Hello again! It's 11:30 here in Perth now and about an hour and a half ago I forwarded a message expressing how I became a Gary convert(well I hate the word fan) and I think I didn't follow correct proceedures to have it screened. Damn! Giso, if you scrubbed it for any reason I won't ask why because I have some serious rejection issues(lol). On a slightly different note, I have been checking out past messages. Most are very positive but i have noticed that some individuals take it upon themslves to critisize Gary's ex-wife Donya. I understand that details of their unfortunate split are known, but these are facts. Well, that's debatable I suppose. You know the media. I sure would hate it if the whole world was reading about my personal life. Yes, it's certain that Gary and Donya have split, but there are always two sides to a story. I'm not saying that maybe donya is the Goodie and gary is the baddie, but relationships are such complicated things, as I'm sure we all know. He-said, She-said, You know the story. None the less, Donya is the mother of two of his sons and she should be respected for that alone. As we all know, Gary has benn granted custody of the two boys. Obviously the Judge found him to be the more competent parent at this time, and I don't doubt rightly so. As a mother myself, I would be ripped to the core if something like this happened to me for any reason. I love my children to pieces as does any mother, and Donya would be no exception. I understand that everyone here admires, adores lusts after whatever, Gary, so naturally we would be inclined to be protective towards him. But stick to the subject- gary Oldman the actor, not Gary Oldman his personal life. And spare a thought for their sons. I'm certain they would be heartbroken to know of the things that have been said and written about their beloved mother. And don't forget, Gary loved Donya once(and perhaps he still does), and chose to marry her. So criticising donya is like mocking Gary's choices in his love life, and that is definately nobody's business.
i'm sorry to say that suzie but it's not our business it's gary's private life and i think that he is tired about this scandal! so to respect him and the other protagonists of this story we must stay respectful and since we don't know the exact truth it's better to shut our mouth about that
PLEASE, DON'T LET THIS TOPIC GET OUT OF HAND. SHOW RESPECT TO OTHER FORUM MEMBERS,
THANKS,
GISO-
This message has been edited by giso from IP address 82.72.65.246 on Nov 21, 2003 9:19 PM
This is al l pretty much water under the bridge, so why
November 21 2003, 10:49 PM
dont we all just let it go? We have all moved on. A scab cant heal if ya keep picking at it, can it? And it makes a rather ugly scar.
We can all agree to disagree, next topic, please.
I am so impressed with the buzz from POA, especially reguarding Gary's performance. As I have stated elsewhere, he really is the actors actor. When the top people in your field have such respect for your work, you know that you are at the top of your game.
I prefer his more restrained performances, but on occation , his over the top style is appropriate, and he always goes just as far as necessary. He was always very good, but now he is excellence personified in the acting craft.
That's all he OWES us. As for the rest, it must be extremely hard to be that famous. I had the distinct displeasure of having to sign a few hundred letters for a ficticious Exec VP in our company and it was the most odious, onorus thing I have ever had to do.
I cannot imagine having to do that on a regular basis. I would lose my mind ( and my hands, I have arthritis!). All I know is that stars who take the time to personally sign autographs should be sainted, because it is not in the least bit fun after a very short while! As I have said before, dont think I ever want to be famous, just tres rich!!!!
That was made a little harder, when i finally realized today that I have lost the original story for my first computer animated film. I may possibly be writing next from the local insane asylum, for real. I am resisting the overwhelming urge to bang my head rpeatedly on the door jam, aaahhhh! Sure , I can rewrite it, it may even be better, but, it was the original, if ya know what I mean!!!Heavy sigh.
Oh, well c'set la vie!
Hey D,
what if someone I know told a fabulous story, but refuses to write it down? Yes, I have written two short stories based on his characters and stories, which i believe are very publishable. He has refused me permission to use them, but they are not under any type of copy right. He is just so lazy and contrary a real mind f---er, if you know what i mean. These stories deserve to be told. So, I have decided to publish them, fully acknowleging their origin and giving him 50% of the proceeds. I doubt he will sue me, frankly, he needs the money. As i said , he's pretty lazy!! I am his friend and do not want to take advantage of him, but he is driving me bugshit with his refusal to write the freaking story himself! Any whose, if he does sue,What can he get? His best friend says I should just go for it. My best friend says to just get him to sign a release for his 50 % of the royalties, and being poor , he'll prob go for it. What do ya think?
Getting to be certifiable myself!
Kathy
I don't know if you were addressing anyone in particular in the last part of your post, but I thought I'd give you umy two cents worht. If your friend hasn't written down his idea in a story or something like that, it's free game. (You can't copyright an idea.) It could only potentially get sticky if he has actually written it down and gotten the "poor man's copyright" (mailed it to himself and not opened it). But as far as you know and are aware of, all he has done is told you the story.
You show a remarkable sense of ethics to share royalties. You're the one who sounds like you're doing most of the work, though. If you ask him (just out of a sense of fair play because legally you don't have to), he would probably be thrilled with just a mention. You could say a public thanks or credit him with the inspiration. Sharing the royalties is admirable, but not necessary. You could probably take him to dinner as a show of gratitude. If he still insists on being a jerk, you've done everything you could. (And much more than you needed to.)
What a mess. You've got to wonder why someone would go through the work of creating a story but not writing it down and then getting difficult when someone else is inspired enough to do something with it. Great stories need to be told. The world could always use more great art.
Good luck whatever you decide. It's a difficult choice. At the very least, your friend should be flattered his story inspired a new creation - and he should definitely appreciate the fact that he has a friend concerned with ethical responsibillity who has a high set of standards.
Let's say I write to someone on this forum behind the scenes and I tell that person what I'm writing about.
Since I have no real idea WHO this person is, as identities with this person are strictly locked in a vaulot in the amber room, how can I know if he/she is worthy or my trust?
I have given this person my social security number recently due to trust issues. I totally trust this person on an intuitive level. I have been a horrible judge of character in the past and the past no longer exists. I'm putting my neck out by trusting this new "friend", and this new one knows my story ideas.
Who's to say that he won't take my ideas and run with them, then invite me to dinner and break the news to me that he just produced it?
This post, Dramasylum, has brought new light to my eyes and it seems I was better off before imagining I had a friend in the world at all.