I have very tender breasts...probably because I started taking BC. Today I got my 9th pill.the past 2 days my breasts are very sore and somehow swollen.
I started taking papaya enzyme supplements 2 days before .
Could the soreness I have be a sign of growth?whether it is due to papaya and soy milk whether to BC?

How exactly does it feel? Are they tingly, intchy? Do you get quick or persidtent stabing pains? Or do they feel like were bruised? For how long do the sensation last? And yes, pains are the one and most important sign of growth, or of sth 'going on'.

they are all day and all night very tender and when I touch them they are itchy.I hope I am growing!Also the nipples are sore and erect all the time.I can feel my breast tissue swollen and my breasts fuller and rounder.

For me (so far anyway) I've only grown when I have soreness. I pretty much always get pains to varying degrees but I've found that it's when I get soreness along with tingling (or in my opinion, what feels like let down when your milk is coming in if you've nursed before) and itching is when I experience growth.

Sounds like you're on your way to some good growth!

Lol that gave me hope Shortcake, I've been having lots of tingling and itching on my new reoutine, less pains tho. What exactly do you mean by soreness tho, as if there were bruised?

I think its different for everyone, some people experience growth and others dont.

Hi! Glad I could give ya some hope! I know how desperately we need that sometimes! haha Yes, the soreness feels very similar to how it would feel if the area was bruised. In fact, when I first started NBE and had soreness it felt so similar to how it feels if I had overworked some muscles or something that I thought it was from massaging too hard and that the underlying muscles were sore, not the breast tissue. But upon inspection (haha) and after I experienced the growth, I realized that it was indeed the tissue. It's just very tender and very sore to the touch. I don't know if you experienced that when you first went through puberty (I sure did, ouch) or if you get soreness with PMS, but it feels exactly like that. I seem to get the soreness/tenderness, then the tingling starts.

I hope that it's the same way for you and that your soreness indicates impending growth! Sure sounds like it could to me!! :)

Yay that exactly what I've been experienceing! It feels like muscleache after exercise and I thoguth it was from agressive massage too, but maybe not. I also had very sore and sensitive nipples. But it all comes and goes and right now I'm not feeling these signs anymore, but I hope they come back. My boobs have looked slightly bigger to me laltely as well. But damn I've lost my measuring tape lol.

So does it eman that people with no pains absolutely ,do not grow? WELL that is disappointing as i dont have any pain or feeling of fullness except when I massage and go to bed..the next morning they feel full. I am also taking wu, so if anyone has had growth without pains,tingles, please make me feel a bit better an d reply here !!I hope it did happen to SOMEONE!!

Question-
I'm really getting bored of just taking Vitex. I miss the tingling feeling you get on estrogenic herbs and I don't get that now. Just swollen boobs and aches from massaging too rough.
So, I know this totally defeats the purpose and I called people out for doing this; if I mix Vitex with a few or two estrogenic herbs [i.e fennel, fenugreek etc] will it still help me to grow or have no effect at all; or maybe even negative effects?

Another question relating to this thread-
Haha. My boobs have been getting very sore as well. I have just a tiny bit of [I think it's] bruising. Tiny brown spots under my boobs and at the sides. Probably from massaging. I am not feeling tingling but it feels like I pulled several muscles in them. Is this growth??

Tiny brown spots? Hmmmm, I'm not sure that sounds like a sign of growth. Could you have broken some blood vessels under the skin?

Ohhh OUCH! That makes sense. I probably did because I massage really roughly.

Don't worry.A lot of people have grown without tingles.I have:) Eventhough it is confusing when you don't experience the feeling everyone is talking about it does happen.I have felt some tingles like once or twice but not as anyone here describes.So i just wanted to help you calm down and hopefully growtb happens.I know how much you would like to feel those pains,but you should know that some have pain without growth and others growth without pain.Wish you the best of luck ;)

Was that to me? Well, if so or not... it gave me a lot of hope that it will work! Thanks :]

I guess that was for US jackie,or rather anyone who needs inspiration with regard to pain thanks a lot sandy..it's just that I hav almost finished a bottle of wu, and massaging religiously,and I feel no pain at all..not liek I am eager for pain, but only because it may eb a sign of growth.. but I guess you are right,,it cant be no pain no gain always because I think I MYSELF have grown a bit..maybe half an inch or more (definitely half an inch) in about a month but I think it is nore from massage than anything else.I am also encouraged to think that tigerlily had no pain and she grew like wow! so I will wait and see..wu seems to be like sleeing inside my body or something heh...

I don't think you must have growing pains when you grow, even though growing pains are common.

Soreness that feels like you pulled a muscle is also one of the growing signs, apart from tingles and stabing pains. I got that with magnets and it actually took me a while to notice and recognise it.