>>when i go to the opening page I feel like I am in a dentist office!<<
You mean one of those chic nouveau-dentist decors?
>>I am really not a fan of the mint paste color with the pastel pink beside it and the burgundy Recovery Discovery above.<<
Ummm. How about now (without "mint paste")?
Here's a tip for anyone interested in web design - don't mess around with web page colors after you've re-installed your OS, leaving the graphics card set at the default 256 colors. That would be really, really dumb. Try to remember to ugrade to 32-bit color.
I don't even know where the index page is!! All I want to know is how to get that smiley on here, they showed me how to do it on chat last night but its not working here, look -
see, no smiley
>>You used the word "shit" a few lines down in that same post, and you're asking if you can say "bottom? "<<
Well ... you never know who will be offended by what. For some it might be "shit" and for others it could be "bottom". It all depends. Most people are okay with "feces", "gluteus maximus" or even "coitus" because they are latinized and sound sophisticated. People are often less comfortable with the germanic equivalents even if the words mean exactly the same thing. Personally, I'd say a thousand years of this kind of Norman snobbery is quite enough (no offense, Kat). It's time for "feces", "gluteus maximus", and "coitus" to take their rightful place as the "dirty words" for a change.
Harriet Lerner made one of the most interesting points about this kind of thing in one of her "Dance of .... " books. In English, we have a polite word to refer to the male sexual organ (penis) but we can't seem to decide on anything for the female sexual organ. What is the female sexual organ, anyway? Our language suggests we're not sure. If you're trying not to be coarse or rude, the only commonly used word is "vagina" but "vagina" misses the mark by a wide margin (if you catch my drift, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more, say no more). Never having had one my own self (so I can't say for sure) but I believe Harriet Lerner when she tells me that the "vagina" (strictly speaking) isn't very sensitive and isn't especially important in sexual arousal. The poor old vagina (bless her heart) is more of a reproductive organ than a sexual one.
"Clitoris" is much too restrictive, IMHO. There's more to it than just the "clitoris". That leaves "vulva" which is probably more accurate but when was the last time you heard anyone using the word "vulva" in ordinary conversation? (You'd remember if you had.)
It's so confusing. I don't know what the hell to call "it". What should I tell my kids to call it? We don't have any special problem with "penis". Why do we have such a problem with "vulva"? All the slang terms we have for the male organ probably means that it freaks us out a little. However, the female organ must scare the bejeebus out of us if we have no idea what to call it without resorting to slang.
Well it's funny that you should bring that up Quinn. I'm reading a book that talks about this very thing. How are we supposed to teach young girls that being sexual is a normal natural thing, when we are apparently too ashamed of certain body parts to even call them by name? Instead we make up some fufu name because we (even as adults) can't say the word.
I've never understood what was wrong with calling a clitoris a clitoris, or a vagina a vagina. It's alway sounded quite silly to me when my mother in law referred to a vagina (when speaking with my daughter) as a "hooky tooky."
So I asked her one day why she called it that. She said....well it's embarrassing for a young girl to say the word "vagina" in public. Oh really? And a grown woman calling it a "hooky tooky" in public is not embarrassing? LOL
I don't think I even want to know what her fufu name for clitoris is. LOL
GT
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"It's alway sounded quite silly to me when my mother in law referred to a vagina (when speaking with my daughter) as a "hooky tooky." "
OMG GT I am still laughing at that!!! My mother refuses to say any word she just makes gestures or calls it "you know a woman thing".....LOL
How romantic does that sound..........honeyyyy can you play with my hooky tooky ROTFLMAO Hmmmmm if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck and looks like a duck then let's just call it a damn DUCK
Anybody ever seen Tim Allen do his piece (no pun intended) on the vagina? Happen to catch it at my parents place last night and my dad turned 3 shades of red, my mom left the room and there I sat with tears streaming down my face cause I couldn't stop laughing. My mom had THAT disgusted look on her face.....lol
Well we have about covered every topic now girls and boys......
>>>>>>My mother refuses to say any word she just makes gestures or calls it "you know a woman thing"<<<
My mother in law does this gesture thing with her eyes when she doesn't want to say something that embarrasses her. I act like I don't know what she means. (I know, I know, that's not nice)
Speaking of names for things. My daughter came home the other day and asked me what the "jiggy" was. She said a friend of her's told her you get pregnant by doing the jiggy with a boy. LOL
Some of my most sensitive and specific interviews have been with childen victims of sexual abuse. And according to the age and cognitive level different "tools" are used, from anatomically correct dolls to drawings.
Children are taught the most "outrageous" vocabulary when it come to calling sexual organs from "pocket book", "sweet pot", "honey pot" even "piggy bank".. etc.. etc... needless to say I had to learn to keep a straight face, a steady voice and use age appropriate tools in order to decipher what the hell they were describing ..!! how in the world can someone touch a vagina when fully dressed???
re: <<"Clitoris" is much too restrictive, IMHO. There's more to it than just the "clitoris". That leaves "vulva" which is probably more accurate but when was the last time you heard anyone using the word "vulva" in ordinary conversation? (You'd remember if you had.)>>
Yes, as a matter of fact, I do remember.... 'Cause I teach ny children the correct names. I mean, why would you call your arm anything else but your arm? I taught my little girl "vulva" -- so sometimes she'll say that, and sometimes she'll say "private area."
(By the way, my mom always wanted to know why a car maker would name a car "volvo" -- because it sounded so much like "vulva" ....she said once she said she couldn't imagine owning a car that sounded like that.
Now, the neighbor children (ages 10, 8 and 7) say "interesting" things like "wiener" "pee pee" "boobies" "boobs" and "down there," etc. Then again, the father has an issue with porn and the mother was molested by a family member when she was young.
I always imagine a nincompoop or other such person when I hear "boob." Now "breast" and "bosom" sound so much more...inviting, don't they?
>>my mom always wanted to know why a car maker would name a car "volvo"<<
I've always suspected that the Swedes have been running with their own little inside joke ("Hey everybody, I've got an idea ... let's call it "VOLVO! Safest ride on the planet!").
>>Now "breast" and "bosom" sound so much more ... inviting, don't they?<<
Yeah but don't forget "tits". I like "tits". "Tits" is a friendly-sounding word too. It would make a good nickname "Hey Tits! How're ya doing, man! Hey Tits this is Toots. Toots? Tits. Tits? Toots". (shameless George Carlin ripoff)
I'm still trying to decide if I can get my head around the "hooky tooky" program. It's as good as any and better than most, I guess.
>> ... the responsible person ... <<
If you find one, flag'm down. I need to speak to'm too.
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