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With regard to the FWB 12x series rifles.......

March 27 2016 at 7:40 PM
Leonardj  (Login leonardj)
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Does anyone have any info on the approximate serial number range where the engineering change was made to the safety slider on the FWB 12x series of rifles?

When did the safety slide go from this:

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To this:

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alb77
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more questions than answers

March 27 2016, 9:06 PM 

your top example looks like a 3 digit ser.# making it a MK1 gun. when did they make the MK11 guns?
also from the early guns there was also a increase in the breech Oring size

 
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Leonardj
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The gun is a 5 digit serial number.....

March 28 2016, 7:27 PM 

The gun is a 5 digit serial number in the 11xxx range.
The breech seal is the larger diameter as found on the later guns.

 
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Terry in LP
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All of mine ...

March 27 2016, 11:52 PM 

are like the top pics. Don't remember ever seeing the other style.

 
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Leonardj
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Interesting .....

March 28 2016, 7:30 PM 

All my own 12x rifles have the safety slider as seen in the two lower pics.

Would you care to share the serial number ranges of your guns? (ie - first two digits, then xxx)

 
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Terry in LP
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Haven't shot 'em in a while.

March 29 2016, 11:33 PM 

My 4 are ...

No hole in safety:

124 Standard - 17xxx

124 Deluxe - 24xxx

Hole in safety:

124 Deluxe - 34xxx

124 Standard - 61xxx

 
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Leonardj
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Thank you. (NT)

March 29 2016, 11:39 PM 

NT

 
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RedFeather
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Might that be an aftermarket safety?

March 29 2016, 6:13 PM 

I know safeties are among the first casualties of Bubba rebuilds.

 
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Leonardj
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I agree with your comment regarding rebuild, but...

March 29 2016, 6:56 PM 

This is definitely an early version of the OEM safety slider.


    
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alb77
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leonard question on FWB

March 29 2016, 7:23 PM 

is it a deluxe or plain stock gun, if deluxe, is the butt pad rounded black plastic or brown rubber with white line spacer as in all the later guns.
looks like deluxe gun (Stocks) have a flat with radius at safety and standard guns are rounded off


    
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Leonardj
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It is.....

March 29 2016, 11:49 PM 

A deluxe stock in walnut, with the Wundhammer swell on the right side of the pistol grip, and cut checkering.
The butt pad has the white line spacer, and is similar in profile to that found on the later guns - but - the butt pad is red rubber, and it appears to me to be original to the stock. I've never seen nor heard of the red rubber butt pad being used on the FWB sporters.


 
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Don R.
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Red rubber pad...

March 30 2016, 1:02 PM 

Len,

Kevin Hull has a stock for sale on gunbroker just now, deluxe beech with red buttpad. Item No. 550106882 if you want to look for details to compare.

 
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Leonardj
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Hi Don....

March 30 2016, 6:51 PM 

That is exactly the same red butt pad - thank you for the heads up on that auction.

I had never seen nor heard of the red butt pad before, and in the past few days, I've now seen two of them.
Can you perhaps comment on how common these red butt pads are, based upon the many shows that you have attended over the years?

 
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Don R.
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Re: Hi Don....

March 31 2016, 11:03 AM 

Although I never specifically registered butt-pad color when seeing/handling 124's over the years, the red version is pretty noticeable. Actually I don't recall seeing any others.

 
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evert
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Re: It is.....

April 1 2016, 2:27 PM 

The walnut, wundhammer swell, white spacer and red/brown buttpad sounds like a 124 I have.

Bought it cheap, 100Nkr (thats about 12US dollars) but it had major water damage.

 
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Matthew Noe
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Had a red rubber butt pad gun for a time

April 1 2016, 8:28 PM 

But haven't seen very many come up for sale, nor have I purchased another (I've had maybe two dozen? over the years). The gun I had was an early 6xxx serial, San Anselmo import, and had a distinctively reddish stain on the beech stock as well.

Addressing the walnut stock issue - I believe there was only one year that the 124 was offered in an optional factory walnut stock by Beeman, around 1982 - these were in a much higher serial number range. I do have one, serial number 539xx. Robert Law did offer a custom stock option, I believe he called it the F120, that was walnut. These were naturally very early guns, one that I had was a 2xxx serial, with the smaller breech seal.

Hope that helps!

Matthew Noe

 
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