Hello Girls,

Just thought I would put up this post to say that Wonderup didn't work for me. I took wonderup for 8 months and have had no growth at all. Zilch.

I also took Cayenne for circulation, protein shakes and massaged daily.

This isn't the case for eveyone on WU but I am so disheartened by the whole thing that I have given up on my quest for bigger boobs. I am a 34A and was hoping to reach a 34B.

Good luck to everyone out there, I regularly check back on here to see if anyone has found a new product or had any results.

Penny x

So sorry to hear that.Don't stop so early with BE.Why don't you try BO or PM?

Hi Sandy,

Thanks for your support. I don't know if I can put myself through trying another routine. Although NBE isn't that bad, you can't help but get all excited and when nothing happens it's truly disappointing.

I am not sure where to start with BO or PM - also I take the pill and thought that PM would affect this?

You can check out my program called "Pens Program Page" to see what I was doing.

Mnay Thanks,
Penny x x

Hello Pen,
Yes your program seems really good.You have put a lot of effort in it.Do you have any hormone imbalance?Maybe an estrogenic routine is not good for you.Maybe you need vitex!There are a lot of options so don't give up!I am thinking of buying a 4 months supply of WU but also fear that i'll waist my money and time on it.Somehow i feel positive about it.
I think you should know how your hormones are and from there you can start up with a new routine.I know it is hard but always think of those bigger boobs and you'll get encouraged:)

Sandy,

I don't think I have a hormone imbalance because I had a read through all the possible sypmtoms (someone put on a link to a site on here once) and I don't have any of them.

I wish I could be as positive as you! I will have a look at vitex.

Penny x

You know i once asked Wu site and they told me that people with no hormonal imbalanve won't benefit from Wu since it worked on balancing hormones.Hmm i also don't think i have an imbalance.You got me thinking here!

Vitex is for people with estrogen dominance so if you don't have that you should maybe try out PM since it is stronger or BO.Maybe you can have your hormones checked out by your doctor?

I feel like I have been completely duped! So if I haven't got a hormonal imbalance then perhaps my boobs will never grow on NBE?

I am so confused now. I thought I had a good routine but looking at it now I am thinking how can I change my body if it's not imbalanced?? Can you get a doctor to do a hormone test? I wouldn't know what to say....do you tell them it is for growing your boobies lol.

I just looked at Vitex on http://www.vitaminstuff.com/herbs-vitex.html and it says it can reduce sex drive. Not sure I want that to happen. It also states:

Vitex causes the pituitary gland to decrease production of follicle stimulating horomone (FSH) and to increase production of luteinizing hormone (LH), a hormonal shift that indirectly leads to higher progesterone levels and a decrease of male hormones, or androgens, in the body.

I guess this is the bit that affects NBE but not sure if I need this. Crikey, I thought I was confused before!

Penny x

Not having a hormone imbalance isn't a bad thing.You can try a different routine that increases your estrogen level.Since Wu claims to balance hormones and yours are balanced it won't do the trick.Vitex is for ladies with estrogen dominance so nothing for you!Try individual herbs or Bo,Pm..They all increase estrogen levels.

You can ask your doctor for a blood test which checks your hormones.Tell him/her that you want to know were you stand hormone wise.I did one for my DHEAS and testeterone levels since i thought i might have excess androgen.They were normal though.

There is also the suction method which i forgot to mention.Many have had results with brava and boossom beauty.Check them out!

So with PM do you mean the stuff called St herb or Full Potential and with BO do you mean Bovine Ovary stuff called Bountiful breast?

I hope I don't sound completely ignorant!

Penny x x

I would asdvise a strong estrogenic routine - PM or BO, or suction. Exactly what Sandy said, lol. :P But don't give up!!
Maybe also add nettle root. Are you sure you don't have any symtoms of any imbalance?

Hi Moon,

I checked the hormone list and the only thing that I could remotely relate to was feeling lithargic but I am sure thats just down to work/time of the month etc. Nothing else really jumps out. It's so frustrating, I almost wish something was obvious because then I would know what to do.

I am going to look at PM and BO, but I don't know much about these (I pinned all my hopes on WU) so will need to do alot of research. I am also worried about cost, PM looks pretty expensive - do you need to take any other supplements with it?

Any tips advice you have would be great. I will buy some nettle tea too.

Penny x x x

Penny,
With BO i didn't mean Bountiful,it is too expensive.I meant either Dne brand(Porcine ovary) or vitamin power even though it is tablets not capsules so you have to bare the bad taste.

PM yes there is full potential and St herbs.I don't think they are more expensive than WU though.

Moon,

Few months ago i had 1 bottle of breast xl a very weak product left and i tripled the dose and got pain and swelling in the breasts.It has a similar blend as WU.So just wanted your opinion would This be a growing sign or a sign that WU might workout? Penny's experience got me somehow confused.

Hi Sandy,

I didn't mention that I am in the UK. I have looked for BO here in the UK but I don't think I can get it, can't find it anywhere.

But I did look at the Vitamin Power site which has Raw Glandular - Raw Ovary 150 mg and DNE has Nature's Harbor Ovary 500 mg. Obviously one has a much greater amount of BO 150mg & 500mg, can you tell me which one is better? Are they just different types (seems like a big difference!). I may have to order this from the US if I can't get it here.

Thank you,
Penny x x

The DNE type is from porcine now,it used to be bovine ovary.Vitamin powder is Bovine.They both stimulate estrogen though.But one bad thing about the Vitamin powder is that it is tablets so you will have to bare its bad taste.I used to close my nose and prepare some juice or a shake and drink it aferwards very quickly.The DNE is capsules so you don't taste a thing when you swallow.In BO you will have to take a min of 1500mg and a max of 2800mg.If i were you i would choose the DNE since it is way cheaper and you won't have to swallow all those pills with its nasty taste.But it's your call.Oh and you should always make sure your body temperature isn't bellow 36.2 C.

Also you should check your customs if they allow you to receive such a product.Good luck :)

Hi Sandy,

Thanks for getting back to me so quick!

Unfortunetly I have just researched BO and it is banned in the UK, due to mad cow disease. Oh dear, I am not having much luck :(

Penny x x x

Hi Penny,

I definitely agree with Sandy. If you (or anyone) are considering BO, do NOT purchase Bountiful Breast (BB). BB is way over-priced, plus from personal experience, their customer service sucks. Check out the BO board. I remember reading DNE was a good product.

I think you and I are similar in that I'm also hormonally balanced so it'll be harder for us to develop a successful NBE routine.

Since I've tried several products without success (Wonderup, Greenbush and Natureday), I don't think the herbal route is for me. I also tried BB, had a good response from it early on (itchy boobs), but in the end, had no growth what-so-ever.

Stay motivated and keep trying! Hopefully your persistence will pay off. Good luck :)

Hi Penny! i just wanted to mention to you that if your interested in PM you should look at Peuraria Uk...its not expensive at all. You can check them on ebay or on their site. Heres a link to them on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/BREAST-ENLARGEMENT-100-PURE-PUERARIA-500MG-EXTREME-uk_W0QQitemZ260262794034QQihZ016QQcategoryZ11837QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I found them to be cheaper than St.Herb (although I LOVE St. Herb cream)

Good luck!

Hi Tianna,

I am worried that PM will interfere wtih BCP and I can't come off these because my periods are very heavy. What do you think?

Penny x

Hi SoCal.grl

I am interested in trying BO but am having issues as I am in the UK. It's so frustratig when you hear some girls have luck with WU but I guess that's just how it is.

I am sceptical to try anything else but my desire to have biger boobs gets the better of me.

Penny x x x

P.S I read on the BO board that the DNE website got hacked into and lots of people had their credit cards used on other sites. Yikes!

Oh I forgot you mentioned that. This is why im not on pm, im so confused about the pill thing...
the people at peuraria uk say its ok, but every where else says its not. I really dont know, but if your on the pill it may best not to try. I dont understand why one company says they wont interact while others say they will....

I hope I don't cause any ill feelings ... but I read that blood clots are a risk with Pueraria UK. Please do your research before committing to a product.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/484965/thread/1156078797/last-1182863350/i+have+deep+vein+thombosis

http://www.network54.com/Forum/484965/thread/1193207658/last-1193207966/FOR+SHELL

http://www.network54.com/Forum/484965/thread/1192611485/last-1199845006/Pueraria.co.uk

BCP & PM:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/484965/thread/1210291804/contraceptives+%2B+full+potential-

That's awful about the DNE site.

Yes, NBE is part luck, but mostly consistency and persistence. I share your feelings about bigger breasts. I'm 29 now, started this journey when I was 20. My determination (or stubborness) has prevented me from quitting.

Don't give up just yet, Penny! Hugs from Cali(fornia) ...

I turned 44 last month and I have been trying to increase my bust since I was 22. Yes, I've been doing this off and on for OVER 20 YEARS! I never had any luck with anything I tried until I found this forum last year. Since then I have grown 3 inches in the past 11 months. I've gone from a barely AA cup to a B cup. You should thank your lucky stars that you found this forum at your age. Everything you need to know about NBE is here, so don't give up. Btw, I wish I had been your size when I started!

Wow, FrostedMint - those are great results in just one year. Do you have a program page? Nevermind... I will check right now! But congrats on your growth!

One thing I didn't understand - if your hormones are perfectly balanced already, why haven't your breasts already grown to a good natural size?
Another thing - perhaps your breast cells are all deactivated like the people who use magnets are thinking and that's the reason you haven't grown?

cutie pie, what's considered a "good natural size"? Being hormonally balanced is not the only factor that affects breast growth. Otherwise, all we would need to do is take a blood test, pinpoint which hormones we're lacking in and supplement. NBE is not that simple and straight-forward (one could only wish).

Wow, so much response! Just when I feel like quitting I read that some of your girlies have been doind NBE for 20 odd years. Makes me feel a little silly now.

I feel encouraged to stay on NBE but need to change my program. However, this is the next problem because the 2 methods recommended are going to be very difficult to do:

1. PM messes with BCP so can't do that.
2. BO is banned in the UK cos of mad cow so can't do that either - althought I feel that this may give me results (looks interesting).

Not sure where to turn now, any suggestions? I did try Brava a few years ago and didn't get on well with that at all; my skin became sore and blistered from the dome pressures so had to stop. Was very, very painful. Plus I had no sleep and my partner couldn't bear my mood swings!

The quest continues...

Penny x x x

Penny, I also wanna try BO recently, based in UK. I am not sure about the custom regulations but Nature's Harbor Ovary is from porcine ovary. Do u think they are also banned in UK?

That's a really good point. I have just googled Porcine and it turns out that it is a pig, so won't be banned in the UK.

Would be great if we could find a source here in the UK. I have been looking for BO and thought I found a site but it only had BO at 150mgs, that means taking 12 tablets a day as opposed to the Natures Harbour 500mg which would only mean 4 tablets a day.

The recommened dose for starting BO or PO is apparantly about 1800mgs so you see the problem with buying the 150mgs.

I'll have a look and report back what I find.

If we can't get PO here then importing shouldn't be a problem, but having said that postage and customs might be expensive.

Penny x x x