Hi everyone!
Iīve been looking around the forum for a while and decided -a while ago- to take WU and it was quite good but the results, unfortunately, werenīt permanent... however I did decide to go back to it and take something else to see if the results could be a bit more consistent ..I have been taking it for seven weeks now along with Raw Mammary and I have to say I am really happy so far, have never measured but no doubt I am fuller, and feel great! The only thing is that I am not sure if there could be any interaction between the herbs and the glandular therapy which could cause body harm in the medium and long run.. I did ask my doctor but he said he wasnīt knowledgeable about glandular therapy or herbs ?! so he suggested I stopped taking anything for nbe (bit disappointing really). In any case iīm still on it and if I donīt notice any side effects I intend to stick to my plan for around six months and then stop and see if the results are permanent...
Does anyone here have any experience or knowledge about using both herbs and BO or other glandulars??? I would really appreciate your opinions...Thanks a lot in advance!!!

I think it's not recomended to take both herbs and glandulars cause it may be too much and make you stall. How long did you take WU? Results from NBE are usually permanent and if yours weren't it probably wasn't enoguh time and it was just the lutheal swelling that went away after the period. Otherwise cases of results not being permanent are usually due to some big hormonal blow occuring.

I would say for the most part that WU is essentially harmless even in the long run. Since you responded to this in the past you are probably responding to this now.

As far as the Raw Mammary, well that would depend on the chemical nature of the substance. I presume it is from a bovine source?

I know that bovine and porcine ovary are a mixture of estrogen and progesterone, the amount varying depending on seasons, the state of the animal when it was slaughtered (ovulating, post ovulation, post natal - it all makes a big difference as to which hormone would be predominant).

Now with another gland, such as mammary glands - I would presume there would be some estrogen, but probably not very much -after all, the gland responds to hormones, it does not produce hormones itself. So whatever the constituents of mammary glands, they would be in rather small amounts versus what you would get from a gland that actually produces hormones (ie. pituitary, ovary, etc)

So, you are probably safe as far as your health provided the animal slaughtered for the mammary tissue was healthy. There are not going to be any guarantees where this is concerned. Probably it is okay... probably...

However - I question just how much you need the mammary. You could reduce your risk further by dropping it and continuing with just the WU.

Did you stay on WU for 6 months the first time? I would say that 6 months would be the minimal for permanent results. If you are getting results perhaps you should just stay with what works and stay on it for longer.

Just my .02 cents. I am sure more will give their opinions as well.

waxingmoon

This is great insight moon and waxingmoon...really really appreciate it
Yes, I took WU for 6 months a year ago. I am a B cup, but not a really full one. When I was taking WU and around the week before my periods I would fill my B cup bra completely. Then after my period I would be back to normal until around the middle of the menstrual cycle when I would start growing again noticeably. This time round, since I am taking WU + raw mammary what I seem to have gained so far it doesnīt seem to be fluctuating (looks like a more steady result), not sure what is the reason for that though...but as I said so far Iīm happy only a bit concerned about health issues
I thought itīd be good to take something to supplement the strength of WU and see what happened. The Raw Mammary Iīm taking is 'Triple Strength Mammary' from Transformation Inc in the USA(composition x cap: raw mammary concentrate 300 mg/ Blessed Thistle 150mg/ Black cohosh 150mg). I might consider, in a while, taking only WU and sticking to it for longer as you have suggested, it does make a lot of sense.. In the mean time I might try and find a doctor in my area whom I can ask ...In any case I will keep you posted. Thanks again, you are v. helpful

The fluctuations aren't growth, they're water retention due to the hormonal state before the period. This is distinctive of a type of hormonal imbalance called estrogen dominance. The name is a bit misleding, it actually means progesterone deficiency. You should do the hormone balance test that can be found in the newbies forum to find out if you are likely to have it. If so, it' probably why WU didn't work for you. It's known that to have sucess in NBE, it's necessary to restore your hormonal balance, basically that's what NBE is all about, because small breasts seem to be most often a conscequence of a hormonal imbalance. The herb of choice for estrogen dominance if vitex. If the glandular product contains a significant ammount of progesterone then it would probably benefit you as well. But you should do a bit more research so that you have some idea what are you even supposed to do, what your body needs.