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Hello Tap

March 13 2007 at 12:31 AM

Lisa121  (Login Lisa121)
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Hi Tap, welcome back. I read your post on Melosh's thread, I know how you feel being on NBE for so long. I have been doing NBE since February 2005, and even though I am now measuring 6 cm more than when I started it has been a long process. Taking regular breaks has helped me get through it and I always get a good growth spurt after starting up again as well, so maybe give yourself a break for a few months to get your NBE energy back.

I do think your dosages may be too high though. You really shouldn't need all that Saw Palmetto. Do you have high androgen levels? If not you really shouldn't need much more than about 1.500 mg a day if not less. Maybe take a break, do a cleanse and take half the dosages of each herb? You may just be overdosing and that is the reason why you aren't growing so well, those high dosages often can be rather detrimental than beneficial for progress.

You could also try substituting the SP for Nettle root, that has worked really well for me, plus no weight gain, and you need to take much less than the SP to have the same effect. 500-1000 mg are enough, 500mg should be okay if your androgen levels are in the normal range.
I have been taking folic acid as a supplement for about a month now and this could be helping too, maybe try that, people should be supplementing with that anyway generally, it helps with cell growth and health etc. so it is kind of what we are wanting for NBE anyway.

Try the acupressure massage on pansyclub's massage page, I have been using that for a week and the difference is crazy, I finally hit my 82cm mark which seems I have been waiting for for ages. Not quite what I imagined it would be like but I am slowly inching forward.
I am getting tingles during a time of my cycle where usually all those signs are gone, and even though I am on my period just now I haven't experienced any shrinkage as yet, just waiting for day 5 to measure again, but so far it looks promising. I am not doing any other massages, really can't be bothered with it anymore after all this time and just using about 8 of pansy's acupressure points only takes minutes and seems to be really working.

I hope you see growth again soon. I always take breaks about every 4-5 months because that seems to be the time when I stall, so maybe your receptors just need some cleansing too. Give yourself and your body a break and then start fresh again with lower dosages, hopefully that will do the trick.
Hang in there,
Lisa

 
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thanks

March 13 2007, 12:37 PM 

thanks lisa for your encouragement. I tried the nettle root and my skin and mood went yuk. The SP is great for me. Glad to hear that the accupressure is a viable alternative to massage. I have taken my doses way down and all around... all sorts of stuff... it's all too exhausting... perhaps a break would be good.

Thanks heaps for your care... I'll keep in touch
Love Tap

 
 
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