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3 New German Finds.

September 24 2008 at 5:53 AM

Grant  (Premier Login Grantthekiwi)

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EMGE. 177 cal.
BURGO. 177 cal.
ZENIT. 177 cal.

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The EMGE.

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The BURGO.

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The ZENIT.

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Grant, N.Z.

 
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DAN
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wow! sweet!

September 24 2008, 8:37 AM 

How do you find these treasures? you must have a bunch-o-guns. Thanks for sharing.
Dan O

 
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Bob in WV
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Nice finds.

September 24 2008, 8:39 AM 

I love the rear flip up sight on that Zenit. Must have been for short range and long range shooting. Are all those pre WW II guns?

Bob in WV

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Frakor
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Never seen a " Zenit " stamped Relum before.

September 24 2008, 9:24 AM 

You can't overlook the bottom one being a Relum/Telly/Grothaus/FEG.
Bur it is the first one with the flip up rear sight and the " Zenit " brand on it,I have seen.

All in all,those guns make a lovely addition to your collection.

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Frank

 
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Grant
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Regards The ZENIT.

September 24 2008, 5:12 PM 

I must admit that it has that Eastern Block look to it, but according to Smiths Book the ZENIT name was associated with a German Firm with what appears to be close associations with EMGE and Falke. Relum is not actually a Make of Airgun but a British Importer if the Advert below is to be believed?

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I presume that ZENIT "by name" was one of the German Companies that fell into Russian hands after WWII?


Regards Grant, N.Z.


    
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Frakor
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Zenit is the name of a air pistol,made by EM-GE.

September 25 2008, 3:28 AM 


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The Hungarian factory called FEG,made air guns for allmost everybody.
For England they put "Relum"on it,for Europe they put "Telly" on it and just for the Netherlands it was called "Grothaus".

Like I said before,this is the first rifle I see with the name "Zenit"on it.


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Grant
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Hi Frank.

September 25 2008, 3:51 AM 

These are the only other EMGE's I have so the Rifle was a Surprise to Me as well. I was hoping that You had One and could tell Me a bit about it. I was surprised when You said it was the First You had come across. I have another Odd One here that came from the same Guy as the EMGE and ZENIT. Im just doing a little tidy up on it, then i will give you a look at it.

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Regards Grant, N.Z.

 
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Frakor
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Another EM-GE rifle.

September 25 2008, 9:26 AM 

This is a model 2 made before WW2 marked DRGM (Deutches Reichs Gebrauchs Muster).

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Grant
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Now Thats A Nice One Frank.

September 25 2008, 2:40 PM 

My EMGE hasnt got the DRGM Stamp at the rear of the chamber. Would that make My one a Post War Model?. Do you have any idea on what Year my EMGE would be? as im interested in knowing.

Thanks Grant, N.Z.

 
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Frakor
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Thanks,Grant .............

September 25 2008, 4:21 PM 

Your gun is made post WW2 (I think),but isn't there a date stamp on the butt ??

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Grant
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Date Stamp.

September 26 2008, 4:11 AM 

The Butt of the rifle is not badly knocked around Frank, but just enough to make the Date unreadable, Lol.

Grant.


 
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Topi
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Em-Ge

October 1 2008, 1:44 AM 

Hi Grant,

I can't be sure but I'd say the Em-Ge is a pre-war one. That's because it's marked as "Germany" instead of "Western Germany" as one of the other ones.

Anyway, it seems to be first sold in Sweden, if we can believe the badge "Rud. Unne, Sportaffär, Christianstad". Sportaffär is Swedish for Sports shop. The name of the town, located in Scania in the south of Sweden, is now spelled "Kristianstad", though. The currently dated spelling on the badge actually also points to a relatively early date of manufacture and sale.

Cheers,

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Grant
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Thanks Topi.

October 1 2008, 5:37 AM 

That Badge on the Butt is a Nice little Extra, so im glad to hear Your info about it. I hope it is Pre-War Model but it doesnt have the DRGM stamped on it like Franks example, so i cant make any judgement on it myself.

Regards Grant, N.Z.

 
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trevor
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ingenious overlever pistol

September 25 2008, 7:45 AM 

That is a lovely repeater Frank! I was having a look at Dennis Hiller's 3rd edition, AIR PISTOLS book.On page 62 a brochure is reproduced and it contains an exploded view of the Millard Diana Mk IV pistol,(a Zenit copy).Close examination of this wee diagram shows the Diana has been drawn with a magazine-like your Zenit.I wonder if Milbro ever made their Model IV pistol with a mag?Trev

 
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Gaines Blackwell
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Wow, Trev, what a brace of beauties.

September 24 2008, 9:43 AM 

That is a handome trio and nice sampling of a whole family of smaller German springers that were extremy popular. we tend to think of the Diana 27 but there were many of these, the Wageria (sp) and Krico's come to mind as well. Burgo marketed some as well. All were nicely made and finished. they would make a great collecting area.

I have really been impressed with the quality of photography here, You, Mike and Frank have have really made my day. I cannot focus out of my right eye so bought a new complicated camera to compensate but it is no easy thing to learn. As soon as I master it I will start posting..

Gaines

 
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Grant
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Trev ??

September 24 2008, 12:26 PM 

Hell Gaines, I'm far better looking than Trev, Lol.

Grant, N.Z.


 
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Gaines Blackwell
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Well, all Kiwis look the same to us !!LOL. Dave said you were the same person !!

September 24 2008, 1:26 PM 

Sorry, was thinking airguns . I guess the money I sent to Trev for the guns has been consumed as beer....GB

 
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ejwills
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Nice Find.

September 24 2008, 12:37 PM 

Grant, some of you guy's seem to have cornered the market on finding all the beauties.Nice! real nice.
Ejwills.

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Jim in PGH
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Frank beat me to it

September 24 2008, 1:25 PM 

I would have sworn the bottom gun was a Hungarian, based on the rounded fork tips, and more convincingly, the concetric stock screw/trigger adjustment. I've never seen that detail on anything but an FEG (Relum.)

Lovely wood on that Burgo!

I think we're all Bozos on this bus.

 
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Martin Orro
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Nice selection

September 24 2008, 3:57 PM 

Greetings Grant,

I've never seen a tangential sight (on the EMGE) on an airgun let alone a rifle. Are these common? I'd like to know on which guns they were available.

Thanx, Martin

 
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