according to you guy, wich post war rookie card is the most coveted card? Wich rookie card every collector want in his collection ?

gretzky rookie? richard rookie? howe, hull orr plante, beliveau....

what do you think wich name is the first you come in mind.

I know my most coveted was always a Rocket rc until I got my PSA 7. Now, I think a Plante PSA 7 or PSA 8 rookie would be my most coveted. Can anyone help me out?

-Nathaniel

Many are coveted and you will get different answers from just about everyone here. Mine would have to be the 1966 Test Bobby Orr. The card is in the Mile High auction right now in a PSA 8.5(none graded higher)and it's already north of $30,000. In my opinion THE card of the greatest player to ever play.

Personally for myself a Sawchuk RC or a Plante Quaker Oats RC but in the hobby overall it must be Orr or Gretz.





Garret Morrison
www.thesummitshow.com

I agree with Damir,
1966-67 Bobby Orr Topps Test Rookie.

I bought one 12 years ago as a PSA 6 and took it out of the PSA case right after i bought it as i don't care for graded cards.
If i ever do resell it i will get it Re-Graded though.

The card is the one pictured on page 154 in the "Vintage Hockey Collector Price Guide"

For me it is topps test or topps orr rookie. I know the test is more rare but my question is not about serie... is more about player....for me in my question topps test or topps.. or quaker oats VS parkhurst is the same player rookie...

so for mee Orr rookie is the most coveted post war rookie card.

any of you know why bobby hull rookie look like to have less interest than the other big rookie ? in the beckett, the value of hull is the same of orr or howe.. but i can see on ebay result and asking price for the same grade, orr and howe will be finish higher than hull

anybody know why?

"any of you know why bobby hull rookie look like to have less interest than the other big rookie ? in the beckett, the value of hull is the same of orr or howe.. but i can see on ebay result and asking price for the same grade, orr and howe will be finish higher than hull"

"anybody know why?"


Nelson,
The Bobby Hull Rookie card is the last card in the set for that hockey card year and is a difficult card to find centered.
Thats why you get a lot of the premium added to that card at $3000 in the Beckett.
In My Opinion, if that card was not the last card in the set and did not have the centering problem it is known for, i really think it would be about a $1500 card at best.
This is why people just will not pursue this card as much as a Bobby Orr/Gordie Howe etc... card because i think it is over priced to begin with.
Also he is not as popular as Orr/Howe/Richard etc... so the demand is less for that car which equals lower sales values.

thanks for the answer. i had alway ask this question for me and the answer is clear now. i live in quebec, and in quebec all canadien HOF are popular.. lafleur, plante, richard beliveau is more and more popular than howe or orr... but in other place in canada and usa i had thinked.. perhaps hull was popular and it is why the value of 3000$.. so now with your answer i have my repond.. it is because it is the last card in the set and the bad centering.

sorry for my english i try to explane my idea the more clear i can...

thanks !

I never really understood why Hull never had the following that the other mentioned greats had. You would figure that the top goal scorer in that era would have a bigger following than he did. All the goalies from his era talk about how scary it was when he shot the puck. Could be that Chicago was not an ideal place to play in terms of popularity. He left for the WHA as the second all-time goal scorer and who knows how many more goals he could have scored if he stayed. The move to the WHA could possibly have hurt his popularity with the die hard fans of the NHL.

howe also switch for wha i think ? his popularity was not hurt by this move

no?

Howe switched long after his prime. His career was pretty much over and many didn't care much about the move. He just wanted to play with his sons and wouldn't have done anything if he continued to play in the NHL. The level of play was much too superior to the WHA and he was just too old to play at a high level. I have never heard a single person talk about Howe's WHA career. He will always be remembered as an NHL'er on a great team.

Maybe winning more than one Stanley Cup would have put Hull higher on people's list.
Hull is still regarded as one of the best players of all-time by many so his place in history will always be high. Many players were greatful when he left because the move helped increase alot of their salaries.
Didn't he have alot of off-ice problems? Maybe that contributed to a lack of hard core followers like the others.

Long before I became a hockey fan, I had heard of Gordie Howe. I remember hearing about him playing into his 50's and being the all time leading goal scorer, at that time. Once I became interested in hockey and started reading about some of the famous players of the '50's and '60's, the names that came up the most were Richard, Beliveau, Plante, Howe, Orr, and a few others. It seemed like Hull wasn't mentioned very often. The actual price of his card is so high that I don't know if I will ever buy one. Some of the players have such a legendary status that you don't mind spending a lot to buy their rookie card, but Hull's reputation doesn't seem to justify the price tag of his card.

I don't mean any disrespect to Hull as a player, it's just that he doesn't have the following of Orr, Richard or Howe.

ok you name many time richard... why richard rc have a low $ value in comparison of orr and howe...

a value of 3000 $ too for richard rookie was not fair? why the richard rc value is low comparison of howe and orr ?

Nelson, you are just talking about book price, which we all know means nothing. American hockey fans from my experience have paid very little attention to Richard since he played in Montreal and was French. This is why he means so much to French Canadians (like LaFleur).
You have to remember some of these rookie cards are not hard to find in high grade just like Hull's card is very hard to find in high grade.
Can you imagine if there were 100 PSA 10 Gretzky rookies? They would probably be $8-$10,000 instead of the $80,000 that the one sold for.
51 Parkhurst cards are very easy to find in high grade but the Howe will always be more than the Richard even though they sell for alot in high grade.
I think the Hull RC will also sell for more than the Richard RC in the same grade since it's the last card and very rare in high grade.

It's just hard for me to understand how Hull is ranked #8 in the Hockey News top 100 players and doesn't have a big following.
It could also be because Howe was the big name and he was always in his shadow. Then when he was at the top of the league as the top scorer Bobby Orr came and we all know no one has a bigger following than him. He is a very big name here in Chicago and always will be, but I guess he just never caught on in other places.

I think we need to hear from the people who watched all of these players play and lived through their careers. Maybe they can shed some light on why some players were just not as popular as others. Everyone loves goal scorers, so it's a surprise to me why Hull is so far behind the others in the popularity department. It kind of reminds me of Mike Bossy, a big goal scorer but because of Gretzky he will hardly ever be mentioned with the best.

i understand. you talk in your txt about top 100 player, do you have this top 100 on the web i can read it ? here in quebec canada i can tell 1 thing :

maurice richard for every people here, it is the greatest hockey player of hall time.. for all he do on the ice and out of the ice...

http://icehockey.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_100_greatest_hockey_players_by_The_Hockey_News