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Charles and Camilla....

February 10 2005 at 12:50 PM
Jane  (Login inthesky)
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Well, today is a sad day for betrayed people -- it always is when a betrayer ends up joyfully marrying his cheating partner. And...everyone around is sending best wishes.

Poor Princess Diana. I hope the ex-HRH haunts Charles "castle" as retribution for being spurned in favour of another woman. We know that's what a medieval princess would do -- become a grey mist floating around the castle in a flowing gown moaning and groaning and keeping the occupants awake at night...gosh nobility isn't what it used to be eh?

Yes, I know, she had moved on. She had found herself another guy, was apparently happy and, if you believe his dad, may have even been headed for marriage herself.

But, you gotta admit, hearing about your ex marrying the OW is hard stuff to swallow. I'm sure a few folks here know what that feels like.

Well Princess Di -- if you can sense anything about the earth from the beyond sense that at least this person feels some indignation on your behalf.




 
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Re: Charles and Camilla....

February 10 2005, 1:11 PM 

"But, you gotta admit, hearing about your ex marrying the OW is hard stuff to swallow. I'm sure a few folks here know what that feels like"

Funny because BF and I were just talking about how my ex was dating someone and how I would be glad when he found one woman to stick with and was hoping she was nice and that NO I would not be jealous - you see, I've already been there done that after his cheating.  He then asked me how I would feel if he brought the same OW over that he had cheated on me with and I said that would definitely make a huge difference.  I wouldn't be jealous (I'm done with that) but I sure don't want to ever see her again.  You see, like others here, his ex is still with the OM who broke up their marriage so it is quite hurtful to him still - can't say I blame him.  My ex would not be allowed to have the OW from the affair come near my house!  Never know, he may still be dating her for all I know. 

Charlie :>)

 


 
 

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February 10 2005, 4:12 PM 

well, I don't quite see it that way............and not that I care lol

They have been envolved for YEARS ... he married her off to Parker-Bowles and still kept her as his mistress.... he got married to a "suitable" wife... and still kept her as his mistress....now I supposed he no longer care about the "decorum" and neither does the Queen... so... why should we??



And as you walk you make your path Kat

 
 
Jane
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Well ...

February 10 2005, 6:16 PM 

Sure Kit there's a bit of a romantic tragedy in there of course -- the young prince forbidden to marry his true love only to find himself unable to shake her yada, yada, yada.

And, honestly, even though I am Canadian and we still are tied to the British monarchy, albeit loosely, I really don't care about the decorum and stuff.

I'm just looking at poor Diana as a fellow victim of betrayal -- a young woman with stars in her eyes, talked into marrying this guy with visions of "prince charming" and all that stuff in her mind -- and then finding it the reality to be so terribly different.

Just as a fellow traveller on this path, I feel badly for her...


 
 

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Re: Charles and Camilla....

February 10 2005, 6:16 PM 

Excellent point, Kat. Altho I didn't know that he had a hand in her marrying her first H. (Mr. Bowles? Mr. Parker Bowles? Mr. Cuckhold?)

Jean

 
 
El
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Exactly Jane!

February 11 2005, 5:06 PM 

I have had the same thoughts all day. I am so bitter. I too would not be bothered if he married "some one" however, THIS was the "third party" in their marraige. This was the woman who did not allow a young bride to live her dream. OOH I could go on and on...

I have been listening to the radio all day and people say how sweet Mrs.PB is, and how it is a love story.

The fact is Prince what's his name went off to war and she married someone else. Their affair just never ended. Now she is marrying her love... wonder what SHE will/would feel like if she were to become a betryaed wife...

Forgive forget.. somethings I guess I just never will. A ghost in the castle you know what Jane I have often warned my H that if there is a way that is EXACTLY my plan. You hit a real nerve with me here. Reading your post was like reading my mind. Thaks for saying it so well Jane. I guess I am a little hot and bothered by it all.

El

 
 
Tex
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Re: Charles and Camilla....

February 11 2005, 6:02 PM 

At the risk of being beating here. I have a different take on it. My family lives in England...not that that means anything.

He's always been in love with her....since they were in their 20's. How hard must it be not having the one you love? Because she had a past? Doing it for duty and country?

I loved Diana, I still do. And hopefully she had moved on before her death. At least she seemed happy.

But waiting 30 yrs for someone must mean something.

 
 
mizmarie
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Re: Charles and Camilla....

February 11 2005, 7:26 PM 

It's hard to imagine the difficulties being born into royalty brings.

Royals are held to a higher standard, but they are just HUMAN like the rest of us, and consequently screw up just like the rest of us.

Yeah, maybe Charles and Camilla should have done things differently in the early years.

And yes, Princess Diana was such a beauty in so many ways, that we feel empathy and sympathy for her.

It's a tragedy all the way around.

One thing is for sure, Camilla appears to be a down to earth woman.

TLmm




 
 
Quinn
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Doesn't anyone watch Shakespeare anymore?

February 11 2005, 8:15 PM 

>>At the risk of being beating here ...<<

May I have the honor?

>>waiting 30 yrs for someone must mean something<<

That they're a little slow on the uptake? . I'm sure they're very fond of each other and it is sad that they couldn't sort themselves out when they were 20. It would be especially sad if Mum had made things more difficult for them then but the two of them have chosen some interestings way to deal with their "problem". They've run through 30 years and half a dozen spouses between the two of them and still haven't sorted it out.

Not to be too much of a curmudgeion but something smells in Denmark. His Royal Highness and his family are assured fabulous wealth and a life of luxury and priviledge based on no qualifications other than their lineage. It was my impression that "for duty and country" is their job description. Didn't his (great?) grandfather quit for something similar?

And if not for country, then what about for kids? If I'm going to feel sorry for any of them, it would probably be the young prince Hals. Dad marries woman who contributed to their mother's untold misery? There go a couple of Hamlets in the making.

 
 

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February 11 2005, 9:58 PM 

>>Didn't his (great?) grandfather quit for something similar?<<

That would be great-uncle. Edward VII (later the Duke of Windsor) was George V's older brother; he abdicated to marry the "American Divorcee" Wallis Warfield Simpson. I suspect her "crime" was more the "American" part than the divorcee part. After all, old Henry VIII started the Church of England after that nasty spat with the Vatican about kings remarrying after divorce.

George V was Elizabeth's father and Prince Chuck's grandfather.

Chris.

 
 

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February 12 2005, 4:05 AM 

No, it wasn't the American thing with the other king, it was the divorce. And it was definately the divorce with Henry V111. When all that happened, America hadn't even been invented..

(Ducking out of the way quickly)

The C and C thing is not going well for them. While he kept her out of the public eye, it was okay. They were in love, and they must have been able to have a great life together - but she has to have the Princess and HRH bit too. They shouldn't be celebratibg their lives and expecting us, ahem, subjects to join in.

People see what Diana's marriage and life were like under the onslaught of a relentless OW.

A Royal commentator said (Assuming posh voice) 'We will see the reaction of the public when Princess Camilla first appears on the balcony of Buckingham Palace to wave to the crowd' Ha.

It's the morality of the situaiton, pure and simple. OW's shouldn't set seige to a marriage, and then expect the rest of us to celebrate the tragic outcome.

This particular OW could be the cause of the ending of the British Monarchy after centuries.

 
 

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February 12 2005, 7:49 AM 

....This particular OW could be the cause of the ending of the British Monarchy after centuries....

Would that be such a bad thing?? Would you mind sharing your thoughts about it??

thanks

And as you walk you make your path Kat

 
 
Jane
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end of monarchy...

February 12 2005, 5:48 PM 

Alas she will not be the end of the monarchy. The British monarchy is a wonderful tradition that people will not allow to die because of a public affair and scandal. If that were the case they would have died out ages ago.

The monarchy has no real power, actually. They effectively created a political system that requires only that the monarch sign off on legislation. They don't veto things done by the duly elected parliament and what they provide is a measure of continuity and a tie to a rich and colourful past.

The riches and possessions they have are the accumulation of years of inheritance -- lands handed down through centuries and centuries. I am not British although I live in a commonwealth nation -- my parents are Italian immigrants (which has had its share of deposed monarchs). But as such I have learned to appreciate tradition and history and how the monarchy symbolizes those things.

So I don't think this one scandal will bring down the monarchy. Au contraire--the Queen actually has done much to ensure that Camilla will only be HR Duchess of Cornwall (not Princess of Wales as Di was) and that upon her son taking the throne, she won't have the type of authority which signs off on legislation, for example. She will be given the title of "Princess Consort"...

 
 
Sandy
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I was so angry (in loyalty to Diana)

March 1 2005, 2:04 PM 

I'm in England and I hated that day. I kept texting and e mailing Sky news, but, stangely, they didn't broadcast any of my messages!! They were things like:

Wonder if he'll manage to stay faithful this time, or will Camilla get to find out how poor Diana felt?

Every dog has his day, and now its the Rotweilers turn (remember that Diana referred to Camilla as the Rotweiler?)

Why does he want to get married and make vows? He obviously doesn't take them seriously.

And so on. Actually, I don't think he will end up happily ever after, there's a lot of bad feeling here. Thank goodness Diana's not here to witness it.


 
 
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