelly.......

Jelly, that sounds great! Good for you! I have a ? though. should this soap only be used on breaks? or should we incorporate it into our normal routines? I'm still doing research and not sure I understand the whole PM thing. Thanks for your patience with the newbies!
Big Boobies for us ALL!!
Belly

GIRLS I WAS TAKING A HERB THESE 2 WEEKS !!!! I just read my detox pills and the main herb in the one for the bowel cleanse is fenugreek !!! adds up too 1200mg a day !!! and this is detox ????###!!! so that may have had an effect with the blossom soap !!!!!! my problem is that I want to take my PM caps in 2 weeks but my system is getting fenugreek every day !! of course I'll finnish the detox first but then tecquincaly I would still be full of phyto estrogens !!! oh dear !!! I am going well with the PM but still think it can be dangerous as I did feel the intuition that something was not right behind my right knee after taking it 3 weeks (they said women in menopause can just keep taking it) so I stopped for 2 weeks and after about 3 days my leg felt fine again so I would definately say dont take it more than 2 weeks in a row !! my problem is to decide whether to take PM caps now straight after fenugreek detox or not ??? any suggestions please love jelly......

to belly girl, thankyou very much for your encouragement ! well as far as Im concerned I dont think it would hurt to take topical PM soap, cream etc as well as herbs (just dont mix the PM caps with herbs) there are lots of girls here that use PM topicals with herbs taken internally and Ive never heard of a problem good luck love jellyDeeee.....

That's good news Jelly! I have been wanting to try that soap ever since Emmie raved about it. So far I think that you two might be the only ones who have tried it, and both of you think it's good stuff. Maybe I'll be next.... -- Sissy

Does this soap or PM cream interfere with birth control pills?

Hi Jelly, I couldn't find any blossom soap on e-bay can you post a weblink for us please? Emmie has been using it too and it's working pretty good for her as well(her comments are on her program page). Maybe I'll get me some too. ;)

Thank you, aloha

Whatever the mind can conceive, it can achieve...

I found the seller on e-bay here's the link for the auction listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Blossom-s-PREMIUM-Pueraria-Breast-Body-Soap-Enhance_W0QQitemZ170063597160QQihZ007QQcategoryZ72803QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

Whatever the mind can conceive, it can achieve...

Wow this stuff looks great ,Jelly would you advuse that this can be used with any NBE product?
Im happy with how things r going but i want to try this NOW
Well done GD

http://www.blossom-s.com/

BUMP!!!

i have been lazy and havent come on the forum as much... but not lazy about the soap! well, actually i am a BIT lazier with it as i dont use it in the evenings. i needed to cut out some time commitments because i felt i was getting to be a little much, so i put the boobie soap into the shower and its once a day... im slowly cutting out the other stuff i take, including the bo, which i should finish by the end of march. im going to break for a bit and then go on all pm...

i love the soap. it smells lovely, and you know i think it does work? i have the pm cream, which is supposed to be slow acting but i felt tingles on day two or three and i think its because i also use the soap.

the soap and creams have no interference with birth control, according to st herb. they said that the pm pills wont interfere either but that the birth control will interfere with the pm so its a waste of money to get the pm pills if you are on any hormonal birth control. im giving it a shot, though, because im liking the cream so much. if it doesnt work, oh well...

do get the soap off hoodiatrust on ebay... she has great deals on lots of pm stuff... i am ALL about saving money!!

TY Sargent Emmie-i am going to buy a bar right now, just wanted to make sure it wont mess with my other herbs and bc

Hope things r going well 4 u, n stop being lazy and come on the forum more!!!
GD

it takes a couple days/weeks for the soap to kick in, but since it is topical it doesnt interfere with anything else you are taking. just make sure to let it soak in!!

ive been Lazy with a capital L! i will try to come by more... i think my husband is going to come out to visit me at the end of next month for a week so i have to get growing!!

I think I'm going to try that soap, can't hurt. I don't care how lazy you are feeling after your hubby leaves :), you better be here telling us what he thinks of your new boobs. And that's an order soldier!

what a great response girls !!!! but nowone answered my problem re the detox !!!!! please can you read my thread again here and give me a response !!!!! ??????? ok yes I THINK THE SOAP IS FINE WITH ALL THE HERBS INTERNALLY !!!!! girls all youve got to loose is a few dollars and I dont think they will be lost at all !!!! please buy from hoodia trust or phytosense (same lady= deborah) cause the deals are super cheap and she is really lovely she asked if she could use my experience as testimonial which is now on ebay !!! I didnt ask her for any reward and Im not getting one either to my knowledge I just did it cause at least michelle and I are real people with real testimonies I hope you all grw big time that soap is strong !!!!! love jelly son to be DD......

Hi Jelly,
thanks for sharing your good news about the soap with us. I don't like telling people what to do, but I guess you are looking for advice with this detox stuff that has lots of fenugreek in it. If it were me, for myself, I would probably discontinue using it now because of it's estrogen qualities since you are going to start back on the PM. Either take nothing and let your body rest or try the other detox herb...Milk thistle isn't it? Or lemonade...Or like I said, just let your body have a rest from the herbs. Of course, you have the best judgement for your own body and you are a smart lady. Just responding because you asked. The PM stuff is reported to be potent and from what I've read, it's not advised to mix or take other things with it. Congratulations on your growth!
Emmie please do let us know what your sweetheart thinks.

Thanks for telling me about this. I am intrested in trying to do NBE without using taking any type of pills.

thankyou Lassysam for helping me :) love jellyDeee...

well i gave the husband a hint... i told him they were bigger, but i didnt tell him WHY or anything. and i only mentioned it once maybe a month ago... his response was "probably water retention from the protein shakes and stuff you drink." THANKS! hes a goon... a loveable goon who i do miss, but a goon... so we will see if he says anything, or if he says the dreaded "no, i think theyre the same..."

jelly i would say you know what to do... get yourself off the current cleanse and if anything just take some milk thistle for a few days, or do the lemonade for a few days (not the whole diet, but just maybe a glass or two a day), or something simple... you want to be all set for the pm!!

Girls some of you asked for the links for deborah's stores here they are !!! ps my boobs are aching big time love jellydeee...


Store Home:
PhytoSense Premium Herbals
http://stores.ebay.com/PhytoSense-Premium-Herbals_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZ1QQfsubZQ2d33QQftidZ2QQtZkm

Products...
Pueraria Breast Care Products
http://stores.ebay.com/PhytoSense-Premium-Herbals_Pueraria-Breast-Care-Products_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZ1QQfsubZ6213446QQftidZ2QQtZkm

Actual links to ebay listing for the soap...maybe this would be best to use?
Blossom-s PREMIUM Pueraria Breast & Body Soap Enhance
http://cgi.ebay.com/Blossom-s-PREMIUM-Pueraria-Breast-Body-Soap-Enhance_W0QQitemZ170089166593QQcategoryZ72803QQcmdZViewItem


please let us know how your going with the products girls and good luck....

hi girls Ive just started me 2nd month of st herb caps and the nausea is not nearly as bad thank goodness ( i hope for growth, i hope for growth )I'm only taking 6 caps as I think the soap is so strong love jelly......

I ordered some soap from the lady you got yours from. Don't know how long it'll take to get to me. Still waiting.... Good luck with your 2nd month on PM. ;)
You must be looking pretty good already as you are now. To bigger ones....
Go Jelly!


Whatever the mind can conceive, it can achieve...

Jelly ! Emmie !
I was just wondering if you guys noticed any particular scent to the soap that you disliked ? If so, is it noticeable ? Thanks a bunch you wonderful girls ! Glad to see things are still progressing so well for you all !

the smell i love... in fact i opened it and thought "if this doesnt work, im going to use it anyway because it smells so good!" it has a sweet, floral scent...

good luck with it, ladies!!!

Hi ladies,

I was wondering if I can use the blossom soap while taking wu pills. I ordered the soap already just yesturday. or should I be using the soap and st herb cream together? would that be too much? please advise!! thanks!

well i ordered this soap! i'm going to add it in with my plan for my last 2 months on wonderup, and hopefully i'll finally experience some growth...thanks girls for sharing this with us, it looks great.

I ordered this too. It sounds interesting. How long do you usually leave the suds on before washing it off?

Hi all, I just want to say that I have cleared it with EVE to enter the forum and at least be available for answering questions regarding the soap. I will be honest about who I am and that I have an interest in promoting the soap...because it is a really great product. I will try not to sound like an advertisement or spam you. I simple want to let you all know that it is available - I have had to reorder more as you are all very interested in trying it, and I will ship internationally. The manufacturer is not interested in selling internationally right now as he is maily a raw materials supplier of PM.

Right now my ebay store is the primary place to get the soap.

You can find all kinds of information at my Ebay store...I have constructed custom pages for posting the research and factual information about Pueraria Mirifica. I have really gone out of my way to provide unbiased and factual information. There are clinical trials, articles and really important information about how phytoestrogens and the active ingredient in PM, miroestrol, in particular, has potent anti-cancer benefits. This is a concern to all of you I know.

There are 2 pages of interest...Breast Enhancement Fact vs Fiction and Pueraria Clinical Trials and Info. Just look for the links at the top of the listing pages or in my store. The links are also on each ad for my products. I want people to be informed about what they are using. I think unbiased data from Pub Med and Published Reports are some of the best ways to inform others.

The soap is made up with the most potent PM Extract on the market. I have collaborated with the manufacturer and he has provided data on the source of the Pueraria - the organic farms in Northern Thailand where stherb sources their Pueraria raw materials. As you may know, or should know, the source of the PM is extremely important. The extract in this soap is made from the "selected species" that has be hybred to contain the highest levels of Miroestrol available today. I have a chemical assay posted on my site and listings, an HPLC test. This is like a fingerprint of a substance. I would recommending only using PM products that contain the selected species PM extract and that has a minimum 5 year harvest cycle. This one does.

The miroestrol in the soap is 90mg/100 grams strong. This is in comparison to 20mg/100grams contained in our competitors products. This is considered the highest in the industry.

Miroestrol is unique to PM and exists ONLY in PM. It can not be found in any other plants. As a phytoestrogen it is more potent than any others (soy, red clover, yam etc). The reason it is so effective is that it is bio-identical to human estradiol and about 500 time more potent than equal amounts of hormone. It is roughly equivalent to 17 beta-estradiol in chemical structure.

You can read more about it on my custom information pages.

As far as using it...it should be used everyday, 2 times if possible. Lather it up on the breast area and leave the suds on the skin for about 5 minutes. The longer the better . It does absorb through the skin.

Compare it to the creams. It has about 2 times the amount of miroestrol in it than any cream available on the market. One bar contains the equivalent of 100, 100mg of PREMIUM GRADE capsules. I say Premium Grade as opposed to "wild grown" pueraria. This is VERY important. Wild grown plants contain little or insignificat amounts of the active...miroestrol. The very inexpensive PM products on the market are all made with "wild grown and collected Pueraria". I will write more about the difference between wild grown and cultivated later. Just know this...buy and use the cultivated variety. The wild grown is not effective. It has very little miroestrol.

I hope you will all get a chance to try this new and really pleasant way of using PM.

Deborah

Hi Jelly,

Since you and I are both in Australia...
Just wondering how much postage worked out to be in Aust. dollars?

Hi, Deborah

Thanks for all of the information on PM! Do you have any thoughts on using it as a topical (either in the form of soap or cream) and then taking different herbs internally at the same time? I'm using hops, fennel, and fenugreek in pill form but have been interested in applying PM. Can these methods be mixed safely? I've often heard that PM should be used alone but wasn't sure if that applied to transdermal usage, too.

Thanks. :)

Hello,

I have been researching and it does appear that you are the only person that sells this product to Aus. Its $12 US a bar on the website but it says the firm do not ship internationally. How much do you charge for postage? I thought that I had previously seen on ebay for $20 postage which is a bit over the top for one bar of soap.
Also I dont have paypal, do you accept direct deposit or any other form of payment?

Ladies why is it that none of these breast pills are in aus? Just USA? The people at breast gain plus said australian customs do not allow their product to be sent to aus at the moment but I still got a competitors product which is strange. BGP must have something in it thats dangerous.

My soap has arrived !!!!!!!!
God i cant wait to try it

Mine arrived also - four days ago. Every once in a while I notice a little soreness, but no miracles yet! haha. Not that I'm expecting any. I'll give it a try though.

js89-Yeh i know im not holding my breath or anything but im gain for new products that are not pills and jelley and emmie seem to like the product-will let you know what i think asap

gingerD - I agree. Anything to stay away from the weight gain......

To jelly/ emmie how long does it take for the blossom soap to arrive to Oz? On Friday the 16th of march I have only ordered 1.
It says it will come at 10am on my email.. but I wont be home because I'm usually at work mon-friday. I just cant wait to try this soap since all i have been using so far is the vitex 1000 which im half way through my second bottle. Plus this is the first thing I have ever ordered online on ebay, so I'm still a newbie.
Good luck everyone! :)

To Emmie/ Jelly

How long does it take 4 the blossom soap to arrive to oz? I ordered it on Friday the 16th of march so last week. I got an email from Debrah aswell saying it will arrive at 10am, but I am never home at 10am because I'm usually at work mon-fri. Do I have to pick it up from the post office?? I hope not!

I'm still a newbie this is my first time I have ordered anything online and on ebay. So for me my only problem with purchasing anything online is not knowing when it will come. :(

Also for the other girls who are wondering what I am on, so far I'm halfway through the second bottle of vitex 1000 from natures own.

So these are the questions:
a)how long does it take if you purchase an order nationally? because I bought jeans aswell on ebay from an Australian seller but I have no idea when they will come also.

b)how long would international orders take like the blossom soap I ordered? Is it within 7 business days?

Please help me someone. I hope I didnt buy them for nothing.

To Emmie/ Jelly

How long does it take 4 the blossom soap to arrive to oz? I ordered it on Friday the 16th of march so last week. I got an email from Debrah aswell saying it will arrive at 10am, but I am never home at 10am because I'm usually at work mon-fri. Do I have to pick it up from the post office?? I hope not!

I'm still a newbie this is my first time I have ordered anything online and on ebay. So for me my only problem with purchasing anything online is not knowing when it will come. :(

Also for the other girls who are wondering what I am on, so far I'm halfway through the second bottle of vitex 1000 from natures own.

So these are the questions:
a)how long does it take if you purchase an order nationally? because I bought jeans aswell on ebay from an Australian seller but I have no idea when they will come also.

b)how long would international orders take like the blossom soap I ordered? Is it within 7 business days?

Please help me someone. I hope I didnt buy them for nothing.

Well I am not where you are...but i ordered mine and received it within 2 or three days. So...I think that you can at least rest assured that it was sent and will arrive...

I ordered the blossoms soap as well fom deborah. Can't wait to start lather up........

I got my soap!! To the girls using it -- do you lather up only your breasts or do you put it all over your body?

hi girls !!!!! wow so many of you waiting for the soap !!! well I really really ;like this product !!!! its been the best topical I have ever used in my nbe journey and I ve tried a few !!!! if you only use the soap on your boobs It will last from approx 3 to 5 months, if yopu rub it over your whole body it wil be used up quicker thats all !!!!! it wont have any extra benifits or bad ones I dont think !!!! what I do is if ive really lathered up then I rub the exess from my hands on my face and neck?decotage area etc.... to hope it may help with anti ageing etc..... I try and leave soap on my breasts at least 5 mins then just rinse off !!!! I think you can use it taking any internal except with your quantity of internal pm !!!! just watch how you feel !!! If you feel any strange aches or tightening along the inside of elbows/ knees pulse spots I WOULD BE VERY CAREFUL !!!! THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE SOAP ITS ABOUT TO MUCH ESTROGEN IN YOUR BODY !!!! I dont think the soap is dangerous at all but just be careful if your taking any other pm product together ok !!!!!! I think the soap is fantastic !!!! ok about australia ! it took about 8 days to get to me ! a note was left from the post office for me as I wasnt home customs had inspected the contents but had not opened the internal plastic around anything !!!!! GOODF LUCK GIRLS love jellyDeeee.....

Jelly---I had what you are describing of strange ache inside my left knee all last week, it's just now starting to go away, I had no idea what it was. It also was at my ankle of that same leg. It just felt really sore---do you think that has anything to do with estrogen?

I'm not even taking all that many pills, and I took way more fenugreek when I was on Wonderup, which I'm not on anymore. This is strange, I've never heard of this...

alcest I am no expert but it could mean thickening of the blood !!! did you continue taking the product while the strange feeling went away ? if so then maybe it wasnt the product ! I will ask my doctor tomorrow !!! and get a blood test !!! well IM trying to be calm ol aunt jelly here but I am scared !!!! I am so glad to have you girls to talk too !!!!! alcest please read shells thread on DVT on the pm forum and keep listening to your body !!!! please take care ! i hope all of this is a big false alarm love jellyDeeee...

Well, ladies I have also ordered the Blossoms soap on ebay, to see how it might augment my routine.

With so many of us jumping at this, we're going to have lots of input for this product pouring in!

GROW.....GROW....GROW!!!!!

(noticed there's another kate here so will now sign name as)
kat

well i lathered up for the 1st time this morning, the soap smells lovely, i put it on about 3 times for the 3 min it says, and i don't know if its because i want to feel somthing, iv had more pains today than i have had in ages-
will see when iv used it more

good luck to all and there soap

Just ordered the soap and decided to buy 2 to receive the freebie, hope it works wonders for me. Can't wait till I receive it.

Has anyone used home make blossom soap, cream ? How did you male it

I saw in another post you thought this soap *might* have bad effects. I had just ordered from her and was wondering if you were taking pills also and if so how many PM pills? Or is just being on the soap having those effects? I'm just worried since I just bought it and don't want to overload on it. Thanks

hi pleased to meet you :) no I dont think the soap is dangerous !!!! I tthink it is wonderful !!!!!! I love it !!!! I dont even know if the capsules are possibly dangerous or not yet as I am having blood tests done !!! so go ahead and enjoy the soap !!!! in fact even though Ive grown from a 34A to a 32D and now a 34D Im still getting tingles with the soap so IM impressed !!!1just be careful with ANYTHING you take internally, listen to your body and youll know if you need to stop good luck love jellyDeeee....

Jelly

Wow!!!! You have really grown. That is great! Are you planning on putting up somemore after pictures. You may have already answered that question before. I need to take a look at your program.

Take Care,
NursedFive

Ha! thought I'd keep this one going for a bit.Don't want to lose touch on how people are doing with this!

I just got my soap TODAY!!!! very excited. But what's more exciting is that an hour after using it, I got ACHES for the first time!!!!!
Sure, tingles come and go for a couple of months and a bit of fullness, but now I've got a throbbing going on that feels simply heavenly (in my sickly sado-masachistic mind!)

I know way too early to know if this will eventually contribute to growth, but very happy with first impressions :)

To the rest who've been using for a bit, anything new to share in this regard?

GROW!!!! I CAN do it!!!! My body WANTS to do it!!!! GROW!!

kat