Hello everyone,

does anybody know how long the mainspring usually lasts on this rifle, the same question about the piston seal. Also, what velocities does it show after some good break-in period, like 1000 pellets? Can I expect it to push 7.9gr pellets at 950 fps or is that too optimistic (I know that's what a new mainspring shows)? I don't have a chrony to check for myself. Thank you.

I would expect it to remain around 900fps for quite some time. Mine has well over 1,000 pellets through it now and still exceeds 1,000fps with a minor tune.
Seal life on the Turkish versions should be very good due to the tight tolerances between the piston and chamber walls. Provided there isn't major dieseling present, I would expect many years out of it.

Russ

many years sounds good, although I read that even best german springs often break after 10-12 000 or so shots. As for dieseling, I noticed I get some smoke in the barrel shooting light (7.9gr) pellets, but none of that with 10.5gr ones. By the way, what pellet do you use to get 1000fps out of it?

"wear items" and it is expected that one will have to replace them over time. Much of it will depend on the use of the gun, quality of the parts, and the internal tolerances.
The 7.9 grain pellets aren't light but average weight. Anything below that is considered to be a light pellet in .177 and can cause harm to a magnum springer due to piston slam. My rifle shoots CP lights (7.9 grn) at 1037 fps and Crow Mags (8.8 grn) at 973 fps.

Finding a replacement spring won't be very hard to do but the seal will have to be custom made or a modified version of something found in another gun.

Russ

ya in the 1000? i have not tryed any of those myself.

but I still need to do some distance testing past 25 yards with them before I come to any conclusions. Problem is, the CPs are doing the job so well that I'm not sure I really need to hunt with the Crow Mags. I imagine they would put one heck of a hurtin on a squirrel though.

Russ

But on my Brazilian one, I would say that I am either close to or over 10K shots, and it will shoot RWS Super-H-Points (7.4Gr) at 870.55 FPS with the stock spring and seal.  It will also shoot and RWS Superdome (8.3Gr) at 807.95.  These two pellets are the ones I use for this rifle (as well as the RWS that I have), by the way, as they produce the best results in this gun.  This means that at close to 10K shots, the rifle is still producing a little over 12 Ft. Lbs. of force.

As for other pellets, the riffle will put out the following nombers (on average, 20 shots were used of each pellet type): RWS Superpoints (8.3Gr) 776.93 FPS, Beeman Kodiak Match (10.6Gr) 684.05 FPS, Beeman FTS (8.6Gr) 794.83 FPS, Beeman Silver Ace (8.12Gr) 766.38, and Beeman Crow Mags (8.8Gr) 774.24.  The FTS and Crow Mags I use mostly for my Gamo Shadow 1000, which seems to prefer these pellets instead; the rest I have left over from testing to see which pellets worked best with each gun.  I should mention that the Brazilian model and the Turkish models are completely different guns, though, so if you have the Turkish gun, this should not be taken as a reference.

By the way, I recently opened up the rifle for a lubing tune, and the seal was perfectly fine; no signs of damage whatsoever, so I dont think you need to worry much about that.  If I do neet to replace the spring, I think I will give the Maccari Tarantula a shot, as my main spring looked very similar to the Tarantula spring I bought for the Gamo Shadow (I replaced the spring and seal on that gun).

Felipe

have the turkish synthetic stock daisy 1000.
And would like to try
mcarri(sp.) spring and lubes when i decide to tune it some more.


thanks
mike-brakeless

I am considering buing an airgun gun to practice shooting so that I can be more accurate with my deer hunting rifle. Is the Winchester 1000sx reasonably accurate and reliable for this purpose, or would recommend another airgun? I do not need match rifle accuracy, just a reliable and reasonably accurate gun. I will be using a scope. I like the price on the Winchester but wonder if I would be sacrificing quality.

Pro:
appropriate size (as long as a Lee Enfield rifle), good power (approx. 1,000 fps.), good accuracy (sub 1" groups at 30yds.), heavy recoil

Con:
light weight (approx. 6 lbs), heavy trigger, springer recoil may require a learning curve

While the trigger can be tuned to a lower weight, will it offer an acceptable pull compared to your hunting rifle? Although the recoil is heavy, it is not like that of a firearm. The recoil of a springer occurs before the pellet exits the barrel so hold sensitivity will be different from that of a firearm. Not sure what the weight of your hunting rifle is but consider that the weight of this guns is between 6 and 7 pounds.

It is a good gun and I certainly enjoy mine but the only one who can determine if it is best for you is you.

Russ

Trigger is a little too hard without any mods. It can give a lot of practise in that this rifle makes you hold it steady while squeezing that trigger, and focus on the target. This is surely a useful skill, as you should be able to achieve better accuracy from lighter trigger guns afterwards.

hi, not russ, but have tried the bee crowmags at ten yards in my 1000. they were very accurate, also the crossman premium hollowpoints, and pointed were very good. the flat wad cutters work well too. john

is another concern. I haven't disassembled 1000s yet, but have read that the metal of the sear and other parts in the trigger unit is not of the best quality, and happens to break from time to time. Any ideas or estimates? Can it go through 10000 pellets at least? Any other durability issues you guys noticed?

Not sure if you are talking about the Turkish guns or not but I can tell you that the Turkish sears seem plenty durable to me. The are made of 3 pieces of steel sandwiched together which may seem cheap but is actually quite strong. Similar to laminated beams and such. The weak link that I see is the plastic trigger blade, especially if the trigger pull isn't reduced. With the heavy pull of the stock trigger group, the pivot area of the plastic blade is likely to wear and elongate over time. With the pull reduced, there is less stress in this area.

Just my .02
Russ

yeah I meant those 3 pieces of metal put together, and yes I meant the Turkish variety. So how many pellets have you shot from your 1000x by now?

I am guessing around 1,500 +/- through mine so far but my trigger isn't stock so I'm not sure that it is a good example.

Russ

getting smoother all the time it seems.