Hi boobie hopefuls I just wanted to share my appreciation to everyone that has contributed to the NBE forums. I think we should all embrace and thank those who have educated and helped us thru our NBE programs as this has helped countless women fight some self-esteem and anxiety issues due to their breast size.

Remember, for those that do contribute to these forums it is a form of EDUCATION and RESEARCH. So I congratulate those that have had success but at the same time I do encourage women who haven't had any success to please step forward and share their stories as well, this will also help us a lot!

Anyway, here's my little 2 cents about common herbs I've been taking for the past three months and I wanted to share their BENEFICIAL and BAD side effects:

1) VITEX
(+)Positive: Regular menstrual cycle ( went from 30-32 day cycle to 26-28) and no more breast tenderness nor water retention.
(-)Negative: Hair loss (during the first 2 months, but it has subsided) I did probably lose atleast 20-30 strands every time I combed my hair.

2) SAW PALMETTO
(+)Positive: Healthier & smoother skin, softer hair and less acne
(-)Negative:

3) FENUGREEK
(+)Positive: Slow but noticeable boobie growth
(-)Negative: Bad headaches during my first 2 weeks and the SMELL is quite bad. Some women have noted that they smell like syrup. me on the other hand, BF says I smell more musky and manly (?)

4) BORAGE OIL
(+)Positive: I really think it has improved my circulation and I have more energy taking this
(-)Negative: Mild diarrhea, my stools do feel and look quite softer

5) BOOBIE BATTER w/ massage (VIT. E + OLIVE OIL + FENUGREEK)
(+)Positive: The overall look and feel of my boobies have changed drastically. Better and healthier looking skin condition and alot fuller.
(-)Negative: The smell of fenugreek externally isn't very flattering.

6) NATURAL PROGESTERONE CREAM:
(+)Positive: almost same effects of vitex
(-)Negative: for some odd reason it makes my upper lip (mustache area) burn during the first few days. also, heavier periods and my lower abdomen feels bulkier
*although i've heard PC isn't good for boobie growth, i'm quite estrogen dominant so i'll try this for another month and see if i stall.

7) Multi Vitamin, Vit. E(400IU), Vit. C (1000mg), Calcium w/ Vit. D

8) CHICKEN FEET SOUP and BOILED GREEN PAPAYA (atleast 3 times a week)
*I've heard many positive things about chicken feet soup but even better effects with green papaya. I just added these two 3 weeks ago, we'll see how this goes.

***THINGS I'VE BEEN DYING TO TRY***

a) ST HERB cream and pills
b) B2UP gum
c) BRAVA bra

Please share your stories of the POSITIVES and NEGATIVES of your program. It'll help the NBE hopefuls a lot. THANKS!

have you had any growth?

lmao, musky and manly? oh goodness, i'm not laughing at you, but seriously? musky and manly? lol the fenugreek will cause you to smell like maple syrup or brown sugar, but not manly, perhaps it is the combination of the things your taking?

i would caution against b2up gum, since it is so expensive, but i haven't personally tried it, i wonder which ladies on here have tried it?

you could add a heating pad on top of your boobie batter on LOW for no more 20 mins, don't go over 20 mins though.

the heat will help your boobies absorbe everything better.

i would reccomend adding herbal extracts to your routin, they are twice as potent as capsules, but taking both extracts and capsules is very beneficial.

happy growing!

If you are taking these herbs at the same time, how can you possibly know which herbs are doing what?

Heat actually does more than just hepls to absorb. Heat converts testerone into estrogen and produces another hormone which I can't remember right now, to boost growth. Do a forum search on heat and heating pads to get a better exlpanation. Waxingmoon or Moon will probably remember the details of the hormone thing and heat better than me.

thanks for sharing, some Q's re vitex

Has your hair grown back? Or was it permanent hair loss.....

Beth uses the B2UP gum amongst other things and has had GREAT results.

Hi snowflake! My routine started a bit slow. During the first month I only took Vitex and Saw Palmetto and determined their effects based on my natural body response and the common effects I've read on these forums. On month 2 I added Fenugreek, then 2 weeks after Fenugreek added Borage oil and Progesterone Cream. I made it a point to take things one at a time so I was aware of my bodies response to these herbs and supplements.

Thanks for the heating pad idea! I'll definitely try this one soon.

May,

Yes, more manly and musky! Here's the thing, I've never worn deoderant in my life, i never found this unuseful considering i don't sweat much nor do I smell bad on my underarm area. This isn't the problem, I was taking FG internally (had no problem with smell issues) until I decided to use it in my boobie batter. This is when the stench became very noticeable (enough to repel bf away!)

To answer your question about any growth i've been experiencing. here's the thing, I used to have water retention and breast tenderness, you know, the bigger size prior to your period then it all of a sudden deflates? Well, no more false promises! Whenever my boobies grow, they don't deflate anymore. I wouldn't really consider it "boobie growth" yet. What this is, is more "volume" and "weight" added to my breast plus the skin, shape and overall appearance is ALOT better than 3 months ago.

I need another 3-4 months to really notice if this is working. Till, then let's keep our fingers crossed :)

Hey AuNaturel9,

I was just wondering, do you take fenugreek and vitex at the same time? Waxingmoon advised me not to do this in my thread about progesterone and suggested fennel would be a better option.

Roseability,

Yes, indeed, i do take Vitex and Fenugreek simultaneously. I wonder why this isn't advisable? Any idea? :X

If you choose to use vitex then start and take it daily for at least 3 months. Take it with the estrogenic herbs. There really is no scientific reason to avoid estrogens when using vitex. There is nothing about its method of action that would be reduced when other herbs are used unless those other herbs promote the building of prolactin (that would be the galactogogues - which fenugreek is one of them). You could use fennel or maca with vitex.

Oooops forgot to mention, they are waxingmoon's pearls of wisdom not my own.