I just picked up a real nice Daisy 777 target pistol at the local flea market. It's in real nice shape except the handle is broken from the bolt and the elevation adjustment wheel (?) is missing from the rear sight.
Other than that it pumps and shoots great. Doesn't seem to have had much use.
It's a big pistol and heavy too. looks to be a good shooter.
Does anyone know a place to get these parts?
This message has been edited by 55Rick on Jul 19, 2008 9:32 AM
Through their website and they'll send you a PDF and price sheet. Parts are really reasonable.
Here's the contact page: http://www.daisy.com/serviceform.html
Nick,
From ruralburbian Philomath.
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com
It's a pain. But each time I've needed an exploded drawing I just contacted them through the page and they emailed it to me in a day. You have to call or mail a check to buy the parts though. Some stuff is out of stock, especially on discontinued guns. I found they had changed the valve seal on the 717 at some point too, which meant a little remachining...
Nick,
From ruralburbian Philomath.
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com
Let me know if they have replacement rear sights if you can?
July 14 2008, 1:56 PM
I'm wondering if they have any of the metal rear sights left and would love to try retrofitting to one of my 717's (I have 2 717's and a 722)
There is a good guide to stripping the 747 on the net: http://www.pilkguns.com/tenp/spd747.htm
Pay attention to the last picture as it's the most important one when replacing the bolt.
I ordered two bolts since they only cost a dollar.
They didn't have the elevator for the rear sight.
I asked if they had a set of the same grips in left hand and they did for $30 so I ordered them also. I like to shoot left and right handed and I love these grips, a perfect fit for my hand.
I am thinking about refinishing the black paint. Any thoughts on that? Good or bad thing to do for the value? I don't like paint wear and small chips and want it to look good. Anyone know what they used on it? Lacquer?
Does anyone make a brass bolt for these pistols?
Sorry I didn't see your post asking me to ask about a rear sight. She did say parts are very limited for the 777. Parts that fit the 717 and 747 are in stock though.
And thanks for the additional info, pictures and links. It will all come in handy.
If you give me the needed thickness, thread size and diameter. Would be pretty easy to whip one up. Let me know. I don't think you should have to suffer with that hex nut on it.
They still have wood grips though? Hmm...$30 is a pretty good deal.
I touched up the paint on mine with a paint pen from the hardware store, but the 777 is worth a lot more than the 717, so it's really your call...
I don't think anyone makes replacement bolts for it. A somewhat complex part to duplicate, although I bet Grant could whip one up!
Nick,
From ruralburbian Philomath.
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com
Pretty Simple, but the Plastic Bolt would be No 5 Minute Job to Make. There is Bound to be Dozens lying around in Peoples Boxes of Bits, if One can just be located. The Bolt and Handle is One piece.
Nick if you still wish to make that elevator for me please do and let me know what I owe you, I sure would appeciate it. The brass nut is hopefully a temp fix and it looks like hell to say the least.
Looks like an interesting project to blog about.
I'm glad Grant confirms my understanding of the difficulty in making a bolt! But I'll look at one of mine and see if a lightbulb goes off in my head.
Nick,
From ruralburbian Philomath.
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com
Rick, Grant says the thread size is #6-40 tpi, but I doubt that you found a 40 tpi brass nut? Could you double check the thread size on your elevation screw, just in case there are production differences (as there are with the valve seals)?
Or did you force the screw through the nut reforming the threads?
Nick,
From ruralburbian Philomath.
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com
For some reason I thought 6-48 was the standard fine thread (and I have a #6-48 tap for some reason), but #6-40 is the standard fine, and I do have a tap...so it should be quick to make.
Nick,
From ruralburbian Philomath.
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com
The Wheel is steel. The Grooves are just Shallow, you could do them with a triangular file. A spring loaded plunger locates in them as its turned and and the spring is also the One for the elevation tension. I checked the thread with a Brand New screw from my Brownells screw kit. The Knurl round the edge of the wheel is a Fine straight Knurl. The little radiused location part is 2mm wide with a 1mm radius, but the grooves around the wheel are less, to allow the plunger to enter and exit the groove without Binding. The groove is just wide/deep enough to locate the plunger in each position of setting.
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Regards Grant.
This message has been edited by Grantthekiwi on Jul 15, 2008 4:37 PM
Glad to see it All came together So Well for You. You put a lot of Work into the Rebuild. I cant Offer any Explanation about the Difference in Grip Shape. Perhaps Daisy changed the Style or Actually had a choice of 2 Styles at the Time? Perhaps Somebody else will be able to Solve the Question.
Email me your address and I'll mail it out.
You'll have to forgive the obvious mistake...one of the grooves is off about 7 degrees because I'm still not used to the graduations on the Sherline rotary table. but let's see if it fits and works...
Nick,
From ruralburbian Philomath.
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com
This message has been edited by cartertools on Jul 15, 2008 5:37 PM
Nick, I'll email you as soon as I get off of here.
This is what makes this forum and it's members the best. I had no idea how to get one of these elevator nuts for my pistol since Daisy no longer stocks them. I hoped the brass nut was a temporary fix but sort of figured that the chance of finding one was slim.
I'm all set. Grips sanded, stained and finished yesterday and bolt and seals ordered from Daisy, and a set of left hand grips too. Today I disassembled the pistol, sanded out the nicks and bare spots and repainted it with flat black lacquer. Then went over every part. It will be a new pistol by the end of the week! Or early next week.
I appreciate the help here so much, words can't express my gratitude.
I wouldnt worry about the Grooves, they cant be seen when the Wheel is Fitted. They are there just to hold the Adjustment at that setting. Just needs a Cold Blue and Nobody will ever know its a replacement.
Just a few pics of the 777 all repainted. I also disassembled the trigger parts and went over everything, gave it some lube. Now I just need that new bolt from Daisy, hopefully this week.
And the elevator that Nick made should show up at the same time. (Thanks Nick & Grant) This pistol was broken and setting on a flea market table just three days ago.
Actually I did shoot it a little. A bit hard with no bolt handle. But it shot great, very consistant. I shot at 10 yards with the pistol on a bench to see what it could do and I was impressed. A peep sight or a scope would sure help my 53 year old eyes though.
I hope to have it back together soon, if Daisy is quick to ship out parts that is. I'll post pics of the pistol and targets.
I found this article you may be interested in. Sorry I can't remember the author or where I got it from. Stand corrected, it appears to have be from Pilkgun.
Think about it, I made the part from drawings made halfway around the world, and then shipped them across the USA. All in what, 4 days? You have to love the internet.
Nick,
From ruralburbian Philomath.
anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com
Yes, Nick that is amazing. I am very happy with this whole project.
Just five days ago this pistol was lonely and broken on a flea market table. Now thanks to some really great people I have an 'almost' new 777. This has really brightened my outlook for my fellow man. It's a real good feeling to know that there are good people in this world.
For those new to this thread, Grant and Nick just did their thing and teamed up to make the one part that I needed and wasn't available from Daisy with a very slim chance that I would ever find one. Two really good guys!
Well I reassembled the pistol and even had a chance to shoot it a little. I have to say I am very happy with it. Good trigger, pistol is heavy enough for a steady hold, love the grips too. A joy to shoot.
I cleaned the barrel when I had it apart so I expect it to settle in after I shoot it more. And I replaced the crosshairs in a vintage Mossberg scope right before I shot so my old eyes were getting tired before I started shooting and it was getting dark. I hope to do better tomorrow in daylight.
Here's the finished 777
Target is 32 feet. I couldn't see well enough with the dark background and black tagets so I stuck a few on a white box.
Not too bad. I was sort of cheating, I was holding the butt of the grips on the table but no resting of the barrel. I shoot both LH and RH but I shoot better LH. I still need to finish the LH grips that I got from Daisy today. They have more in stock at $30 which is good deal.
I have about 20 other pellets to try. I'm happy with it for the first shoot.
Thanks again for the all the help everyone.
This message has been edited by 55Rick on Jul 18, 2008 9:53 PM This message has been edited by 55Rick on Jul 18, 2008 9:49 PM
That appears to be a very consistent and smooth finish (absolutely beautiful). Might I ask what you used and how you applied it? I have a couple pistols I've been wanting to refinish and this project caught my eye. Thanks
I was digging around my scopes, mounts and rings and found everything I need to mount a scope on the 777.
I found a set of Crosman mounts that attach to the barrel, they seem to work just fine on this pistol since there is no recoil at all. I wouldn't trust them on a springer.
And I have a couple of Bushnell (made in Japan) Phantom pistol scopes. This one is the 2.5X "Magnum Pistol" scope so I think it will do alright on this pistol. I like the clean look of the Phantom scopes, no rings.
I had just enough time to mount the scope and get it zeroed at 32 feet, it was getting dark and rain was moving in so I shot fast. Much better, these targets are great for sighting in but terrible to see your groups. I'll shoot some regular targets tomorrow in the daylight. The scope really helps, I'm 53 and do not wear glasses...but maybe I should. The 2.5 power makes a big difference over the fat open sights on this pistol. It does look a bit funky mounted forward like it is but it's hard enough to load a pellet in this gun without a scope in the way, but it works.
The bad part is, if I don't like the scope later and remove it I'll be repainting a few parts again since it had to screw up the paint being clamped to the barrel.
How could you not like this site,I visit often and always feel like i'm entering a special place thanks to Dave and all the great guy's that frequent this forum.
Sometimes silence is golden,sometimes it's not.
This message has been edited by oldwizzer on Jul 22, 2008 10:34 PM
I used Min-wax Red Oak stain. Then Deft spray lacquer Sanding Sealer. Great stuff for filling the grain in the wood. Spray it on, wait an hour and sand the high parts off with a 3M scuff pad. But be careful that you do not go through and remove any of the stain, especially on the edges. I spray on a few heavy coats to make sure that I don't and sand it lightly, all you want to do is remove the highs while leaving the low spots filled. I do this until I am happy with it. On these I didn't completely fill the grain since I wanted it just a little rough so it's not slippery.
Then for a top finish I used Deft satin finish spray lacquer. On the right hand grips I sprayed a wet coat for the last one and they have more shine. The left hand grips I misted the last coat to give them a more dull look.
Deft products are available at Lowe's and many other places. It's fast and durable.
...Thank You for the honor of having my 777 picture at the top of the page.
It is funny that I usually take my time when taking photos of my guns. Proper set-up, lighting and use of a tripod. The picture at the top was a super quickie. I had just finished shooting those sight in groups with the scope. It was getting dark, a rain storm was moving in and I just layed down the target, sat the pistol there and snapped a photo and ran into the house as it started to rain.
I did plan on shooting regular targets to better see the groups. Those hi-vis targets are great for sighting in but don't show groups very well.
Rick. All your pics were very good, and even better was the finished project. Great job.
Anyone else have a project like Rick's, feel free to post your progress.
Re: Hi Rick. Where did you get the scope mounts and are they still available? thx nt
July 24 2008, 8:16 PM
I think they came with a Crosman 2250. That's the two parts in the picture that clamp to the barrel. The mount that connects the two is the Phantom scope mount, it came with the scope.
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