Ok im just extremely depressed about my ugly chest. im tired of feeling bad about myself. Its about to ruin my relationship w/ my boyfriend. Just needed to get that off my chest lol.
But I'm ready to do anything possible just to have a normal sized chest which is a full B for me. i cant even fit in a size a bra. pathetic. i take wonderup i massage and im just ready to start adding something more to my rotuine. I tried reading messages but ppl end up arguin for pages and i get lost. so whats a major "thing" or a few "things" i can add to get better results. talking herbs or w/e yall will give me advice on. plz :*( Im just so tired of hating myself. I need this to feel good about myself and love me again. Its really turning me into a monster. thank you all.

Ash,

Don't feel too bad about yourself! I'm a sub A cup myself, so at least know that you are not the only 1 going through with this prob. You're still beautiful. Breasts may be important, but they certainly are NOT everything! Besides, there's plenty of guys out there who don't care how small a woman's boobs are. I'm currently in a relationship with a 'leg & bootie' man myself. XD

Anyhow here's the thread for wonderup advice: http://www.network54.com/Forum/486111/thread/1162921057/last-1176572136/tips+for+wonderup

Good luck and keep your head up! :)

WU is one of the few commercial products with positive feedback and quite high doses so you already have a decent program. You deffinitely shouldn't add more herbs cause you'd stall. Massage is a must of course, and what you possibly need is keep reading and informaing yourself about NBE. You can be the most sucessful when you know your body and theory of NBE really really good. But another thing I'd tell you is that NBE is not only a process of growing breasts, you have to work on your mind too. You have to readjust your mentality, accept yourself and learn to love your breasts. This forum has trully helped me to do that. Feelings of desperation of self-rejection can affect your NBE progress too, they're stress, they may subconsciously sabotage your progress, they make you impatient and take away the will that's so necessary on this long journey. Most likely you'll be at NBE for quite a while so in the meantime you need to find peace within yourself to keep going.

i felt the same way over the summer. i would get so embarrassed when i wore my bikini, wouldn't buy tank tops that i LOVED because i couldn't fill them out like i thought i "should" be able to. i had switched birth control and my hormones were a mess, so NBE was out of the question.

but afte reading this forum, checking out personal program pages and pics, i got a lot of inspiration. moon is right- you have to believe it will work.

i started massaging bout 2 weeks ago. no herbs yet because like i said hormones were crazy before and i just don't have the cash right now to buy the herbs.

i am doing a mixture of tiger lily's description of massage and the fengshui (spelling- sorry) massage under the massage section on the main page. i started drinking soy milk, eating more eggs for protein, got some gelatin casules (haven't started taking them yet- waiting to get my milk thistle, vitamin E and collagin capsules). i massage 2x per day, once in the morning and once at night, then wrap my heated blanket around my chest tightly for about 20 min. i do this directly on the skin- no shirt (the head feels nice plus i think it helps me focus on my breast since i can feel the direct heat and contact). i lay in silence for those 20 minutes, with the room somewhat dim (close the blinds) and imagine my breast getting bigger. think about NOTHING else. i feel by breast tingle and itch slightly, and try to deep breath and just relax. take a few long deep breathes every few minutes apart, but image bringing in the air (really feeeel it come in) and instead of breathing through you chest (your chest usually rises then falls)- do it through you abdomen. it's very relaxing (i'm a nursing student- it's a trick we have patients do that have anxiety) oh yes.. BREATHE THROUGH YOUR NOSE, not mouth.

after doing for only a few weeks- really believing it was happening- my breast have gotten a little fuller. i went to victoria secret today, and a girl working told me "first off- that bra is too small" i was AMAZED. for the first time since i was 14 (6 years ago) i had to get a larger bra. i can finally say i am a 36B.

you have to believe that you body is an amazing thing- and will do what you ask it IF you give it the love and attention it needs to do it. it sounds like you really want this to happen, and you have got the supplements to help.. just really do the massage. i think you can do this.

i'm not sure if this has contributed to the size growth or not- but around the house i try not to wear a bra as much as possible.. and when no one is looking i randomly squeeze them- to remind them to grow. sounds cheezy, i know. and like you- i was really embarrassed to do this at first with my boyfriend in the house. i was thinking "if i take off my bra i will REALLY look flat" but you need to be confortable with your body.

hope this helps. i was very skeptical when i first read about nbe, but i really think it will work. i look at amber and tiger lilys pics when i get discouraged.

Ash, if that is your picture then you are a beautiful girl. We're all in the same boat here, and there is plenty of reason to hope for improvement if you can be patient. Many people have seen results from very little starting material lol. You might want to try a suction method like Noogleberry along with WU because at least it gives you fast visible results even if temporary for quite a long time. But supposedly in the end there is real growth, and in the meantime it looks good.
All the best and encouragement to you

thank you all for helping me out here :)
I just want to be able to wear a bra that fits, sexy lingeri, and bikinis. I honestly cant fit into ANYTHING. I want to feel and look like a woman. I look like a 10 year old girl stuck in puberty. It hurts seeing all these nasty girls on tv and in movies w/ everything hanging out and especially seeing 12 year old girls with bigger breasts than me(a 21 year old!) I babysit and make a 100 a week so that where my money is going to...wonderup lol. Again thank you all. It helps for a few days but then i get back down again :( sadly I might need medication like antidepressants as my boyfriend says.

Ash, just remember that boobs DO NOT define who you are as a person! You are a very beautiful girl, and if you are as beautiful on the inside, then that's all that matters. Believe me, I want bigger breasts too, but don't rely your happiness on something like that. Whenever I get down and I don't feel beautiful, I look at Kate Hudson in some of her movies. Beautiful, sexy woman who exudes sexuality and confidence. . . yet flat chested! Boobs don't make you any more of a woman than you already are, you have to have the attitude!

Hiya Ashley,I'm sure you can do this,just believe in yourself.I'm 45 this year and have always had a small bust 34A.I'm trying Tiger Lily's massage,and going to get some foods/capsules to help with boobie growth!

I couldn't help but feel like I was reading something I wrote when I saw your post. I hate seeing all those women on tv with boobs bigger than mine. Tv and movies are so smutty and it's so hard not to fall into the trap of society telling you your boobs are small. I have to have my hubby change the channel so I don't feel bad. I barely fit a b cup right now, but I'm on the same regimen you are. I'm taking WU and doing massage twice a day. I think I've gained a little, but it's so hard to tell.

I haven't told my hubby I'm taking them or that I'm doing massage. He doesn't know I wear push-up bras either. They just look like regular bras on me. I kind of feel ashamed that I've gotten so worried about my breasts. He always tells me I'm perfect, but I'm not perfect to myself. It's not that I don't believe him. I can accept that he thinks I'm fine. I'm not doing it for him. I'm doing it for myself. And I'm going to stick with it no matter how long it takes. If this is truly what you want, don't give up. I've gotten lazy with it too many times and now I'm finally cracking down. It hurts to much to stop trying.

I wish you the best of luck, sister. Every night I pray to God to make my breasts grow faster. I'm not greedy. I just want to fill a b cup properly. I want to look like I'm wearing a push-up bra when I am...instead of it just looking like a regular bra. I'm not sure if it's doing me any good, but I'll pray for you too. If you ever feel like you need to talk, just drop me an email. I promise I'll be there for you.

Lisa. Im exactly like you too. My boyfriend has to change the channels to make me feel better too. Atleast you can fit in a A cup tho. I can't even fit in a little girl's bra. Its affecting my life too much. Ive been quite depressed for a while. Once again its this stupid society making us little chested ppl feel ugly. my boyfriend tells me im perfect too but i think it got really bad when i walked in on him watching porn with all those big breasted beautiful women. im over here crying now just thinkin about it. i was to a point where i was suicidal a few months ago bc i hate my body so much. im ashamed of it. but it still hurts you know.

Lots of girls who got boob job done are feeling overwhelmingly depressed and wish that they wouldn'd do that to their breasts because men are not attracted to fake boob due to the lost of sensitivity. A couples of my friends broke up with their boyfriends after they got their boob done (for the same reason.)

Are you skinny all over or just flat-chested?

I was quite fat with small boobs, then lost weight and was normal size with almost-no-boobs. I've lost another 15 lbs (although found a few of them recently!) and gone from wearing 32B (but the bra was empty) to 30D and the bra is full!! It's a slow process, this has taken about 18 months but it does work and it's sooooo amazing to actually have some boobs even if they're small, at least there's something to show. Only thing I need to deal with now is my horrendous thigh-fat - yuck! I know what it's like to hate your body, I've got PCO too so not only was my figure horrible but I had hair sprouting everywhere and acne (that got worse when I waxed the hair). Still not happy about the wobbly legs but with clothes on I look ok.

Hi :)
I'm skinny all over. 5'3" and 93 lbs.

habebti u need to gain weight cuz u r too skinny and im afraid whatever u'r doing wont help if u dint fat in ur body to put in there!! i've calculated ur hieght and weight here http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/ so ur BMI (Body Mass Index) is 16.5 only???? no good!!! u need to have atleast a BMI of 19 !! means u need to gain weight u should be atleast 110 lb and trust me that'll change everything in ur body u'll look different u'll feel good and ur bust will grow with everything that ur doin. add some fatty acids supplements to ur diet: Evening Primrose Oil, Flaxseed oil, Borage Oil, eat Protien and High fat (good fat) food, like penuts and fish. good luck and dont feel bad about urself that affects so much :(

Ashley that's great! Firstly some guys just like skinny girls but no-one likes a flat chest on a fat person and secondly putting on weight may fix your problem. So get out there and eat some cakes! Seriously if you find it hard to put on weight try eating slim fast meal replacements on top of your normal meals (or you can get stuff for body builders). I'm 5'1 and about 110 lbs at the moment because I've overeaten recently, I was about 105 and I'm shorter than you so try hard to eat a lot.

ive tried to gain weight and it doesnt work. but i think i mightve gained a few lbs when i ate alot of potatoes but the fat went right to my face and butt....no chest. but I eat all the time so i dont see why there would be a problem...I eat the most fattening foods too...pasta, chips, potatoes, fast food all the time. i just have a fast metabolism. could that still be the problem tho...my weight?

I know how you feel about the porn. I think every girl feels how you feel about that, no matter what she looks like. It hurts to see these huge, fake breasts and know that that is what your boyfriend lusts after. Meanwhile, when you have a small chest, you wonder how he could be attracted to you. I COMPLETELY understand, and it has made me into an ugly person in the past.
But frankly, I am starting to see how guys minds really are, and except for a guy here and there who really has a HUGE big boob obsession, guys just like hot girls. And I, personally, have seen a lot more flat chested girls who are hot than girls with big breasts. Besides, porn is a business where like 96% of these girls have implants, so where is a guy going to find porn WITHOUT a fake breasted girl?

Think about girls like Paris Hilton though. SO many guys love the way she looks, and I doubt the attention is all over her boobs.

yes. it's ur weight. plus!! dont eat too much carbs (potatos, pasta, ..) that will elevate male hormone in ur body so u'll burn all the fat pretty fast!! cuz it's the male hormone that keeps us thin. and we need that enough to keep us thin not too much that it burns all the fat and stops breast growth and stops producing growth hormone. EAT MEAT!! and try WEIGHT GAINER from GNC i promise u'll gain on this one but stay under control and MASSSSSSSSSSSSAGE ur breasts atleast twice daily right after eating. i hope to hear good news from u. u will grow as soon as u fix ur weight . and dont worry. be patient.

Ash, pasta, chips and pottatoes are not fatty, they're pure starch, and that's a rather unhealthy diet. Only the oil used to prepare chips is fatty obviously, but most often also burned which makes it semi toxic. Gaining weight doesn't mean eating unhealthy food. You should still have the right balance of nutritients in your diet - lots of protein, good fats, carbs with low glychemic index, fruit and vegetables, and stay away from bad fats, shuggars and carbs with high glychemic index (if you don't know what I'm talking about, do research on google). Shuggars and high GI carbs make your insulin skyrocket and that favours fat deposition arround the stomach and ass, and it also increases testosterone, so bad for NBE. I'm thinking maybe precisely increasing protein while keeping a healthy balanced diet could help your to a more healthy weight gain.

thank you moon. that really helps me alot :) i gotta give up my wonderful potatoes lol. ill do anything for boobs though. i gave up caffeine and chocolate so potatoes wont hurt.

Ash,you can still have coffee,just have decaffinated,I do!

You can have caffeinated coffee too. Caffeine only interfears with herb absorption throguh the gut so if you space out coffee and herb at least 2 hours you're fine. Of course you shouldn't overdo it, WU site says up to 5 cups is ok, say 3 if you wanna be extra careful. I'm totally dependant on coffee to be able to study, I'm useless without it. I only need 1-2 cups a day so that's perfectly fine, I'm able to function normally and do NBE.

yea i know but im just being extra extra extra careful lol.

Yes Dory,it's alright saying eat meat,but too much meat just makes you constipated,plus there's the colestrol too,and most meats have an artifical hormone don't they,which made the animal lay down more muscle quicker.Just like a body builder would with steroids.

How about Organic Meat :)

And white meat is much much more advisable than red meat.

True. i eat grilled fish 4 times a week. but isnt fish protien different than meat protien? O_O

It's protein, I think it's ok. Tho some say that eating fish that often is not helathy because fish filter and concentrate all the chemicals and pollutants that are dumped into the sea.

I understand. I used to think how lucky the dead were every time we passed a cemetery. It's really hard sometimes. I'm not as depressed as I used to be. My husband had been keeping things from me. We had been very open, I used to look at adult things with him until they made me feel so bad about myself. I told him we had to stop and he just did it behind my back. I was depressed, and that got him depressed. That's why he did it. So, I've learned to perk up and he's put all that crap behind him. It still hurts sometimes though.

I told him about the WU that I'm taking and how bad I've gotten. Surprisingly, it helped me feel better about my little ones. I still want them bigger though. Even though he keeps telling me I'm perfect, it's still hard for me to accept. I have moments when I feel like I couldn't be sexier and I have moments when I feel terrible. At least it's getting better. It still scares my hubby a little. He sometimes wonders if I'll get desperate enough for surgery. To tell you the truth, I don't even know if I could do surgery if something was terribly wrong with me. It just scares me so much.

After I run out of the WU, I think I'll try Perfect Curves. I've been looking at alot of different pills lately and they seem the best. We can get past this. We can make them grow if we try hard enough and believe. I pray for us every night, sister. Someday we'll feel better. It's just going to take time. I mean, we don't want them to grow too fast and get stretch marks, right? :)

Well, I'm sorry I forgot to put my email in the last post. Actually, it took me a little while to find this post again. chibichan_630@msn.com if you ever want to talk or need anything. I wish you nothing but good luck and happiness.

I'm 5'2" and about 90lbs right now.

i cant buy all that push up bra, massage stuff, and al that stuff. i am already fat, height: 4' 11'' weight:111 pounds i dont like to exercise, and i dont have a fast motabalizum.. can you massage under your boobies with normal cented, or plain botty butter lotions?? pleaze respond!!!!!!!!!!


its been two years, one in elementry, one in junior high, and i havent had a boyfriend yet!!!! dont tell me all that ( be yourself, feel good about yourself) crap. and yes, all of the guys date you if you got big boobiez, not being mean, but PLEAZE HELP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Ashley, have you gotten any of my emails? I'm thinking that they're probably going into your spam. I've added the blaketalks.com mp3s to my routine. I'll let you know how that goes.

hey girl, i totally get you. my bf and i went to see friday the 13th last night, and i couldnt help but get upset about the boobie shots. so, i just started drinking to help me relax. ;)

anyway, i started the blake talks mp3, too. ive only heard 2 so far, so i cant report if its working. ive been doing NBE for a total of 2 years, no results yet... but im still hanging in there. i believe it will work! just gotta find the right program and be consistent. i honestly think thats my problem. make sure you are consistent with herbs, massage, and diet.

have you tried doing protein shakes? if you don't like them, maybe just add a tsp of whey protein powder to your meal, like in oatmeal or barley. whatever you think it will taste ok in. sometimes i add a little bit to my milk too.

anyway, my best to you and your quest. we are all here with you.

MrsJimHalpert, i know how you feel!! i hate watching tv most of the time, in fact before i watch a film now i always use this site www.kidsinmind.com to check its "safe" sad isnt it....some thing definately needs to change...i hate being nervous every time the tv goes on :(

Hi, Ash, I know how it feels. I have tried lots of methods to make my breast larger. But have you tried applying a bust serum when doing your massage. Continue with your protein diet, and what ever you're doing to make your boobs bigger and at the same time use a bigger breast serum. I did that and got some encouraging results.LOL

millani...I DO THE EXACT SAME THING ON THE EXACT SITE LOL.

Ouch that sucks, I'm sorry for you girls. You probably miss some good movies lol. Curriously I don't have much of a problem with looking at other boobies, even tho I'm quite small myself and can feel bad about mine in some circumstances. I guess luckily I don't have such a strong tendency to compare myself.

moon...yea it sucks :( i wish i could be more like u in not comparing

LOL ASH thats funny! your serious you do that too? thank god im not the only one :). I didnt think anyone else would have issues as bad as mine :(

lol im glad im not the only one too. but yep im that bad :( i get real bad depression alot from not liking my chest. happens a few times a month, nightmares, and all kinds of stuff. Im just aiming to get a full A cup or small/Full B cup. im not greedy...just want to be normal is all. and feel like a beautiful attractive woman also. hopefully ill get it soon!!!