waxingmoon said

Hi Smallville,

If you have 5 symptoms from each list and many of those are the same then you are likely not balanced, unfortunately.

If you go back to that post I made and read further down I talk a bit (a bit?... lol, more like I blather on and on and on... but anyway...) about how to interpret your results and what to do about it.

However, you are not the first person to be confused after reading that post. I would be glad to help you sort it all out if you would be willing to let me know what your symptoms are.

I suspect you are estrogen dominant but your symptoms will tell me if your estrogen is normal/high or low. Knowing this will help you determine what kind of NBE would work best for you as well as how to get your hormones balanced.

So, sorry to say it, but you are likely not balanced in your hormones. The good news is that you can do something about it.

I would be glad to help you if you like.

Best wishes,
waxingmoon
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Hey,waxingmoon

That would be Great=)
I'd love for some help I been reading over the newcomers section for the past month now and other topics, I just been having a hard time understanding the whole hormone thing. I never really knew anything about hormones of how important they were to our bodies till I found this forum.

Here's a little bit about my self...
Age 25
5'0 tall
92 pounds
Im on BCP Aviane 28 day cycle
I wear a bra in 32 B, but thats padded ones only with pushups... Measuring without A Bra Im getting 32A maybe even a 32AA I never wore a bra without pads so I don't really know my true bra size.

My mom, and two older half sisters were all small B cups untill they had kids they increased a little..I don't have any kids yet so not sure if that will happen to me lol, but even then they did'nt increase a whole lot maybe half an inch.

I do know that on my dads side > different dad from my sisters however, that my cousins and aunts all had like C size breast or bigger.

I do smoke, I been smoking for the past 7 years, But this past week I cut out my cigs..from one pack a day down to one pack for the whole week...As im perparing my body for the NBE routine. Im definitely quiting as of now.

I have drank lots of soda my whole life along with sweet tea... and OMG the candy! Im addicted to it big time lol I eat chocolate candy bars like almost every other day, its BAD I KNOW BLAH...
However im so proud of myself this past week I been drinking soymilk everyday at least a glass of it, which I have never drank in my life before. No more candy, No more soda, NO more sweet tea /cry:( But for NBE its so worth the effort.

No surgerys what so ever my whole life except a dirt bike accident,which left hugh scars on my leg when I was 15 years old... Yeah stupid me I ran into a barb wire fence OUCH!

I never exercise ever which I plan to do here soon with trying out double aces routine she just put up for us=)
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As for the symptoms Im getting for the (Estrogen Dominance and Deficiency symptom list)

Estrogen Dominance Symptoms...

Breast tenderness, but thats more so around my peroid time which I think is normal except for the time I had those cysts going on in my left breast.

Decreased sex drive, It takes alot for me to get in the mood lol not really painfull, but during orgasams It can be for like a couple of seconds

Fibrocystic breasts, I had 3 big painfull knots come up on my left breast which I went to the doctor for and I had an Ultrasound done which indicated they were just cysts. My doctor told me to cut out the caffeine,which I did and take vitamin E for it, so over the past 3 months I did just that and now their gone yay. So im guessing I have Fibrocystic breasts because of that, or maybe it was just caused by all the soda I was drinking not really sure.

Foggy thinking, I guess sometimes its hard for me to think clearly and concentrate when I read stuff.

Memory loss, I have always had trouble remembering things from the time I was young.

Water retention, bloating, I dunno if this goes with this symptom, but I do feel bloated when I eat sertin foods it almost makes me want to throw up sometimes because of it. Also I have acid reflex at times from sertin foods. I think this might be due to how I been eating alot lately like fast foods pasta ect..
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Estrogen Deficiency Symptoms list...

Breast Tenderness.. same as above

Brain Fog" -- difficulty concentrating, confusion **..
Memory Lapses **same as above

Confusion/Lack of Concentration **

Extreme Fatigue/Low Energy Levels **

Bloating** same as aove

Thats all I can find on both list of Things That I might have
So not really any medical problems that I know of I feel pretty healthy for not eating right and drinking soda all my life lol.

Oh Btw since I been drinking soy milk this past week with plenty of water as well my breast seem a little fuller to me and I ended my peroid 6 days ago. But it could just be me I dunno know lol

The NBE programs I been considering giving a go is ether eves program or wonderup pills along with protein shakes everyday and chicken feet soup everynight for dinner with soymilk.

Ok wow this was a really long post lol waxingmoon your starting to rub off on me hehe

I guess that should be enough information if im missing anything let me know
Smallville=)

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that along with the soymilk I been drinking all week, I been taking milk thistle 3 caps a day for the past week, For Cleansing my liver out of toxins from smoking, caffeine, and CANDY=( That might be also why my boobs feel a little fuller also. But im in the process of cleansing my system out before doing any programs. If that helps some

Hi Smallville,

Here is what I think from the information that you have shared with me. It sounds like you have estrogen dominance with possibly high estrogen. Your symptoms all mimic hypothyroidism which is a low thyroid output. If you have had a thyroid check and it has come out normal then the problem is likely to be excess estrogen.

Here is how estrogen can give you low thyroid symptoms. In excess, estrogen produces thyroid binding hormone which attaches to the hormone the thyroid produces and prevents it from interacting with the cells of your body. This means the body feels symptoms of low thyroid but the basic tests will show that the thyroid is producing the right amount of hormone. It is just that the cells never receive it.

So, what I am telling you is that your symptoms don't just show up on the 2 lists (estrogen dominance and estrogen deficiency) but also on a third list called hypothyroid symptoms.

I have had the 'pleasure' of all of these symptoms myself, so you have my sympathy.

Now, what to do. Well, if you do have an actual thyroid problem then that needs to be dealt with. Perhaps you have an old blood test that will confirm whether your TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) has been tested. Your doctor may be able to confirm if this is the case or not. If it has not been tested in the last 5 years then have that test done.

If it turns out your thyroid is normal, then you need to work on lowering your estrogen. I am sorry to say that the soy milk will likely not be a good idea for you. Soy can interfere with thyroid - specifically because it raises estrogen and then that raises the thyroid binding hormone and blah, blah, blah.

You may not need to supplement your progesterone. First try this. Start taking 1 - 2 tablespoons of crushed flaxseed per day. Avoid pesticides and non-organic meats. Avoid soy and other phytoestrogens. Avoid solvents and emulsified soaps.

I know you can't avoid the BCP your using but if it is possible for you to use another type of birth control, that may help you with these symptoms.

Try these things for about 3 months or more. Your symptoms may reduce and this would be a sign that your hormones are becoming balanced.

During this time you should focus your NBE on massage and getting good nutrition. Take a multivitamin and eat lots of lean protein. If you want to take more vitamins then check out my program page and you can rattle along with me... lol.

Let's say you start here and see how things go. I am sure you will have some questions so please let me know.

Best wishes,
waxingmoon

Hey,waxingmoon

I know that my mom has hypothyroidism she has trouble losing weight, she use to be really skinny when she was younger, now that shes older shes put on alot of weight and has trouble trying to get the weight off.

Im not sure If the symptoms I picked out are really what I have.. Im just guessing at it with what I've had trouble with over the years. Its hard to say without a final exam by a doctor to see whats going on with me. I will have to get that test done you you suggested to fine out about the thyroids beings my mom has it to know for sure.

I don't really have a lot of the symptoms Now, that I mentioned earlier Most of those were symptoms that I seemed to have had in the past over the years. I do however have some things going on with me that im not real sure about till I go see my doctor.

Im not sure where these would fall under at on the list, But my main issues as of now consist of bowls not being able to have bowl movements often unless I take a colon cleanse or im having my peroid. Not being able to hold sertin foods down, most foods seem to upset my stomach.

Im not able to gain weight may be due to not holding food down at times.
Not really sexualy active sometimes painfull during sex, but painfull in my lower stomach area also during in orgasam right afterwards its very sensitive for a few seconds.

Im also tired alot if I don't get out and walk around some,However if I do get myself out of the house and move around I find that I gain lots of energy, and can't stop thinking of things to do lol.

Other then that I don't seem to have any other symptoms as of now Like I use to have in the past... might be due to switching BCP which I did over 6 months ago,

Sorry If im confusing you any at all, I don't mean to I guess I was confused with the hormone thing and thought that indicated symptoms over the past as well as of now. I did'nt realize you were suppose to go by just symptoms that you have as of now.

I will be able to identify myself better once I get A doctors exam.

Just wondering if the milk thristle is ok to take, and I already bought chicken feet for that soup progect would that be ok to take? I heard its also good for IBS which I thought would be good for my stomach issues.

Thankyou,waxingmoon
your so knowledgeable if you ever wrote a book about NBE and sold it I would definitely buy it from you=) your the best of the best