Hey,mad.You had gave me advice on my last posting and again,I appreciate it.I do take PM along w/ my commercial product.I will be cancelling the commercial due to lack of affordability now.I know you told me that you use the PM and then use the PM spray.Moon advised me to take PM for 2 weeks,then break for 2 weeks.I am on depo for birth control.That,however,is not the main reason I take it.It just seems to balance me and also helps me keep my weight on as I have a high metabolism.I tend to lose weight when I stress and it seems to help me with this.Do you take breaks with your PM pills? I know the cream is safe to use on the breaks.I am going to be using Femagis cream and the PM pills from ebay.I already take the pills,just adding the Femagis cream because it is affordable.Thanks again!
Oh,how long have you been taking the PM program and what kind of growth/fullness have you gotten from it?Happy growing!
I had a question for ya:) I'm interested in buying PM , would u mind posting your seller's site? It seems to me that most people on the forum buy from bellas or debs which seems reputable but pricey, I'd just like to see what the competition is and compare them .
Hey,lemonvanilla! I don't mind giving that info at all.Some people don't recommend these from this particular seller,but when I started taking these,my growth just literally took off.So,they work for me.On Ebay,it is Best Deal Thai Goods.You get(100)-500 mg caps.There is no fancy packaging,however.It comes in a bubble pack enclosed in a ziplock-type plastic baggie.It does have english instruction insert in it.They are $5 plus $4 S&H.They do come from Thailand.It took 2 weeks to get to me.Even had Thai writing on the packaging,which is a simple cardboard cover.It says to take 1 cap in morning after meal and 1 cap in evening after meal.It says nothing about taking breaks,but a lot of women on this forum recommend taking it for 2 weeks on,2 weeks off.Good luck!
Well,I didn't at first,until I read a thread of Moon's on a post about this.I asked Moon why and she said that PM is one strong herb,and it is recommended 2 weeks on,2 weeks off.Too risky w/ birth control.I take it the first 2 weeks,then off.Some women have had really delayed periods when they do not break,even if they do not take BC.I may not,as I am on depo and am now entering my "silent cycles"----no bleeding,but I don't want the bloat.I still have the symtoms,although they have become less severe.I just don't want to risk it.If I notice no sensations going on with my new program,I may take it without breaks.Until then,I'll keep it as is.
Now that you are going to stop Latavi, you will be able to see if it was that helping you grow or if it was the PM. That is a good deal for the PM, I did find the link finally! I was thinking of taking it after I am done BO, or perhaps to switch from BO to PM.
I am wondering if your periods were screwed up? I think that because Depo is progesterone based that you will be okay if you take it everyday. But I also read one post where a girl (cant remember her name) said when she takes PM with Depo she always increase one cup size but when she gets off depo she goes back down. I would take it for a while to ensure your growth is permanent as well as take a maintenance dose for some time after you stop.
I would like to know your experience with the PM alone and no herbs. But your experience would be different than mine because of the depo. I may try out one bottle, of this PM because it is so cheap I could always use the powder to make cream with. So it is a win win for me, regardless of the whether I grow or not.
Hey,Tina Z! I really feel that it was the PM that really made my growth take off.That is when my smaller boob caught up and also when my nipples evened out.I am anxious to see if this will be enough.I will still take the cayenne,MSM,SP,and gelatin along with my Vit C,prenatal vit,and biotin.I will also be drinking Bustea,but I know I won't always get to do that.I am down right now due to getting my back hurt at work and I just did not feel like making the tea.Must be the pain pills and muscle relaxers kicking in and making me tired.
No,I never had really screwed up periods.I have been like clockwork all my life,but they used to be very painful.Then when I got cervical cancer,they really went haywire.After my surgeries,they eventually evened back out.As far as my periods being messed up by the depo,only the initial first shot,as you will get breakthrough and old blood will come out.I was irregular the first 2 months,then when I got my second shot,I will start having no period,although I still have the symptoms of PMS.I took a 2 year break from it,but I actaually feel better while on Depo,so I will not be taking anymore breaks from it.It agrees with me.
Yes,I will keep you posted on this. I still have enough Latavi to last me through next Sunday,but I still have some PM pills.That will be right on track for me to start the PM back up.Did your friend that took PM and was on depo take breaks with PM,or did she take them straight through without breaks? If she did not break,did it mess up her cycle? I will be updating my personal program page and I will also order my PM cream along with more pills from Ebay today.Keep me posted with your program,as well.How is that going for you?
How long have been on the PM? How much have you grown since starting your NBE program? Did you grow faster when you took it everyday versus 14 days out of your cycle? I am wondering if it didnt bother you that the pills came the way they did? You think this company is legit? Do you think that their PM is a high quality one?
Necole~~~~Hello to you,too! I hope you enjoy your purchase.It does not come in fancy packaging,but they do work for me.Happy Growing!
TinaZ!~~~~Well,as far as the questions go-----inquiring minds want to know!
I have been on PM since late April/early May.When I first started I was very loose 34B.The width fit me,but there was a big gap at top between skin and bra.I really had to adjust the shoulder straps and they were uncomfortable.I was too big for an A cup.So,I guess I was a near B.I don't measure,but I am now very,very full 34B.In fact,I just wore my unpadded underwire 34C bra last week.It is almost time for some new bras.The 34B's I am wearing have stretched.That's why I keep my old C's around so I can gauge my growth.I would say I have went up atleast 1 cup.That's before I have my PMS symtopms.I do go back down a little after menses,but the 34C still fits.So glad I bought the non-underwire stretchy 34B's.
When I was taking the PM everyday,yes,I really took off on growth.When I started taking it 14 days of my cycle,I noticed less sensations.I am actually glad when I get to add it back because I can really feel it working.Without it,I still get some tingles on and off,some itching on and off,and shooting pain on and off.With it,the tingles,itches,and shooting pains are more constant,though not at all times.When I get to start PM back up,I feel very,very heavy in the bust.I really think it is the PM that really helps me grow faster.
No,it did not bother me the way the pills came.In my opinion,the fancier the packaging,the more expensive the product will be to the consumer.There are plenty of times that I have paid for the fancy packaging,but not the product.I was using Mary Kay eyeshadow.I really liked it.It was in that fancy compact that I paid for.I broke all 3 eyeshadow colors when I dropped that compact.Well,I was not going to cut into my NBE funds and pay $18 to replace the eyeshadow.I went and got some Wet 'n' Wild eyeshadow.3 colors for $3.25.Guess what? It went on and wore just as well as the Mary Kay.In fact,it did not take as much product.I also buy from the big close-out liquidations on clothes,home furnishings,and electronics that they have a couple of times in Nashville at the state fairgrounds.I spend about 80% less and am just as happy with the products,but even more happy because I did not pay for the department store packing.I still get the warranty.
As far as the company being legit-----I think they are just as legit as all the other Ebay stores.They do answer emails.They emailed me asking if I got the product after I inquired about it.They told me it had been shipped,but because it was coming from Thailand,it could take a couple of weeks.It was almost 2 weeks.But I emailed them back to let them know I had received it.I also gave them a good rating.
I know when I first ordered some PM cream from another seller on Ebay,my product never came and I had to fight to get my money back.I did get it back,but I was really disappointed.I have re-ordered the same cream from another seller on Ebay,so hopefully it will get here.This is Femagis PM cream.That way,I can still use PM while on my breaks from internal PM.
As far as their PM being high quality is going to be my opinion from personal experience.Yes,I think it is because I got really good growth.That is when my smaller girl and smaller nipple caught up.It was pure white colored instead of beige that I had heard about.They are 500mg each capsule.A lot of brands I have seen are 200 mg.There could be higher quality out there,but I have had success with theirs,so I will just stick with it.It coming from Thailand eases my mind because that is where it is grown.I know I did not have any adverse reactions from it and trust me,I would know as I am allergic to even environmental things.I have had to go have an IV cocktail of Benadryl and steroids where my throat and airways would close up.I hope this has helped you.Happy Growing!
Thanks MelC! That really did help, it was more than I was expecting , so thanks alot.
I think I am going to buy this PM. I find that fancier packaging does mean more money. For $10 to get 100 capsules is pretty good. Normally, I wouldnt try it but, because you tried it and had good results I figure I have nothing to lose. Plus, its really cheap which is goos during this time of world recession.
I was wondering if you have any hormonal imbalances? How did you do you decide to start taking PM? I may add Swiss Lamb Placenta to my PM though. I am going to try to keep my PM routine simple and not much pills.
I actually started PM as a topical.It really made my breasts red and tingly,so I knew it was helping with circulation.And,oh,how they itched! I was also taking Breast Success(yea,stupid).I decided to try Latavi,and that came with a massage gel,so I kept the PM cream as a mid-day massage.I was running low on the cream,so I started researching more about PM.It had a lot of fallout benefits like younger looking skin,help with menses,hormone balance,helps with circulation,etc.
Look,that region of people look fantastic,even when they get older.I also knew they are very health conscious,so they were not just going to put anything into their body.I had been seeing lots of positive feedback on every seller of PM on Ebay,so I thought,why not? I could not,however,justify the price of St.Herb.Even if I could afford it,I would not pay that kind of money.So,after about a week of looking on Ebay and Amazon,I decided with the $9 PM pills.I figured I would only be out a little money.....not enough to cry over.Like you,I thought,hey,I will atleast add them to the cocoa butter during mid-day massage.They were grainy,so I would add some EPO or Vit E oil with them as well.Once I started taking them internally,however,I was hooked! I am not saying they work on everyone,but they did for me.It does not recommend breaks,but I do to be safe.Like I said,I always look forward to getting to add them back to my routine.That's why I'm going w/PM cream again,too.It is a strong herb.It is also good at firming.
Do I have a hormonal imbalance? I have not been tested by a doctor,but I do know my body.Just ask my last OB/GYN.Man,we went round and round.But,in all,I know I do.I had my first child at 15(right in the middle of puberty),I am anemic,and I went through extreme stress from the ages of 17-23.Extreme stress.Cervical cancer in there at that time too.So,I think it did throw them out of whack.I know that's why I shrunk and deflated.I stayed that way even after gaining back to a healthy weight.Men thought they were lovely,but they had not seen them in their prime and peak.My husband did,as I went with him when I was younger.He thought they were lovely either way,but he is touching and talking about them alot more now.Men!
I instinctly know I have excess androgens,as I have oily skin and hair.I have to wash my hair mostly everyday to keep it tip-top.I also have a couple of stray small,dark hairs at my chin,a couple at my aerolas,and a love-line down my stomach.My hair grows extremely fast.I also believe that I have enough estrogen,but I think before the receptors were getting full of toxins,therefore creating bad estrogen.Since adding the SP,I can actually skip a day of washing my hair about 2 times a week,and I can actually use daytime moisturizer without my face looking like an oil-slick.
As you can see,I am famous for long posts.I am a chatter box.If I could just say it to you,it would only take a couple of minutes.I used to be in sales.Go figure.
I also like the benefits of using PM as well. I have breastfed so things are not as firm as I would like them to be. Did you get firmer through the cream or the pills or a combo of both? I am young and have gotten 1 gray hair already so PM combating premature grey hair is also a plus for me. Not to mention skin, hair and nails. I am sold! LOL
I look forward to hearing about your progress with PM and thanks for introducinbg me to a cheaper way to get PM. What are your goals anyways, what size do you want to get to? I think I am a smallB now and would love to just be a very full C or even a D. I am gonna keep on doing it until I reach the size I am happy with. I think that would totally change my life and I know it sounds wierd but just feeling good about yourself is priceless and for everything else there is VISA!!
Hi there,TinaZ! I don't mind all the questions at all.I got firmer from the pills.I am using Latavi massage cream,so I do massage with that.I really do like the gel.I also use heat most times after my massage at night.I also massage mid-day w/Palmer's Cocoa butter w/Vit E.I also do wall-pushes most days in the morning and in the evening.Just 20.I have been slack right now,due to being down w/my back.Hurt it at work.
I think it is the combo of everything.I also keep positive about it,willing my breasts to be firm and perky.I want to get back to my 36C,but I will settle for very full 34C/small D.Maybe I'll get greedy and decide to go for full D.We'll see how they look.I can wear 34C right now,so very excited about that.I was loose 34B when I started.Too big for an A because of width.There was a gap at top of my bra,now I'm outgrowing even my stretchy non-underwire 34B's.I would to adjust the shoulder straps,but there was still a gap.Now,the strap can be at the lowest adjustment,and they still fit,making marks on the sides.They are starting to feel like they constrict me.I think by the 1st part of August a will be a full-fledged 34C.
I have a good feeling about my modified routine coming up,although I was really apprehensive at first.The PM cream(Femagis) is supposed to be really good.I think I may grow even better.You said you are small B now,what were you when first starting NBE? Good luck!
