Hello. I started nbe a few months ago (three pills each of the herbs below a day) and was not seeing growth signs whatoever so I would stop and thne try varying my doses to see if my body would respond better to different doses. What happens when I stop and first start taking them again is that i will initally notice growth signs and then it all instantly disappears and I actaully get smaller as I continue taking them. It's so weird. HOw can this be am I putting my hormones out of balance to actually make me smaller? Any wisdom out there would be greatly appreciated. Here's what i have taken:

fenugreek - started with three a day (about 500 mg), then stopped, then started with 1, then back up to 2, etc.

saw palmetto - same as above

wild yam - same as above

fennel tea - 1 cup a day (or combo fenugreek/fennel)

foti - 1 pill a day

massage - almost every day with almond oil (this seems to be the only thing that does make them fuller, but when I massage and take herbs, again they look and feel smaller, weird!)
fenugreek/fennel oil based cream in morning (no massage though just an application)


I have noticed that whenever I stop and start the herbs regimen for a day or two, I will get a little growing soarness and mild swelling, then the next day or so as I continue with the herbs my breasts actually look and feel smaller and they continue being small. I'm wondering if maybe the wild yam is countering the estrogenic effects of fenugreek or is the saw palmetto to blame? And I am breaking out a lot too. Foti is estrogenic so not worried about that.

If I stop everything and just start taking one herb as experiment three times a day which of the above herbs would you all recommend I try first? Thanks!!

Hi Iwillgrow. I have experienced fluctuations on herbs myself. Maybe your hormones are out of balance. I would try stopping for a while.

Thanks! I stopped all the herbs, just doing massage, msm and chicken feet now. Also started vitex. I am now seeing more fullness. I think I over did the estrogenic herbs or my body just didn't work well with them. Let's see how this goes. May add soy later or flaxseed. Been doing a lot of research everywhere since the post. so much to learn!