i was watching terminator on tv last night at midnight, and every single ad was those stupid "txt me for a fun time" ads. i know they're stupid but i think its disgusting that i cant even watch my favourite movie without having girls with unbelievably large breasts shoved in my face!!! it made me so miserable i went to bed, but i was just so annoyed at how our society worships big breasts. how am i suppose to accept my body the way it is with stupid ads like that? i was really disgusted.
its bad enough that i walk down the street and compare myself to everyone elses bodies, but i cant even escape it in my own home.
also i know its been posted before, but how do u set up your picture page, because i kinda wanted some comments on my starting size.
I agree, media torments women, even though it is completely normal to have small breasts. Personally, I think smaller breasts are more attractive so it doesn't get to me that badly. What bothers me most is trying to find fitted clothes that look as good on me as other women. I just want to be a little closer to an hour glass shape, but 1-2 inches is good enough for me.
To send in pictures, you can email Eve.
forum-admin@ukcentre.com (found at the bottom of the main page)
Just make sure you give your username in the email (so she knows how to title the page) and if you want anything else in there (labels or stats) add those too.
that sort of exaggerated female form used in those sorts of ads is meant to catch your eye and draw your attention - make you look twice. It's a stupid reason to use it, but whether you are male or female, if you saw a woman walking down the street with gigantic breasts in some sleazy top, you wouldn't be able to help looking: it's not something you see everyday and an example of a non-average female form right waved right in front of your face is an unusual site. I think it is sort of a gut reaction that both genders react to when they see something not typical. Exaggerations of the female body make us think about sex, because it is right there in front of our faces, and well, sex sells. It doesn't mean that you are not sexy, sexual, and attractive. It doesn't mean you are inadequate and not womanly in comparison to these women. Most of these women - well pretty much all of them - have implants, and just look at any plastic surgeons page and tell me if you think it looks better to look like a blowup doll and look fake or to be yourself. Most men actually don't like fake breasts. As Courtney Love recently said in response to undoing some of her plastic surgery, "I think looking human is pretty cool." While our culture may be obsessed with large breasts, I think the majority of people actually are growing a little sick of it. How many people do you think actually click on an internet ad showing a woman with huge breasts?! Some of these ad companies are just grasping at straws. The ads bother me too, as a 36C is always portrayed as ideal...but most of Hollywood achieves that through lots of padding or surgery. while the media is powerful, at the end of the day, I think men and women can distinguish between reality and non-reality. The shame of it all is the media making women who don't have giant breasts feel unfeminine. But I saw screw them, because they are just wrong.
Showing someone with big breasts, or implants as the case may be, doesn't mean that people with small and/or natural breasts are inferior or unfeminine. It just means that the company felt that would appeal to some of their target audience, which works out like anything else in life -- some people will be turned on by it and some won't. I don't think it implies anything about how you should feel about your own body or even speaks to how men feel, as every guy has a different preference. Some like bigger boobs or implants, some don't, and I don't see an issue with that. My only objection is the horribe cheese factor.
If the ads featured small boobs, that wouldn't mean that women should run out and get reductions or feel bad for being endowed. There are tons of body types out there and different people to appreciate them, but only certain things are going to be featured in an ad geared towards one segment of the population. I'd say the vast majority of actresses and singers have small or average breasts and they still get a lot of media coverage.
Well I think women should stop blaming the media for their problems with their breast size. So if media didn't worship breasts, you wouldn't either and you'd feel ok? That only says that you give more importantce to the oppinion of the media and the society than your own. There's nothing wrong with giving importance to breasts - they do have an estetic value. But other aspects of a person are more important. Those adds wouldn't do a thing to you if you yourself were convinced that you are worth for other aspect than boobs.
Taking all the reminders of the problem away doesn't solve the problem. If it does, then the problem is actually another - not one's lack of breasts, but their problem with others having them. Other big chested women and people who appreciate big breasts are not responsible for our lack of them. We weren't wronged by them, we were just unlucky.
Media uses the breasts tricks because they work - breasts are appealing. It does try to create a wrong system of values by worshiping breasts above personality, because that would make the add more effective. People who buy the product are those who let the sytem of values be imposed upon them, therefore those who lack enough personal oppinion and self initiated activity to have their own. But the same goes for women who feel miserable because of the adds. The real problem is not in the adds and in the society, it's in you. We can only live in the real world if we accept that it will have influence on us and learn how to deal with them without letting them impede us. We can't live sheltered lives locked inside a box where nothing could get in to hurt our feelings.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Mar 10, 2007 10:48 AM
i understand that breasts sell, and i think all women should be proud of their breasts, big or small, and theres nothing wrong with both males and females appreciating them, but i just dont like that i had to sit through commercial after commercial of pretty much porn. my objection might also have something to do with my boyfriend watching them intently too. he told me he masturbates over these 3 girls he knows coz they have big breasts and he said he doesnt find my breasts sexual coz they are too small.
also i think itd be very hard to deny that the media and society have a huge impact on the way we view breasts. they're not made to be sexual, but society portrays them as being that way, as least thats what i think. and i also think u cant deny that if big breasts werent idolised, we wouldnt want them. disagree if u want but i believe it
Dont worry about them girls!
They're probably unhappy anyway...otherwise they would'nt be doing those ads- they're just dying to be adored.It's Quite sad really that they try so hard. fake breasts are horrible anyway, who wants to look like barbie!? if they're too big they just look silly , think about some of the sexiest women in the media, not all of them have huge breasts.Scarlet johansson for example who's been crowned sexiest woman alive by many mags!Most of the beauty is in the character and attitude! I love my breasts even though they're pretty tiny, i just want a bit more to love thats all!!
take pride ladies.
peachy x
Wow, flatkat. Perhaps your boyfriend can't help what turns him on and maybe he should be respected (just a little bit) for being upfront with you... Either that or he's immature and disrespectful. I think you're the one who would know the difference. I'm so sorry you are in that situation, though. Is this why you're trying to grow boobs, or have you always wanted to?
Actually breasts *are* ment to be sexual from biological and psychological point of view. And sure, our enviroment shapes a lot if not most of what we are, but there is an ammount of infuence that is still normal/ok/healthy and an ammount that is not, because in theory of psychology, there are three factors that shape us - environment, genetic basis and self initiated activity. I'm pretty sure that if breasts weren't used in the media as they are I'd still want them because I'm not very much influenced by it. If breasts were a culutrally insignificent concept, then yeah, probably none of us would want them, cause we wouldn't be brought up with viewing them as an estetic value. But that's not the point, the point is that in this culture (or cultures) breasts do have some value and that nothing is wrong with that. Raising the importance of breasts is bad, because it deminishes the well function of the society or its parts - women get complxes about their small breasts. But by getting the complexes women are also contributing to the increase of the importance of breasts.
I don't think pointing at small chested women who are deemed to be attractive is of much use also, cause this is just another way of increasing importance of breasts, even if from the other direction. People have to realize that breast do have some estetic value, but they are actually not as important that one should feel really really depressed about not havign them. However every individual decides themselves how much importance they give to breasts.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Mar 10, 2007 2:51 PM
I think objectifying women whether they have big breasts or not generally is wrong. Why are there so many half naked to naked women out there but we hardly ever see half naked men? Guys go for magazines etc. with naked women on them, and women are less attracted by naked men, it is simple marketing strategy and I think it makes me sick too. If you need to have someone naked or something to sell it better what does that tell you? When do we ever see a pc or car magazine without a woman showing half of her body on it?
I don't think extremely big breasts attractive either, but to me when they are right in my face I simply don't like it because I generally don't need to look at other peoples naked bodies, no matter what size they are or look like if I wanted that I could buy the magazines or watch porn channels. There is a place for everything and I agree that we should have a choice if we want to look at certain things or not and to me naked or half naked bodies belong to that category, whether male or female, with big or small boobs doesn't make a difference to me.
I know exactly how you feel! How are women today suppose to feel good about themselves with small breasts if things like that constantly get shoved in our faces!? Even in magazines, they have things like Who's body wears the clothes better? and does anyone notice it's always the women with the bigger breasts?!
I understand that it's not their fault that we have smaller breasts. It's just that every time we (or I at least) see them, my confidence goes down and it hurts because I know I shouldn't feel like that but I do!
Flatkat, I'm sorry you're boyfriend said that to you. That's horrible. Personally, I think it's wrong that he puts you down because of one feature. But I do agree with you, the media and our society has an impact on how we views breasts.
With Lisa121's post...why is it we don't see more half-naked men on magazines and on TV? In every movie, there is ALWAYS some kind of sex scene or love scene where the GIRL is taking off her clothes, or where the GIRL is wearing nothing. You never see the men do that in anything.
Actually moon, breasts are not exactly "meant to be sexualized." Breasts are a secondary sexual feature, which simply means they help serve a reproductive function - nursing. Western culture (and not all of Western culture) and some Asian cultures highly sexualize breasts. But if you go to certain parts of Africa and describe how men sexually manipulate female breasts they actually find it ridiculous and laugh - they make jokes about a grown man acting like an infant. Nothing is meant to be sexualized - really anything can be sexualized and it is. Feet, legs, stomachs, hands, even eyeballs. But across most cultures you will see genetalia and people's behinds are sexual, because those parts are necessary or remind of us the sexual act itself. There is nothing wrong with sexualizing other parts of the body - there is just no part of the body that is supposed to be sexualized. It is up to the individual and is often dictated by the culture.
I am really, really sorry about what your boyfriend said to you. It is really, really wrong in my mind, and I don't see it as a point of honesty. No woman should ever be told by the person they are with that a part of their body is too big or small and that because of that their boyfriend doesn't find that part of them sexually attractive. Because the contrast to that is that he is very turned on by that part of the body in other women that look different. So you are clearly getting the message that you don't measure up, so I understand why this bothers you so much. There are plenty of men out there that will be attracted to you BECAUSE you have small breasts and will love them - and they will probably have a lot more tact and sensitivity than your boyfriend does.
I had a boyfriend who I loved very much (and who loved me very much) say pretty much word for word to me what your boyfriend said to you. It bothered me so much that I actually decided to get breast implants. I really regretted the decision and only had them for one year. In that year, I had a group of guys I hung out with at work, and they just considered me one of the guys. One day they were talking about how they don't like large breasts and found small breasts much more attractive. Now I had been in this situation before when I did not have implants, and always thought the guys were full of it and just saying it to be nice. But this time I was almost a D cup and I was hearing it. I've heard plenty of men say it since. And even that boyfriend who said those hurtful things to me about my body that led me to want the surgery (he's one of my best friends) now says he finds small breasts more attractive. Ends up he had never been with a girl with large breasts, and when he finally was, they weren't what he thought they would be. I don't know how old you are, but he was 18 or 19 when he said that to me, and is almost 27 now. A lot of young guys just don't know what they like because they haven't had much experience. My boyfriend now told me about the best thing he could possibly say about my body. He said that for him, I have the perfect body. Men like different things, but I know what he likes, and to know that I am everything he could want physically, well...that just felt great after everything I went through with surgery and feeling bad about my body for so many years. There is love and personality, sense of humor, intelligence - all those things that have nothing to do with my breasts or my body - but to know the person I am will thinks I am the total package, well, I just think that is what I deserve and what we all deserve. And I definately think it is possible for everyone.
I have also heard many, many men say that they prefer small or medium breasts, NOT big ones. It seems like its mostly women judging eachother on who has bigger breasts.
Also, media commercials to me are offensive in many, many ways, not just because of the big boob-job breasts in your face. I just don't want someone else telling me what to think and feel, which is exactly what they are trying to do. Influence how we think and feel about ourselves and the world so that we will do what they want us to do, which is primarily to buy their products. Yuck, and no thank you. I don't even watch tv very much at all anymore, and when I do watch something with the kids, I make sure and mute out all the commercials.
I know how you feel. I have felt for a while that my boyfriend would prefer larger breasts, although he's never come out and said it in so many words. For a while I felt unsexy because of it, and tormented myself-still do sometimes. But, you know what? Breast are not the only thing that makes a woman sexy, and i am sexy dammit! Remember that, woman are sexy by natrue, especially when we are not wasting all our energy criticizing ourselves-and using it to feel good about our bodies, their natural shapes. It can be easer said then done, sure! but just tell yourself every once in a while, you are sexy!
yes...as much as we are here talking about them and working on nbe, breasts are not everything! i have never had a problem attracting male attention, and my best friend is 5'11, blonde, gorgeous, and completely flat-chested. she has guys practically (no...literally) fighting over her. she's got great legs, a great personality...well...i'm sure there are other things men are looking at, and i'm also sure they like her breasts no matter what size they are. the pressure to have large breasts is pretty strong in our culture. just look at salma hayak. she used to have normal, but pretty big breasts. it is pretty obvious that she has gotten some implants since she started her career. i mean...you can just tell they used to be real and are now fake. she was perfect before - i consider that a virtual crime! so i guess my point is, regardless of what your boyfriend said, he is obviously attracted to you, and it isn't just because of your mind! ;) You would be surprised how many actresses and models are actually normal to small. Think of Kate Moss of Gwneth Paltrow or Jennifer Lopez (who is only a small B cup) and think of them with large breasts. Do you really think that would make them sexier or more beautiful? I don't. Most of these images are not remotely real anyways. I have a lot of large breasted friends who would trade with us in a second, and i honestly would not trade with them. even though they are beautiful, i would rather be an a cup than a DD.
if you haven't seen this site, you should look at it and read some of what they write on it. maybe you should even show your boyfriend.
http://www.007b.com/breast_gallery.php
elle (no login)
Re: im completely disgusted
March 10 2007, 10:33 PM
i think it's awfull too, but not just the breasts thing... the way advertisements are shoved in our faces constantly. i think this media worship of larger breasts is so dissapointing, but i have noticed something...it could be possible that because we take so much time worrying about our boobs we amplify it in our minds if that makes any sense? ne way they probably had boob jobs! xxxxxxxxxxxxx
elle (no login)
Re: im completely disgusted
March 10 2007, 10:52 PM
flatkat, i just read what you posted about ur boyfriend i no how you feel ive been in that situation with an ex 100's of years ago. but let me assure you that there are men who find small boobs sexual...i wont go into details but i can promise you my bf has shown me this in intimate ways and descriptions, it sucks ur bf is like that but he must find you attractive for other reasons or you wouldnt be with him, so you are sexy to him! but who cares what he thinks? you are the only one who can make you sexy because sexiness is your personalty + confidence. men can't be allowed to make us feel like peices of meat...choosing what bits they like. so dont let him! think fudge his taste, these are the bits i like about me...flaunt those bits + let other men appreciate them if that makes you feel better. the sexiets part of the body is the brain so feeling good is key xxxx
thanks guys for all your support. i know the media shouldnt affect how we feel about ourselves, but it does still get me down, coz i know they are aiming it at men, trying to show men what they think is sexy, which is usually far from it.
for the record my boyfriend is 17, we've been together 10 months, and i was the first person he kissed, had sex with etc, and ive had um...more experience than him (im a whore lol jk) and i do know that there are guys out there who find me attractive, itd just be nice if i knew, and felt it in my heart, that my boyfriend thought i was more beautiful than anyone else, but im strong enough not to let him hurt me in that way (much). i just get really disgusted when i think about how he thinks about other women, but ill just be patcient while he learns to grow up.