Hey ladies, I've been doing NBE based on the FtF program and just finishing month two-- nothing happening, no tingles, no twinges, no pains, etc. After the first month I upped the herbal dosages to the max recommended and still nothing. I'm considering a few changes any and all thoughts/feedback would be very appreciated.
I'm 38, 3 kids all breastfed (years folks, lol), 5'3" 115 lbs, I'm very active and healthy, workout 3 times a week, do yoga and belly dancing. I eat a high protein diet, lots of fresh veggie/fruits, etc. Non-smoker too. Zero to little caffiene.
My current program (this is split into three doses morning, late afternoon and bedtime):
fenugreek, 3600 mg
saw palmetto, 5,400 mg
red clover, 2250 mg
PABA, 1000 mg
GABA, 1500, mg
EPO, 3000 mg
Fish oil, 2400 mg
centrum multi-vitamin
1-2 chi massages a day, (usually 1, somedays I have time for 2), using wild yam creme with fenugreek extract added.
One 30g protein shake a day, mid-afternoon.
I'm pretty bummed I haven't felt anything at all, I've been very very faithful taking the herbs and doing the massages. I'm considering switching to bovine ovary. Also interested in pueraria mirifica. Any suggestions? I know my age is probably a factor. I'd like to buy pueraria mirifica as an extract to make my own soap & massage creme, but am having a hard time finding it in pure extract, does anyone have a source for it?
Thanks in advance for any and all help, reading all the posts here has been interesting!
i wonder if you're taking too much of the herbs? those look to me like pretty high doses - i would suggest doing a cleanse and starting over with much lower doses...
You and I sound fairly similar, I am 37, have 5 boys, and nursed them for nearly a year each, I am 5'2" and 120 pounds and try to hit Curves 2 or 3 times a week. I am also a non smoker and drink about 2 diet drinks a day, so not a ton of caffine.
I take BB pills and I do think that the BO works for many of the women who use it. I was on BB pills for 3 months with nothing then gained about 2 inches in a couple months. I was a 34 A now fitting comfortably into a 34 B. My goal is to be a nice full C. I just ordered some PM cream and soap so I am excited for that to arrive although from what I have read it could be at least a couple weeks or more!
lil dunny, I think I'm ok with dosages, stayed with the lowest dosages recommended in the ftf program for a full month, then have slowly ramped everything up. I've been waiting for even the slightest tingle or soreness to show that something is working and so far nothing. I'll probably stick with this program for another month, that'll be three, then take a full month break as Lucy recommends. You got me thinking about a cleanse too, so I might take something to detox. After that though, I may switch to BO.
Melissa- thanks for you post! This is exactly what I wanted to hear, hope for mommys! I breastfed all three of mine for over two years each, when I add up all the time pregnant or breastfeeding, that's like 9 years-- no wonder my boobs are a little sad. I'm a 34A right now, I have been my whole life outside of breastfeeding when I went up to a B/C. Anyway I'm thinking I'll finish out these herbs for another cycle, then after a break might switch to bovine ovary. How may BB pills are you taking a day?
Glad I could give you some encouragement! :) We all need that sometimes don't we? I have always been a 34 A as well, except for pregnant and breast feeding, so I have been unhappy with my breasts all my life and never really new I could do anything about it! I take 2 bb pills a day, one in the am and one in the pm. Some have growth much quicker than mine, mine was slower, nothing until 3 months, so if you have some growth at first don't be too discouraged or give up! Also some of the women, Michelle Choi for instance have gained like 4 inches compared to my 2! Maybe I am just a slower grower, have been all my life obviously! :)
Feel free to e-mail me anytime!
Melissa
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