Good shot! Largest I've gotten was a rather big raccoon but man that is impressive!
I have to ask where you got the front sling swivel. I am sure many would be interested in knowing what worked for you.
Russ S.
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Uncle Mike's #1391-2. Walmart sells them for $12.47. They are slightly too large, but if you place one to two layers of duct tape where you intend to attach them, it works fine.
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What ammo were you using? You say you got him 'through' the ears. Do you mean between the ears....or actually in the ear? I didnt think the gun would take down something that large. How quickly did it bring him down? (In other words, do you think it was a fluke or we can really expect to reproduce your results.)
I wonder what effect our gun would have on deer? I am not much of a hunter, but thought it might be fun to go in the woods with my gun and just piss a deer off with a pellet to the butt! :) And then I would be running like hell!
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The shot was into the right ear, but at 30m a shot into the head breaks a fox's skull. This was a clean kill and is reproducible. When I hunt, I want to be sure that the animal is dead before it realizes that something is seriously wrong.
Abusing animals has nothing to do with fun, hunting or sportsmanship. Your are not only much of a hunter, you aren't a hunter at all, just plain mean.
If you think about shooting a deer into the butt, I recommend first shooting yourself into your toes to get an idea of the effect of your air rifle. You have ten tries! If you are too cowardly, sell your air rifle.
Scharfschuetze.
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Please contact me if you feel this editing was not in the best interest of the forum.
Russ S.
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Do you see the smiley at the end of the sentence??? It means I am KIDDING. Is this your first day on the internet? How rude. Way to ruin a good thread.
And dont write back with, "even joking is wrong." Its a piss-poor defense.
I dont shoot animals PERIOD. So much for showing interest in your post.
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Thank you for standing up to your mistake. Many people wouldnt.
I just finished watching some youtube videos of idiot kids shooting birds for no reason. I also saw some adults culling ducks from a golf course. If they eat the ducks, no problem. But why not just chase them into the lake? It just makes me feel a little sick. Thats why I cant hunt. I'm too weak. But I dont mind eating the meat. ;) So I guess I'm a hyppocrit. (I know that's spelled wrong)
Do you know if our gun is the same as the Hatsan Model 70? It sure looks the same. I know ours were made by Hatsan. Not sure of the model. I see that Hatsan has some really powerful springers. The models 125 and 135 look pretty big too.
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it is all about shot placement, not about power :-)
I wasn't sure if the pellet would take down the fox with a lung or heart shot (I bet it wouldn't in case a bone is in it's way), so I waited until the fox came close enough and turned it's head 90 degrees away from me. The brain stem is located between the ears towards the spine and no creature can live without. This is not true for most other parts of the brain, but the brain stem is a part of the brain even "living dinosaurs" like crocodiles have in common with mamals. The fox instantly lost orientation and started to make somersaults to escape by reflex. I finished him off with another shot into the brain stem: Into the forehead where the virtual lines from the ears to the eyes cross. The 1000x delivers plenty of power to break through the skull of a fox.
An even stronger air rifle then the 1000X doesn't make sense in my opinion. With a 1000fps rifle you are able to find a pellet that is heavy enough to stay subsonic. Pellets have the same problems beyond the sonic barrier as planes: Loss of energy and stability. All this high-power hype is nothing but marketing for those who naively believe in "knock-down-power".
If you want to kill fast and humanely, you have to hit the brain stem, the spine in the neck (best above the 6th vertebra) or destroy the parasympathetic nervous system (leaves the spine in the neck and runs close to the spine through the body cavity, roughly said). This is why motorcycle race pilots wear helmets and spine protectors. Anything else can be tinkered by a doc.
Most hunters shoot at the "boiler room" (heart & lungs) because they are larger targets, don't destroy the trophy buck's rack and are still a clean kill, but that does not kill immediately. I don't prefer this, because a bad hit into the boiler room can result in a gut shot, whereas a "bad hit" into the head doesn't exist (assumed the caliber is appropriate for the game): it's whether a clear miss or a clean kill without any meat damage.
Nature thought about everything, she even endowed those little furry pests with little aiming marks: The eyes and the ears. Aim for them if you want to keep it safe.
Those who really have to make every shot count regardless of costs use subsonic rounds (Olympic teams in sooting sports) except in biathlon, where high power rounds are slightly more accurate in freezing temperatures (more friction in internal ballistics needs more energy).
If you go beyond the sonic border, you have to make a big step to compensate the disadvantages. I think working on higher accuracy is more satisfying for the shot and more ethical hunting.
Regards,
Scharfschuetze
PS: Only very few aren't too weak to admit they are weak.
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