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Nice Benjamin 312, .22 '1954'

November 14 2012 at 4:41 PM

  (Login AndrewR7)

I recently bought this very nice Benji 312, has original receipt taped to the box with the date, fed the stock, oiled all pivot points, metal etc and she's as close to new as possible, surprisingly small gun but has a very solid feel and a nice grain to the walnut.
Andrew

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Very Nice

November 14 2012, 5:13 PM 

January of '54. Perhaps someone spent their Christmas gift money on it?

Wish I could buy as nice a gun brand new for $20 today!

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(Login oldwizzer)

Real nice!

November 14 2012, 6:03 PM 

You have yourself a real winner.

Ejwills.

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Bill S.
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Turned down, one piece bolt handle

November 14 2012, 7:42 PM 

That gun has to be one of the first years for the turn down, one piece bolt handle. I'm not 100% sure of when they changed from a 2-piece, straight handled bolt but I thought it was late 40s, early 50s. Since the gun was purchased in January, it was made some time in 1952. I'm assuming that's right around the time for that change. Very nice example of that style gun.

"but I'll be needin' that gun, fer squirrels and such."

 
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(Login FourRings)

That is so nice! What a great find.

November 14 2012, 8:09 PM 

One of these days, I'm going to have to track one down in that condition. Absolutely spectacular. Congrats!

 
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just curious and have to ask

November 14 2012, 9:55 PM 

Whats the serial number on that gun? May not be as old as you think..............

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Re: just curious and have to ask

November 14 2012, 10:27 PM 

serial number: F238767

 
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are you sure

November 14 2012, 10:57 PM 

its an F not an H ? The 312 numbers had an H prefix, not F. Anyhow, H238767 would be 1963. Also, That rear sight was not available until 1959 or so.

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(Login AndrewR7)

Re: are you sure

November 14 2012, 11:20 PM 

Hmm, I'm at work now and have it on my paperwork when I get home tonight I'll check.
Thanks Dave for pointing that out.

 
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Serial nos on 312s

November 15 2012, 1:16 AM 

The chart indicates 1957 was when serial numbers began being issued but I thought I once read there were earlier serial numbers. Sure does look like an F in his photo! Maybe Dean can explain this.

 
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(Login AndrewR7)

Definitely an F prefix

November 15 2012, 1:22 AM 


 
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have to agree with dave

November 15 2012, 1:48 AM 

first off that's a beautiful 312, but it's not a 1954. i think you'll find one made in 54 had a v notch rear site only adjustable for windage. i'm not sure on this one as i am the rear site, but i'm also thinking they had a straight 2 piece bolt. also the only designation i ever saw in front of the serial number was an H. with that rear site, and bolt, i would guess this to be an early 60's gun. still an absolutely beautiful gun.

 
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Joel S.
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Factory Error?

November 15 2012, 8:50 AM 

I may be way off here but wasn't there another model that began with an F serial no? Like maybe model 3100? Could this be a factory error?

 
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maybe, maybe not

November 15 2012, 6:12 PM 

As you say, the 3100 rifle had numbers prefixed with an F. Maybe just luck of the draw with both models made side by side and an F stamped tube got used on a 312. I have a 3120 with a T prefix. The T was used on the 340 series rifles.

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Joel S
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1954

November 15 2012, 6:41 PM 

But was Benjamin even using serial numbers in 1954?

 
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(Login oldwizzer)

Model 312

November 15 2012, 3:08 PM 

The price is right for the date.I never really took notice but some of the 312's seem to have the front sight further towards the front of the barrel and some further back? I wonder if this would help in determining the date. Dean's book only shows serial numbers starting with an H.
I guess Dean will have to come up with the answer.

Ejwills.

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Re: Model 312

November 15 2012, 6:43 PM 

Only weeks ago, I traded a decent Model 310 with another lurker on this Forum. I considered it early post-war, based on the one-piece bolt and the four screws in the corncob, rather than the roll-pins. The serial on the left side was B-8000. Where does the "B" fit in this picture?

Barry in Tennessee

 
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Strange bits for sure

November 15 2012, 8:24 PM 

First off, it's a very nice gun. But something is a bit off and given the stated age, the bolt caught my eye. I have here, a late 40s, early 50s model 310. No serial number on this gun. 2-piece, straight bolt. Front sight set back from the end of the barrel. Rear sight is not adjustable for elevation. Screws for affixing the corn cob handle. I also have a 1968 model 312 with a Bar-O sight. Turn-down, one piece bolt. Front sight is at the end of the barrel. Stock is different - comb isn't straight.

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Contradictory Evidence

November 15 2012, 9:02 PM 

This is really odd. The insert in the box in the photo mentions several models, including the 3100 and 3120. According to the Crosman statistics, those models weren't even released until 1958. How could the packaging of a 1954 model make reference to models that weren't released until 4 years later?

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not really odd

November 15 2012, 9:54 PM 

A nice 60s vintage 312 possibly in its original box. Everything is okay except the receipt which clearly does not fit in. Lose that receipt and its all good.

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Serial number might be odd

November 16 2012, 7:39 PM 

F instead of H, but I suppose anything is possible at a mfg plant like that.

"but I'll be needin' that gun, fer squirrels and such."

 
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MDriskill
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What we really need here...

November 16 2012, 6:24 AM 

...is an expert in the history of cash registers! happy.gif I am not a Benjamin historian whatsoever, but based on the other comments here, I suspect Dave is on the right track--everything fits except the receipt. Possibilities...

1. Box is not original to the gun, maybe an older one the store had in the back room (long shot).

2. "54" refers to something other than the date (longer shot).

3. The "7963" in the other corner relates to the date (longest shot of all LOL, surely it's some other code, though by coincidence the date might be reasonable--i.e. July 9, 1963!).

4. My bet would be that "54" is simply a typo. Remember that would have been set manually back in those days--machines did not have memories, clocks did not re-set themselves automatically, etc. Change one digit, you got "64!"

Regardless...GREAT gun, congrats on finding it and thanks for the "time warp" pics!


    
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This is the train of thought I had also

November 16 2012, 11:03 AM 

but added:

5. What year did the yellow boxes start? We know there were green boxes for rifles up to a point.

 
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(Login oldwizzer)

Suggested prices......

November 16 2012, 2:44 PM 

1956 - $20 1964 - $27.50.

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Benjamin Boxes and Receipts

November 16 2012, 3:25 PM 

I have what certainly appears to be an all-original kit comprising of a boxed Model 312, with a receipt from Harris Brothers Hardware Co. in Los Angeles dated 5/8/1942 for one Air Rifle, priced at $8.97 + .27 tax= $9.24. The box itself is full-length for the rifle. The bolt-handle was in a labeled manila envelope. I've not seen a Model 31X in anything other than the half-box until I found this one. I've been told that there was no Pre-war production of this Model, but for it to have been sold in 1942, it couldn't have been produced later, could it? I'm in Florida and it's in Tennessee, or would forward photos- Would appreciate comments on pre-war production possibilities as well- Using Dean's Book as a guide, what year does the price of $8.97 surface?

Barry in Tennessee

 
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Benjamins in Boxes

November 16 2012, 3:40 PM 

Bordering on trivia, but the tin of pellets in the box is the expected green tin lid is just slip-on; as in "not threaded"....any comments on probable dates for same?

Barry in Tennessee

 
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Dean's book.....

November 17 2012, 7:14 PM 

Dean's book shows a 1940 advertisement which shows a model 312.

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(Login AndrewR7)

Anyone familiar of Mr Wiggs? that's the seller of this Benji.

November 17 2012, 9:04 PM 

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312

November 17 2012, 10:27 PM 

I have been looking for a 312 of that condition to add to my collection of Benjamin & Sheridan pumpers. If you would like to find a good home for it, look no further.

 
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