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July 26 2008 at 3:04 AM
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breast development so far so good (31.0 inches to 33.0 inches)
i am doing a ten day water fast to release my body of unnatural fat deposits/toxins...
i have gained a few inches in my breasts since i started herbs/ massages but my hips are also getting fatter(its always been my thighs that take all the weight while my stomache/ hips remain tiny).

do you think it is safe to take herbs while doing the water fast?
do you think i will lose all the growth i have so far if i do the fast?

thanks please please respond.

 
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Moon
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Re: water fast

July 26 2008, 9:46 AM 

Starvation is an extreme state for the organism with a completely different hormonal profile so I think it's possible to loose breast growth. But importantly, I don't belive that starving for 10 days is beneficial at all, and it's not a halthy way of loosing weight either. You don't need to starve to clanse the body of toxins, you just need to drink lots of liquid and eat a halthy diet with lots of vitamins and antioxidants.

 
 
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July 26 2008, 9:22 PM 

Well why wouldn't it be safe to take herbs?

 
 

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July 27 2008, 1:47 AM 

Yeah, I don't think a water fast is safe at all.

I was recently considering a detox diet (which would have been a restricted food diet) and have read that if you want to go on a liquid only fast (which is probably a lot harder than you think) you should drink lots of fresh fruits and vegetables (juicing) and herbal teas, otherwise going from normal food to only water can make the toxins leave your system too quickly and give you unpleasant side affects such as headaches and nausau.

Regardless, your body needs nutrients to function and only water will not cut it. Sorry, but this idea just sounds scary. Maybe you should do a bit more research on this before you take the plunge.

 
 

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July 27 2008, 1:48 AM 

Oh yeah.. and as for loosing the growth. I'm sure you would loose it because all of a sudden your body has nothing to burn for energy. So where would that energy come from? Your fat reserves (say goodbye to breasts and bum).


 
 

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July 27 2008, 6:07 AM 

I agree that you should not do a 10 day water fast. And yes, it's likely you'll lose breast tissue. Any time your body burns fat, whatever was stored (toxins) are released too. The problem with going below 1200-1500 calories per day is that instead of burning fat, your body begins to burn muscle, which is a very, very bad thing. The body needs protein to function and that's what muscles are made of (primarily from protein building blocks called amino acids). So you can imagine what happens when the body, starved of nutrients, requires proteins. It starts to break down the poor muscles. Think of it like accelerated atrophy of the muscle. It just.. vanishes. You can still burn fat (the very same fat that sometimes holds toxins), but more slowly and without losing muscle, the old-fashioned way. In addition to that, you will maintain lean muscle (including your pectorals, which are beneath the breasts and can help enhance their shape).

 
 
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July 27 2008, 4:15 PM 

Okay, just to add my two cents into why this is a bad idea... this article...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4380907.ece

And even if you are not increasing your water intake - the body responds to a prolonged fast in a very negative way. The human body is made to withstand famine- that is to survive - but this is not optimal living.

NBE is best done when there is optimal health. Not only will your body be under tremendous stress during the fast - it will not recover from this situation readily. You will likely lower your metabolism - not just for the duration of the fast, but possibly for a long time to come. If you make your body think it is subject to famine then it will do its best to build fat reserves - and since you have subjected yourself to all that stress induced cortisol - those fat reserves will head right to your belly.

What everyone has said about how bad this is is right on the mark.

Just one more thing about protein - our hormones are protein based - no protein in diet + body scavenging protein for fuel = incredible hormone imbalance.

If you want to reduce your body toxins - first stop polluting it with junk, then go on a healthy eating plan and stick with it for life.

waxingmoon

 
 

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July 27 2008, 9:09 PM 

it was of extreme benefit to your health to go on a ten day fast twice a year. your body gas extra energy to spend restoring internal organs, make skin clear, and work on balncing your body - this article explains all the benefits of fasting- http://www.falconblanco.com/health/fasting.htmi


doubt someone can become epileptic from drinking too much water.

 
 
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July 28 2008, 1:26 AM 

You can actually die from drinking too much water. The term is hyperhydration or water intoxication.

Here is the wikipedia synopsis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

It used to be less common, but somehow recently it has become more frequent. Many athletes can cause this problem by replacing the water they need but forgetting about electrolytes. It has also happened with people that have done water drinking contests. Apparently it also now happens to those who do 'water -detox.

Epilepsy is just one of the horrible side effects of lowering the body's electrolytes past the safe level. What happened to the woman in the article was tragic, but as I said unfortunately not an isolated incident.

waxingmoon

 
 
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July 28 2008, 9:20 AM 

Waxinmoon made very good points in her posts. I would add that not only you die if you drink huge ammount of water, even drinking a normally increased ammount during summer can cause electrolyte imbalances in the body if you drink pure water without addition of soluted ions. The most frequent symptom of this condition are muscle spasms.

I only read one title on that page - ''why fast'' and almost every statement there is false. I'll explain one by one:

''Probably the most important reason is that the body uses quite a bit of energy to digest food, and when fasting this energy becomes available for other uses.''
This is totally ridiculous. Digestion is the central proccess in which the body acquires energy, so starvin is certainly not an energy saving state. Food is the only source of energy for the organism, aside from itself, so when you don't eat, the body burns itself for energy.

''In the fasting state, the body will scour for dead cells, damaged tissues, fatty deposits, tumors, abscesses''
This is a misleading statement, because the described is happning in the organism at all times, not only in the fasting state.

''The elimination of these obstructions restores the immune system''
This is completely false, the exact opposite is actually true. The immune system needs a lot of proteins for its function, because the antibodies are proteins. In the starvin state the body burns protein not only from muscle, but also from the immune system. Do you know what exactly is the cause of death after about 1-2 months of starvation? Infections because of complete failure of the immune system.

''Fasting restores good digestion and elimination, and peristaltic action is quickened.''
No direct contradictions here, but I doubt this statement is true because the digestive system is designed to receive a regular intake of food, so that is the state in which its function is optimal.

''By eliminating obstructions, by cleansing, detoxification, and purifying the intestines, the blood, and the cells, we can overcome many of our physical ills or handicaps as well as getting a boost in energy. Fasting not only removes obstructions and helps the body to heal itself, it is also rejuvenating and life-extending. These resulting benefits can have lasting affects in your mental and emotional health.''
This almost sounds like an advertizing line to me. Also I'd point out that the majority of toxins in our body don't come from the food, but are produced inside our body and I see no argument that the ammount would decrease during fasting.

''The other very important aspect is that your self-awareness will be elevated... evaluate all that you're doing more objectively... ''
I simply disagree with that. There are so many claims in this text that seem completely ungrounded. Starving is stressful and that has negative impact on mental functions, particulary judgement. Not to mention that the brain is the first organ that suffers when glucose levels drop,which is the reason migrains are very frequent side effects of diets, not to mention a fast.


I have to say I'm almost outraged by this article, because the statements are so untrue that it seems very deliberate, for whatever irrational fanatic reasons. I really don't believe anyone could write such ridiculosities out of ignorance.

 
 
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