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New Routemaster

May 8 2008 at 3:51 PM
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On BBC News this morning they featured a story about the Capoco Routemaster. Apparently Capoco have now said that it is possible to deliver the new vehicle for the Mayor's budget of about 200k each.
There is a good link to their site below which gives a 3D all round image and plan of it.
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http://www.capoco.co.uk/capoco-routemaster-study.html

 
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Re: New Routemaster

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May 8 2008, 7:49 PM 

My personal preference for a powersource for the new "Routemaster" would be for a hybrid that made use of the large roof area by covering it with solar panels to help charge the batteries. Our original plan for RML2315 featured solar panels on the roof for charging batteries but only for powering ancillary items. It may yet happen if we find a high speed diff.......

 
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Looks like a Routemaster

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May 8 2008, 11:12 PM 

HI All

Just had a look at the Capoco site. Apart from the weird wrap around windshield and the 'where is the tranmission?' question it looks pretty darned good. Wheelchair accessible, too. Just shows the complete lack of vision by the previous administration.

Cheers!

J



    
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May 8 2008, 11:18 PM 

Still think it should retain the traditional half-cab design John.

 
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New Routemaster

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May 9 2008, 9:21 AM 

I hope it's a bit better proportioned, but all the basic values are there. And a return to proper destination displays, what passes at the moment is utterly useless.
Let's not forget that the RML could have been made wheelchair accessible as well by not using the platform area. With a modular device fitting into a window bay. This would have reduced the lower saloon capacity by 2 seats.

This was rejected by the Mayoral funded Disability activist group that Ken and Co paid so much creedence to and whom were the driving that forced RMs out.
The grounds were that another entrance for disabled was...wait for it...discriminatory and therefore in breach of the DDA.

I suspect that unless they get their funding cut and other more rational disabled get their views aired for a change, we'll see this get scuppered too.

In Ken's early years as Mayor, plans for a proper RM type replacement were looked into seriously and hopefully this can now be proceeded with.

As Mr Hendy is staying, it looks as though either a large serving of Humble pie is on the menu or a huge push to dissuade Boris is on the cards.

 
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Half Cab

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May 9 2008, 10:10 AM 

Hi Graham

Yup, half cab is best. Looking at the artist's impression, unless the engine is installed on modular slide out rails (try getting that to deal with the torque), how would the bonnet be raised to perform basic service work?

If the windshield were removable for such eventualities, it would take four strong folk to lift it out. Then, where would it be stored? Perhaps it could swing upwards in some way?

I am sure the designers have anticipated this. Perhaps the windshield is, in fact, in more then one piece or perhaps the reciprocating power delivery module (engine) is accessible from inside the lower saloon. And for the more major work, the simplest solution may be to lift the front of the bus and roll the engine/front axle assembly (boat) out from underneath. In which case, the platform will need to be higher. As we who own/drive RMs know, the platform height in itself is a stroke of genius because it is low enough to be comfortable for most people but high enough to allow the bus to traverse pretty uneven ground without damage.

Either way, if they could build a classic long-lasting vehicle in the 1950's it clearly is possible now - if the parties involved are willing.

One other observation, the platform grab rails look either absent or not in the pattern of the existing RM. Having looked at piccies of platform buses from before/during/post WWII the pattern of these and their location seems to be well established and, presumably, for some very good reasons. I am thinking, in particular, of the distinctive shape of the grab rails on the lhs of the platform (on boarding), the monkey pole and the rhs grab rail.

Cheers!

J






 
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May 9 2008, 10:46 AM 

There was a small clip of an interview with PH in which he replied to a question something like '' What the Mayor tells us to do , we do''.I can't remember the exact phrasing of the question but it was something to do with support for the new Routemaster. It came accross as someone who clearly did not agree with the new policy but had been told to implement his new boss's wishes or leave.
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Its a Routemaster

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May 9 2008, 12:53 PM 

Hi All

Take a look at this video found on YT.



I think the best way to give Londoners what they want is to give them the real thing. Its hard to improve on perfection. As I have stated elsewhere 2060 (I don't know which bus is featured in the video) was a delight to ride on last Sunday and was expertly driven by a lady bus driver.

Cheers!

J


 
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