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Most desireable SP card

September 23 2007 at 6:32 PM
Damir  (Login DamirTomicic)

We have 3 SP cards that are obviously very rare and expensive.
1933-34 V129 #39 Harry Oliver
1924-25 V130 Maple Crispette #15 Sprague Cleghorn
1923-24 V145-1 #25 Bert Corbeau
Which of these would be the most desireable to you?
How many cards of each are even known to exist?
How much have any of these cards sold for publicly?
How many of you have ever seen any of these in person?


I'm very curious about everyone's opinion on these cards. We have talked mostly about the Corbeau on these forums but I would like to tackle all 3 cards in this thread and see how you guys view these 3 and how you rank them against each other.

 
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Paul
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Re: Most desireable SP card

September 23 2007, 7:31 PM 

Personaly I would like the Bert Corbeau as It would help me with my set and it is a rookie card.

The second on my list would be the Harry Oliver as it is also a rookie card. If I am not mistaken Harry Oliver is also a HOFer.

I have never seen any in person and I have never seen any on eBay or in any other online auction - either Mastro or Mile High.

I have heard that the Bert Corbeau is an easy $20,000.00 in ungraded condition - any condition. I also heard that a whole set of 1923 v145-1 sold with the Corbeau for $125,000.00 and the Corbeau in that set was supposedly $65,000.00 out of the entire set. I am not sure what the grades in the set were.

Thanks,
Paul


    
This message has been edited by shiftintermedia on Sep 23, 2007 7:38 PM


 
 

Mark Holt
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Re: Most desireable SP card

September 23 2007, 7:32 PM 

They are equal in my mind - 2 HOFers and the V145-1 set is a classic, so any of them would be a centerpiece for a collection.

 
 

donald
(Login danthevintageman)

vintage sp's

September 23 2007, 11:07 PM 

i did see a corbeau about 10-12 years ago at the toronto expo. dealer had it in the center of his showcase,i think the price he had back then was $30,000 (does anyone else remember that one).also a few months ago right here on the forum jim did show us a photo of i think 3 or 4 corbeau's together that belonged to someone, i can not recall what the subject was about on this forum to share it with you all. also the "vintage hockey collectors book" on page 74 as part of a half page ad shows the corbeau and gleghorn card that villeneuve did once have awhile back "i wonder what he sold those for ?" i have yet to see the oliver sp,so i will rank the oliver as the toughest,the gleghorn as second toughest and corbeau as third based on what i have seen and experienced.


    
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John Nguyen
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Most Desireable SP Card

September 24 2007, 2:00 PM 

Damir,

Personally, I rank them #1 V129 Oliver, #2 Maple Crispette Cleghorn, #3 V145-1 Corbeau.

As far as importance in the hockey pantheon, I rank them #1 Corbeau, #2 Cleghorn, #3 Oliver.

Sprague Cleghorn and Harry Oliver are both HOFer's while Corbeau isn't. The V145-1 set is considered one of the cornerstone sets of pre-war hockey, if not vintage and all of hockey. I collect the V129 set, so I have a bias towards this set. The Maple Crispette are on the bland side, even mid to higher graded ones. I have never even seen the V129 Oliver vs. seen 1 picture of the Cleghorn vs. several (7-8) of the Corbeau. Rare things just seem to lose some of their luster when you see multiples of them.

 
 

Jim F
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Re: Most desireable SP card

September 24 2007, 2:35 PM 

It may be just me but I'd rather have the Quaker Oats Maurice Richard over any of them. Jim.

 
 
Rob Ritchie
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55-56 Quaker Oats # 37 Richard

September 24 2007, 7:17 PM 

speaking of this card has anyone ever actually seen one out there?

Rob

 
 
Damir
(Login DamirTomicic)

Re: Most desireable SP card

September 24 2007, 9:28 PM 

Jim, I forgot about the Quaker Oats Richard. We can definitely add him to the list. As big as these SP cards are, can you imagine if Morenz, Vezina, Lalonde, or Taylor were the redemption cards.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 
 
Sarto
(Login Goldcatcher)

About the Richard 55-56 Quaker Oats..

September 25 2007, 5:08 PM 

I ve been asking this question on this forum a while ago if anyone have ever seen an example of this Rocket Richard card. However i did not get any answer of any kind at the time. Did anyone have EVER seen one in any condition? If someone does, i would like to know it and i am surely not the only one. I guess most example produced have been sent back ( in those years) to Quaker Oats to let the person who had it received his prize in exchange of the card.....Sarto

 
 

Jim F
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Forum Owner

Re: Most desireable SP card

September 25 2007, 7:08 PM 

Sarto. I posted a scan of all of the shortprints a couple of months ago. I will post it again if I can find it. Jim.

 
 


(Premier Login hockey_jim)
Forum Owner

Re: Most desireable SP card

September 25 2007, 7:12 PM 


 
 

(Login billyberu)

55-56 Quaker Oats # 37 Richard

September 25 2007, 7:43 PM 

Thanks for the pic Jim. The Holy grail does exist. What does a card like this fetch on the open market?

 
 

(Login Goldcatcher)

nice pic Jim

September 25 2007, 9:10 PM 

Hi Jim,
Nice picture. At least now, i can say it does exist. Do you own the card ? It look like a vg example but still. Great card. Thanks. Sarto

 
 
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