Here is a real interesting Joe DiMaggio Game Used Glove Authenticated by Josh Evans. Check out the description. Anyone want a softball glove from one of the DiMaggio brothers???
At least the high feedback seller fully discloses that the largest and most reputable auction house refuses to run the glove on the basis of authenticity.
Re: Joe DiMaggio Game Used Glove - Authenticated by Josh Evans of Lelands
April 22 2005, 4:16 AM
I would feel more comfortable with a third party authentication. Denny Eskins of Pittsburgh, is the best there is when it comes to Game Used Gloves. Mr. Eskins doesn't buy and sell gloves like other Authenticators, who shall remain nameless.
I understand from reading the same thread on the other board that Josh Evans has owned up to this mistake, but that is not enough to simply own up to a mistake. There needs to be accountability. There are consequences that need to be faced when a mistake is made in this case those are that Josh should explain what happened, take it back, refund the money, and write it off his taxes as a loss.. I would love to hear from him on this. Supposedly the owner has brought this to Leland's attention and they refuse to offer a refund, even at the requested fraction of the original purchase price.....
Denny Eskin is the best when it comes to authenticating gloves. Too bad the hobby takes a letter of authenticty from the same guy (who will remain nameless) who is writing letters on NBA warm-ups, shoes, high school jerseys, etc. As I always say, homework, folks. Buy the item, not the letter.
As the previous writer notes, it is hard to believe a major auction house like Lelands would not refund the guys money. I once had a questionable glove from Grey Flannel, and Andy/Rich took it back the same day and refunded all of my funds. This is the action one would expect, especially on a high dollar item like this.
It's no secret that there is no love lost between Evans and Bushing. It's also no secret that Bushing has his share of disciples in the hobby. Is it a coincidence that the same guy who listed the DiMaggio glove also listed several game used bats authenticated by Bushing? Read between the lines folks.
Now that we know where Evans' "oops" DiMaggio glove is, there is a MUCH bigger question at hand. Where, or where, is Bushing's DiMaggio "rookie" glove that was sold in Halper's auction? Bushing bought and sold this glove as a "rookie" DiMaggio glove, but it wasn't even made until after his retirement. Who now owns this high-priced coaches glove? (Some may have seen this story covered on ESPN's Outside the Lines with Bob Ley).
None of these guys have any business authenticating ANY gloves. Denny Esken has forgotten more about gloves than these guys will ever know.
I was under the impression that Dave Bushing was the ebay seller known as Catchersmitt. Am I wrong? I figured people in this forum would know best. Thanks for any insight offered.
I agree with Jim that Denny Eskins will forget more about gloves then others will ever know! It was Denny who threw up the red flag about the Mantle glove that Billy Crystal bought at the Halper auction. It took a few years for the truth to come out but Denny was right!
How can you feel comfortable with an Authenticator that profits from his own paperwork. Too bad there isn't a not-for-profit agency that would render a true unbiased Authentication for Game-Used equipment. With all of these "horror" stories regarding authentication, I am starting to doubt some of the pieces in my own collection. As with doctors I think a second opinion may be a good idea.
Dave Bushing is not catchersmitt.
I have been on eBay since 1997 and have had catchersmitt since 1998.
Dave Bushing is dbushing1.
Why Mr. Bushing is mentioned regarding this glove is preposterous. He has nothing to do with the glove.
Please give use specific details of what transpired here. Did Leland's refuse to buy back the glove at the selling price? Did they also refuse to buy back the glove at a fraction of the selling price? If so, what were their reasons? Who did you speak to there? ...Please offer details...
I would like to avoid getting down in the gutter with this one but I guess I need to set the record straight although I thought I had already done so with earlier posting regarding this issue
First of all I never sold this guy (James Runyan) this glove so to pay him a refund for something I sold over 10 years ago to someone else seems ludicrous
Dan Knoll and I (ironically Dave Bushing’s partner) sold this glove to Duane Garrett of Wolffer's (since decreased)
I bought a fresh Joe DiMaggio jersey (real) and sold it to Dan Knoll for somewhere in the $130,000 range
Dan Knoll then grouped the same jersey with a Joe DiMaggio bat (real but with light if any use), along with the glove in question and asked me to offer it to Duane Garrett with whom I did some business with and Dan did not
At the time I questioned Dan about the glove (it looked strange but I am not a glove expert) and he said it came from Tony Cocchi and had air tight provenance
However, in retrospective we now know that Cocchi is not a good guy and has been involved with some very shady stuff that I am personally aware of
But at the time both Dan and I trusted him
We sold the group of three DiMaggio pieces to Duane Garrett for $175,000 (I believe) and Dan and I split the profit
As best I can remember Dan put his cost on the bat at $15,000 and his cost on the glove at $10,000
I only put in these numbers to show how well I remember the situation
In those days pieces of this value and weight were not sold every day
Years later I was approached by a noted DiMaggio collector (who has since sold his collection and is now out of the hobby as far as I know) who told me he bought the DiMaggio glove from Duane Garrett and it was fake
He wanted a refund from me
I told him that was fine but he could not get the refund from me
He had to get the refund from Duane Garrett and Wolffer’s and I would refund Garrett
This is my policy on two levels
First, I would only be responsible for what I sold it to Garrett for, and second I never sold him anything
Paul did get his refund from Wolffer’s and I waited but Garrett never approached me
That shocked me a bit but what happened to the glove from there I did not know
Many years later (and some months ago) we were contacted by James Runyan (and later by Doug Allen of Mastronet acting in his steed) who told us he wanted his money back for this fake glove
Again, how do you refund someone for something you never sold them?
Should people go out there and try to find fake pieces I have made mistakes on to get third (or four or fifth or infinity) party refunds
Yes out of $100 million worth of stuff in my career that I have sold they are out there
And from 13 years ago?!?!
Time is merely a side issue but still a factor
I was then told by Doug Allen that this guy Runyan was going to list the piece on eBay or in a full page in SCD (did Krause see through this?) as being fake and coming from me
Please
First, I feel little threatened by having to stand up and be counted for selling something fake 13 years ago
We should all own up to our mistakes from time to time to keep us on the right track
Second, and more importantly I felt this was extortion
Interestingly, according to Dan Knoll he advised Doug Allen to pay James Runyan out of his Mastronet account (how much I do not know) to make this all go away
I advised Dan not to on my account (blood money)
According to Doug Allen (through Dan) James Runyan refused, saying it had to come from me not Dan
Hmmmm
Dan Knoll has also made efforts to get this pure smear removed from eBay
I told Dan not to on my account
I think it’s an apt symbol about what is wrong with our hobby
And what is right
Hate to correct you but what are you talking about? I never contacted you about this glove as I never owned it. I have never even met you. I think you have your facts confused. I saw the sale on eBay and found it interesting. You have me mixed up with someone else.
Now that you brought me into I did read your response and had a question. My understanding is Duane Garret is dead and Wolfer's no longer exists. How do you propose this guy get his money back for his fake glove that you guaranteed? From what I read you admit you profited from the glove, you admit you were prepared to refund the money but you will only do so if the guy who has it (not me!) goes back to a person who is no longer alive to get the refund from you. 13 years ago or 20 years ago you sold a bad glove and since the guy you sold it to is no longer of this earth I would think this guy needs to have some sort of recourse. I just have one question. What do you propose this guy do?
authenticity for life, then you should figure out a way to refund money for an item that you profited from that was later found out to be fake. Do LOA's not transfer when ownership of the piece transfers to the new owner? If he can prove he bought it from someone for less than you sold it for, then perhaps you can refund him what he paid. Or how about you just win it off the ebay auction and take it out of circulation, since you helped to put it there....Take it as a tax write off on the business...
What's amazing is that the mighty dollar continues to drive this hobby, this is another example of a lack of ethics. If Mr. Evans and the rest of the hobby knows that this glove is crap. Then get it out of circulation. IF this glove comes with a letter from Lelands or Mr. Evans, Sorry pal, it is your problem. Not the problem of the original purchaser. Doesn't matter what the story is or how old it is, a mistake is a mistake and it has your name all over it. Get the bogus material out of the hobby. Just another reason why the little guy or novice collector gets a screwing in this hobby. CONTENT DELETED. Another auction house off my list.
Adam
This message has been edited by ecky3 on Apr 26, 2005 11:01 AM
Adam-
Great points-well said. I find it interesting that a previous posting indicated that Keith Veri has left Lelands.
For those who know Keith, he is one of the best individuals in the game used uniform business. His reputation is flawless.
Go figure!
Howard Wolf
If Evans and Knoll were men enough to profit from the sale of this glove (13 minutes, 13 days, or 13 years ago), Evans and Knoll should both be men enough to make the situation right. The middle man being deceased only accentuates this point. Both Evans and Knoll are rich men because of this hobby...so ante up and take the glove out of circulation once and for all. You wrote a letter on the glove, so it IS your problem. What does this say for ANYTHING that has come out of a Lelands auction with an Evans letter (or a Mastro auction with a Knoll letter)? CONTENT DELETED. It's time to pay the piper, big boys.
This message has been edited by ecky3 on Apr 26, 2005 11:02 AM
CONTENT DELETED these big name dealers are the ones you have to thank for turning this hobby into a business and taking the fun out of the pastime. what a sham.
This message has been edited by ecky3 on Apr 26, 2005 11:03 AM
If you decide to post again, I would love to hear responses directly to the questions in the posts from Adams, Howard, Jeff, Jim, and myself each preceeding this post. And no I have no agenda, I am simply a relAtively new collector who sees your response reeks of bullsh8t, and it gets me angry and upset about the hobby when one of the supposed "good guys" of the hobby can't just step up to the plate, own up to the LOA that he signed in 1992, and somehow make whole whoever got screwed by this glove AND GET IT OUT OF CIRCULATION. YOU OWN A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS, SUCK IT UP, BUY IT BACK, AND WRTITE IT OFF YOUR TAXES. It pisses me off that you can make all this money off of the collectors, but then when it times to help the hobby out, tou'd rather "take a pass" and expalin that this one bought it from that one who then died and sold it to blah, blah, blah , blah. You have an answer for everything.. Her's some advice - do the right thing and along with the tax write off you'll earn back a ton of integrity and respect that you are losing with every "excuse" post you make.
I am Bruce A. Weaver a high feeback experienced eBay seller who sells sports memorabilia among other things. I was approached by this consignor when he was unable to get the item authenticated for sale by a major auction house who was threatened with litigation when they attempted to obtain a refund for him. The person was open and honest that he had a letter from Josh Evans of Lelands but also had a contrary opinion from the authenticators of the leading auction house in this industry. He didn't know where to turn since the person who auctioned the glove was no longer alive and the person who it originated from was unwilling to buy back the piece. We agreed that the only way I would sell the piece was with full disclosure which is what I have done. Hope this answers your question.
This is Joe Phillips, the Glove Collector in Dallas. We ran a Glove Collector News Story on this purported Joe Dimaggio glove about 10-12 years ago about the time it appeared in the Wolfer's auction.
We'd heard indirectly from Mr. DiMaggio that he only played with Spalding gloves in the early part of his career. His brother, Vince, was a Hutch Dimaggio (this brand) and Hutch issued this glove with the DiMaggio signature without Vince's first name (Vince's signature if you wish to check) later possibly to benefit from the DiMaggio name. I think this glove surfaced later at a memorabilia store in Las Vegas and we passed this information along to the person who was interested at that time in purchasing it. I did not know, or did not remember that it carried a letter from Lelands. I've read Josh's explantion of what happened and was not aware that he or Dan Knoll were involved or Tony Cocci either with this glove.
The glove in question bears the characteristic sewn palm of softball gloves issued in the 1930s-40s but also on a few baseball gloves.
I would like also to point out that Denny Esken does buy and sell game-used gloves and has told me that he owns maybe a half dozen or so. Denny helps me out with game gloves and is absolutely marvelous at pinpointing the game gloves of the players in the past 20 years and is a thorough glove researcher. Going back earlier than that is difficult, because unlike H&B, Rawlings, Wilson and other glove companies didn't keep records of these issues and some of the companies aren't even around and have changed dramatically in past decades. Most of the information is just not available.
Bob Clevenhagen, the senior glove designer at Rawlings, has also helped us and will
asssist anyone in the hobby based on his knowledge and records there at Rawlings.
Joe DiMaggio Game Used Glove - Authenticated by Josh Evans of Lelands
April 25 2005, 5:51 PM
Joe,
Thanks for providing great history on this glove.
Board members are asking Josh Evans to respond to this issue and from my perspective, its too late. There is no need for him to respond. He should have responded when he knew that this glove was not what is was purported to be years ago. Damage Done. Reputation Tarnished. Even if he responds, so what. It just goes to show that the $$ is mighty than ethics in this case. Because of this thread,the members of this board have learned how another individual and his company operate.
Adam
With all due respect to Joe Phillips, Denny Esken's knowledge of gloves goes FAR beyond the last 20 years. Perhaps this was a typo, as Esken's knowledge goes back at least 50 years. Denny has regularly identified gloves from the 1950's (one example being a '56 Mantle glove currently residing in Cooperstown); the 1960's (the mid-1960's Mantle glove purchased by Billy Crystal as a '61); and most recently, from the 1970's, a Tom Seaver glove from the mid-1970's mistaken for a 1969 model.
Recent articles in SCD have said that Esken gets his information from the same place SCDA does - by calling Bob Clevenhagen at Rawlings. The fact is, Clevenhagen has been quoted as saying that Denny is the guy HE calls with questions on vintage Rawlings gloves! Make no mistake, Dennis Esken is the foremost authority on game used gloves dating back FAR beyond 1985!
I'm good friends with both Denny and Bob Clevenhagen. A lot of information on Rawlings (records, archives) Denny doesn't have that Bob has access to. Yes Denny has to rely on Bob some and Bob asks Denny some questions. Denny's Rawlings catalogs were ruined in a flood a couple of years ago. Denny studies the game glove subject and is a master of detail and memory. My point with Denny is that he's great on the last 20 years and he's fine on post '50s but the farther in time you go back, the more difficult it becomes to verify facts...And don't ever underestimate Bob Clevenhagen's knowledge of Rawlings gloves.
That is Denny's 50's Mickey Mantle glove in the Baseball Hall of Fame you're probably referring to. Denny made a shrewd deal a few years ago and got the glove for a reasonable price (cash and trade) and says he will take a million dollars for it today. The glove originally, I understand, was in the Holiday Inn Museum in Joplin. He also has told me that he owns five or six other gamers (Ryan, Ripken) gloves that he's been able to purchase.
Shortly afterwards Denny did tell me about the "mis-dated" Mantle glove in the Halper/Sothebys auction because at the time he had the correctly dated glove '56-60. We had also spotted the Dimaggio gloves being badly mis-dated and virtually switched. Some of this problem has to rest with Barry Halper, Sothebys and its director. In fact when Robert Plancich first contacted us about the Sothebys Mantle glove, I mentioned to him that the auction's DiMaggio gloves were either switched or their notes (earlier glove from latter glove) from DiMaggio were. The "Yogi Berra" mitt in the auction was an imported made, youth mitt and heaven help Berra if he had to have used that. There was a very expensive Lou Gehrig gamer mitt in the auction, yet no one has called this into question because there's little data to refute or satisfy it, only the owner provenance, I would assume.
I think the million dollar figure on the '56 Mantle glove relates to Denny's knowledge of owning a true piece of baseball history. It's not about the money for Denny - it's about a love for gloves, the game, and the history behind the finest piece of leather on the planet.
Denny isn't the wheeler/dealer some think he is, but there is no denying his being the world's foremost authority on gloves. Keep up the great work Denny - you're one of the true good guys - the last of a rare breed.
I've known Denny Eskin for a number of years now. There isn't a more honest man in the hobby. His passion is gloves and he is the BEST around. He is a real human being and the hobby is lucky to have him. If more auction houses used him, there would be a lot less junk floating around.
Denny is simply the best-Lelands, not worth my time
April 26 2005, 6:59 AM
I have known Denny for almost 20 years. Not only is he a great individual, he is by far the most knowledgeable person in terms of gloves. When speaking with him, I often ask him about a specific player and what glove they used, in terms of brand, model, and interesting characteristics. For example, I have Tim McCarvers 1972 Phillies glove. Not only did Denny know the model, he knew interesting characteristics of the glove to boot! I have NEVER stumped him, and likewise, he is a tremendous asset to the glove collecting arena. It is a shame that the various auction houses depend on the so called “experts” in the hobby to authenticate gloves, and exclude Denny. First the bad Seaver glove, now the DiMaggio. God only knows how many other bogus gloves are in collectors hands, unknowingly waiting to sell them down the road. How many more Dimaggio and Seaver “Rookie” and “Special game” gloves are unknowingly stashed away in collections with the so called “Iron Clad letter of authenticity”?
Keith Veri-glad to see you found a new home.
Howard Wolf
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For years in the game-used glove market Denny was an overlooked silver-lining in a rather dreary cloud. A fellow named Dave Drozen was one of the first dealers to operate in this area (gamer gloves) and unfortunately many "ungenuine" articles slipped into the market place. Denny would advise Drozen on gloves attempting to help him out with background and identification information. He finally tired of this when he saw what was happening, not only there but with other dealers in the so-called hobby at the time.
When Tim Lee was writing game-used equipment articles in Sports Collectors Digest, it was obvious Dennis knew an abundance more about the gamer information, gloves especially, than Lee, and we often talked this over.
Dennis has always offered to share game glove information with me and we've had many discussions about all types of gloves and the game of baseball which Denny and I both love and have played on various levels. He has turned this devotion now to helping youngsters and oldstders alike in strength training and techniques for baseball play.
Mr. E. has dissected, probed and studied the glove its employment and how various position players use their gloves, which is important.
Does Dennis own a more correctly dated Mantle game-glove than Billy Crystal? My money's on Denny. He took the time to call the retired Rollie Latina and find out how the Mantle glove(s) were laced, reinforced and what exactly Rawlings was sending to Mantle in those days. Power to him to make a great deal in acquiring his glove.
As some of you may know, my background, as limited as it is, has been with the less expensive store model gloves. I own one gamer, that's an A2001 a coaches or manager's glove of the late Harry Craft. We have been providing information on all types of baseball gloves now since 1989 and are nearing production on our 90th "Glove Collector Newsletter." Our "Glove Catalog Source Book" is a great tool for discovering which glove model numbers might have been used for professional issue. It should not be considered the only source, but it's a great tool. We've written articles for hobby publications and internet sites on gloves going all the way back to the 19th century.
I'm grateful we've had Denny in the glove hobby. He's been ignored too often in the past, and it would be wonderful if his expertise and knowledge could be lent to the people who have needed and, at times, asked for his help.
Is it possible to put closure to this issue? Will we ever hear from Josh? He had no issue TRYING to make an earlier case with his posting. How about a response since then?
Howard Wolf
Hey everyone. I hate to do this, but there are policies. It is one thing to have opinions on these matters, but there are comments in this thread that are without factual support so I am going to have to remove them.
Please adhere to the policies found on the main page.
Eric
moderator
I have been following this very closely..as you may remember, I was the one who provided the language for and suggested the policy be put in place..If you don't want to mention what you consider the information that must come down is, please send me an e-mail so I can understand what it is you are talking about..
Thanks for responding to me with your e-mail. You are the moderator and remving informtion is within your perview. I thank you for the time you devote to this forum.
While I will agree that not all the informtion provided has been flattering to all concerned, I did not see it as "crossing the line.."
Like I said, thanks for the response and it is your call...
Dave-
I too had the contents of my posting edited. Eric, if this site is to serve the intended purpose of free flowing info, please, let the info. flow. Why would you remove the closure to my post? It did not "cross the line", rather, praised Keith Veri for his knowledge and expertise. Please, remove the "Big Brother" element.
Howard
There is no "Big Brother" element here. Any good forum has to have rules.
I have reconsidered the comment I deleted about Keith moving companies. After re-reading it, it does not seem inflammatory.
I rarely edit this site. In 4 months, this is only the 2nd time an issue like that has come up. I don't like to edit this site. This is a place where ideas can flow freely.
Eric
This message has been edited by ecky3 on Apr 26, 2005 12:35 PM
Eric,
After reading Mr. Wolf's post I too thought it was irrelevant and antagonistic. However, after reading it again, I too have reconsidered.
Mr. Wolf, since we don't know if Keith is even reading this board, may I suggest you pick up a telephone and offer your praise directly, I'm sure it would be appreciated.
To those who complain about "Big Brother", you are free to do as Eric has done and start your own board and make your own rules. Keep up the good work Eric.
Howard, thanks for wishing me the best with my new job. I do not understand why my name has been popping up here lately but I just wanted to say something about my experence with Lelands.I previously worked for Lelands for almost 5 years and would like to thank them as I learned alot from working with both Mike and Josh. I try not to read this forum but have heard that people were bashing Lelands. In the 5 years I was there they always tried to do the right thing and we did all authentication in house as they felt that we had the in house ability to do it with out out side help, and the way the forum bash's authenticators you have to give them credit as the auction is one of the cleanest in the hobby. Josh and Mike have more knowledge in this hobby then most will give them credit for. Mike's knowledge in both Autographs and game used is probably unparelled and Josh has knowledge in just about everything else ( game used alittle weak )and would put him right near the top of his field. I learned many things while there and never seen them deliberatly sell anything with a problem and if there was a problem with an item they always made good on the item while I was there. We took back many a Dodger ball when we found out that they were clubhouse signatures, one that Lelands took back was for almost 10,000.
As for me leaving Leland's I was there 5 years and it was time to look for a new adventure and it had nothing to do with either Josh or Mike. To this day I still speak to both of them and stop by the office on a semi regular basis.
Josh and Mike are very good people and they will always try to do the right thing all you have to do is be nice and not come in all hell bent and they will work with you, as with all of us the more greif you are given the more you for fight back. In the end I am confident that Lelands will always do the right thing. As for this glove thing how many of the bat dealers returned client money on Mantle bats after they found out that there was a way of dating Mantle bats not from 65 to 72 but 65 to 68 and 69 to 72? Everyone has made mistakes in the hobby including myself and I am sure that everyone on this site if honest will agree to making a mistake but a mistake from almost 15 years ago deservers to be put to rest as if what Josh said about Dan being a partner and Dan offering to settle with client is true which I do not doubt than client derserves to keep the glove and his bitterness.
Thanks for visiting the board and expressing your thoughts, but the fact remains that there are many questions brought up by various forum members that are not being addressed by Josh. Obviously he doesn't have to answer to anybody, but I think it would be smart business to come out and respond to the forum members legitimate questions. You shouldn't have to speak on his behalf...
Keith,
Yes we do all make mistakes. I would agree with you. But I dont agree with you when you say we are "bashing" Josh Evans/Lelands. If a mistake is made, you correct the mistake. Apparently from what you wrote, Lelands has corrected mistakes in the past but why not with this glove. It doesnt matter how long ago the mistake was made.
This statement is irrelevant:
"As for this glove thing how many of the bat dealers returned client money on Mantle bats after they found out that there was a way of dating Mantle bats not from 65 to 72 but 65 to 68 and 69 to 72?"
It doesnt matter how other dealers are conducting themselves. Leland's stoops to their level when they don't correct THEIR mistakes.
We are all collectors on this site who won't go near the glove but how but the novice collector who see's the glove on ebay and buys it. Letter from Lelands, it must be good.
You fix the mistake. Otherwise, years from now we will be having the same discussion when this piece raises its ugly head again.
I just wanted to let everyone know that I stopped the auction for the DiMaggio glove based on the fact that various parties related to this situation came to an acceptable solution. The consignor is satisified because he recieved what he believes to be a reasonable offer for the glove. A special thanks to Dan Knoll. Although he never owned or authenticated this glove, due to the fact material he did own and authenticate (a bat and jersey) were included in the original deal to Duane Garrett, he felt responsible to make sure the right thing was done. To that end he was instrumental in making sure financial restitution has been made and the glove and associated letter of authenticity have been destroyed.
Glad things worked out for the guy with the glove..but I am still a bit confused as to who purcahsed the glove for sale..If you read Josh's post, he states that:
"Dan Knoll and I (ironically Dave Bushing’s partner) sold this glove to Duane Garrett of Wolffer's (since decreased)
I bought a fresh Joe DiMaggio jersey (real) and sold it to Dan Knoll for somewhere in the $130,000 range
Dan Knoll then grouped the same jersey with a Joe DiMaggio bat (real but with light if any use), along with the glove in question and asked me to offer it to Duane Garrett with whom I did some business with and Dan did not
At the time I questioned Dan about the glove (it looked strange but I am not a glove expert) and he said it came from Tony Cocchi and had air tight provenance However, in retrospective we now know that Cocchi is not a good guy and has been involved with some very shady stuff that I am personally aware of
But at the time both Dan and I trusted him
We sold the group of three DiMaggio pieces to Duane Garrett for $175,000 (I believe) and Dan and I split the profit."
At some point in time, someone bought the glove from Toni Cochi..according to Josh it was he and Dan or one of them..any insights..
Dave,
I believe I answered your final question regarding Mr. Knoll:
"Although he never owned or authenticated this glove, due to the fact material he did own and authenticate (a bat and jersey) were included in the original deal to Duane Garrett, he felt responsible to make sure the right thing was done."
Additional questions should be directed to the pertinent parties involved.
That said, I wish to put a final closure to the glove and accompanying LOA.
Bruce
