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Anyone have any decent photos of a Bouillet pistol?

November 25 2017 at 8:00 PM
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Mike  (Login 17hornet)

 
I was chatting with a friend and it came up...thanks,
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Garvin
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Never heard of it.

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November 26 2017, 1:05 PM 

What is it? happy.gif
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Trevor
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A couple of French air gun-makers,mentioned several times in Wolff's AIR GUNS

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November 26 2017, 2:49 PM 

I've never seen one.

 
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Mike
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That’s where I saw it,

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November 26 2017, 4:21 PM 

And I have a friend that has one, in not terrific shape...I know he can snap photos for me, but he’s not on the internet, so I thought I’d try here....saves photo processing and mailing..
He tells me Beeman has the only other one he’s heard of...
After chatting with oldair, I decided to try here first

 
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Mike
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It’s a French 1720ish vintage

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November 26 2017, 4:23 PM 

Unusual butt reservoir pistol...quite complicated,according to Wolffs description


    
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Sounds interesting, thanks n/t

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November 27 2017, 7:13 AM 

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Don R.
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Possible lead?...

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November 27 2017, 10:53 AM 

I mentioned that my feeble memory had a vision of a Bouillet pistol in the old Warren Moore book - which is so cheap on Amazon you may wanna get one just for kicks:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0010YCW2Y/ref=tmm_hrd_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=&sr=

Maybe someone here has the book and could check?


    
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LarryH
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Boulliet pistol

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November 27 2017, 11:26 AM 

Mike:

I have an example of Boulliet's small snub nose, ball reservoir pistol...unlike the later (??) large model you're referring to here. You can see it on the top of page 15 in "Pneumatic Reflections" if you have not already thrown away your copy.

Larry

 
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Leonardj
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I have the book, and here is the pic......

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November 27 2017, 6:06 PM 

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Don R.
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Thanks, Len...

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November 27 2017, 6:40 PM 

I guess my memory isn't totally shot yet. Wonder what the thing protruding from the backside of the reservoir could be?

 
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Mike
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Thanks, Larry, you were just in time

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November 27 2017, 7:03 PM 

I’ve been using the book, a page at a time on the bottom of the birdcage, luckily, I'm only at page 14.....
I appreciate it...

 
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Mike
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I received photos this afternoon from a guy that owns one,

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November 27 2017, 7:06 PM 

I hope to be able to post them...
I have 6 photos

 
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Garvin
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Mike if you would kindly

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November 28 2017, 7:38 AM 

email me the pics, I'll put them in my gallery (if the owner is happy with this?) and post a link here. happy.gif

My email on the final page of the e-magazine here:

https://issuu.com/garvin3/docs/airgun_collector
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LarryH
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proper paper recycling

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November 28 2017, 10:21 AM 

Mike:

I was happy to hear of your clever recycling use of the paper pages, but I was somewhat concerned at first that your story would involve an outhouse connection.

Larry

 
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Garvin
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Pics of this pistol here

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November 28 2017, 5:20 PM 


 
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Don the owner thinks

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November 29 2017, 9:11 AM 

the thing protruding from the back of the reservoir might be for fitting a shoulder stock, I'm told.
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DT Fletcher
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rather unique...

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November 29 2017, 3:57 PM 

Got any pics of the inner workings of this guy?

It would be nice to know exactly what's going on. My first guess, from the circa 1750s dating, would be a bypass valve much like the Austrian Butt Reservoir battery. On page 132 of Wolff writes, 'The brothers are identified as among those who developed the air gun. A butt-reservoir pistol is at hand, similar, in some o reservoir features, to the Austrian type. A ball-reservoir example, also a pistol, has been examined. Both are rather unique.'

There is also the 1862 Austrian Genie Korp specification about using CO2 in a pistol (for defending an emplacement with mines.) This predates any Giffards, so, it is possible that it was the Boulliet that was being referenced. As I've mentioned before, those big wheel cranked pumps seen in Vienna are not air pumps; they're CO2 pumps.

 
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Mike
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Ha, Larry,

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November 29 2017, 7:21 PM 

Your book is safe and sound after all...thanks for the tip...

 
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