Well, I've been on NBE for almost 3 months, not seeing any results as yet, but that's ok, unfortunately I've put on 3kg, my waist & tummy is getting bigger & bigger, I'm feeling & look so bloated, this is really bothering me, I know I need to do a liver cleanse, cos I don't respond to any herbs at all and I'm getting too bloated, so I went to the pharmacy and bought a "Slim + Detox" 20 day programme, should I start to do a cleanse now or wait for another 3 months?

I'm sorry I know this questions had been asked before, I've read all the posted about liver cleanse and detox, but I want to ensure I'm doing the right thing........Should I stop taking all the herbs while on the liver cleanse programme? Or I can do a liver cleanse as well as taking herbs?

more is not always better. They might compete with each other?

I experienced that as well using herbs. It seemed to make my legs and tummy jigglier.
If you use Saw Palmetto that is know to cause cellulite-but I think anything that increases estrogen can do.

Yes, i experienced the same thing from herbs. Cellulite, and a larger, more fatty tummy and legs. I'm not happy with it at all. I've stopped the herbs and am on Vitex now. The cellulite is going away, but the bloating remains. And it can get so bad that I cannot do up my pants! I would stop all herbs and do a cleanse, then go back to herbs if you choose. I think it would be hard to do a cleanse while you are still putting things in your body that might be making you gain weight and bloat.

Ive also experienced that and I heard that it could be bc of saw palmetto.

if youre using SP, maybe try switching to Nettle, which I hear doesnt do that.

Are you sure you're not estrogen dominant and on an inappropriate program?

Hi all

I've started my liver cleanse 4 days ago, because my weight keep going up which is unusual (I normally hard to gain weight), I have no boob growth but I know my tummy is getting bigger and bigger, really frustrating, I stopped all the herbs except PM, cos I'm hoping my body will respond better to PM while I'm on the cleanse, however if my weight not going back down then I will stop taking everything.

I've started NBE 3 months ago, I only take PM when I first started, a month ago I've added calcium, then Fenugreek, Ginkgo, EPO & Omega, I used to take Omega and I have no weight gain, I only take 1x Ginkgo and 1x EPO a day, therefore I assumed both PM & Fenugreek cause weight gain???

Moon, I do lots of homework but I am still very confused about the hormone test, I really don't know weather I am estrogen dominant or something else, I really don't know what I should do.