February 23, 1988 Vol. 13, No. 4
Articles included are the cover story - Stephen Nichols Unmasked and David Forsyth's Vietnam Horror.
Other Articles and Interviews in this issue included:
James Goodwin's Charmed (?) Life
GL's Johnny is a country boy who has made it in the big city - on more than luck and timing.
EDGE OF NIGHT got this Southern belle started, and now she's a hit on DESIGNING WOMEN.
Randolph Mantooth's First Love
Sure, he likes playing LOVING's Clay, but the former EMERGENCY star would rather be on Broadway.
Easy Come, Easy Go
TV fame is great, as long as you don't lose your job, say some actors.
Couples sizzle off screen as well as on. Here's a look at actors' real-life love lives.
Serials feature some gorgeous wedding gowns.
Cover Story Stephen Nichols Unmasked
by Dan Logan
Stephen Nichols comes straight to the interview from a day on the set of DAYS OF OUR LIVES. At Le Dome in Hollywood, most of the diners are dressed in keeping with the string of Rolls Royces parked in the lot. That is to say, elegantly. Not long after Dyan Cannon leaves in a high-fashion miniskirt and thigh-high black boots, Nichols strides in wearing well-worn stovepipe bluejeans and a string tie. Its Patch himself, minus the trademark eyepatch and black leather jacket. Nichols drops into a chair and the interview quickly turns into a quiet conversation.
I have my script with me its my friend, my constant companion, he says without embarrassment. If I just look at it during the day, it sort of soaks in.
The script doesnt appear to be an actors prop intended to show how serious he is about acting. Like Patch, Nichols seems to be an upfront guy; what you see is what you get. But with Nichols, theres a mild side. Its Steve Johnson minus the sandpaper quality.
Perhaps the key to Stephen Nichols is out in the parking lot, amid the Rolls Royces. Nichols has arrived in the family station wagon, a Ford Taurus. Not exactly a hell-for-leather driving machine. Or one that will turn heads at Le Dome. But it does the job for a father who enjoys making up songs to sing to his children.
Actually, the Patch role was an ideal assignment for this intense and ambitious young actor. Given a minor part as a street rebel, Nichols fleshed him out. He worked in a sense of humor and a unique vocabulary that soon made Patch a sympathetic anti-hero a far cry from the run-of-the-mill sleazeball he had originally been handed. Soon it was apparent that Nichols had created a character worthy of the devotion of the shows rabidly romantic fans. As a result of their response, the part grew.
DAYS OF OUR LIVES is that way, he explains. The follow the actors lead. They bring in a person for a small part, and if that person is creating something that really stands out, they go with it.
Assessing the situation, Nichols decides that he was able to see, and take advantage of, a flaw in the original conception of Patch: his language. Because my character is a little bit specialized hes kind of a street person not everyone knows how to write that kind of dialogue, he says. They tend to write them all the same, which is like forties gangster-type dialogue. But the Patch personality wasnt cardboard to Nichols, it was quite familiar. So instead of playing a stereotype, he pushed for a more contemporary, street-wise twist. I just have a feel for this kind of person, I guess, he says, adding that he based Patch on real-life acquaintances. I really used people I knew as a kid. When they grew up, this is the kind of guy theyd be. And I use a lot of my own life experiences.
Certainly, there are parallels. Born in Cincinnati, his early life was disrupted when his father abandoned the family. Eventually his mother remarried and the family moved to nearby Dayton. His interest in acting goes back to the musical variety shows he watched on television as a kid but, at home, academics were stressed over more creative pursuits. My mother wanted me to be a Trotwood, Ohio police officer, he says, laughing. When I was a kid, I had all those creative feelings art, singing in the chorus but because I didnt get that encouragement at home, they were like dreams to me.
A year after high school he moved to Los Angeles, passing up an art scholarship to Ohio State University because he wasnt sure if he wanted to go to college. One reason for his choosing L.A. was what he refers to as the old monk story that everybody knows. That is, he joined the Self-Realization Fellowship Center with the intention of becoming a monk. I wouldnt even call it a religious thing, he reflects. It was for me to find out what I was supposed to do in this life it was what I have to call a spiritual search. During his most intense three-year affiliation with the center, Nichols worked as cook for the organization. Today, he still has spiritual ties with the group (his children attend Sunday school there), although as he puts it, he lives in the outside world.
Realizing that becoming a monk didnt suit him, he began to study acting at the Los Angeles City College Theater Academy. I had a real desire to make something of myself. My feelings about myself, growing up, were very confused. When I found there something I could
do, and I could do well, I was very excited about that, he recalls.
After City College, he acted on the stage, performing in such plays as Delirious, The Cage, Death of a Salesman,
andPieces of Time.
His first movie was Choices
, with Demi Moore, and he made five more movies before he became a regular on DAYS. On television, he did guest appearances on DALLAS, CRAZY LIKE A FOX and T.J. HOOKER. I was on the very first episode of DYNASTY because my ex-in-laws wrote and created that show, he says in passing.
Publicity bios rarely mention an actors age, particularly if the actor is playing someone younger than himself, and Patch is assumed to be about twenty-eight. Nichols bio is no exception, but when asked, he promptly says hes thirty-six. I dont care, I dont want to lie about anything, he says. I dont think thats going to hurt me. These producers, and people who want the guy twenty-eight, look at me and say, He looks twenty-eight. Whats the problem? I dont have any problem with it, really. I dont feel old. I feel like the thirties have been the best years of my life, so far. And, in fact, across a table and separated by a couple bottles of Perrier, he does look twenty-eight.
We spend a lot of time talking about acting. The spiritual side Ive pursued has always helped me in my work. I really believe in practice. My grandfather always told me practice makes perfect. Its a silly cliché, but I tell my kids that, he says with a laugh. His attitude seems to work. He receives a thousand fan letters a week, more than anyone else on the show, according to a Columbia publicist.
His family is a nest of acting talent, and Nichols is very proud of that. His wife, Lisa, to whom Nichols has been married three years (its his third marriage), is a fledgling actress who has appeared on DAYS and is currently doing plays in Los Angeles. His children, ten-year-old Vanessa and seven-year-old Aaron, are also actors. The producers [of DAYS] wanted Aaron because he looked so much like me, Nichols says, and the boy plays Patch as a child in flashback scenes.
Aarons very bright and he understands everything intellectually, Nichols says. Emotionally, hes never experienced anything that this kid, the young Steve Johnson, experienced, Steve says, referring to the child-abuse story line which show-cased his son. So Nichols gives Aaron pointers on performing. Kids want to make their face do something look sad, for example, he explains. I tell him to try to imagine his own life that way, and then let his heart control what his face does. Let his heart do the work.
Concerned about Vanessa being over-looked if Aaron got an acting role, Nichols told the producers, Aaron will do it if youll give my daughter a small part, because I dont want her to be left out. So she got a nice little part and she works every now and then. Vanessa has made several appearances as Kelly, an abused child, and Nichols feels she has deep dramatic instinct.
Im very proud of the work theyve both done on the show, he says, but its clear he doesnt want it going to their heads. Nichols notes that Aaron recently used some of the money he has earned from the show to buy himself a computer. If we had let him he would have bought one of those electric-powered cars that you see at F.A.O. Schwarz, Nichols says. We said it wasnt practical because hed grow out of it and he couldnt drive it when he was eighteen.
After two and a half years on DAYS, Steve is now starting to put out feelers for stage and movie roles. Creating opportunities for myself, he calls it, believing that attracting attention cant be done overnight. People in the industry dont take daytime actors too seriously. I dont have any illusions about that, he says.
As he finishes a cappuccino, Nichols adds, Some people believe acting classes make you a good actor, or you find that magic when you finally become a good actor, but I think its a lifelong process. Youve got this creative energy and you keep trying to develop it your whole lifetime. Hes also intrigued by Patchs development. The physicality of the character thats one advantage of being an ongoing character you turn the switch and the guy is on, he explains. Theres a way he walks and talks thats different from me.
But on appearance tours, fans enjoy seeing Patch live and in person. One request he always gets from fans is to call them Sweetness, the endearment Patch uses for Kayla Brady. Sweetness is a nickname he originally gave his daughter. I can motivate a lot of love behind that word, so thats why I like it for Kayla, he explains.
And his relationship with Mary Beth Evans, the actress who plays Kayla, is a warm and enjoyable one. Sometimes were a little too friendly even when were in scenes that are not so friendly. When theres a lot more tension happening, we have to watch ourselves on that, and get stuff created before
we go on the set. Sometimes Ill tell her I have to be alone for a while or shell do the same thing we have to get our own individual things together.
Evans agrees. Theres love there, and I think it shows. It seems kind of corny to say, be we connect, she says. I think that after my maternity leave, you could see it in our eyes.
Evanss recent pregnancy itself provided some backstage moments of fun as they filmed around her growing stomach. In the cabin scene, I was supposed to be naked, she recalls. Normally, I would wear a body stocking, a sort of nude swimsuit, but being pregnant, my body stocking more like a muumuu. Stephen was to walk in and stare at me as if I looked sexy, but instead I looked like Omar the Tentmaker, she laughs, adding that Steve managed to keep a straight face. Good thing. Before Mary Beth had her baby, she and Nichols pre-taped ten shows and to do one hundred pages of dialogue in one day, most of it heavy emotion. And suddenly sounding like Patch, Nichols says seriously, Thats kamikaze acting. Doing a soap, you do kamikaze acting. But Nichols has no plans to self-destruct or burn-out. He intends to live a full and healthy life with or without career pressures. Like Patch, he knows whats important.
David Forsyth Relives the Horror of Vietnam
As Told to Ellen Byron in His Own Words
David Forsyth (John Hudson, ANOTHER WORLD) spent four years in the military. From 1968-69, he served in Vietnam as a Navy medic attached to a marine unit. During his tour of duty, he won a medal for bravery for risking his life to aid a wounded corpsman. Forsyth is still haunted by what he swan d experienced during his year in Nam. Here is his painful and at times brutally explicit story.
I came from a military family. My mother was a navy nurse, my father was a colonel in the Marine Corps. I grew up around the military. It was part of my existence.
Around 1966 or 1967, I got out of high school and went to college, but after a couple of semesters, I realized I didnt know why I was there. Vietnam was really going strong, and I felt that supporting the government was the right thing to do, so I enlisted. I was in Japan for a year, came back to the United States to attend field medical school in California, then shipped out to Okinawa, where I received specialty training in counter-guerrilla warfare. Then I went to Vietnam.
I was attached to the First Marine Division. I stayed with them through Christmas, then got attached to Charlie Company, First Tanks. Then they moved the entire Marine regiment way south of Denang, where I spent the rest of my tour.
After two weeks in Vietnam, I realized the absurdity of the whole thing. It was just insane for us to be there. They wouldnt let us fight the war. Our government was trying to run a twofold policy. We were trying to be pals to these people, but we really didnt know who they were or what they wanted. We had restrictions on us. We couldnt even fire on the enemy unless we had approval. One night, my outfit was overrun three times. Being a corpsman, I had access to a radio and I listened to this guy call in to CMC bunker where command communications were, and say, Ive got activity outside my lines of fire. Request permission just to send up a flare. Permission was denied. The last communication from this fellow was, Major, this son of a bitch is three feet from my bunker. Im going to shoot him. And then the whole place exploded. The Vietnamese version of kamakazis had come in, loaded with explosives all over their bodies. We sat listening. There was nothing we could do.
I carried three guns. There were a lot of occasions where I could have and probably should have used them, but after two weeks, I made a decision in my heart that I would not kill anybody while I was there. I didnt become a conscientious objector. I still dont think I am. Its just that the circumstances there were
One night I was supposed to go out on rat patrol (which we actually called snake bites) where wed take three people, dig a hole, sit out all night in it and observe. Something happened I dont remember exactly what and someone said, Ill take your place. I said, Its OK, and he said, No, I want to go. I feel like getting out. He and the others were all killed. Not only were they killed, their bodies were mutilated. I was in a blind fury and rage. That night I filled two pages in my journal with the question, Why?
Then there was this little girl I used to visit. She was about eleven years old, and shed had both legs blown off. She was at a German-run hospital, neutral hospital, which would take anybody, North Vietnamese, Americans, civilians. I dont know why, but there was a kindred heart the first time I saw this little girl. She was very dear to me. Id go visit and just sit with her. I didnt speak Vietnamese and she didnt speak English, but we definitely communicated. If I had a child, it would be her. Well, they killed everybody in that hospital. I never understood that because hospital treated everyone
. But thats the insanity of it all.
I came back to the States on emergency leave. My father was having two major surgical procedures at the same time, and the Red Cross asked that I be sent home. I had less than thirty days to go in country so I knew I wasnt going back to Vietnam. I came straight out of the field, where I had been in the midst of an operation. I was a wreck. I had mud and blood all over my uniform. I went from Denang to Okinawa to America still in my jungle fatigues.
The flight stopped in Houston before it went on. The flight attendants were wonderful. They invited me up to first class and started giving me liquor. I was getting pretty blitzed and having a wonderful time. As we started to land in Houston, they opened up the curtains that separate first class and coach, and I heard this screaming from the back of the plane. I couldnt make out what the guy was saying until about the third time he said it. He was screaming, How many did you kill, you son of a bitch? Then I heard footsteps and the next thing I knew this guy had me around the neck and was punching me and trying to rip my head off my shoulders. I managed to get my seatbelt undone, and beat him up pretty badly. He was a big guy, but he was drunk. The engineer came out of the cockpit. He got there just in time because the buddy of the guy I was fighting came up and hit me from behind. The engineer hit him and we managed to subdue both of these guys.
When we landed, the plane had barely stopped rolling when there were FBI and FAA officials all over the place. They threw these guys off the plane, apologized, gave me another drink and we continued on. That was my welcome home.
For a long time after I got back, I had this almost apologetic attitude for having lived. I became a firefighter and paramedic in Boca Raton, Florida. As paramedics, we only participated in the worse fires. I was getting back into dangerous situations, reliving part of Vietnam, perhaps. But at the same time, I was doing something where you really help people. Its what I did best over there, and I have no qualms about saying that. I know I saved a lot of lives.
My experience in Vietnam has a lot to do with how I relate to people. If somebodys going to get close to me, my defense mechanisms go up. Over there, one second there was a person standing next to you and the next second there was a pile of mush. I was so confused about Vietnam and a lot of other things in my life that I really screwed up my marriage. My ex-wife and I are friends now. Weve sat down and talked about it, and thats made a big difference. Im going through a whole process of unlearning a lot of behaviour these days. Its been difficult for me.
I dont think I was even aware of the extent of the hostility, rage and anger that I harbored regarding Vietnam until about three years ago, when they had the ticker tape parade here in New York for Viet vets. Bob Woods, who was on ONE LIFE TO LIVE at the time, called me up and said, A bunch of us are going down to participate. I hadnt even known that he was a Nam vet. There were about five of us at the parade who worked in daytime television, either as actors, grips, or in makeup. Afterward, we stood around talking and it was the first time any of us had shared about it. The similarity of problems wed had in our lives was uncanny. It was only about twenty minutes of conversation, but that twenty minutes turned my attitude around. I knew that I had to get out and talk with people about it. I belong to the Veterans of the Vietnam War Association, and through them, Ive spoken to groups about Nam.
When John Whitesell approached me about playing John, he told me Id have a lot of input. In the beginning, I was encouraged because they were doing some wonderful things. They had about three weeks of interesting stuff to do about this guy coming home and after that it was like, OK, lets be really happy and funny now. Ive been extraordinarily disappointed about their unwillingness to explore the issue. I dont want to stand on a soapbox, but Im not the one who asked to do this. They presented me with it and said, This is what we want you do. We wish to do it honestly, and we wish to explore a lot of different avenues that havent been explored before. That just hasnt happened. Ive been told to lighten up. I said, Youre taking a character whos been away for twenty years, a man whos hurt, angry, and embittered by his experience, and you want him to be funny
? Its like asking a woman whos been raped is she would do a sorry about her rape experience and then telling her, No, thats not the way it was.
I think the interesting thing to do would be to use the soap opera genre in the manner in which it was intended. Have him fall n love with someone who makes him talk about his feelings and get them out. I think soap operas sell themselves short. They can
deal with issues honestly. Their audience wants it, and theyre definitely intelligent enough for it.
A few years ago when I was doing AS THE WORLD TURNS, there was a soap opera festival in Washington, D.C. I went over to see the Wall (the famous Vietnam memorial). I looked all over and couldnt recognize one name of anybody in my outfit. I had blanked them all out. I went bank this summer over the Fourth of July weekend with my girlfriend, and it was the best experience for me. When we got there, I said, I hope youll understand this, but please leave me alone for a while. I have to do this on my own. When she left, I completely fell apart at the wall. It was a really good release for me. It was getting in touch with saying good-bye from the heart. But I still dont remember their names.