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PAINFUL , SO PAINFUL!!!!!!!!!

March 19 2006 at 12:57 AM
  (Login EVAFAYE)

I JUST FOUND THIS WEBSITE AND IT IS EXCELLENT AND VERY HELPFUL. I HAVE JUST BEEN THROUGH 2 YEARS FROM HELL. MY HUSBAND OF 24 YEARS WHO HAD BEEN SOBER FOR 15 YEARS, STARTED AN AFFAIR WITH A GAL HE KNEW IN AA, FEB OF 2004. OVER THE COARSE OF THAT YEAR, HE MOVED IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSE 10 TIMES, EACH TIME TOTALLY TRYING TO CONVINCE ME THAT IT WAS OVER WITH HER. HE LOST HIS SOBRIETY AND SO DID SHE AND JULY OF LAST YEAR RAN HIS TRUCK OFF A ROAD AND ALMOST DIED. HE WAS A VERY MUSCULAR AND HANDSOME MAN AND TO SEE HIM TODAY, HE HAS AGED A GOOD 10 YEARS AND WALKS WITH A CANE AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. HIS FAMILY GONE (KIDS HARDLY SEE HIM BECAUSE THEY DONT ACCEPT HER), HIS HEALTH IS GONE, HIS SOBRIETY, HIS INTEGRITY, HIS SEX LIFE IS CERTAINLY MESSED UP, AND HE IS STILL WITH HER. I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART THAT I WAS A GOOD WIFE TO HIM AND WOULD BE EVEN STUPID ENOUGH TO TAKE HIM BACK TODAY IF HE TRULY WAS REPENTANT. I TRULY DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW A MAN WOULD BE SO UNWISE TO DO THIS TO HIMSELF. I KNOW IT IS ABOUT ADDICTION BUT LIKE WAKE UP!!!!!!! I KNOW THAT I WAS A GOOD WIFE AND LOVED HIM THE BEST I KNEW HOW. HE HAS NEVER ACCUSED ME OF ANYTHING AND WOULD TELL ANYONE THAT I WAS A GOOD WIFE TO HIM BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS NOT BEING DEALT WITH, WHICH I ALWAYS KNEW THERE WAS, IN OUR YEARS OF PARENTING WE STRUGGLED BUT I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN MY MARRIAGE AND HE WAS AN EXCEPTIONAL MAN IN MANY WAYS. OUR DIVORCE IS ALMOST FINAL AND HE WONT SPEAK TO ME. I TRULY BELIEVE HE IS ANGRY THAT I AM ASKING FOR WHAT I DESERVE. I CANT SEEM TO LET GO AND WOULD JUST BE SO HAPPY IF HE WERE TO COME TO ME AND SAY THAT HES BEEN WRONG AND PLEASE FORGIVE HIM AND LETS MAKE THIS WORK. AM I CRAZY???????? WHEN DO I KNOW THAT IT IS TIME TO TOTALLY FORGET IT ALL????????? YESTERDAY PROBABLY. I BELIEVE THAT HE HAS GOTTEN HIMSELF INTO A MESS SO DEEP THAT HE CANT GET OUT. SHE IS MENTALLY UNSTABLE AND HAS BEEN SUICIDAL IN THE PAST AND RELENTLESSLY PURSUED HIM DURING THE LAST 2 YEARS AND SHE FINALLY HAS GOTTEN HIM. SHE WILL HANG ON FOR DEAR LIFE AND THIS HAS BEEN A LIVING NIGHTMARE FOR ME AND OUR TWO KIDS, AGE 21 AND 24.

EVAFAYE


    
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Jay
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Re: PAINFUL , SO PAINFUL!!!!!!!!!

March 19 2006, 8:38 AM 

Dear EvaFaye-

As many others will tell you, welcome to our website. I am sorry for your pain. You are among friends here.

My experience doesn't exactly parallel yours, however, maybe I could suggest a counsellor for you to explore your feelings further, and what impels you to continue to try to hang on to a relationship that is hurtful and probably over.

Perhaps others on this site have had an experience more closely similar to yours.

In any case, please keep posting your thoughts. It is helpful, and you will find people here truly concerned.

Best of luck to you.

Jay

 
 
Anonymous
(Login TexMac64)

Re: PAINFUL , SO PAINFUL!!!!!!!!!

March 19 2006, 9:43 AM 

Howdy EvaFaye,

I'll second Jay's welcoming you to the site. I'm sorry you had to find us.

I grew up with an alcoholic step-father and it was no day at the beach. My mother couldn't rescue him, save him from himself or love him enough for him to stop his drinking. In the meantime we all went through hell because of it. He had to hit rock bottom before he helped himself. Not my mother's idea or the kids' idea of rock bottom...but his.

You do realize even if he came to you and said I'm sorry blah blah blah if you let him back now there would still be 3 in your relationship. You, him and the alcohol. Sounds to me if anything has their grips in your H its the booze. The OW is just enabling it.

Eva what if one of your children had been in the truck when he had his accident? Or he hit and killed someone else? He's still a menace. Why would you want that in the house? As much as you want to you can't protect him from himself.

In the meantime what are you doing for you? Have you sort help being the spouse of an alcoholic? There are organizations and websites geered to help you. If you need help finding any let me know.

Once again...welcome.

Regards,

Tex






 
 
Anonymous
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Re: PAINFUL , SO PAINFUL!!!!!!!!!

March 19 2006, 10:08 AM 

Evafaye

I'm also sorry you've had to come looking for our site.

I wanted to add something to the great posts above.

"SHE IS MENTALLY UNSTABLE AND HAS BEEN SUICIDAL IN THE PAST AND RELENTLESSLY PURSUED HIM DURING THE LAST 2 YEARS AND SHE FINALLY HAS GOTTEN HIM."

I understand your turmoil and anger over or toward the OW (other woman) but you can't force the unwilling into an A (affair.) I know how badly that hurts but your H likely would have found another to leave with if it wasn't her. It isn't about her and what she has that you don't have. The problem is with your almost ex spouse. He has issues and alcohol is a biggie. I went through binge drinking and a porn addiction and honestly after a while, the OW became a non issue for me. I realized that it was HIM (my ex) cheating on me and not her and he was the one looking for happiness in an illusion or fantasy with other women. If it hadn't been with her, it would have been with someone else eventually when there was another willing women to sleep with a married man. I remember when I first found out about his A, I hated her but honestly I gave her too much control over my emotions that she shouldn't have had.

I just wanted to tell you that there IS life after a divorce. I can't remember a time when I've been happier than I am now. I even thank God that this has all happened so I could start a life without the addictions, without the drama, without all the lies, etc.

Hang in there and stick with us. This group has been a godsend to my healing in many ways.

Charlie





 
 
Anonymous
(Login TexMac64)

Re: PAINFUL , SO PAINFUL!!!!!!!!!

March 19 2006, 5:43 PM 

Hope this helps EvaFaye.

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=24site

From a person named nytepassion from the sober recovery web site:

Alcoholics and addicts always require more, more, more of everything that makes em' feel good ... even relationship wise (more of us ... less of themselves) more, more ... more us, less, lesser of them .. and this goes on and on and oneday we find ourselves wondering what the hell happened (we've given so much of ourselves over to our alcoholic loved one) that we have nothing left, but a memory of what we once were and the reality of what we've become is devastating ... We've consistantly weakened and yeilded living our lives for and around the alcoholic, his/her alcoholicism and the behavior thereof for so long, being caught up in trying to change the alcoholic, save the alcoholic, rescue the alcoholic, sacraficing ourselves for the alcoholic ... the alcoholic, the Alcoholic, the AlCoHoLiC... morning, noon and night .. day in day out it spent all around and being all about the ALCOHOLIC and what he/she is or isn't doing or what she/he has or hasn't done, what they said or didn't say, whether they used or didn't use ... that by the time we actually plop down from sheer exhaustion and try to take a moment to breath or to think ... We are devastated at what not only what our lives have become, but more so what we've become in the process of trying to keep our alcoholic loved one away from and off of booze ...

and then we begin the journey into trying to understand what the hell has and is happening to your life ... then to top things off you find that in order to make things better for you and for the ALCOHOLIC you have to let go and Let God ... then the fear sets in, "But what if" what if I let go and he/she gets hurt, or something bad happens or worse (our biggest fear)she/he ends up dead ... So we try to hold on only to find we've been holding our alcoholic loved one up and keeping their feet from touching the ground ... in other words (holding up the alcoholic out of fear they will get hurt ... instead of letting go and letting them fall and realizing that the pain from the fall is just what the doctor ordered) Pain can be beneficial .. It can be a motivator, it can be a constant reminder that things need change in theirs and our lives ...

If you find yourself sitting there reading this and you are in pain because of and over your alcoholic loved one ... let that pain motivate you to seek out your recovery, your healing ...

You are not responsible to make it all better for your alcoholic loved one ... They are responsible for their own lives and how they live it ... and if drugs are chosen over all else then the pain, suffering, and consequences that ultimately come with the territory of being a alcoholic belong to the alcoholic and not the loved one of the alcoholic ...

The very pain, consequences, trouble that you are trying to keep from happening to your alcoholic loved one ... Just might be the very thing that would bring them to rock bottom ... Get out of the way and Let the process begin

The longer you fight it ... the harder you make your own life ...

Besides you can't get around, over or under it ... You're going to have to walk through it to get to the otherside ...


It is usually because we are (or we think we are) at our wits end when we begin to look for answers to help us understand ... we read books, talk to counselors, search the net for answers ... some end up here ... searching, asking questions, trying to understand and make some kind of sense out of their lives ... You read, and read and read, step out and post, read replies, reply yourself and the others that have been down the path before you reach out to try to help you ... to try to take your hand and led you out, but are usually met with resistance, unsurity (should I stay or should I go) What will happen to the alcoholic in my life if I let go to find myself ... Will they lose themselves in booze completely ... so you stay behind because your not quite ready to recovery yourself ... You still feel the need to watch over your alcoholic ... You watch and watch as things decline as they decline and you fight, argue, yell, cry, beg, plead, rationalize, try logic .. only to find you've been beating your head against a brick wall and now to top things off you've busted open your head and not only is your head bleeding, but so is your heart ... Bleeding and crying out Please God, Make this all stop ... (gotta get out of the way so he can reach your alcoholic)

This site is an information booth ... You come in all beat up, weathered from the storm ... you ask for directions ... and are given them, but they are no good UNLESS you follow them ... it takes courage, trust, faith, strength and a real desire to change NOT THE alcoholic, but yourself ...

The alcoholic is going to do what the alcoholic does NO MATTER what you do ... and if you're living paralized waiting for the alcoholic to change before you can go on with your life .. then you could be waiting a long, long time .. You think you're exhausted now ... it doesn't get any better till you get better ...

The best gift you can give yourself and your alcoholic loved one is YOUR OWN RECOVERY ... they can't do it for you ... you can't do it for them ... but each can do it for themselves ... and I can say this .. It is easier for the alcoholic to out run you ... so if you plan on tryin to keep up you better get ready to be put through more hell then you've ever know before ...

It stops when you stop it ...


<<<If you find yourself sitting there reading this and you are in pain because of and over your alcoholic loved one ... let that pain motivate you to seek out your recovery, your healing ...>>>

One of the best quotes I've ever read because it fits regardless of the situation.

Regards,

Tex





    
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(Login spirit60)

Re: PAINFUL , SO PAINFUL!!!!!!!!!

March 20 2006, 6:48 AM 

hi eva faye

i am sorry you are here, but i have to say you are battling two demons here, his relationship with the other woman and his alcoholism.

in battling those be clear about what you are saying you were a good wife about.

what i am reading between you lines (tell me if i am wrong) is that you are saying "i stayed with him and supported him through all these years of sobriety, i helped keep him alive and SHE is killing him, WHAT ABOUT WHAT I DID FOR HIM?"

am i wrong hon.

i maybe, but i am an alcoholic and also a member of sober recovery. it is a good site to go to as the wife of an alcoholic. get some support there. but also post here to get some support for how you are feeling about his affair.

they are two different things but strongly intertwined, sadly.

as i said, please keep posting and also visit soberrecovery. my nick there is also spirit if you wish to get some 'validation' of my comments

kindest thoughts
kath

 
 
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