Unfortunately we cannot see the card close up as they do when they grade them, but I'm confident that PSA is as close to accurate as possible since their cards bring more than any other grading company in the same grade. They have been around the longest and while they are not perfect, I will continue to buy cards in their holder.
True that the cards look exactly the same but I'm sure that there is a SLIGHT difference ( especially since we cannot see the back ).
There will ALWAYS be someone who wants a 10 and not a 9.
No doubt of that Damir but I would humbly submit that that desire has little if anything to do with the actual condition of the card (vis-a-vis the 9 that is).
This message has been edited by orrcards on Feb 13, 2007 6:45 PM
I agree that people will often pay for the PSA 10 due to the label, not for the card. When it comes to a card like this, the difference isn't noticable to the naked eye. Yes, I'm sure that PSA can tell the difference with their equipment, but since I don't have that equipment available, what difference does it really make? (As a collector, not an investor.)
This Bucyk isn't an important card at all. It isn't a rookie and it isn't a short print. I wouldn't be that excited to own it myself, unless I was going to sell it. Personally, I would rather have a nice PSA 8 or 9 of an older rookie card. I haven't ever understood taking a $25 card, putting it in a plastic holder with a label with a 10 on it, and paying over $300 for it.
Luckily for PSA, many other people feel differently.
I have to agree with Al! The difference is so small between the two cards that a 9 is more than enough! The difference is so small between a 9 and a 10 and the premium you will pay for that 10 is just not justifed.
For example the PSA 10 Greztky that just sold for $80,000.00. I am sure you could get a 9 for about $15,000.00-20,000.00! Therefore look at the difference in what you will pay between a 9 and a 10 - $60,000.00 more! For what very slight diference in centering?? I know some people will say it is a 1 of 1 and that is THE best card in the world - but so what!
"The difference between a 9 and a 10 is the difference between imperfection and perfection."
I don't think the two cards look exactly the same. I would say the 9 is off-center T/B.
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How the heck do you quote a post here anyway ?
You could put it like that if it weren't for the fact that it is a wholly subjective process...and I am quite sure that the bottom left corner is better on the 9 than the 10.
The fact is that the only reason to own that 10 is so that you can "own" the person who bought the 9. And I mean no offense by that, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it. I suppose it's just another reason to collect; or maybe an additional reason to collect. Human nature even. But I think that justifying that price by saying that it is because the 10 (any 10) is a nicer card, more visually appealing is, ummmm, insincere, I guess would be a nice way of saying it.
Another example of modern grading is in the diamond industry. When I bought my wife's engagement ring, there were the rings in the display case that had the price tag hidden on the bottom. In the next case were the rings that were individually displayed in small blue velvet cases. Each had a label with a grade and other information about the diamond. These rings weren't much bigger, but they were considerably more expensive!
Obviously, the rings weren't sealed in plastic, so each diamond could be damaged and the "grade" affected. Honestly, the average guy who walks into a jewelry store to buy a diamond doesn't know much so these graded diamonds are a good way to convince a guy to spend a lot of cash. I just find it interesting that other industries are using grading as a way of convincing people to spend more money than they might normally plan to.
Just like buying a PSA 10 over a PSA 9.
"Trust me, it's better! I know that it looks the same to you, but to the trained eye, the 10 is MUCH nicer!"
So why buy a 9 when an 8 is damn nice card (and it will be cheaper than the 9)?
The argument to buy a 10 over a 9 actually makes more sense to me than does any other grade differential since the grader is saying he considers one of the two cards to be flawless and the other flawed.
This message has been edited by marcus0202 on Feb 13, 2007 8:38 PM
That's what I say; actually I prefer 7s because I feel that at that grade that I can be reasonably certain that I have a card in the minimum condition that I want i.e. that is acceptable to me personally.
But the difference between an 8 and a 9 is that the 9 is deemed "MINT", for one thing (but wait, how can a "MINT" card be bettered ?!?!); but regardless of that, the point is that the difference between a 9 and a 10 in this case appears to be a 600% higher price (if I'm doing the math right). I doubt very much whether there would be that order of magnitude between an 8 and a 9.
just buy a nrmt-mint raw card for a buck and slap it in your binders.that pop 2 will change in the near future and then what is that psa 10 worth? what a waste of money.just my opinion. lol
I suppose most outsiders would find the hobby in its entirety rather absurd, but the premium for a 10 over a 9 seems to be the pinnacle of foolishness given the often negligible difference in the cards' condition.
yes i am agree with you most people.. the difference in a 9 or a 10 is probably not see with naked eyes but with professional tools you can probably see it. i own a 9 gretzky rookie and i have on my PC the scan of the gem mint gretzky rc psa 10 and this card is a little better condition of the mine. But certainly i am not agree to paid 75 000 $ more for a 10... a psa 9 gretzky sold around 5000 usd and a 10 80 000 usd.
so a 10 card have a little difference of a 9 . The trill with gthe psa 10 card is to own a 1 of 1 card.. a unique item! The speculation of the value, it is the beauty of the high grade card
Nelson
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