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Eastern Conference report after 20 games

This is ONLY the eastern conference, the west teams have not all played 20 yet. Teams are reviewed in the order of standings after 10 games.

Calgary Hitmen
After 10 games they were tied for first in the east with 7 wins 3 losses.
After 20 the Hitmen have dropped slightly to second place with 15 wins and 5 losses.
This means in their second set of 10 games the Hitmen have 8 wins 2 losses and improed on their first 10 games and still dropped to second in the standings.

Saskatoon Blades
After 10 the Blades were tied for first with 6 wins 2 losses and 2 SO Losses.
After 20 the Blades have stepped past the Hitmen to claim first in the east with 15 wins 3 losses and 2 so losses.
This means in their second set of 10 games the Blades are 9 wins and 1 loss, and the hottest team in the east to claim first place.

Moose Jaw Warriors
After 10 the Warriors were in 3rd with 6 wins and 4 losses.
After 20 the Warriors are still in 3rd place with 12 wins and 8 losses.
There is no change between their first 10 and their second 10, consitency so far for the Warriors.

Swift Current Broncos
After 10 games the Bronccos were tied for 3rd place with Moose Jaw with 6 wins and 4 losses.
After 20 the Broncos have dropped to 7th with 10 wins 9 losses and 1 so loss.
In their second set of 10 games the Broncos had 4 wins 5 lossses and 1 so loss.

Edmonton Oil Kings
After 10 the Kings were 4th in the east with 5 wins 3 losses and 2 so losses.
After 20 the kings have dropped out of a playoff spot with 7 wins 10 losses and 3 so losses.
In their second set off 10 games the Kings had 2 wins 7 losses and 1 so loss good enough to land them in 10th spot in the east.

Medicine Hat Tigers
After 10 games the Tigers were 5th in the east with 4 wins 2 losses 2 ot losses and 2 so losses.
After 20 the Tigers have climbed to 4th spot with 9 wins 7 losses 2 ot losses and 2 so losses.
In their second set of 10 games the Tigers had 5 wins and 5 losses and while they have clibed in the standings their first 10 games were actually better than their second set standings wise.

Brandon Wheat Kings
After 10 games Brandon was 6th with 5 wins 4 losses and 1 so loss.
After 20 Brandon has climbed into 5th place with 10 wins 8 losses and 2 so losses.
In their last 10 games Brandon had 5 wins 4 losses and 1 so loss to remain consistent in their gameplay and still climb the standings.

Kootenay Ice
After 10 games the Ice were 7th with 4 wins and 6 losses.
After 20 the Ice have dropped to 11th spot with 8 wins 11 losses and 1 ot loss.
In their second set of 10 games the Ice had 4 wins 5 losses and 1 ot loss for an improvement on their first 10 and yet still dropped in the standings out of the playoff picture.

Prince Albert Raiders
After 10 games PA was tied for 8th with 6 wins 4 losses.
After 20 PA has climbed significantly to 6th spot with 10 wins 8 losses and 2 so losses.
In their second set of 10 games PA had 4 wins 4 losses and 2 so losses and while they have clibed in the standings their first 10 games were better for points than their second set.

Red Deer Rebels
After 10 games the Rebels were 4 wins and 6 losses and found themself in 10th place.
After 20 the Rebels are tied for 8th spot with 10 wins 10 losses.
In their second set of 10 games the Rebels had 6 wins and 4 losses and shown steady improvement.

Regina Pats
After 10 games the Pats were tied for 10th spot with 4 wins and 6 losses.
After 20 the Pats are still tied with thee Rebels for 8th spot now with 9 wins 9 losses and 2 ot losses.
In theeir second set of 10 games the Pats had 5 wins 3 losses and 2 ot losses and shown steady improvement.

Lethbridge Hurricanes
After 10 games the Canes were in last spot with 3 wins 6 losses and 1 ot loss.
After 20 thee Canes are still last with 7 wins 11 losses and 2 ot losses.
In their second set of 10 games the Canes had 4 wins 5 losses and 1 ot loss.

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Tigers!

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:46 AM

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My Conclutions....

This is the teams I think will make the playoffs not nessisarilly in these positions.

Saskatoon
The real deal I think

Calgary
Questionable, playing alot of teams that are barely .500 right now.

Brandon
Memorial Cup hosts and I do not think we have seen this team play like thaay can.

Red Deer
Plagued by injuries for the first 15 games (Ferraro Petrovic and others) this team is finally all on the ice.

Regina
To much talent on this roster to not continue winning some games.

Medicine Hat
With their coach being called away to coach the WJHC and the super serries the Tigers will struggle.

Moose Jaw
Very young team again this season, lots of talent but little experience.

Prince Albert
I really do not know where to place this team, consistency is not with them and this could easily be Lethbridge the way thee standings look right now the 8th spot is wide open.

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Tigers!

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 8:08 AM

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I think you can pencil Lethbridge in for at least the 8 seed.

by canesrock

If nothing else, Prince Albert probably has a tougher schedule with more games against the East Division, which is better than the Central. They get S'toon, Brandon, M.J. and even a better Regina squad for the majority of their games.

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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 9:51 AM

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The ENTIRE East div is .500 or better

by Pepper Carrot

Been awhile since ive seen that. Its definately going to be a good battle till the end. Hopefully the Blades can continue their strong play(wont be easy)

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 10:57 AM

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Attention giants fans or any other fan coming from the west on hwy 1

Fyi the new evans road overpass is now open you can take that exit make a left at the light straight thru the roundabout and it takes you right to the front of the rink.

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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 2:36 AM

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A few images from last nights game in Spokane

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 12:35 AM

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I see Tajdeh let in 5 poals on 36 shots. How did he play? nm

by canesrock

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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 8:25 AM

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ALONE?

by Carpathian

Last night left a whole lot to be desired.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 8:57 AM

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I assume you mean the whole team was lousy How

by canesrock

did Michael play though? Stats can be decieving. If the team stunk maybe he did OK.

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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 8:59 AM

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Cole Penner

The Bruins just traded a 12th round pick to P.A. for the rights to Penner.

What's the deal with this kid? 4th overall pick in 2006 but there seemed to be a lot of issues afterwards.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 11:04 PM

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Just a tad

I have always been a fan. If he ever decided to play hockey he could be great I think but has always worried about being a tough guy

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 11:42 PM

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Probably not going to report.

by bcdfan

Seems to love the AJ alot. Didn't lose much by trading for him.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:47 AM

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he will report

by FUMANCHEW

maybe just not this year. Good for Bruno thought he was a bit classless for holding onto a player who didnt want to be there. As for Cole its now time to **** or get off the pot as he is going to a team with fantastic coaching .

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 10:38 AM

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AJ

isn't he in bcjhl?

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 10:43 AM

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No Beach for Team WHL?

by JC

The guy basically has a goal a game and is not on either roster in either game for the Canada/Russia series?

Also, what is up with the selection of the goalies? Someone please explain that one or is it the WHL has no hope in hell in having a goalie at this years WJC?

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 10:57 PM

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Beach is blacklisted by Hockey Canada...

by Redwic

... especially ever since he wore a "Team OHL" sign several seasons ago, in protest to how the OHL controlled the roster and lineups to better promote their players than players from the WHL or QMJHL. He actually was correct, at the time, but his actions will not be soon forgotten.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 11:57 PM

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Goaltending

by Greg & Barb

The two goalies selected for Team WHL were both ones that performed well for Hockey Canada in the summer. Calvin Pickard was chosen for Team Canada's U-18 roster for the Ivan Hlinka Tournament this summer (where Canada defeated Russia 9-2 to win gold) and is obviously going to remain on Team Canada's radar. Martin Jones is one of 4 goalies who the Team Canada scouts selected from the Program of Excellence camp back in June (Jones, Jake Allen, Olivier Bellevance-Roy, & Matt Hackett) where he was selected and out-performed other WHL goalies such as Jamie Tucker and Adam Brown.

The choices for goaltending on Team WHL weren't based on this season's performances: they were Team Canada strategic choices and guys which with Team Canada scouts have been following and working with.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:52 AM

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Looks like PG and Seattle will battle it out for last overall this year

by JC

Who are the top picks for the Bantam draft next April and is there a consensus #1 out there right now?

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 10:55 PM

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pirate?

by bobloblaw17

pirate?

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 10:59 PM

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Do you like apples?

by HHockey

How do you like them apples? GO HURRICANES!!

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 8:35 PM

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great game.....................

by shushu

for a team that doesn't have all the talent they can beat anyone when they work hard and play smart.........great job tonight canes................

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 9:05 PM

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feels good to beat Calgary

by CanesFan17

Its been a long time since the Canes got a W against the Hitmen (I think something like 11 games) The boys earned it tonight ... I thought it was a pretty entertaining hockey game too regardless of the outcome.

I was hoping Brandon Anderson would get one of the 3 stars as I thought he played a pretty decent game. Not many teams have held Kozun and Broda in check (although Kozun did get an assist)

8-5-2-0 record since the Canes 0-6 start isn't too bad. Its crucial to get the 2 points in divisional games to help the Canes make up some ground.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 9:11 PM

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yeah, i was kinda hope'n........................

by shushu

anderson would have gotten the third star, for a kid that didn't have alot of playing time it sure doesn't show...as for the 0-6 start if preston would have known the players right off the bat im sure it wouldn't have been 0-6..he would have made the moves he needed right away.....but i love the way he takes a calm approach to everything he does .....i think we have a keeper for a gm/coach.............

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 9:26 PM

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How did donaghy play?

by Crosby, Staals & Nash

I saw he had 2 assists, How was his game overall tho? He didnt put up that many points for us in 13 games this year but he hit everything that moved & skated his butt off every shift

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 9:40 PM

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he looked alright..................

by shushu

every kid that roles into town needs 3 or 4 game to get into the their groove...the one thing i really noticed was he hits as hard as sbisa and has this CALMING effect on the other team, no cheap shot no dirty play...you can tell 99% of the other team players are scared sh@tless of him.....he's like a shark in a guppy tank...........

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 9:54 PM

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Donaghy was used on the PP too

by Greg & Barb

Lethbridge had Donaghy be the guy to stand right infront of the Hitmen net on the power play - it worked out pretty damn good except for the one time where he absolutely backed into Jones and took a goaltender interference penalty.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 8:04 AM

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good game by Canes

Very disappointing for us Hitmen fans who made the trek down to the windy city (40 of us). Canes deserved the win as they won all parts of the game, lose pucks, faceoffs, corners, etc. And you were right they did a good job on Kozun and if he is shut out you have a good chance on beating the Hitmen. I though Sbisa should've been first star as he never seemed to leave the ice. I had Ashton as second star then either Braes or Cowan for third. Cowan has been a nice pickup for us. The first two goals were beauties by the Canes. Your team has rebounded nicely after their horrible start and shouldn't be taken lightly.

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Re: Do you like apples?

by Jerry

Good on lethbridge. greg and barb won't be able to sleep.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 10:59 PM

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Nice

by Greg & Barb

Ha, good one - I needed a few beers in order to stomach the Hitmen performance for sure. By the 20 minute lineups, it felt like they had only one liquor stand open though...

What can you say? The Hurricanes showed up for the whole game, the Hitmen did not. There was a shot where Broda nailed the inside of the post with a few minutes to go, but other than that there weren't many great opportunities for Calgary to tie the game back up. Sbisa had a great game for Lethbridge and Ashton had a good game as well - the Central Division stays close!

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 8:02 AM

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Sbisa set the tone early and the team followed with a

by canesrock

good gritty effort. Still luv how hard Sbisa hits since his days in the NHL. He not only had the hit of the game but probably the 2nd and 3rd best hits also. He was a dominant force out thier last night. If this is how Sbisa plays the rest of the year the Canes are gonna be a team to be reckoned with yet.
Also, Brandon Anderson has made the back up goalie spot into a fight. It will be interesting to see how that washes out from here on. Up until 2 weeks ago it was Kolpanen's job but now Anderson has made his case for the #2 tender spot loud and clear. Nice to see though because if Rowat goes down again we at least have a capable backup.

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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 9:15 AM

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Sbisa makes a difference

by Greg & Barb

...to the Canes' D for sure; One of the highlights had to be when he drove down the wing and drew that penalty in the 2nd period. It was a good game by Lethbridge and at this pace they can easily get over .500 and into the playoffs.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 9:32 AM

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Classy move by Tips organization

by tipped off

You may not like the team, but this is a real nice gesture by the Silvertips.

From Nick Patterson's blog at heraldnet.com....

Honoring Jordan Mistelbacher (updated)

Posted at 4:46 pm by Nick Patterson

The WHL released its list of alumni attending college using their WHL scholarships today. As usual, there's a fair number former Silvertips taking advantage of their scholarships, as well as a handful of former Tips who are on scholarship from other WHL teams they played for.

But there was one name on the list that stood out to me:

Utah State University Logan UT, (1)
Tyler Mistelbacher Winnipeg, MB Everett Silvertips

Tyler Mistelbacher never played for Everett. Indeed, he never played in the WHL. However, the Tips have granted the scholarship of former player Jordan Mistelbacher, who passed away last January, to his older brother.

I was happy to see this.

--- UPDATE, 4:50 p.m.

Tips general manager Doug Soetaert passed along some information regarding this. The ability to confer the scholarship of a deceased player to a sibling was agreed upon by the league's board of governors during the summer. In the wake of Jordan Mistelbacher's death, the Tips brought the issue to the board's attention, and the board voted unanimously to implement the idea.

Kudos to the board of governors for making this possible.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 4:59 PM

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kudos to the org & the dub........quite refreshing for these times we live in

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:09 PM

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Great organization....

by hoople head

And classy move setting this wonderful precedence.

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 6:19 PM

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umm

Its to a US school do the teams in the states get a choice of Canadian or US schools

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Yes

by Welcometothecircus

Assuming you're question is serious... you'll find the entire list of scholarships on the whl site.

http://www.whl.ca/whl-awards-253-scholarships-to-graduate-players-p138748

Summary: WHL Scholarships 2009-2010
Canadian Universities, Western Canada 151 - (41 former US Division players)
Canadian Universities, Eastern Canada 44 - (12 former US Division players)
Canadian Colleges 49 -(8 former US Division players)
U.S. Colleges, Universities 9 - (4 former US Division players)

Total - WHL Scholarships 253

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 8:17 PM

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how did you know

by bear

it was a question?

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 8:36 PM

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ROFL!

by Welcometothecircus

I made an assumption based on the use of the word "do" in the middle of the post. Never even noticed there was no punctuation.

I guess I can credit that to my edjucashun in US skools.

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 10:11 PM

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Please forgive me grammar police

Sorry i missed one button on my post.

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You also missed

by Welcometothecircus

the fact I was poking fun at myself. No offense intended.

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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:36 AM

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wow, nice to see...................

by shushu

very classy move by the tips organization,shows that these kids mean more to the dub and its fans than just cattle though the gates every for years...they are apart of the dub family and always will be.......

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 9:41 PM

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classy!!

by peatfan

Agree with all that it shows the players are valued by the league and not considered only as players.
Very classy move by all involved and has set a great precedent if this situation every arises (hopefully never again but you never know)

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 11:53 PM

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Re: Classy move by Tips organization

by Jerry

class act, well done everett. i wonder if the pg franchise would do something like that.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 10:57 PM

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Re: Classy move by Tips organization

by Carpathian

I think that this probably means a lot to the family not just financially but also in that it is like a last gift from one brother to another. Very cool.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 8:59 AM

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Liambas conspiracy theory...

by bobloblaw17

Interesting read, not sure how factual it is though...

http://futureconsiderationsdotca.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/liambas-the-centre-of-conspiracy/

Liambas the centre of conspiracy?
November 9, 2009, 7:05 pm
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Conspiracy theorists unite.

Has Michael Liambas become the scapegoat for something bigger?

Liambas has been levied the largest suspension in Major Junior hockey history, forced to sit out the remainder of the regular season and playoffs in his overage season effectively ending his junior career for his hit on 16-year-old Ben Fanelli.

On the play, Fanelli suffered a fractured skull, broken orbital bone and facial lacerations.

The hit was one even Ontario Hockey League commissioner David Branch, who gave Liambas the heavy suspension, wouldnt call illegal.

And hes right. The hit itself can easily be argued clean. In turn, the resulting injury can be attributed to a number of factors, including helmet failure, arena specifications and just plain old bad luck.

Apparently, the league and CCM have/are looking into whether or not Fanellis helmet failed and whether or not the helmet was worn properly.

More interestingly, there are unconfirmed rumours floating alleging the stanchions Fanelli hit his head on after Liambas made contact with him werent safe and up to code. Those metal brackets at the zamboni entrance to the ice have since been removed and replaced with glass that absorbs impact, where as the supports were rigid, as Fanelli found out but likely wont remember.

So what does this have to do with Liambas suspension?

The rumour around internet message boards is an alleged lawsuit is being prepared against the City of Kitchener and the Kitchener Rangers for the rink not being up to code, as well as allowing Fanelli to play with an improper helmet.

Theorists claim the Erie Otters overager was allegedy given such a harsh suspension because Branch is working with the Rangers and the City of Kitchener to place the apparent negligence on Liambas, absolving the latter two parties from any responsibility of injury suffered on the hit.

Is this the case, or does the hockey population just love a good conspiracy?

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The more look at the hit and stop it at everyframe

by canesrock

I don't think it was dirty at all. The guys at Coming Down the Pipe say it best:

"""Am I (Down the Pipe guys) the only one that sees Fanelli turning his back to an oncoming forechecker as he makes a reverse pass? I have to wonder what the end result of that hit would have been had Fanelli simply met Liambas facing forward - surely he would have been hit, and hard, but injured? Liambas is clearly lining up to deliver a hit but I don't see an elbow up, he springs upwards but I don't see a "jump", and he would have hit Finelli square in the chest if that chest hadn't suddenly rotated."""

If you look at it Fanelli, he turns his back "after" Liambis had already crossed the goal line which means he was only about 4 feet away traveling at full speed. There is no way in the world Liambas has more than about 1/8 of a second or less to change his mind on the hit. Impossible to do in a blink of an eye. Clean hit and that's that.

One point that is raised a few times is that Fanelli never sees Liambis coming at him. I disagree. Stop the video just when Fanelli reaches the face off dot on his way back of the net. Also again just before he reaches the goal line. He clearly takes a quick look back to see who is coming not once but twice. I think Fanelli thinks his goalie is gonna block Liambis from getting a clear shot at him because just before the hit the goalie is clearly right between the two. At the very last split second Fanelli sees Liambis and tries to turn to avoid the direct hit.

Yes the results are scary and I hope Fanelli is OK. The hit however is clean and just a terribly unlucky incident. This is Hockey though. Hitting is allowed.

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No, it's not a clean hit

by hoople head

There have been plenty of instances where a guy turns his back at the last second and the fella pasting him still get's a game misconduct and a suspension. I remember Kevin Undershutte destroyed Hanzel with the same type of hit, Hanzel turned his back at the last second, Undershutte not being able to stop drove him into the boards and then sat one game for it.

Not only that look at that cross check to the chops 5 seconds after it occurs, that alone is worth a game misconduct and a 4-5 game suspension.

All that being said the suspension is far too long. I don't know what the correct suspension would be without knowing his full history. If he has a long history of these type of hits then I'd say a good 15-20 games would be about right. But don't sit there and tell me that he doesn't deserve to even be penalized, but he certainly does. Moreover I dunno if he even wants to play hockey anymore reading that article that someone else posted. When you are responsible for hurting someone like that it would be a completely life changing event.

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I disagree Hoop. If the kid does not turn at the

by canesrock

last split second and his helmet stays on, what was dirty about it. He did not aim for his head, give him an elbow or jump up into him. He just did his job and made a hit.

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 11:55 AM

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still doesn't matter

by hoople head

by the rule book it's still cfb. Players are penalized and suspended for hitting guys that have turned their backs to the play at the last second all the time.

All evidence points to the fact that this guy was a loose canon, so combined with the hit and the actions after it he certainly deserves a long suspension. But a lifetime ban... too much.

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20 Games...

by Greg & Barb

...would have been fair - hell, even 25-30 games is a more fitting suspension than what he got!

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 12:17 PM

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Myers

by GCH

Yet Myers gets away with his hit last year because the WHL said the Giant player turned at the last second. Myers did it twice last year in the playoffs and got away with it. The difference being a star and a marginal player?

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 12:22 PM

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Interesting point.....

by brawler

Did the league really say that he wasnt suspended because the kid "turned his back" though???

Could you provide a link? If that is true than the league is really more messed up in the heads than I origanlly thought.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 12:26 PM

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Re: Interesting point.....

by UNreasonablefan

http://reganbartel.blogspot.com/2009_04_01_archive.html
Not far from the top down the page there is a article on a conversation Regan had with the league on the Myers hit.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 5:55 AM

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That hit on Bouma..

by Greg & Barb

...should have gotten Myers 2 games or at least 1 game as a minimum. Then again, the league likes double-standards, right?

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 12:26 PM

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Meyers took out Fadden and Prochyshen

by AmsForLife

last year in the playoffs against them and it proved to be catasrpophic to our team. He hit fadden from behind bad two games in a row and never was suspened. It was a joke because i for sure thought that the first one was worthy of a suspension then he gets aways with the second one as well. Its too bad how political these leagues are.

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I will respectfully disagree

by Centerline

I will respectfully disagree that Kelowna used cheap shots to injure our players. I felt they used their size advantage and played physical to wear us down and beat us up. I felt their game was totally legal and hardnosed hockey. It is our fault for not having someone to take care of that business if in fact cheap shots were being handed out. We were small and fast, they were big and fast, perfect game plan on their part in my opinion. Just getting tired of the pussyfication of this great sport.

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Nothing wrong with good tough hockey...

by Greg & Barb

...but the play in game 6 between Kelowna and Vancouver where Myers rode Bouma head-on into the boards was bad enough that the referees ejected Myers from the game. There's a difference between playing tough and committing a penalty like that. Other than that though, Kelowna used their speed and size to really put on a show last year.

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That's not tough hockey

by hoople head

It doesn't take a tough guy to ram someone from behind into the boards. That's disrespectful chicken sh!t hockey, and it's players like that are attracting all the negative attention from people who probably don't even watch hockey.

You can blame people like bettmen and branch for taking the toughness out of hockey all you like, and you'd be right. But goof ball chicken assed whimps who when they go after someone they do it with a potentially career ending hit like Meyers, Hollweg, Hunt and others are as much a part of the problem.

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Re: Nothing wrong with good tough hockey...

by Anonymous

It wasn't Bouma, it was Schira, & it was a complete cheapshot from a 6'7 wimp. Myers wouldn't have done that if Lucic was on the team. Myers is a p.o.s. & I hope he gets what he did to Schira.

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you'd have to be pretty naive...

by hoople head

if you don't think the fact this kid supposedly laid a bad hit on Tavares last year in the playoffs didn't have anything to do with the length of suspension.

And no, if someone like Meyers had been responsible for a hit like this (and frankly it's only dumb luck that he wasn't) he would not receive a lifetime suspension.

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have a look at that hit

tavares was twirling around and got hit

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How in the world does that matter?

by hoople head

He hit the OHL's golden boy. Do you think branch is going to stand for that?

I swear, I think if I were to start a thread called 'what is your favourite chips' some of you guys would reply 'Benjamin Moore'. Paint chips might be all bright and colourful but that doesn't mean you can eat them.

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Re: How in the world does that matter?

so all you have to do to avoid getting checked is turn your back

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Are you this slow?

by hoople head

Dear god. It doesn't matter, clean or dirty, Branch is going to look after his golden boy tavares and lower the boom on anyone who touches him. Could you try reading and thinking before you post?

oh and 'nm'

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no

I misread the 207pm post thats what started this tailspin

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Are you this rude?

You have an opinion. Learn to accept the fact that other people may have differing opinions.

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yes actually I am

by hoople head

I don't care if he thinks differently, but if he comes back with a snotty post without clearly having even read the thread or the post that he's supposedly up in arms over I'm going to suggest that he stop eating paint chips.

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Tommy Boy from the 90s called, they want their joke back. nm

by ThatGuy

nm.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 9:08 PM

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It's easy to be a mouthpiece on the net

The internet provides people with complete anonymity they can say whatever they want to a point and be as mouthy as they want and be safely tucked away behind their keyboard.

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And you'd be an expert on that one as well.

by hoople head

Wouldn't you?? nm

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safely tucked away behind their keyboard?

by bobloblaw17

what does that mean? If I introduce myself in Chilliwack, I'm not safe?

Pffft...

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Re: safely tucked away behind their keyboard?

I guess not but most probably wouldn't say the same things to someone face to face that they say over the internet. But in your case if you were to say those types of things you would be safe because i'm not a violent person so someone talking to me doesn't lead to blows.

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Good article in the Calgary Sun about it,

by Puffy

I've said all along that head shots need to be taken out of the game!I don't care if they're clean,dirty,cheap...TOO manty kids(and NHLers for that matter)are getting taken out of the game because of it!Lets face it,the game's changed over the years with most of the athletes getting bigger and faster.I think the respect factor has disappeared over the years and players need to put theirselves on notice!!I like the big hits as much as the next fan but do we really need to see kids getting carted or helped off each week?If a player missed the same amount of games as the one that got hurt(without being payed),this would change in a quick hurry!!Drury was hit by Glencross the other night,not too bad a looking hit but none the less to the head....no penalty,yet a suspension by the league and Drury's down for the count!Anyway...heres the article and keep your head up!!

http://www.calgarysun.com/sports/hockey/2009/11/10/11694586-sun.html

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:26 PM

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good theory but...

by bobloblaw17

If a player was suspended for as long as the "victim" was out injured, the potential would be there for a 4th line plugger to stay out for the whole season to nurse his "injury", while the start player on the rival team sat on the sidelines...

Too easy to cheat.

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David Branch "dumbing down" the CHL even more........

by Glen

to appease his chum Gary Bettman. Branch has never made it a secret he would prefer the CHL to be figure skating with hockey equipment and he will continue to push in that direction until hockey fans speak out. David would like some day to be considered for Gary's job.

I wouldn't want my child injured and my heart goes out to the injured player, but do we want the game changed because of an accidental injury caused by two players operating within the rules of the game? I think not!

Nice to see Branch, and I believe the insinuation being put forth that the league will conspire with it's member club to be true, protect the Kitchener Rangers and the league from a lawsuit by essentially putting the league ahead of a player who has done nothing wrong and potentially taking needed financial support from the victim by colluding against them.

Atta boy David, don't support the kids who make your league, support the city and business owners that if proven to be the case, allowed these kids to play in an unsafe environment because we all know that a city would never cut corners on facility upkeep to meet budget constraints or save some money for other projects like making sure the mayors road is plowed clear of snow in the winter.

Please, don't make hockey anymore sissified than it already is.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 9:21 AM

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Damn

by brawler

I even bowed my head for that glen.....Amen.

heh heh

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 10:00 AM

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yeah there's nothing wrong

by hoople head

with laying someone out with a cross check to the chops.

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Gosh damn man its "HOCKEY" it use to happen every game

by brawler

I couldnt imagine sitting with you watching a game 20 years ago......Its this type of mentality that has pansified the sport each and every year IMO.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 12:29 PM

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Difference is...

by longtimefan

20 years ago the player would have had to eventually pay the piper because there was no instigator rule. Now they can hack and yap knowing there are no consequences.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 1:55 PM

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And like I said....Its that way now because of that mentality

by brawler

Thats a fact.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 2:08 PM

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Gosh damn man it's always been 'CROSSCHECKING' and it's always been a penalty/suspension

by hoople head

Are you going to sit here and tell me that 20 years ago nobody was suspended or penalized for crosschecking someone to the face? The tigers used to be coached by Ginell (know who he was?) and I'll tell you right now a cross check to the face has always been a penalty because I saw alot of them. A cross check to the face like that one would have always been worth a game misconduct and an invitation to watch a few games from the stands.

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Yeah but you were useing a crosscheck to support a year suspension right? nm

by brawler

nm

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 2:10 PM

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I didn't know that whining about beach killed brain cells...

by hoople head

Posted by hoople head:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/40684/message/1257882521/No%2C+it%27s+not+a+clean+hit

"All that being said the suspension is far too long. I don't know what the correct suspension would be without knowing his full history. If he has a long history of these type of hits then I'd say a good 15-20 games would be about right. But don't sit there and tell me that he doesn't deserve to even be penalized, but he certainly does."

http://www.network54.com/Forum/40684/message/1257749457/I+still+don%27t+know+enough+about+the+players+to+say+one+way+or+the+other+definitively...

"The mere technicality of the player turning his back at the last split second and the horrid outcome warrants some kind of suspension. And look at him level that other guy with the cross check to the chops, that warrants at least 4 games imho. But a whole season... this kid's history has to be taken into consideration but unless he's the second coming of sean avery then a lifetime ban is way over the top."

I guess whining about Beach for 3+ years does have it's effects. Unless you've been huffing gasoline.

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WTF?

by brawler

What in the hell does this have to do with beach? Spin, spin, spin. Try the topic next time.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 3:18 PM

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Sorry hoop

by brawler

I dont read too many of your posts so I missed it. By the sounds of it I must be missing alot of posts about beach though. LOL

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 3:25 PM

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Good post Glen...

by bobloblaw17

Here's another recent hit, lets see how many games this is worth, two seasons?

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2009/11/another-ohl-questionable-hit.html

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:14 PM

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good comment

I agree that this was a worse hit than the one on the Kitchener player. More of a charge and the puck was passed off a few seconds before hand. Branch has set a terrible standard by his stupid over-reaction to the first hit. The more I looked at the first one the more I think no suspension was warrented as the injury seemed to be because of the no give to the board.

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RE: Liambas conspiracy theory

by Just A Hockey Fan

I don't buy into any conspiracy theories, because there really is no truth behind them, just opinions. All I can say is I think the player who made the hit does factor into the suspension. Liambas is a loose cannon type just like many we have seen come through the West. He has a history of doing dumb things, questionable hits, and just plain agitating. All you have to do is search his name on Youtube and you will find plenty of video evidence. If this was a regular run of the mill player with no history, I highly doubt he gets suspended to the degree that Liambas did. I think the league took a look at the history of the player (Liambas), plus many other factors, and came to the conclusion that the initial response to the **injury**, not the perceived intent, needed to be fast and severe.

Did the injured player not help his own cause by turning into the hit? I believe by turning he put himself into a vulnerable position which added to his injury. However, every league, NHL included, has been hammered by the press, by owners, by coaches, and by the players themselves that they need to start taking more action to stop all the high hits and head contact. Players are losing their careers, and some are losing their well being and even their lives from concussions. These head hunting hits have to stop. Just look in the last couple of weeks in the NHL, Mike Richards, Andrew Ladd, and Curtis Glencross have all delivered head shots to people in vulnerable positions and all 3 players they hit have concussions and could be out for extended periods of time. I know people like big hits and think hockey is a rough sport, but stop and think about it for a minute. Hitting was never put into the game as a tool to **hurt** people. We are talking about peoples brains being bruised here. If you know anything about concussions, you know how severe they are and what the long term problems can be.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 11:29 AM

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How would it affect opinions/suspensions (Kyle Beach)

by Food for thought

What if we were talking Beach instead of Liambas delivering this hit?

He plays with an edge to his game, has a well known and well earned reputation in this league, but also incredible skill and is a first round draft pick. Would Beach be suspended for the remainder of the season? Why or why wouldn't he and Liambas be held to the same standard?

DISCLAIMER

This post is meant to evoke thought, and commentary, and further discussion, of this hot button issue by using an "example" we are all familiar with.

It is in no way meant to compare Liambas and Beach, nor to insinuate they are at equal levels in this game.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 1:10 PM

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I'd say no more than 10 games

by brawler

For ANYONE in the WHL....You know they had to pull this crap off in a different part of the CHL. Wouldnt even suprise me if they were waiting for it looking at the new fighting rules.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 1:31 PM

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What was Brown thinking ?

by Raiderfan

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/88409

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 1:39 AM

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i'm honestly sick of these types of fights

They tell you it is illegal to take helmets off before the fights.. But when the players go in it's the first thing they are looking to do to each other and whoever can do it first will win the fight because he is punching head and face instead of helmet and visor.

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Stupid Fighting Rules

by Greg & Barb

To try and knock off the helmet is just the result of the stupid fighting rules set forth by the WHL - nothing was wrong with the previous rules, but in the typical "proactive fashion", something had to be done.

As for the fight, Schultz has learned - the first few fights of the year he didn't go for the helmet and probably lost those fights for that reason. He's learned, and too bad for Brown but it really kept Calgary hyped up after taking a 3-2 lead.

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Re: What was Brown thinking ?

by Jerry

Calgary play by play guy sounded like he blew his load.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:17 PM

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LOL....Dont know why

by brawler

Didnt look like much of a punch when you watch the replays at the end.....

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:27 PM

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Right

by Calgary Fan

Just fell down to avoid a knock out punch?

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:43 PM

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No the short jab connected and stunned him

by brawler

Just wasnt a "full cork" as your homer put it. Knock out punch? Now thats funny.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:50 PM

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Few feet away

by Calgary Fan

What I saw was different than what you heard.

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I know

by brawler

You're a hitman fan and you see it the hitmen way which is fine. I watched the video of it.
He got the win is that not enough that you have to make it sound like it was mike tysons greatest knockout? It wasnt much at all imo.is that o.k?

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Not a KO or even close

by AmsForLife

It was like brawler said a short jab. He didn't even pull back and throw it. It pretty much stunned him and you anouncer was very excited. The video doesn't lie

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 1:29 PM

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Ok a short jab but he went down anyway

by Calgary Fan

I know your not a hitman fan but..... (patronizing enough?)

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Hey dont get me wrong

by brawler

It was a CLEAR win for your boy no doubts....and if he can knock a guy down with a short jab imagine if he conected with a real haymaker type blow...YIKES!!!!

I like watchin his tilts he has no fears.

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Never would have been a punch thrown in Seattle

by BirdzFan

If that fight happened in Seattle this year, they wouldn't even have gotten to the point of throwing a punch. If it's not a spontaneous fight from a tie up, the linesmen have been in on them so quick they can hardly get a tilt going. I know the crews that ref rotate around but I really haven't seen a good tilt at home this season.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 4:36 PM

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Inconsistency

by Greg & Barb

Some crews have jumped right in, some give instigating penalties, some give misconduct penalties...the only consistent fact has been that officiating crews have been that inconsistent. It makes you wonder if they themselves know what the rule actually is!

Simple solution - screw the helmet when it comes to a fight...things were fine in past seasons, we didn't need these new rules against fighting.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 4:47 PM

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Yea for sure!

by AmsForLife

The Ams have nobody that could match up with him!

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 4:37 PM

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Schmidt?

by Pepper Carrot

Schmidt wouldnt win, but id think he'd give Schultz a decent fight.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 5:57 PM

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Not at all

by slim

Schmidt lost a fight to drayson bowman last year... maybe a draw but still that's all you need to know right there. Schultz is a beast and just as scissors beat paper, beasts beat turtles

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 6:24 PM

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Schmidt Lost?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MatKl6mvyMM

Really? I don't think either guy even connected with a punch. Bowman knocked himself off balance trying to throw one but that's about all that happened.

However, I agree Schmidt couldn't touch Schultz or any other teams tough guy for the most part. Kind of sad if you ask me. We need a tough guy maybe we can get Donaghy or something.

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Tough Guy

by Greg & Barb

As tough as he is, we almost wish that Schultz wouldn't fight as much as he does - he's a great grinder who digs the puck out of corners, a decent penalty killer who has some short-handed goals, and a good guy for putting right infront of the net on the power play - he's got good hand-eye coordination for tipping and that's why he's got 6 of his 14 points on the power play.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:51 AM

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Just looking at the numbers

I took the numbers (The WHL standings PCT) and took the top 4 teams in each division added them up and averaged them.

East = .627
Central = .542
B.C. = .547
U.S. = .694

Rock On AMS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB-wmOYelnM

Back 2 Back U.S. Div. Champs! WAY TO GO AMS!!!

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 11:17 PM

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you wouldn't have posted this if the numbers were different

by obviously

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 11:33 PM

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well in this case i don't think the numbers lie

the way the numbers fall is the way in which i would rank the divisions anyway

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:10 AM

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Thanks captain

by Pepper Carrot

Obviously she wouldnt post it if the US was the weakest division. Swine flew seems to have affected intelligents and the way the thinkings are going on in peeples heds.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:18 AM

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...

by hockeylover19

You must have had it then... Swine "flew" ?

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:50 AM

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Actually its not swine flew anymore

by Salt Carrot

I think they call it R2D2 now.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:00 AM

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Re: Thanks captain

"she"???
Let's try "he"...

Rock On AMS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB-wmOYelnM

Back 2 Back U.S. Div. Champs! WAY TO GO AMS!!!

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And they say pigs can't fly. What do they know anyway. nm

by canesrock

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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:42 AM

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To be honest

After running the numbers I was thinking that the AMS have not been playing the U.S. teams that much this far. The U.S. teams will be a true slug fest. That alone will drive the average down in the U.S.
Off the top we played Portland 2 times, Seattle 2 times, Everett 0 games, and Spokane 3 games so far. We will have 33 U.S. team games to play before it's over. Long way to go yet.

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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 9:09 AM

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Central Division

by Greg & Barb

It's still early and all apologies to Red Deer who still hasn't played 20 games, but if the playoffs were to go today, 4 teams from the Central Division wouldn't make the playoffs in Eastern Conference.

(Edmonton 19 Pts, Red Deer 18 Pts, Kootenay 17 Pts, Lethbridge 16 Pts)

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 5:28 AM

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The newest Massey ratings back it up too.

by Ams1fan

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=whl

4 US Division teams in the top 6. And Seattle appears to be playing a lot better recently too, almost beating Portland (heartbreaking finish for them) and beating Chilliwack (who beat the AMS and Calgary) last night.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 7:49 AM

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Five Central teams in the bottom 10. No doubt the

by canesrock

Central is the weakest division now. If the Hitmen were having a poor season this could be one of the weaker divisions of all time. It is only about 30% of the way through the season but I don't expect a whole lot of change. One or two of the weak sisters may turn it up, but right now Central teams occupy the bottom 4 spots in the conference.

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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:52 AM

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Which is why...

by Greg & Barb

..the Hitmen's record of 16-5 doesn't look that impressive when 9 of their wins have come against Central opponents (9-0 record). The good news for them is that their next 3 matchups are against their division - Tuesday in Lethbridge, Wednesday afternoon at home vs Kootenay, Friday at home vs Med Hat.

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I kinda have to guestion those Masset ratings for

by canesrock

exactly your point. How are the Hitmen rated 2nd when they beat up on a bunch of weak teams? Just askin.

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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 9:39 AM

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We always used to question...

by Greg Medwid

...how Vancouver was always rated so good when they beat up on Prince George and Chilliwack 8-10 times a year, but the shoe's on the other foot now. All you can do is take the victories: 2 points is 2 points though we did expect teams like Edmonton and Red Deer to be tougher opponents this season!

Do you figure the Tuesday game at the Enmax Centre will be a good tilt? Gotta figure that there's gonna be a few good scraps that night!

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Central Div is even not weak.

by Calgary Fan

If you have a bunch of middle of the road teams beating each other it shows how close they are. The top teams in all divisions are winning against lower teams not just Calgary.

The lethbridge fan should wait to have Cal-Leth play before your comment about Calgary's weakness. While I say this I think Leth will be a playoff team in the end.

What isn't shown is Calgary's high number of close games unlike last year.

The following list is copied from the hitemn site. Not just week teams.

HITMEN VS: (Bran 1-0), (Cwk 0-1), (Edm 4-0), (Evt 1-0), (Kam 0-0), (Kel 0-1), (Ktn 1-0), (Leth 0-0), (MH 1-0), (MJ 0-2), (Port 1-0), (PA 0-0), (PG 0-0), (RD 3-0), (Reg 1-0), (Sask 0-1), (Sea 1-0), (Spok 0-0), (SC 1-0), (TC 0-0), (Van 1-0)

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 10:01 AM

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no, weak is the correct term.

by hoople head

The only middle of the road club in the central are the tigers, and for them things are going to get a whole bunch worse before they get better. I expect them to dip below .500 in december. There's no way that willy is only thinking about the tigers or even the whl right now.

Everyone else in the central who aren't the hitmen... well frankly they suck and they're going to have to fight like hell to make the playoffs. The only team that might climb out and become 'middle of the road' is red deer. And the tigers are going to have to bounce back and play top hockey because if another central team turns it up in the new year the orange and black might find themselves on the outside looking in come playoff time for the first time in a long while.

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Don't think the Tigers have to worry

by Greg & Barb

Fundamentally they're a strong team - losing their coach for a month will definitely hurt, but you have to figure that the 8th place team in the Eastern Conference will probably get 65-70 points and the Tigers are on pace for more than that for sure. Getting to the playoffs won't be a big concern; getting a few rounds deep might be a worry....

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I'm not that worried about it but...

by hoople head

They aren't playing great hockey right now, if they really tank it through december they could find themselves in a deep hole. If that happens and red deer and say edmonton go on a real hot streak then the tigers will be in for one hell of a fight. Alot of ifs there, but I don't think any tiger fan can afford to be cocky.

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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 11:07 AM

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With the Tigers...

by longtimefan

Two things are happening right now. One, they aren't playing a very good defensive game and two, they are getting average goaltending at best. Never seen a Willie coached team give up so many odd man rushes. People here tend to blame it all on the defencemen but they are getting very poor support from the forwards. Goalies didn't get much help in Brandon on Saturday but the Regina game out of the 7 goals against 4 were what I would call stoppable.. If both these areas don't start getting better soon they might dig a hole they can't get out of.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 11:22 AM

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Caught a couple of webcasts...

by hoople head

And while the tigers are wearing the orange and black they certainly don't look like they are playing tiger hockey.

I really want willy to hurry up and bring home the gold and then concentrate on the tigers again. Because for the first time in nearly a decade they look poorly coached. The same thing happened when sutter was coaching the the wjc, those rebel teams certainly weren't playing sutter hockey in the first half of the season either.

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Not sure if...

by longtimefan

I would use the World Junior gig as an excuse, although he's probably not spending as much time with the team as normal. But he does have two assistants that should be shouldering more of the load. I just don't think they as talented as past teams. Also the goaltending is an issue. Good goaltending can make up for a lot of errors in other areas.

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all true

by hoople head

I'm not saying that someone needs to be fired, these are the same coaches that helped hang all those banners but perhaps they're a little complacent. I get that they aren't going to be an elite team this year but all those odd man rushes imho are a product of a club not buying into the system, which goes back to the coaches.

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The close games are good

by Greg & Barb

With so many close games, it'll definitely help out Calgary - even Foucault admitted on the radio last night that when you're blowing out opponents night-after-night 7-1 that as soon as they had a close game they were turning on each other last season.

You do have to admit that teams like Edmonton (7-11-2-3) are off to a disappointing start - they have talent and we figured that they'd at least be gunning for 70-80 points this season.

As for Calgary, we're still fans - just gotta put that 16-5 record into perspective: 9-0 vs the Central Division, 3-3 vs the Eastern Division, 1-2 vs the BC Division, and 3-0 vs the US Division. Hopefully the Hitmen take care of business this week, and then go out east next week looking for a little payback.

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Those ratings are scewed

by Pepper Carrot

I wouldnt read that far into them. He counts OTL's and SL's as regular losses. Where in reality and league play those are the exact same as a tie a few years ago.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 11:08 AM

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Which means what?

by No dog

That you're a fan of a team with multiple OT and SO losses? Also, did you mean the Massey ratings are skewed or screwed?

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 11:21 AM

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Its a combo word :)

by Yes dog

Kinda like "shart" or "spork"

Fact is that OTL and SL gives you a point in the standings just like a tie. With Massey counting OTL and SL as straight up losses make him wrong. Because if the Blades really were 16-6, they would only have 32 points, but they really have 35. They are 16-3-0-3 which is better than the Hitmens 16-5-0-0. Massey makes it seem like the Hitmen have the better record. But the Blades actually have a better record AND winning%. Thus Masseys ratings are wrong and "scewed"

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 11:54 AM

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Thanks

by No dog

That's funny. The real fact is I don't like KFC because of the spork. I'm not sure if that was its origin, but that is where I associate it. Now if they had called it a foon, well...

Isn't it really that most numerical tools for evaulation reveal flaws when such a small sample size is used? The larger the sample size, the more accurate the model, assuming first that the model has merit? Of course it would be the most accurate if a balanced schedule was used.

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I agree

The spork sucks. No thanks KFC.

An average is just that... an average. Your correct in that the more games that are played the better the average will be. This was just a quick snapshot that I put together to spur good chat on this board and it did just that. Please take note that this far there is no name calling and trolling. (yet) It's very interesting to me to read the opinions from all over the WHL on this one. Even more so the chat took on the OHL and the Q too.

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OTL & SL = Retarded Points

by Greg & Barb

It doesn't matter that we're Hitmen fans or anything of the such, becuase even if they were 16-0-2-3 we'd still think the OTL & SL points are stupid.

Not to take anything away from Saskatoon - they're the better team and have more points, but they've left the ice 27% of the time as the losing team. If OTL & SL points are here forever and ever, then we should change the winning% stat to "Points %" because saying the Blades win 79.5% of their games is an improper use of the term.

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don't be so humble

by slim

the blades are not a better team than the hitmen

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 3:07 PM

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Sask vs Calgary

by Greg & Barb

The Blades are a bigger team and have more cohesiveness - on the other hand, Calgary has some very talented gamebreakers. You're probably right that we're selling our guys short and there's probably no way of objectively looking at it other than the 5-1 Saskatoon win a few weeks ago where the Blades really caused the young Calgary D to turn the puck over a lot.

We're still hoping to get to the next game in Saskatoon for November 28 so we'll have a better gauge if the Hitmen match up or are better than the Blades by then. It's kind of scary that the Hitmen have had 12 games on the road already and yet 9 of their next 12 are on the road as well - by Dec 4, they will have played 21 of 36 road games already!

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well hitmen will do better in the playoffs

Even if the blades pull off another nice regular season record.. we all saw last year

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 3:35 PM

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Come on.That is hard to say.

The neatest thing about the WHL is the fact that no team can stay in the powerhouse position for more then a few seasons in a row. Teams can't buy their way to the top here. Any GM with a good plan can build a great team.
That young D that the Hitmen have just might be the thing that the Blades can push on and get by them in the playoffs. Then again the Hitmen's young D could step it up and fill the holes of departed D-men. You never know...

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Makes Sense

by Greg & Barb

Totally true, anytime you have a powerhouse team you're due for a few seasons of the dumps or at best mediocracy. For a team like the Calgary Hitmen, they have a young defence core this year - only one 19-yr old and that's Michael Stone, the co-captain. Two of the D are 16-yr olds and two are 17-yr olds - replacing veterans like Plante, Postma, and Seabrook is no easy task for sure.

It'll be interesting to see if Calgary tries to make a trade or two this year as 8 of their forwards are 19 or older. Combine that fact with that this is Jones' last season and it might be the last gasp for the Hitmen to make some noise before falling in future seasons...

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 4:43 PM

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Did the Spokane Chiefs make a replica Mem. Cup ring?

Or is one of the Chiefs really selling his Memorial Cup ring???

http://cgi.ebay.com/Spokane-Chiefs-WHL-Memorial-Cup-Championship-Ring-NEW_W0QQitemZ320446580130QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Fan_Shop?hash=item4a9c1ac5a2

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Well I'd think making replicas would have been the wise way to go

by hoople head

You never know, they might drop the originals.

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ya gotta win it to drop it

by cranky

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 7:42 AM

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No..... "ya gotta win it to sell it"

Right?

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hahaha

by slim

That's funny either way. I'm sure its just a replica though, if it was someone selling an original that they actually won you think they would make more of a deal about it.. And i'd hope they'd ask for more than 20 bucks.

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Yes

by Chiefaholic

There were replicas made but that may very well be a real one. I can't tell because of the picture quality. But it looks like a real one. I dont think the replicas had the blue and red on them. I have one(a replica) around here somewhere , I'll check into it. I thought the real ones actually had each players own name on the side of the ring as well. I could be mistaken though.

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WOW

IF that's a real one someone is selling it dirt cheap. Interesting. Maybe you guys should buy one for Mr. Beach so he'll fit in better in the locker room.

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on a serious note i think beach has fit in great

All the guys seem to like him, and him and wahl really seemed to gel right away.. interesting because wahl played a part in the whole "bam" incident lol

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Surprised me too

I didn't expect Beach to have as much success with the Chiefs as he has so far. Makes me wonder who got through to him that he should just play hockey and let his skills do the talking for him.

Honestly I'm thinking of buying that ring though and giving it to Beach when he's in town. It'd be a good $20.00 gag gift.

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Everyone in the Canes organization said Beach is

by canesrock

a great teammate. Also when he wants to he can be a great player. Last year when he came to the Canes he absolutely carried this team on his back for about the first 10. Then he started playing with less effort and by playoff time was a complete bust. If you get the good Beach all year you will be very happy.

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Real rings have players name and number i believe

by Anonymous

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That's what I thought as well

by Chiefaholic

But you can't tell in the picture if it has either. I would imagine if it was real it would be being sold as one particular players Memorial cup ring.

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Birds 4 - Bruins 1 (nm)

by Welcometothecircus

Okay since you looked anyway, nice win Birds!

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I think it means he jacked him up about 4 or 5 good times

by brawler

LOL

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 4:30 PM

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Post meant to respond to baddersanta below....nm

by brawler

nm

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Liambas interview

by slim

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/juniorhockey/article/722061--cox-devastating-ohl-hit-shakes-hockey-world?bn=1

i wish he would appeal the suspension really.. It wasn't even a dirty hit just a terrible result... i hate branch

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I'm just glad that Branch....

by Trav

isn't in the WHL. The game of hockey would be ruined.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:37 PM

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branch...

by hoople head

from what I understand of the guy it seems his highest ambition in life is to fetch Bettman his morning coffee and to maybe pickup after his dog when that's done.

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dont forget the odd reach around nm

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Game is ruined already

by Marsh25

Talked to Punch McLean last night & he thinks the game is ruined. There is no open ice hits & the game is all about speed with no emphasis on tough old time hockey. Couldn't agree with him more.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 2:48 AM

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but but but

by Some_Arrogant_Jerk

bettman said it was never better!!!!!

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there's no open ice hits?

news to me.. i think punch mcclean may have drank a little too much of that creek water

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Re: there's no open ice hits?

by phc24

so the game today is as aggressive and physical as ever? i think you can understand the gist of the comment posted previously. the game isn't nearly as physical or entertaining as it used to be. that isn't even debatable, imo.

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I agree....its night and day.....nm

by brawler

nm

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I still don't know enough about the players to say one way or the other definitively...

by hoople head

But after seeing the incident a few times I will say it's not a squeaky clean hit. He did turn his back at the last second technically making it cfb. I'll also say this though, the kid probably had his eyes on his skates for 30-40 seconds prior getting pasted, he wasn't looking out for his own safety one iota. I've seen 10 year olds more aware on the ice than that kid.

The mere technicality of the player turning his back at the last split second and the horrid outcome warrants some kind of suspension. And look at him level that other guy with the cross check to the chops, that warrants at least 4 games imho. But a whole season... this kid's history has to be taken into consideration but unless he's the second coming of sean avery then a lifetime ban is way over the top.

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Best quote

by HawksFan4Life

Erie coach Robbie Ftorek.

"When I played you went into the corner and you had to protect yourself," he said. "Over the years people who weren't able to play the game changed the rules. Now when we go into the corner, I have to protect you. That's not the way the game is supposed to be played."

Branch either couldn't or didn't make it in hockey, so now he is pussifying the sport so people like him can keep playing.

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The Giants

by jimbobed

are about to become the benfactors of this latest edition of the Edmonton Oil Kings charity road show. Steve Pleau has created the best thing to come into an opposition building (for the opposition) in the WHL. Need a slump broken? Bring on the Kings (ask Kamloops), your powerplay struggling? Bring in the Oil Kings (Chilliwack 4 for 6, Kamloops 4 for 5, Calgary 5 for 6,) your penalty kill blows? Bring in the Oil Kings - worst pp in the league and currently getting worse. Forget Kamloops firing a Coach with a record better than .500 - "giving up too many shots" (although I have never, not once, ever, seen that stat as meaningful - it's kind of like leaving runners on base; so what?)- I think the Oil Kings are winners of one in ten and that was against the high powered machine from Seattle, who along with the Cougars may be the only 2 teams with fewer goals for. The same Steve Pleau who believed the way to beat Calgary was, wait for it, with no forecheck. Not 2 men, not 1 man, but none. And for an encore he takes career wingers and tries to make them centers and then demands that they support the D on a breakout...???Lifetimne at center? You get to try wing. Shoot left? Go to the right side. Rookie? Powerplay. Undrafted? Top 6 ice - or Captain. Undersized? top 6. It's as if he thinks (like a few other Americans I am afraid) he knows beter than everyone else. His way or the highway. What was it Bonner said about Smith? He tried to make the team fit his system rather than build a system to fit the team. Are you listening Steve?
Bob Green must be wondering why he extended this guy as well. Not one good player has been made better buy this organization. He's too busy giving border line WHL'ers the ice. And don't even start with the Keegan lowe thing. It looks to me like their development (the better players) has actually been retarded instead (slowed down, not the other) and now that he has turned prospects into suspects that's all he has - suspects. Something has to give. Just watch. It'll be a player. If it is, nothing will change.

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Re: The Giants

by ManFromCouv

Giants played in Tri on Friday and Spoke last night. The Spoke-Van commute isn't pretty. The schedule-guy needs his head examined to have the Giants come back and play at home 19 hours later. Edmonton may get an easy two points tonight.

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Your constant whining about Steve Pleau...

by Pig Face

Why come on here and repeat yourself endlessly?

We get your dislike for Pleau. It is apparent from your regularly-scheduled weekly criticism of him, whether the Oil Kings are winning or not.

I suspect very few Oil King fans or WHL fans agree with you.

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Pleau is my favourite WHL joke

by CalBrandon

The guy couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag. Funny I read things in this thread that are exactly the things I have heard before. He thinks he is Roger Nielson out there by doing things differently. But the truth is he manages his time outs like crap he consistently makes coaching decisions that lead to him being worse off then he is before and he blows gaskets constantly distracting his bench. I actually watched this guy berate a goalie at the end of the bench after pulling him one game. I laughed cause the kid was playing ok and there can't be much constructive between the curses and the slap upside the helmet. Anyone who would suggest this guy knows how to coach should really take a good look. Edmonton has kids come in that seem to be talented and they just never get the potential going the way you would think. They should fire him and Rock head immediatley and right that ship. They won't and I can't figure out why but there are real coaches out there that should send Edmonton their resumes.

Keep up the good work Pleau I laugh everytime I get to see you in Calgary. Every league needs a clown and the village missing this idiot must have got real boring.

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Right on!!!

by wondersaloud

I wish Bob Green would get rid of both Pleau and Rocky too! There are some really talented kids out there, that are not being coached to their potential. The team has had a tough go with injuries and illness, but really. I've seen midget coaches do a better job on the bench. They both, it seems, have no idea how to really handle the players. I feel bad for the boys, they are the ones that have missed out these last 3 years, especially this year!

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Pleau

by bobloblaw17

haven't seen anyone quite as animated as Pleau since the days of Constantine turning purple in the face.

I really think the stress is getting to him.

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You have to think Pleau's days are numbered if

by canesrock

his team does not turn it around right away.

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Portland attendance

by BruinsFan19

Did they have a special promo last night or something? 8700 fans is impressive!

I looked at their other games though and they've been between about 1500-3300. Just curious what happened last night.

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game was against Seattle

by CanesFan17

Hawks - T Birds games are good draws in both cities. Earlier in the year when the T Birds played in Portland, there were 4000 plus ... then the next night against Prince George only 1500. Hopefully the people in Portland start going back to the games ... they have alot of talent and are a fun team to watch.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:00 PM

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Was this the game Hawks fans were going nuts over ...

by brawler

When Mucha supposedly was ran or elbowed? Who ran/elbowed him and is there any video of it? Suspension coming?

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:48 PM

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Nevermind...looks like it may have been against the Giants

by brawler

On wednesday?

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:58 PM

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Mucha Getting Ran....

by knightblade

I don't think Hawks fans were so much upset with Mucha getting hit, but it was the response from the team that everyone got up in arms about. Mucha got smeared, was prone on the ice for about thirty seconds and the team stood around like nothing happened. Not exactly an insipring show of teamwork.

I'm no Seattle fan by any means (I have a hate-the-T-birds-gene just like any good Hawks fan) but last night Brad Ross skated by Pickard and bumped him. Pickard went down, not injured or shaken or anything... and it took exactly five seconds before Ross got pummeled for his effort. Penalty or not, score of the game be damned, THAT is the way a team should respond to a goaltender getting hit!

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 5:07 PM

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This is the way a team should respond

by AmsForLife

to their goalie getting ran! All the American's found a partner even if they didn't match up well!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSPLjbLf1kM

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 5:16 PM

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Uh, oh...

by No dog

Slim and Crow should be here any minute.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 5:21 PM

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Totally agree.................

by CHIEFS-COP

And we keep him as a 20 instead of someone that can skate and play both ways.

Yes, I realize I'm pumping gas to the bus that has already left town..........just think it's gonna be a decision Speltz regrets.

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 5:58 PM

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fail

honestly choosing letts or donaghy it didn't really matter... Letts is honestly a more valuable player offensively than donaghy at this point.. 20 points in 60 games vs. 24 in 72 last year.. A big boy to put in front of the goaltender on a checking line... people act like donaghy was lighting the lamp or something... 1 assist so far this year and 1 fight? woopity do. Letts will be back this weekend give him a chance and then speak on it after 5-10 games.. don't let who you personally favor or know more get in the way of what was actually not a bad decision for the team. I don't think this will be something speltz regrets, choosing what hard hitting 20 year old forward thats gonna put up 20 points for you isn't a make or break thing...

and i agree thats how you react when your goalie gets ran you match up and lose every single fight

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:36 PM

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What were the matchups?

by crow

I would like to see the "matchups". Who fought who?

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 9:49 AM

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look to be

Donaghy vs shinnimin

Reddington vs messier

Letts vs plouffe

Koper vs macek (sorta)

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 3:44 PM

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uh...it's called SKATING...the primary skill in ice hockey...it all starts from there...nm

by speedkills

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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:44 PM

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A for effort F for end result

by HOMER

I noticed that too and chuckled.....Yams reacted accordingly to a blantant running of the lesser pickard and then the chieps ended up winning the fights...YIKES

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 1:21 PM

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And did you notice nothing said about the events leading up to it

by brawler

when they decided to rehash it???

This is how it all went down in sequence.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUjrPD_I1X4

But yes...the Ams got wooped in both cases. But props to them for standing up and taking the beating for the LAST goalie ran. It had to have been hard knowing what happened last time was about to come again. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUjrPD_I1X4

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 1:28 PM

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ross and pickard

you make the call if this is running the goalie.
http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/88381

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 5:58 PM

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Run, no

by No question

Slew footed him? NO DOUBT! Cheap a$$ play by Ross.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 6:09 PM

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Getting "run"....

by knightblade

I wasn't trying to say that Ross "ran" Pickard.. my point was there was contact (incidental or not, it's not really the point)... The goalie went down and there was an IMMEDIATE response. That's the way it should be.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 7:48 PM

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Re: Run, no

What video were you watching? that was totally accidental contact he tried to get by pickard and they caught skates no harm done.

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I don't think it was a run

by AmsForLife

it was more of like a slew foot. I am pretty sure he could have avoided him or even stopped. It was nothing like the running of Chet though. I think that if a goalie is run then the goalies team needs to take responsibility and make sure the other team will understand it won't be tollerated.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:00 PM

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Re: I don't think it was a run

by Rattlesnake

The problem with that statement is that no none on the Americans could let the Chiefs know it would not be tolerated, I think Letts could have taken on the whole Tri team that night

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:05 PM

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Re: I don't think it was a run

by Rattlesnake

I meant no one on the ams or none of the ams whichever way you want to read it lol

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:06 PM

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still living in the past i see

by cranky

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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 7:45 AM

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LOL come on now Cranky :)

You shouldn't be one for criticizing others for living in the past. I notice your signature photo was conveniently missing from that post

And aren't you the one that brought up a Kneeing penalty earlier this year that Mike lee committed about 8 or 9 years ago? And Isnt one of your favorite people to bring up and criticize Jason Beeman for the elbows he thru over 5 years ago.
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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 9:49 AM

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accidentally caught skates LOL!

by No Question

rrrrriiiiight. intentionally slew footed the seattle net minder.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:04 PM

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2 mins for diving....

if they called it slew footing, then pickard should have gotten 2 for diving. he got touched, he dropped. good acting on his part. he could be a silvertip in no time if he keeps that up.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:47 PM

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He has an accidental elbow too then

by juva

Elbow didn't make a lot of contact but clearly was raised during the drive by. Nice to see Warg take care of it on the ice so Mr. Ross can have a new appreciation for carefulness while skating by Mr. Pickard.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 9:43 AM

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OMG...

by HOMER

it's Bridges....ok, Ross could have done a bit better avoiding Pickard but that was a big time flop by Calvin IMO. Kudos to Warg for popping Ross but I've seen much worse when it comes to goalie runs.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 9:54 AM

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Dash For Cash night.

by ManFromCouv

Lefty was on his knees out there topping-up his pension.

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:54 PM

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The night of O/T's & S/O's

6 of 9 games tonight ended with extra play. WOW!

Rock On AMS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB-wmOYelnM

Back 2 Back U.S. Div. Champs! WAY TO GO AMS!!!

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:25 PM

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WOW! Chris Francis Pulls a superman and saves Portland!

Hat trick (last one at 19:59 of the 3rd) PLUS he gets the winner in the shoot out!

Rock On AMS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB-wmOYelnM

Back 2 Back U.S. Div. Champs! WAY TO GO AMS!!!

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:09 PM

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by unbelievable

Zalaski was his Lois Lane! What a putz!

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:40 PM

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DId they kiss? LOL! nm

nm

Rock On AMS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB-wmOYelnM

Back 2 Back U.S. Div. Champs! WAY TO GO AMS!!!

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 10:17 AM

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let me quote

by nwkid

the famous professor Hubert Farnsworth of futrama

(in reference to losing a bet on a horse race that was reviewed with an electron microscope) "You changed the outcome by measuring it!"

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:12 PM

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Caron pumps Gogol.....Blazers win 5-3

by KBF

nm

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 9:54 PM

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KBF is happy again...that is good

by bcdfan

Blazers could ride their goaltending to a division title. Unbelieveable again tonight. Battle of the 16yr olds has McColgan bettering the Blazers Smith both on the ice and at the faceoff circle. Two teams with horrible D with the Blazers goaltending doing a better job of bailing their's out. The Blazer faithful were loud and happy tonight, good for them.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:31 PM

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Just like players, fans can't get too low and can't get too high....

by KBF

Honestly we should be beating the Rockets in any case. But the confidence has been so low with the team that even though barely squeaking out a win against a mediocre Edmonton team and a Rocket team who is ok it's nice to game by game start rebuilding that lost confidence.

Rocket's D is terrible, but it's not nearly as bad as the Blazers. The whole entire defensive structure is completely broken and ZERO signs of looking better. Completely wretched as everyone seems oblivious to how to play in their own end.

Nyren is a complete and utter disaster back there. A 20 year old making 16 year old mistakes game after game. He doesn't ever get to watch from the press box which is mind boggling as the guy doesn't seem to ever learn from his mistakes. If the Blazers can improve their defence they very well could pose quite the threat against anyone in the WHL. At least in the regular season.

And as for Colin Smith, that kid is golden. Haven't seen a young talent like that in Kamloops since Scottie Upshall. Right now he's on pace for 53 points as a 16 year old. Him and Ranford together are going to dominate.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:36 PM

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Kelowna feels the same about McColgan...

by bcdfan

as you do about Smith. Only time will tell. By the way how did you like the non call on the St Dennis offside? Could be said that Kelowna got away with one...lol

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:45 PM

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That was pretty bad......

by KBF

Not sure what the linesman was looking at. Will be fun to watch McColgan and Smith battle it out over the next few years.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:55 PM

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yup, Blah-zers badly outshot again....

by The Prodigy

they can thank their goaltending for the win.

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:21 AM

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lol true...

by KBF

But most of the Rockettes shots weren't anything to write home about. Blazers had the big edge in scoring chances and really that stat is what matters most.

Btw who are you again? Just decided to make up this handle to use it for the day? The Blazers should beat the Rockettes this year so really this win shouldn't be much of a surprise if only cause of the **** way the Blazers have played this year but skill alone should win them games against them no problem.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:53 AM

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explain why the Blazers should beat Kelowna?

by BadderSanta

Not sure why that is true.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:31 AM

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The skill up front should be able to.....

by KBF

Expose the weak D of the Rockettes. Kelowna still plays with much better systems and play more as a team right now than the Blazers do who still have so much more work to do. I think right now the Rockets are still the team to beat but the Blazers with the skill they have should be able to do some damage but of course we all know around these parts how most of the time that never comes to fruitation. Maybe should isn't the word I should of used. Maybe they should beat them more than they lose to them.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:56 AM

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the blazer d

by whf

is really weak . If the blazers did not have timely goaltending there record would be worse than it is despite the foolish placing in the chl rankings early.

they have some good fowards but this team is going nowhere at seasons end.

they may finally may get a first round playoff win ,but that is only due to a weak bc divison.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:07 PM

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They got more than "a few good forwards"

by KBF

Shattock, Stretch, Ranford, Smith, Wiebe, Trask, Willick. But yeah doesn't matter how much talent you have up front if you don't have the horses or even 1 horse like the Blazers don't you aren't going to do much of anything.

And yes winning a playoff round against a weaker team or not is a HUMONGOUS STEP in the right direction and should be considered a winning season for us lol.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:12 PM

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kbf

by whf

i just read this on your site a few minutes ago..
you wrote.."If we had a number 1 D-man and played a better structured defensive game we could be probably the best team in the WHL".

your joking right? your team is nowhere near talented enough to win the whl with or without one great d man. if you believe that you are delirious.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 4:33 PM

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not relaly

by Some_Arrogant_Jerk

if the blazers got a number one defenceman, they would probably be one of the top 4 teams in the conference...given the offence clicks. I loved the way their team plays, especially their forwards Not only do they have skill but they play tough hockey, which is what I expect and often get out of the pats, but not the same depth of players with a combination of speed and skill combined with toughness.

The Blazer defence left something to be desired though, hence the Teubert proposals(though if he keeps playing how he is now, hes without a doubt staying in a pats uniform this year)...and its still early so who knows who will end up where...

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 11:03 PM

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Blazers get a #1 Dman...

by bcdfan

then he would be put in the same position as Barrie with the Rockets. That being trying to hold up the other members of the D. The Blazers need 3 good Dmen while the Rockets could use 2.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 2:06 AM

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but...barrie isnt a number one defenceman

by Some_Arrogant_Jerk

Hes a 'man' but he certainly doesnt play much 'defence'. Decent enough puck mover though.

Im talking Teubert(at least how hes playing now), Hamonic, Cowan, that Connauton guy, and perhaps a couple other names could be thrown in there. A player that can others can rely on to do the job and provide that calming influence of having one of the best players in the league behind them.

They got some good players on their defence right now that just need their confidence back. Nyren and Maschmeyer are skilled enough players and Stebner can do a little of everything. Pair a Cowan type with Nyren and thats a frightning pair.

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Comparisons

by BadderSanta

Now I dont think either team is very good but;

Goalies- You yourself have said Brown is one of the top int he league, let along the division and Guggenburger when he comes back is a very good goalie. Your comments about Kamloops goaltending speak for themselves.

D- crappy both ways

F- I am not really sure Shattock (1.37 PPG), Stretch (1.29), Ranford (.86), Smith, Wiebe (.79), Trask (.62), Willick (.67) are any better than

Novotny- 1.16 (ppg)
St.Denis- 1.00
McMillan- 1.75
McColgan- 1.21
Callahan- .84
Bloodoff- .75
Bulmer- .69
Chickie- .63

You like to mention what pace guys are on and looking at the current numbers I dont see how the Blazers are supposed to beat all these teams. Dont get me wrong, I am not saying Kelowna will be making any noise its just the Blazer hype I dont get. To me every team has guys like the ones you mentioned other than Smith and Ranford. Kelowna has McColgan in that category. Last week you thought the Blazers were a joke and said Kelowna will finish ahead of Kamloops, things changed in a hurry.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:55 PM

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You're right in some ways....

by KBF

But the fact is alot of teams do not have 90 point players like Shattock and Stretch. Wiebe is a 60-70 point guy and Bubnick if he keeps it going should put up the same. I think there is still a very long ways to go yet before we can say we are "out of the woods". Over the long haul those guys you mentioned with exception to Novotny the rest are unproven offensive players and would not put them with the Blazers best forwards.

The talent is there I'm not sure what you are seeing or not seeing. But the structure, coaching and the defensive side of the game is not anywhere near up to par and that's the reason for their poor play.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 10:06 PM

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Regan sure doesn't run to his computer to update his blog

by KBF

When the Rockettes lose like he does when they win.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 7:35 AM

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Kinda like how you run to your computer

by The Prodigy

after the Blah-zers win.

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:17 AM

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true

by amybellweather

All is well in Blazerville KBF is now happy,but when the next losses come he will AGAIN break his leg falling off the wagon.Look at the stats 45 shorts againest and you are HAPPY. A very poorly played game by both teams. Lets wait and see when Kelowna gets its 2-20yr olds (defence) and their other Euro

I do like this Smith kid a pleasure to watch

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:27 AM

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2 20-yr olds and a Euro?

by Greg & Barb

Where is Kelowna going to find 2 20-yr old defencemen this season? Are they going to give up some youth and trade for one like Doyle from Swift Current? Besides, aren't they saving a 20-yr old space for Guggenburger if he ever recovers?

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:46 AM

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Guggenburger

by amybellweather

Do you honestly think Guggenburger will be in Kelowna by Christmas (Not a chance) Why would you keep a 20 yr injured goalie when Brown is a better goalie GET REAL. And yes there will be 2-20yr old defensemen available,any team who is out of it by then will gladly give theirs up for a draft pick.As well as a Euro from Finland. (you heard it 1 st on here)

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 1:52 PM

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not likely

by hoople head

There have been a number of clubs that were only a defencemen or two away from being memorial cup contenders. Moose Jaw and Saskatoon both had some powerhouse clubs that probably could have taken the league if only they could find a couple of solid d-men but it never materialized. Why? Because when you have solid d-men you hold onto them like they were gold. Not only that there aren't going to be too many clubs that are going to give up on a playoff run by the deadline. I doubt that any club out east will be holding a fire sale... The last place pats are only 6 points behind the tigers who are second in the central. The central might not be home to many good teams but other than the hits they are all pretty equal. The canes, Ice, Oil Kings, and the rebels, there's no way in the world any of those clubs are going give up on the playoffs. Realistically they could all make the playoffs and they are all expected to by their fans. The cougs might hold a fire sale but they'll probably shop around the east teams, not a division rival.

You are correct in that the rockettes are probably only 2 d-men away from making some noise but that's like saying you were only 4 numbers away from hitting the jackpot on the 649. I'll go on record and say the tigers could take the league if say... Teubert and Elliot were to join the club tomorrow. Is that likely to happen? Right after Jessica Alba starts answering my phone calls (stuck up bitch that she is, thinks she's all that).

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 3:14 PM

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I post win or lose

by KBF

But I wouldn't expect you 2 to pay attention to that. Btw all is not well in Kamloops as they still gave up too many shots to a lower skilled team like the Rockettes. Still a TON of work to do yet.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:54 AM

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Thats true

by Pepper Carrot

You do post your comments on the game despite the result. Alot of the times people say stuff like that without realising that its completely false. KBF understands that his team will lose some games. Regan doesnt.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:12 AM

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It sucks to be me

by KBF

Because if I post about how lousy the team is playing or is I get told I'm a bandwagoner, when they play well and I point it out I'm a bandwagoner there's no win situation for me.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:53 AM

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You

by amybellweather

got that right A TON OF WORK TO BE DONE WITH THAT TEAM Good thing they have 2 good goal tenders

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:01 PM

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so says

by hoople head

the fan of the team that just got beaten by them.

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Well if poor Amy was at the game or even listened to good ole Regan

by KBF

That would tell you that most of the Rockettes shots were generated on the PP.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 3:30 PM

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well

by amybellweather

the problem with you KBF you are so far up your a$$ and so pissed at Regan that most of the time you don"t know what you are even saying. One day you want to get rid of the coach,players, owners and when you win 2 games against 2 bad teams you come on every board to tell us all how many goals and pts all the blazer players will get

REALLY WHO GIVES A RATS ASS?

I know you will come on here and give some lame and smartass remark about what i have said but every one know it is the truth.It is about time you became a fan of Hockey. A good civil discusion is great but to be obsessed with Regan Bartel is nonsense

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People like you are unbelievable

by KBF

lol you put words in people's mouths and twist things to your own demented logic just so it suits you. So are you saying I should bash the team even when their play is starting to improve? You call me this bandwagon fan, but you are putting me in a lose-lose situation. I'm not afraid to say it when they are playing like ****, and I'm certainly not afraid to point out the positive. I think that there proves I'm a fan. Do you honestly believe my mind has changed on management and ownership cause I posted some good things about a win?

What were all the boards that I posted of how many points all the Blazers would get? You mean what the players are on pace for currently between now and the end of the season on the BLAZERS BACKDRAFT?

Who really gives a rats ass? You do sweetheart otherwise why are you taking the time to try and start trouble and then have the nerve to talk about having a "good civil discussion" when clearly you have zero intentions of wanting to have one.

And yeah, Regan Barftel is a complete idiot and so is that donkey that does pbp with him. Kirk Fraser is Harry Caray compared to those 2 dolts and that's saying ALOT after having to listen to Kirk's ass kissing crap the last couple years.

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Welcome to the board Amy

by hoople head

I haven't seen this username around so I can only assume that you are new. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It is interesting however that you would know so much about KBF already considering you've only been posting here for a day or so.

hmm....

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Yes you

by amybellweather

are Right I haven"t posted on here before,but have been an avid hockey fan for years and have read all the posts on here and other boards.I will say I enjoy all of the post (even yours) lol because they make sense.This guy KBF is just like the weather never know what he is going to say. Just posts to raise hell..... me thinks. And yes I do read the Kamloops board, there are some people on there who know what they are talking about and know the game. KBF is not one of them

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ONE

game does not make a season

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that's right

by hoople head

And the blazers and the rockets both have a long ways to go. I'd say the rockets have just as tough a path to travel and have a few of the same problems.

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What does "Pump" mean?

by BadderSanta

Watching the video of the fight, I cant see what you mean?

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/88380

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 4:21 PM

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It means getting in the better shots and winning the fight

by Pepper Carrot

In the video, Caron pumped Gogol with some good ones. Though it wasnt ALL Caron, Gogol got a few good ones in himself, but id definately give Caron the win.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 6:02 PM

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Blades win a nail biter tonight

by Pepper Carrot

In a very ironic fashion. It was just last night that the Pats came back from a 3-1 lead to win 4-3 in a shootout. Well tonight the fortunes were reversed as it was the Blades this time who were overcoming a 3-1 deficite to win 4-3 in a shootout. After a very high pressured first period. The Raiders cranked it up in the 2nd. A few defensive errors and it was 3-1 after 2. But going back to their game plan in the first was a wise idea. Siemens would eventually tie up the game with a blast from the point. Gallimore and Boyer score in the shootout both going high glove on Flette.

**Fight**

Siemens VS Yaworski - off of a draw these 2 go at it. A really good lenghty fight. Siemens landed more solid shots so he'll pick up the win. But Yaworski hung in there and landed a few of his own, great fight. Funny to note that these 2 were teamates not only early this season but last season in the Sherwood Park AAA system.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 9:27 PM

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thanks for the recap.

by Pazman

6 wins in 9 days! good job blades.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:16 PM

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Does Donaghy get into a fight in the first

by canesrock

10 minutes of tonights game? I will take bets he does.

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 6:41 PM

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not by playing swift current lol

by Some_Arrogant_Jerk

they dont have any fighters, except for big bad mike brown...at least hes the guy stuck with having to fight.

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 7:31 PM

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Donny took a bad penalty on his first or second

by canesrock

shift and has rarely seen the ice since. Canes were up 6-2 1/2 way through but now is 6 - 5 mid point of the third.

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 8:34 PM

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where did you see that

by Anonymous

there is no penalty minutes for #12

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:11 PM

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from his chair at home....................

by shushu

like the rest of the true blue canes fan...........

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:47 PM

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Had season ticks for 15 years SHU so keep the

by canesrock

peanut galary comments to yourself. Not buying them this year had nothing to do with the team being weak OK.

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:51 AM

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The announcers said he was getting a penalty

by canesrock

at about the 4 minute mark but it looks like it was Braes who got it. I was busy and only caught snippets of the first period, so my bad.

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:53 AM

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World Juniors. Who's goin to selection camp in the dub?

by Scottlake

Who do you all think is going to go the WJC from the dub? Any suprise invitations?

Being from Tri, I think we have two potential invitee's.

Brendan Shinnimin and Adam Hughesman.

Scott

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 7:18 AM

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Hopefully the Hitmen have 3

by Greg & Barb

The two that attended the summer camp (Martin Jones and Brandon Kozun) and one who should have been there (Michael Stone).

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 7:53 AM

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Hughesman might go as might Reddick

by RW19

But they won't be on the team. Adam's got his points mainly by being on the ice with Lazo and Shinnimin. Shinny has an uphill climb as it's a 19 year old's tournament. His time is next year. He'll have a chance this year simply because of all the 19 year olds staying in the NHL this year. Spokane will probably have 3 or 4 guys gone this year.

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None of the Americans

by NYR14

you mentioned will go. We are talking elite talent, like mostly first rounders and Hughesman has been passed up in the draft once already.

"Otto needs 2 B inflated"

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:15 AM

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Re: None of the Americans

by Greg & Barb

Shinnimin will at least go to the selection camp though he's going to have to put on a show if he wants to make Team Canada.

Sergei Drozd will probably represent Belarus at the WJHC Division I tourney in Poland in December, won't he? (he did last year)

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:36 AM

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Re: Hughesman might go as might Reddick

by amsfan

I would say shinniman has fed off hughesman and vise versa, there is magic in the air, lazo has gotten his points from the other two

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:26 AM

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Re: World Juniors. Who's goin to selection camp in the dub?

by Toswammi

Jon Keen just bloged he thinks Eakin will make the team. I have a hunch if he keeps up his play he will get an invite, but in order to make the team he will have to make it as a third/forth line player that can kill penalties.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:45 AM

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Worked for Sonne last year

by Greg & Barb

Brett Sonne might have been lighting it up in the 'dub last year but he took on a checking role in the WJHC and made the roster that way. Eakin could easily do the same this season - just a hunch, but the coach of this year's team might have seen Eakin in a game or two in his career...

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:00 AM

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Scottlake...

by bobloblaw17

nice comment about how you enjoyed seeing Lazo throw an elbow!
Is that what they call sportsmanship in Tri?

QUOTE "by the way did you see the sweet elbow Lazo threw at gallagers head early in the second"

http://www.network54.com/Forum/627302/thread/1257608237/last-1257615218/Last+night+and+the+unlike+Don+Hay+effort

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 5:20 PM

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Re: Scottlake...

For this post, I award you no points.

But thanks for stopping by, Mr. Officer.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 1:49 PM

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classy post...

by bobloblaw17

you may make the Regan Bartel Hall of Fame for applauding an attempt to injure. Great job...

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:23 PM

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Id consider Willie Coetzee

by Some_Arrogant_Jerk

Always liked that kids game, and it looks like hes started clicking offensively. |Might not make it, but deserves a shot.

Maybe Beach?

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 7:56 PM

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A lot of players deserve a shot...

by Greg & Barb

...but only a handful of the 'Dub's best get a chance. Here have been the breakdown by league for the last 3 Team Canada selection camps:

2009 WJHC 38 Players (18 WHL; 11 OHL; 5 QMJHL; 4 NCAA)
2008 WJHC 37 Players (15 WHL; 13 OHL; 7 QMJHL; 2 NCAA)
2007 WJHC 39 Players (13 WHL; 15 OHL; 8 QMJHL; 3 NCAA)

One fact that might work against the WHL is that only 12 players received invites to the summer evaluation camp (and 2 of them, Kane & Myers) are playing in the NHL and won't be available for the WJHC.

Here were the 10 who attended the summer camp and should receive invites:

G - Martin Jones
D - Jared Cowan, Travis Hamonic, Colby Robak, Colten Teubert
F - Jordan Eberle, Scott Glennie, Brandon Kozun, Brandon McMillan, Brayden Schenn

Gotta figure that maybe only 3-5 more players in the 'Dub will get invites. Is Coetzee one of those top 3-5 players who will get their ticket? What about Eakin, Shinnimin or Cunningham? Will Desjardins choose a Med Hat Tiger just because he can? What about defence - will either Stephan Elliott or Michael Stone get a call?

There's so few spots open, but this is why Team Canada is just that damn good!

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 8:55 PM

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I chose Coetzee as a "surprise"

by Some_Arrogant_Jerk

the 3 you mentioned probably wouldnt fill the 3rd line/4th line support PK type role given to them. They would be competing for a top 6 role and I doubt those guys crack that group.

That being said, actually theres lots of spots open. Out of the top 6, only Eberle and Hodgeson are back. Cormier is back and the rest are gone. Teubert and Ellis are the only returnees in defence and no goalies. Who knows who will stick?

Schenn is probably in there, and Cowans pretty much got a spot locked down this time if hes healthy. The rest...who knows? Perhaps Hamonic and maaaaaybe Eakin but thats it.

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 9:18 PM

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Tyler Shattock

by KBF

He deserves as much of a chance as anyone.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:08 PM

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will willy choose a tiger?

by hoople head

I think the question would be 'can' he choose a tiger. He's just a first year head coach there, and while he'll obviously have a huge say in the final roster I doubt he'd be able to grease the wheels enough to land a tiger in the roster. The only tiger having enough of a stand out year to bear any consideration is Cameron, and he's 20 and not eligible. Willy is known for standing by players who have worked hard to earn their roster spots, leaving them in when most coaches would have benched them. But the key word to that sentence is 'earn' and there's no way any tiger could earn a chance at that roster.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:10 PM

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Good Point

by Greg & Barb

Good point - some of the pull will be Desjardins and some will be Al Murray and it'll be interesting to see which guys out here get the call for sure but you're probably right that there won't be any Tigers. So far Murray has been in Calgary 2x so we know he's been checking out Hitmen - it's a 19-yr old tourney and Calgary does have some decent ones. Anyone know any other games and players that he's scouted as of late?

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 6:56 AM

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Does Brandon really have a player called Wheaton King?!?!

by napes

Not sure if anyone has posted about this. Ridiculous. I love it.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 1:08 AM

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Not sure if this was posted either

by RW13

water is wet.

J/K man.

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 7:01 AM

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Must have missed it. n/m

by napes

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 1:51 PM

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I did mention it awhile back

by Pepper Carrot

But its worth bringing up again

i cannot imagine anyone elses name being closer to their club team than Wheaton King. His middle name is probably Brandon.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:09 PM

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yes and he played in Portland a few weeks ago n/m

by WinterHawk Terrance

n/m

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 9:19 AM

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Yes

by speakmymind

New to board and yes a Wheat Kings fan. I would like to clarify that Brandon does have a guy on the roster named Wheaton King...if he is a player remains to be seen. Brother to Sanford and there are alot of similarities. Wheaton has had 1 fight which Sanford would never do...still remains if he is any better...personally I still consider him nothing but a Midget, Junior A player at best. Time will tell.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 7:32 AM

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It's a miracle!!! Blazers win 6-5 in ot against Oil Kings

by KBF

I for one am in a state of shock of the amount of heart this team actually showed. Down 4-1 to the Oil Kings, and then controlled the rest of the game. Plan the Memorial Cup parade.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:31 PM

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I'm sure the parade route will go past the dump...

by hoople head

But it's pretty early in the season to be writing anyone off or writing anyone into the finals. There's only one club that is written in and that's the wheaties.

There's still alot of talent on the blazers, they could make some noise yet.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:37 PM

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Cant believe it

by BadderSanta

By the way you describe things, this is huge. Miracle workers, good job Blazers

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:05 PM

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BadderSanta...who do you cheer for?

by AmsForLife

Because your post is completely stupid and you sound a bit jealous.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:16 PM

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Former Blazer season ticket holder

by BadderSanta

nm

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:33 PM

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lol you are?

by KBF

Yeah Santa always tries to give a reply to my posts and thinks that I can't pick up on his cheeky little responses.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:34 PM

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yes

by BadderSanta

My husband and I are now live in Vernon and still make it to most Kelowna and Kamloops games.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 11:34 PM

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Ahhh, actually I think I got an idea who you might be

by KBF

nm

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 12:08 AM

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Btw kinda makes me feel stupid

by KBF

If you are who I think you might be, were always a very nice person as is the rest of your family.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:07 AM

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"Plan the Memorial Cup parade."

by RocketFuel

I really hope your joking.

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 1:55 AM

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Re: "Plan the Memorial Cup parade."

by jc

your dumber then you look

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 1:57 AM

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Bishard.........time for a new parade route map........lmfao.....nm

by cranky

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 7:09 AM

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Seriously?

by KBF

You haven't posted on here since like the beginning of summer and this is your comeback post?

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 8:44 AM

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Seriously yes

by Berwyn Minor Hockey

that was the best he could do.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 12:21 PM

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Wheaties shut out for 1st time in over 2 years?

can that stat be true? if so wow

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 8:29 PM

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Very interesting if true!

by hoople head

Consistent club the wheat kings. I have nothing but respect for that organization.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:29 PM

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Cant stand Kelly Mc

but can he ever build a team and draft....

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:40 PM

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I believe it was 190 something games mention

by kaptain

On the post game show�friday night.

KAN JAM the slammin'jammin'disc tossin'game.
Brandon Sport and Social Club
http://www.brandonsports.ca

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:07 AM

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Giants getting their butts kicked in Tri City (4-0 after the first)

by N. W. Bruin

This could be ugly by the end of the game.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 8:15 PM

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5-0! 2nd

by H0ckey07

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 8:18 PM

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8-2 Final. NM

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:14 PM

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Crap...(not because Tri won)....

by thekan

but, we play the Giants tomorrow, and I'm sure Hay will have the troops ready after this loss.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:37 PM

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Yeah, you'll probably get a pissed off bunch tomorrow.

by Ams1fan

You know Hay will be challenging his boys for a better performance.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:51 PM

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I was laughing about that very thing

We beat the hell out of them badly and then send them up to Spokane to take out their frustrations.
Should be a hot game in Spokane!

Rock On AMS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB-wmOYelnM

Back 2 Back U.S. Div. Champs! WAY TO GO AMS!!!

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 12:37 AM

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and spokane's got no one to deal with Mr. Bouma

by cranky

he's in lethbridge.........................

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 7:11 AM

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Has to be Don Hay's biggest margin of defeat as Giants' coach

by N. W. Bruin

Six goal difference. Can't think of any other defeat worse than this.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 8:28 AM

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must be...

by bobloblaw17

I can't remember any recent beatings like this.
Seattle really had the Giants number about 4 years ago, and Kelowna, I seem to recall smoking them about 6-1 or something 4-5 years ago, but nothing recent.

Hopefully Caldwell or Drinnan dig up that stat.

It still only counts as two points lost, so its not like an extended losing streak......yet. haha

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 9:32 AM

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Atleast

by brawler

They probably wont have to ride here with their gear on...but I bet it wasnt a pleasant ride with Hay starring all the way through the back of the bus.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 9:37 AM

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ya...

by bobloblaw17

not sure how they liked the hot dog from 7-11 for their post game meals though...(kidding)

Sure be a good one tonight though. I may have to miss it unfortunately, unless i can figure out how to record the webcast. Or buy the archive.

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all I could think about was

by JanTaylor

bag skate, but then I remembered they had to play tonight!!! Hay was not a happy man last night. But neither was the starting goalie.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:34 AM

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Tucker only got to play...

5:05 and gave up 2 goals in 5 shots. He got the hook quick!
Jensen was in for the rest of the pounding and gave up 6 more. In the 2nd he gave up 2 goals in 3 shots (The AMS only got 3 shots on goal in the 2nd). Not sure his night went any better!

Rock On AMS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB-wmOYelnM

Back 2 Back U.S. Div. Champs! WAY TO GO AMS!!!

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 1:10 PM

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Giants

by KBF

Lost 6-2 to the Rockets last year
6-1 to the Warriors in 2008
Also lost 8-2 to the Ams back in 2007

And as for the Ams, they've had the Giants number the past few years. The Ams are 9-4 against the Giants in the past 3 years.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:18 AM

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9-4 in 3 years?

I'm sure your right but it sure seams like we barely hang on vs the Giants of course in the last 3 we have been doing great.

Rock On AMS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB-wmOYelnM

Back 2 Back U.S. Div. Champs! WAY TO GO AMS!!!

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 1:13 PM

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Here are the scores....

by KBF

09-10

5-3 Ams
8-2 Ams

08-09

4-3 Giants
5-3 Ams
6-2 Giants
3-1 Giants

07-08

4-1 Giants
8-2 Ams
3-1 Ams

And an obvious big mistake on my part, I must of double looked at some of the games. It's actually 5-5 between the 2 teams the last 3 years.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 1:20 PM

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Letts is the one that still wants a piece of Bouma

by brawler

Hes made it very clear.

So now you'll just have to wait until your new favorite player Letts gets healthy. LMFAO

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 8:53 AM

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letts has to catch up to him first

by cranky

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 5:38 PM

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just because donny got traded

by slim

doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to give letts crap in multiple posts. Wasn't his decision

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:05 PM

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Letts has never been one of Crankys favorites

by brawler

Show me one post where he has ever had anything great to say about Letts.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Donny. You are spinning his motives. LOL

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 11:24 AM

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Careful Cranky!

You might "coast" into someone spinning you out of control. We wouldn't want that now would we? lol

Rock On AMS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB-wmOYelnM

Back 2 Back U.S. Div. Champs! WAY TO GO AMS!!!

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 4:55 PM

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Yep thank God we had Shinniman to keep him in line!!

Steve

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 2:09 PM

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LMAO...nm

by speedkills

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Speedy
-There is a great need for sarcasm font.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 12:37 PM

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Heshka goes to the show...

by MikeS29

http://coyotes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=505071&navid=DL|PHX|home

"Yeah, well that's just like your opinion, man!"

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 1:23 PM

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Warren Shymko

by Off The Post

Is he still on the Kelowna Rockets Protected list ? I noticed he has be called up by the Moose Jaw Warriors to back up Brandon Glover as Jeff Bosch is out with an injury. Is he now on the protected list of the Warriors ?? Anyone know ???

From Discover Moose Jaw Website:

Warriors Battle Tigers, Flu

The flu bug is causing some major concern inside the Moose Jaw Warrior locker room.
A number of players are under the weather, and while no cases of H1N1 have been confirmed, the team is taking every precaution.
The virus is a different strain of the flu, it's no different than anything else, said head coach Dave Hunchak. We're doing our very best to keep players out of the hospital.
While the team prepares a game plan for the Medicine Hat Tigers, who visit the Civic Centre tonight, they're also putting together a plan to defeat the sick bug.
Well we take it easy, get lots of sleep, and make sure we eat well, said Hunchak.
Goaltender Jeff Bosch will miss the weekend with an injury. The Warriors have called up Warren Schymko from the Saskatoon Royals 'Junior B' squad to back up Brandon Glover.
Puck drop Friday night at the Civic Centre goes at 7:00.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 8:02 AM

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I don't see him on either teams list...

by bobloblaw17

From Alan Caldwells' site.

These lists were posted in the summer, so obviously things may have changed.

Moose Jaw list

http://smallatlarge.blogspot.com/2009/06/2009-10-prospects-moose-jaw.html

Kelowna list

http://smallatlarge.blogspot.com/2009/06/2009-10-prospects-kelowna.html

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He was on Tri City`s List back then !!!!!

by Off The Post

In Alen`s writeup of the Propects he was with Tri City: He was Drafted there in the 5th round (97th overall) in 2007

http://smallatlarge.blogspot.com/2009/06/2009-10-prospects-tri-city.html

But he was traded to Kelowna and then Kelowna released him to Yorkton of the SJHL. It was so late that he could not catch on with any team except for the Saskatoon Royals (Junior B).

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 11:11 AM

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Re: He was on Tri City`s List back then !!!!!

Shymko was cut by the Terriers and set to Junior B.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 8:33 PM

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not whl

by wardenofthepen

is it snowing in whistler yet 3 month away

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:48 PM

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Re: not whl

by bcdfan

Not sure that I understand that. When the party is over or when you wake up, whatever comes first, you might want to explain yourself all over again.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:46 PM

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Re: not whl

by Think he is talking about the Olympics.. nm

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:06 AM

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My bad...n/m

by bcdfan

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:20 AM

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whistler

by bobloblaw17

Here, you can see for yourself...

http://www.whistlerblackcomb.com/weather/cams/whistler/index.htm

I wouldn't worry about snow in Whistler.

The local mountains, like Cypress http://www.vancouver2010.com/cypress-mountain/
which hosts the freestyle skiing and snowboard events are a different story, as they can get alot of rain depending on the freezing level.

I'm sure they will be fine though.

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Red Mountain was awesome

by brawler

Man....you canadians sure know HOW TO PART'EH. Do they still have the T-bar up there? They should give you a breathalizer test before your allowed on...heh heh j/k

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 11:13 AM

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yup, winter is here.

by hoople head

Norquay has been open for a few days now, Sunshine is supposed open on nov 11 (although the staff and their friends are already on the slopes there) and lake louise is supposed to be open soon too.

Oddly enough however I miss summer.

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 3:59 PM

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probably because...

by bobloblaw17

you don't have your Tigers to go watch and forget about our sucky Canadian winters.

Fortunately I'm heading way south real soon!!

Do they have a junior team at all in Banff or are you watching the Canmore team?

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The Canmore Eagles??

by hoople head

Eww... no I'm not watching them. You don't know how great it is to watch even a poor WHL team when all you've got is a bottom feeding AJHL team. When I get the hockey bug I drive into Calgary and make a day of it. Banff may be cool but you can't even buy a damn pair of socks here, so whenever I raid the wally world in calgary I try to make it on a day the hits are playing.

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 6:18 PM

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Flames,Heat & Bruins get H1N1flu shot before others?

by dub-fan

Calgary Flames,Abbotsford Heat & Chilliwack Bruins jump line to get H1N1 Flu shots before general public ! Of course all parties are denying it ! Thoughts ?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/11/05/bc-chilliwack-bruins-swine-flu-vaccine.html

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 8:59 PM

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Anything to get the headlines..

by bcdfan

that is a sure paper seller. Sick. I wasn't in line, anyone else here that was?

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:07 PM

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Seems okay to me

by BruinsFan19

Only 11 of the Bruins got vaccinated so it doesn't sound like a planned thing. Those vaccines expire 24 hours after they're opened so at least they weren't wasted.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:24 PM

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He could have phoned a children's hospital or an old folks home...

by hoople head

But let's make sure the precious bruins/heat don't have any holes in their line ups. Good on the 14 who were morally upstanding enough to not accept it. To the other 11, hopefully they take a slapshot to the kidneys.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:34 PM

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Well hoop

by brawler

That aughtta get a good debate going. LOL

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:52 PM

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Do you know Chilliwack at all?

There is no children's hospital and the town shuts down on Sunday.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:57 PM

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Yeah there's nobody he could have called

by hoople head

He could have phoned any hospital anywhere in the vancouver area and easily found people who actually need it. Hospitals don't close. No he just wanted to help the home team.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:01 PM

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How would he have gotten it to a Vancouver area hospital on a Sunday afternoon?

Short of driving it there himself? He got approval from the President of the BCMA first too.

And patients in most hospitals have already been vaccinated anyway.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:07 PM

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lol

by hoople head

So there are no couriers, taxi cabs, or even vehicles in vancouver?

It would have been a breeze to get that vaccine to someone who actually needed it. Three or four phone calls would have been all it took. And I don't care who authorized it, it's still a bunch of crap.

This is a simple case of taking medicine from children, pregnant women and at risk people and giving it to those who need it the least just for selfish entertainment reasons.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:13 PM

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Okay

Clearly you have your opinion about it and I have mine.

I'm just glad it was put to use instead of thrown in the garbage. Working in the health care field I've seen lots of the serum end up getting tossed because it expired. That sucks.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:16 PM

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just another example

by hoople head

of how badly this has been handled. Kudos to the bruins who turned it down, I can't say that enough.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:21 PM

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Just throwing a "possibility" question out here......

by brawler

But in your opinions could there be a possibility that those players refused the vaccination simply because they didnt want it? I do know some people, quite a few, that dont want any part of the vaccination. I've heard of some that are more afraid of it than the flu itself.
How do you hoople, or anyone else know for a fact that these players turned it down to be righteous so to speak? I'm just asking here...trying to throw some more aspects/different light on the subject thats all.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:36 PM

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well I don't

by hoople head

Whatever their motives what they did is IMHO the moral thing to do.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:41 PM

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We were advised by two nurses that you

by JanTaylor

should not get the H1n1 shot. It was made too quickly to determine side effects and this is just flu, made into a huge thing to distract from other things. Remember last year 35,000 people died in the US of flu, this isn't any worse than that, we are being fed a bunch of hog wash.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:39 AM

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This is all blown out of proportion

by bcdfan

There are risk groups, they have been identified. If you can get up with no problem and drive or walk to a hockey game as you have been doing for the last 20 years or so you are not at risk. You can wait for your shot that will be coming along shortly. This is not a panic for the public but has been witnessed by the Victoria Grizzlies of the BCHL it might be wise to get the shot if you are in contact with the same people on a regular basis. Hockey teams I believe (my belief only) are at risk.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:34 PM

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so that's how we decide who get's health care

by hoople head

If you can't walk your ass down to the hospital tough beans?

Hockey players aren't that important. If they aren't in the risk groups, then they can wait until mid december like the rest of us.

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 3:43 PM

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funny all this BS...

by bobloblaw17

about the poor hockey players being at high risk blah blah blah.

My kids are in a school surrounded by 1500 other snot nosed kids and they are not getting shot, let alone the teachers or travelling salesmen for that matter.

And what about the ticket takers at the door, how many viruses to they get passed their way on game night?

If it were the Quebec Nordiques jumping the line all these clowns would be jumping down their throats!

I think the Orca's have taken a much more reasonable approach by paying for the shots at a private clinic while on a US road trip.

I also think its typical Burke/Sather arrogance to think their Chilliwack Bruins don't have to wait in line...

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Where did Burke or Sather go on the record saying that?

by BruinsHockey

I'm guessing the Giants and a few other local teams got the vaccine as well.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 4:22 PM

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read again...

by bobloblaw17

I said "I THINK", I didn't say "THEY WENT ON RECORD"...

So first its denial, then its because they are hockey players and now its ok cause the Giants and a few other local teams got the vaccine???

For the record,if the Giants did get it, I would rip them too. But it was the Bruins that got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, not the Giants, or the Surrey Eagles, Burnaby Express or Richmond Sockeyes...

And isn't it coincidental that Burke owns two of the teams that jumped the line???

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You said you think, you still implied that Burke and Sather think that. nm.

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nnnm

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 4:50 PM

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its pretty obvious...

by bobloblaw17

by their actions that they feel the Leafs and Bruins are more important than the actual high risk people.

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:02 PM

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I would guess Burke and Sather had no idea the Bruins got it

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:04 PM

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or the Leafs...

by bobloblaw17

LMAO good one... haha

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:13 PM

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Seriously...

How would they know while they're in New York and Toronto? I doubt Porter called them up Sunday evening to let them know.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:19 PM

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I'm guessing...

by bobloblaw17

you also think its a miraculous coincidence that the Flames and Heat both got shot...

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:23 PM

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Nope

Just finished reading an article about how a Flames rep approached someone working for Alberta Health about getting the vaccine for the Flames and their families. That's a little shady but I don't know what the rules were in Alberta at that time.

The Bruins were approached by their doctor, not the other way around. And only 11 of them got it so it clearly wasn't planned or all of them would've had it. Therefore, I don't think Burke would have known ahead of time.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:28 PM

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But thats just it

by brawler

A "guess"

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:43 PM

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So today...

I work at a doctors office. One of the last patients of the day was scheduled to get her H1N1 vaccine. We had no open vials so the doctor had to open a new one. We were begging people to get it so that we wouldn't have to throw out the remaining 9 doses. We asked the few remaining petients in the office if they wanted it (high risk or not). We went to a few neighbouring offices to see if anyone there could use it (none could). The nursing homes in the area have already run their own clinics so they didn't need it. We ended up giving it to a couple of kids who weren't in the high risk group but we still ended up with 7 doses left over that will be expired by Monday. I would way rather see them used by a sports team than in the garbage.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:03 PM

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strange...

by bobloblaw17

about the nursing homes, cause one of the doctors said seniors don't even need this vaccine, they are not at high risk with this flu as it targets young kids etc.

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Yeah but nursing homes always have a different set of rules

Just to protect themselves.

And it's not that this flu doesn't attack seniors. It's that there was a flu sometime in the 1950's (1957 maybe?) with a similar make up to this strain so most seniors have already been exposed to this strain and therefore have built up the correct antibodies.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:32 PM

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1976...nm

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:36 PM

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Prior to that

I think it was the Asian flu in 1957.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:40 PM

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whatever, already had it

by hoople head

I was sick for a few days, fever aches, pains and then got back up on my feet. No big, it's just like any other flu if you're not in the risk groups. Too bad little nancy prima donnas like ignila and phaneuf can't man up.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:36 PM

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BS i dont believe that for a second nm

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WRONG

by charleyincharge

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33294842/ns/health-swine_flu/

Many, many people getting very sick and dying are perfectly healthy. Thankfully, the death rates are low and not higher than any other seasonal flu. But if you think you are only in danger if you have health issues then you are wrong. Perfectly healthy people are getting very sick and/or dying because everyone's immune system reacts differently and in some their immune system overracts, fills their lungs with fluid in repsonse, and they die.

I personally think those working in the arena who can expose large amounts of people should get the shots before the players. Can't blame the players though or the teams for tyring to protect their interests. Blame lies on those who let them cut in line.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 1:11 PM

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alot of people would disagree with you

by hoople head

like the chief public health officer of canada. There's a reason why those under 6, those with underlying health concerns and those who are pregnant are given priority. For the rest of us the risk from h1n1 is very low.

And no, those who work in arenas can wait like the rest of us. It's no different than working in a school or working in a restaurant.

And yes you can blame the players. If iginla was running out of a burning building and knocked over a pregnant women would he be to blame or would people make excuses for him? They could have easily said no, give it to someone who needs it more. They know full well what's going on. But they took the typical pro athlete attitude which seems to be take, take, take and never give back.

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Re: alot of people would disagree with you

by charleyincharge

I didn't disagree with you that the there is a low risk of death with this flu or that some people are at higher risk. Your claim that there is no serious risk if you are healthy is not correct. You are right the players could have said no as I am sure you would if you had skipped to the front of the line. But you've already had the swine flu and lived so you are an expert. BS

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:18 PM

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the percentages are pretty low if you are healthy

by hoople head

And no, I had been sick for the last 3 weeks, and you aren't supposed to be vaccinated if you have any symptoms.

I have to say you guys are pretty selfish to expect hockey players and hot dog venders to be vaccinated over the at risk parties for your own enjoyment.

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:27 PM

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Re: the percentages are pretty low if you are healthy

by charleyincharge

Who ever said that? Again, arguing with yourself. Projection much.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 7:53 AM

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me?

by hoople head

You're the one who finds it hard to believe when someone claims to have been sick in the last three weeks. Considering the number of people down with the flu I find it hard to believe when someone says they haven't been feeling ill. If you honestly feel arena workers and hockey players should get the shot in front of those who need it most then you're just being selfish and greedy. Making sure your friday night entertainment stays intact is not as important as the safety of a four year old.

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 3:35 PM

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Hitmen are owned by the Flames, chances are that they got the shot too. nm.

by BruinsHockey

nm.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 4:44 PM

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possible

by hoople head

What does the news keep saying... the flames and 150-200 personnel and family? Flames family, coaching staff, hitmen and borders... would be about right. Not that we know one way or the other and thus shouldn't throw around accusations...

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Re: me?

by charleyincharge

When did I say arena workers should get vaccinated before those at the greatest risk? Yet again, you are fabricating things in your mind for argument's sake. I said:

"I personally think those working in the arena who can expose large amounts of people should get the shots before the players"

Read it again, let it sink in.

Those frequently in close contact with large amounts of people I would like to see vaccinated before the rest of us who are not at greater risk or not potentially going to expose thousands of people (like most professional hockey players). Does that make sense? Should I even bother asking?

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 6:53 PM

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no

by hoople head

Your average wal-mart greeter is going to come in close contact with way more people than an NHL hockey player. You have to be within 5 feet of someone to risk coming in contact with the flu as per what health canada has been saying. When will poor little iggy ever come within 5 feet of thousands of fans?

You know that, it still boils down to you being self centred enough to want hot dog venders and hockey players hale and healthy for your entertainment over those who need the vaccination.

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I stole the Lindbergh baby too

by charleyincharge

For the fourth time, I have never said I want players or arena workers or players vaccinated before anyone at a high risk. You have to be more intelligent than you let on. I think your Wal Mart example is good one though. People with the potential exposing large amount should get vaccinated before the average recluse like myself. I DON'T SHOP AT WAL-MAT. Just tyring to pre-empt your next ridiculous, fabriacted, imaginary accusation.

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and what you still refuse to admit

by hoople head

Is that the flames and other hockey clubs jumped the line over people who are at higher risk, pro hockey players practically live in a bubble. The closest they come to actual contact with fans is waving at them when they board a bus. They are at about as much risk as an astronaut about to fly a moon mission. You said it yourself, someone like a wal-mart greeter is in higher risk than most, but you still gloss over the fact that dorks like phaneuf and iggy jumped the line mainly because people like you put them up on a pedestal.

And what's wrong with wal-mart? I shop there all the time. Seriously, get over yourself. Just because someone doesn't want to over pay for toilet paper doesn't make them low class.

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Haha! I haven't admitted that

by charleyincharge

Because you pull conclusions out of your starfish. Obviously I have put them on pedastal since I advocated vaccinating foam finger salesman before them. You're smart.

How did you know about my deep seeded hatered for Wal-Mart? Incredible intuition you have.

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You have put them on a pedestal

by hoople head

I quote "Can't blame the players though or the teams for tyring to protect their interests. Blame lies on those who let them cut in line."

If you were to buy a stolen car stereo, got caught and said to the cops 'hey man, blame lies on the dude who stole it' would that get you out of a possession of stolen property charge? Blame lies squarely on the shoulders of both parties, although those who let them cut the line are the only ones suffering any type of consequences.

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Yeah quite a pedastal

by charleyincharge

I don't blame anyone for trying to get a head to protect themselves and their interests to prevent getting this dangerous flu. It is up to health officials to see that distribution relects the needs caused by a shortage of vaccines. You are delusional. The more you try not to be wrong the more wrong you become. Put Johnny's finger back in your starfish, it would do you some good.

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 4:45 PM

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20+ sweaty boys in locker rooms....

by tipped off

...and playing in front of Thousands multiple times per week. I think that qualifies as a valid reason to be able to jump the line.

Personally this doesn't bother me one bit.

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so they can avoid the sniffles?

by hoople head

Too bad, they can get sick like everyone else. H1N1 is only dangerous to a select group, and well conditioned athletes aren't one of them. Hockey may be cool but it's not so cool that already pampered, spoiled, overpaid athletes shouldn't be able to take medicine away from those that might need it to actually stay alive just so they can avoid sneezing for a day or so.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:39 PM

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think about it for a minute

by tipped off

You are correct that well conditioned athletes are less succeptable to having severe symptoms, but they are carriers like everyone else. So, when the thousands of people are in the arena, breathing the recycled air....do you want the guys breathing hard, putting a lot of germs into the air, carrying H1N1?

Why do you think Daycare workers and Teachers are high priority even if they are healthy and mid 30's? It's not because they need to stay healthy to do their jobs, it's because they don't want them carrying the strain into the classroom

Same concept here. These guys are being watched by kids, seniors, etc... Their playing hard, breathing heavy, sweating, giving high fives to fans (usually kids) leaning over the railing on the way into the locker room.

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lol

by hoople head

Yeah, someone like kyle beach is so much more important than health care workers, teachers, and day care providers. Society will continue to function if your star player has the sniffles. If every doctor, paramedic, teacher, day care provider can't go to work it's a drain on society. If Beach isn't in the lineup the ref can rest his arm and give his whistle a break.

And if you're more than 5 feet away from someone who is coughing and sneezing you're probably ok. That comes right from dr david butler jones, the chief public health officer in canada. So if you're scared of dying from the piggy flu because kyle beach sneezed 200 feet away from you relax, you're more likely to die from an alien anal probe.

Hockey, it's great and I love it but it's just entertainment. No more important than say... the arts and I was just at the banff centre today and I know for a fact nobody was handing out flu shots there.

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the flames aren't denying it

by hoople head

King has admitted that the burn outs and their family members all received the shot. Whoever in the Alberta health care system who provided has been offered up as the sacrificial lamb and fired. King has already stated that he'd like to help whoever was fired find work.

It's stupid, being told you have piggy flu is not like being told you have AIDS or something. For the vast number of people getting H1N1 means a few days of fever and feeling like crap. The only people who actually need the vaccine are people under 5, pregnant women and people with compromised immune systems. Not hockey players in the primes of their lives in peak condition. The flames and the other clubs who did this (I understand there were toronto teams that did the same) are just taking the vaccine away from someone who needs it to ensure their rosters stay healthy.

I always knew that douche bags like iginla were greedy lazy pricks. I never thought he would steal medicine that could potentially save a 4 year old just so he could stay in the line up. I guess dorks like phaneuf and iginla can't handle a little bout of the sniffles.

Good on the 14 bruins who turned it down however.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:32 PM

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stupid that people seem to care so much

by slim

I say they deserve it before others.. Their profession is having their body be at 100% to perform on a nightly basis.. This thing isn't going to kill 99.9% of people that get it.. hell half the campus here at washington state university had it and no one died... the regular flu is more deadly.. This thing is all hype

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yup, protect the ams/spoke rivalry alive at all costs

by hoople head

you already said it, only a small percentage of people are in danger from h1n1, and it's not hockey players. The vaccine should go to those who actually are at risk, not so you can enjoy fridays hockey game.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:41 PM

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this has nothing to do with the ams or spokane

They didn't get the shot... Let's not try to turn a post into another ams/chiefs thing because all most people do is bitch when that happens.

BAsically what im saying is who cares who gets it everyone is blowing it out of proportion because they listen to the mainstream media. It first surfaced and people were FREAKING out and drug companies invested a bunch of money to try to put a vaccine out there. THen it was found to be less dangerous than the seasonal flu but by that time it was too late for the drug companies to take all that money back. So these drug companies feed the media crap to increase the hype... and now anyone getting the vaccine is just playing into the drug companies business plan.. h1n1 is not dangerous simple as that

is it messed up that a hockey team got it first? maybe but if someone needed it that bad you think those in the "risk groups" would have already gotten it.

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it is a bunch of crap

by hoople head

We had enough vaccine for everyone who actually needed it. It's only dangerous to a handful of select few, most of whom can't stand in line to get it.

And no, I don't know what is happening down south of the border but up here it's a bungled mess. Per capita canada had more vaccine than anywhere in the world but all they did was open clinics and say anyone who wanted one could come get one. You can't expect a three year old, a pregnant women or a person with debilitating illnesses to stand in line from 5AM - 4PM in freezing temperatures, but that's exactly what health officials have been telling them to do. You have to be pretty healthy in order to do that so the only people actually vaccinated are the ones who don't need it. Like flames for example.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:20 PM

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i'm sure if a person feels it's life or death

by slim

they will get their ass down to wherever its being handed out and get it

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:22 PM

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be realistic

by hoople head

If you are bed ridden you can't stand in line in -15 temps. If you are 8 months pregnant it's pretty tough to stand outside for hours with no access to bathroom facilities.

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The poster previously known as bandwagonboy

"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:31 PM

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Every doctors office I talk to has the vaccine

You can go to your GP's office and get it without waiting for hours.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:24 PM

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there is a nationwide shortage

by hoople head

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2184143

Just a simple fact. Unless you are a health care worker, a child under 5 or a calgary flame you couldn't get it in alberta this week. Although I think they start vaccinating pregnant women either today or tomorrow.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:39 PM

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Health care workers, children under 5...

Anyone under 65 with a chronic health condition, anyone caring for an infant under 6 months and anyone caring for someone with a compromised immune system. Within a few weeks there is supposed to be enough for anyone who wants it.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:50 PM

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Hey Hoople.

by SpokeForecheck

You keep saying that there are people that need it more than the hockey players. Were those people at the clinic and didn't get treated because of this horrible event in history? From what I understand, the Flames Dr. ordered their shots weeks ago. So they were there for them. The only mistake they made was bringing them through the front door so people in the waiting could see and start crying.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:20 AM

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umm, yes

by hoople head

It doesn't matter what the flames doctor ordered or didn't order. The government of alberta put a freeze on the distribution of all the vaccines until further notice. Never once did it 'belong' to them. This isn't like ordering a pizza. The only people who can legally be vaccinated right now are children under 6 and pregnant women. Guys like iginla and phaneuf while being choking gutless vaginas are neither and therefore should never have got it.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 3:54 PM

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This is getting retarded lol...

by Trav

people and the media are making them look like criminals, who cares if they got their shot privately. It makes the lineups shorter at other places.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:52 PM

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One more thing...

The Bruins aren't the only WHL team to have gotten their H1N1 shots already, the other teams are apparently just better at keeping it quiet.

Funny how no one is outraged about the doctors who take the vaccine home for their families, even though their families aren't high risk people.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:02 PM

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What teams can you confirm then

by brawler

Sources? How do you know?

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:20 PM

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the few I know about...

by hoople head

flames, heat, bruins, leafs, raptors, I'm sure there are lots more. And standard practice has been to vaccinate the high risk patients and their families. My friend's wife is 8 months pregnant and the doc insisted that he be vaccinated as well. Dunno why. It takes like 10 days or so to work give or take, so to minimize chances immediate family is recommended for the vaccine as well. Until monday they didn't have any hard set rules, they just gave the vaccine to a select number of clinics and docs and told them to have at it.

In Alberta they closed all the clinics on Saturday and reopened them to children under 5 only on monday. The flames got their shots after the order came down not to distribute them any more so that's why someone has lost their job.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:29 PM

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Thanks but I was wondering about WHL teams

by brawler

The Bruins fan stated that other whl teams had indeed been vaccinated. I was curious who since they said they knew.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:39 PM

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sorry...

by hoople head

Just posting what I know. I believe you asked which teams got it. I'm thinking whoever dolled out this vaccine and shouldn't have is going to keep very quiet after a high ranking official who gave it to the flames got canned over it.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:43 PM

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Agreed

by brawler

And I definately see some points you are trying to get across as well. Its definately a touchy topic....afterall where are we all without our health?
IMO The ones that piss me off are healthy multi million dollar people...if they take the shot away from people in need they should have to pay a good sum for replenishing....whats it really hurt them? And by god far be it from them to give a little back while they are taking away.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:52 PM

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what... like hockey players?

by hoople head

I don't know why the flames need to be healthy anyway. It's not like they need a full roster to get the crap kicked out of them in the first round.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 3:41 PM

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Yes hockey players to....ANYONE whos rich

by brawler

They are pathetic acting like that imo.

btw,I was LMAO at your calgary statement. Good stuff.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 3:49 PM

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i wouldn't be surprised if the chiefs got it

There was a thing for the whole town at the arena the morning of a gameday maybe the chiefs got it

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:37 PM

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Yankees got it too.

by bcdfan

How else were they going to win?

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:57 PM

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Blown out of proportion

by Greg & Barb

Hundreds of thousands of people who weren't considered "high risk" got their flu shots - someone wants a scapegoat so they're picking on sports teams. Useless story, almost a big a waste of newspaper as the whole flu bug itself.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:05 AM

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and this happened after...

by hoople head

The government put vaccinations on hold.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 3:56 PM

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HIGH RISK????

by CC

If anyone thinks the term "high risk" applies to the risk that pro athletes are taking whilst they make millions of dollars playing a game. And, that they might catch a case of the sniffles and miss two meaningless hockey games... Suck it.

The term "high risk" applies to the three year old kid in public daycare who might DIE from this. Or the nurse with a respiratory illness who CHOOSES to help people for a living.

All pro athletes or anyone outside of the GOVERNMENT DEFINED list of persons at "high risk" who received this shot should be embarassed and ashamed.

They shouldn't be spouting off about how "at risk" they are signing autographs or sharing a shower with other millionaire elite athletes.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 6:50 AM

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flu shots sports teams

by rebel

i dont get what the problem is. i can see why the flames are under scruttiany but the other sports teams aka the leafs, raptors, chilliwak bruins etc. got there shots when there were no guidelines so why are we criticising the sports teams?

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:43 AM

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you may want to

by Dr. Quincy

open a newspaper.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:11 AM

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I'll criticise their arrogance...

by CC

I think that for pro/elite athletes to say they're "at greater risk" than the general public-- as many have -- is crazy and they should be ashamed for trying to justify getting the shots before kids and others who NEED it.

They are at no greater risk to GET the H1N1 virus than the ticket taker at the arena, the Zamboni driver, the hot dog seller, the fan that pays their million dollar salary...

And, they are at much LESS risk than the average person (or, more specifically ACTUAL HIGH RISK persons) to DIE from it.

If they take advantage of a system that lets them receive the shot before most people, then fine. (More people-- like the Alberta gov't employee-- should lose their jobs because of it.)

BUT, don't tell me that they are in a "high risk" group -- like a two year old with respiratory problems would be.

(This post isn't meant as hostility towards Rebel, BTW.)

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:13 AM

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finally, someone with some sense

by hoople head

Thank you.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 3:54 PM

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some sense or just share the same opinion? nm

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 7:36 PM

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are you going to actually add anything to this string...

by hoople head

Or are you just going to keep dropping 'nm' all over the place?

It's pretty clear those who run your club think they're better than everyone else, I'm sorry that fact seems to have burst your little bubble.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 7:59 PM

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you have said ther same things in numerous messages in this thread

I guess you would be happier if these went to waste

These are reasons why i dont have a problem with this

1 didn't turn anyone away to have these left over there was a lower than expected turnout
2 consulted Dr. Brian Brodie, the president of the B.C. Medical Association. They agreed that while the perception of queue jumping might be present, the greater sin would be to see the vaccines thrown out
3 A couple Chilliwack players have asthma, and that automatically made the eligible to receive the vaccine
4 the bruins didn't make the arrangements it was a doctor trying to put the remaining perishable vaccines to good use
5 not all the bruins got it only those who needed it got it the rest will wait till it is available for everyone

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 8:46 PM

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well in that case

by hoople head

'nm'

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 8:52 PM

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Are these performance enhancing flu shots? NM

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:31 AM

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Just bout fell outta my chair bish

by brawler

THAT was funny!!!

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:18 AM

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Joke

by aaAlta

A bear, a lion and a pig meet.

Bear says: "if I roar in the forest, the entire forest is shivering with fear."

Lion says: "if I roar in the jungle, the entire jungle is afraid of me."

Pig says: "big deal.... I only have to cough, and the entire planet ****s itself."

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 2:29 PM

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Who cares

by Mike

the whole h1n1 thing is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY overblown. Yes people are dieing but **** happens man

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:53 PM

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Blazers to hire Brockman?

by bobloblaw17

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2009/11/candidate-for-kamloops-coaching-job.html

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 3:30 PM

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Junior A or not it sounds like.....

by KBF

He has more credentials than the past few coaches that have come and gone through the turn style in Kamloops. Obviously is a proven winner.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 4:09 PM

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what????

by yuri

Actually hire someone who has coached kids before!!!!

Someone who has paid their dues!!!!!

We will see.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 4:54 PM

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Well...

by bcdfan

he is from a Hockey league that over the past few years has proven to be of less talent then the BCHL. That is by no means a swipe at the SJHL but they do have a draft system I believe. Someone help me on that statement? You want to look at a Junior A coach who has been the most successful look no further down the road then Vernon.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 8:13 PM

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Brockman

Extremely compitent, excellent recruiter, and can mold a group of young men into winners.

This guy has a proven background of getting great kids into the organization, making fantastic moves, and most of all winning.

Contarary to the bcfans, comments, the SJHL has no draft. All kids are open to sign to cards so recruiting is critical. As for looking at being a winner, if Humboldt had private money backing it instead public (ie: Vernon); we could recuite and pay for 9 american kids to play in our organization like you guys did last year. The BCHL is crap compared to the SJHL. Look at the rbc totals and cup apperences to back it.

Back to Brockman, if Kamloops hires this guys as their coach! They have hired an excellent motivator and coach. Player jump through fire to play for this guy.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:10 PM

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Re: Brockman

by bcdfan

"Extremely compitent, excellent recruiter, and can mold a group of young men into winners."

That is where it is at in Junior A hockey. I now acknowledge that there is no draft in Sask (been told different). Sell your franchise (and LOCATION)and it is easy to recruit. Every team in the SJHL can recruit, they all can identify the top players but where does top play want to go to? He is free to move around as is the case in the BCHL. No player is going to Williams Lake, Merritt, Quesnel etc if he has a "ticket" to Vernon, Penticton, West Kelowna or Salmon Arm. Out of those 4 teams he can then decide who has the best opportunity for him. Unfair? Depends on who you talk to I guess. Point is, there is no recruiting at the WHL level.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:51 PM

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re:Brockman

by sjfan

This is true that players are readily available to go where ever. But what about out of province players with Vernon. When you guys raped us over on Drew Muench 2 years ago by offering his parents 6 paid trips to Vernon to see their son play all expenses paid, as well as making his car payments for him.

Private owned teams such as your frachise come to Saskatchewan and try to cherry pick our top talent with these outrageous offer sheets all the time.

Dean has build his program by molding players and building winning teams. Vernon bought their team last year. NO IF AND"S AND BUTS ABOUT IT!!!

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 8:32 PM

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Re: re:Brockman

by bcdfan

First of all Vernon is not my team! Far from it. The philosophy of the 2 leagues appears to be much different. As mentioned in the BCHL the players are younger then the other Junior leagues in western Canada. More then a few don't even carry their full compliment of 20yr olds. The mandate in the BCHL is to get the kids on to college and in that respect I think they do a better job then any other league in Canada. As far as Vernon buying their team last year I would agree and I can assure you that that pisses me of more then it does you.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 6:34 AM

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Your thinking of the MJHL

by Wheatie

They have had a draft for the past five years or so...

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:16 PM

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Damn...he got me!

by bcdfan

LTGT always told me the BCHL was best because of no DRAFT. He included the SJHL. The BCHL was the best he said because players had a choice as to where to go. Damn him, is he still around these parts? Need to talk to him again.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:33 PM

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SJHL

by beefdip

No draft, but they do have a listing system. When a kid turns 15 he is eligible to be listed. If 2 teams list him on their birthday, the kid has a choice. This does restrict the players ability though, to play wherever he wants. It is often these players that go out of province.

I do not have data to back it up, but the SJ a little older on average than the BCHL....there are more 16 and 17 yr olds in BC. The SJHL has more guys that have burned their NCAA in the WHL and have returned to play out their Jr years.

Dean has run an excellent program, and is a great person. I have known him for about 10 years, and Kamloops would be lucky to have him.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 7:58 AM

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A few images from last nights game in Spokane

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 12:00 PM

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Seattle fans hit the road for Dash For Cash Saturday in the Garden

by WinterHawk Terrance

Plenty of seats are up for grabs. One of you may win your gas money home.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 3:20 AM

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donaghy to lethbridge.....nm

nm

Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 10:23 PM

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valchar on his way out of leth then? 4 20's now. nm

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Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 10:40 PM

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loading up on....................

by shushu

grit and experience..look to teams that has had success in the past and the players that have made them a great teams....i have to laugh at the canes fans that see reddington as a pile of ****...he is a heart and soul guy that will do anything to win for his team ....hopefully donaghy is the same type of player that we will welcome with open arms.... put sbisa up on the block for a top 5/6 forward to play with fyten on the second line and we may have a team this year.........what can we expect from donaghy spokane fans...............

Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 11:27 PM

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Two way player

by brawler

Can play forward or D. Most comfortable at D but can be utilized as a power forward as well. You may not get much scoring but he'll open up the ice REAL quick when you need it...heh heh. Has good leadership and is one funny mofo off the ice.
You can also expect someone to clean up a few chicklets out on the ice for the next person that #%*&'s with him...LOL

Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 11:33 PM

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what you can expect from donaghy

Probably about a 20-25 point player that hits the absolute crap out of people. 2 way player never had to worry about his effort on a nightly basis like we do with some people in spokane. Much like reddington in that he will stick up for his teammates. Not a ton of offensive skill but a very hard shot.. He's not gonna fool any goaltenders though..

I'd put him in a fight against anyone in this league.. I have never seen him lose a fight and even if gets hit with a couple hard punches he keeps swinging and swinging.. It's to the point where he will challenge and challenge someone it seems like and no one wants to go with him.. this was his 1 fight this yearhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gibjuZ9GlYU

Also quick to jump back to the blueline if a forward comes up on the rush.. Naturally he is a defender and i never quite understood why he didn't just play d

Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 11:35 PM

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If what you can expect is having another one of your guys...

by Wangler

..in the penalty box when you are already short handed, then....

You can keep Donaghy!

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 6:09 PM

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and it seems like we are trading partners

Wanna do 1 more involving sbisa? haha

we have 2 euros right now but 1 is a healthy scratch nightly... i'm not sure what the rules are though about releasing euros mid season?

also who is saying bad things about redder in leth? never heard a peep of that in spokane

Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 11:40 PM

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Re: and it seems like we are trading partners

I think the issue with Reddington in Lethbridge is that he is a #4 defenseman asked to be a number one guy.

Therefore people are going to be down on him because he is asked to play a role that is beyond his abilities.

I haven't heard people complain about him as a person or complain about his effort.

He is in a tough role where the team isn't talented so he has to do too much.

With Sbisa back at least some of that responsibility is taken off his back but he still is going to be put in too many situations where he cannot succeed.

Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 11:57 PM

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what are you talking about bud.......

by shushu

here you go.....
Re: sure, beach too ...for reddington & sbisa
by Igula
You can gladly take Reddington back but I think we'll keep Sbisa.

The Canes could definitely use Beach's 13 points in 10 games this year.

One offensive threat isn't going to cut it for the Canes up front this year.

your not watching the same game that i am with these comments....reddington is a solid blue liner compared to 90% the dmen we have right now....

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 12:13 AM

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Re: what are you talking about bud.......

by Igula

Reddington is solid d-man compared to the guys we have because our defense is weak.

I would rather have a game breaker like Beach on the team because picking up a 4th defenseman like Reddington is easy.

Its great that he gives it his all and tries his best but at some point you have to look at skill as well and he just doesn't have that much of it.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:03 AM

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Give him back then.

by KOHO

I would take him back in a heartbeat. He is not flashy but he does his job and does it well.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:06 AM

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Re: Give him back then.

Well in Lethbridge since he has been asked to do more than his "job" he actually hasn't been doing it well which is my point.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:29 AM

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that's preston's fault...he shouldda know he wasn't getting a fighter

by cranky

get off redder's ass then.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 4:13 PM

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Not much skill....Except

by brawler

Helping teams get to the memorial cup and playing fantastic in it. Maybe hes just still a chief at heart and just doesnt have the edge up there. Send him back.....LOL

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:31 AM

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Re: Not much skill....Except

When he played on those teams was he asked to be the number 1 guy on the PP, PK and 5 on 5?

I don't think he is a bad player but he is being asked to play a role he is not suited for. That is my only issue with Reddington.

In terms of sending him back, yes I would prefer to have one of, if not the, most talented players in the league back on the Canes. A guy who is a great teammate and can help out a team that has one line and only one legit offensive threat.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:36 AM

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glad to..............

by shushu

if the chiefs can put 1 or 2 91 born forwards on the list that can be a 5/6 forward, sbisa coupled with another player would be an acceptable trade to make a weak canes team better now as well as in the future.......ps....thanks brawler and slim for the update on donaghy............. thanks to a few new trades it time for an old fashion ass kicking in canes country......lol....

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Lethbridge fans

by CanesFan17

seem to be really hard on their top defenceman ... they were hard on Ben Wright, Mark Ashton, Brent Seabrook, Phil Cole, Thomas Scantlebury, Jamie Pushor and so on and so on ... all those guys were pretty good junior hockey players.

Mike Reddington has been exactly as advertised. He doesn't do anything fancy, he just gets the job done ... which is fine by me. I have no problems with Mike Reddington, I enjoy watching him play and its nice to have a solid guy like him on the backend.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:47 AM

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Re: loading up on....................

by Jerry

Donaghy is as dumb a player as there is in the dub. Just another 4th line grinder to add to the canes mix of plumbers.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:39 AM

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Donny

by cranky

he'll call team-mates out in the room
he'll bring grit
he'll forecheck & backcheck hard
he won't go looking to start anything but he'll damn well finish it
i'd put him on 2nd line.....he will create room for goal-scorers
and he loves cranky's spam, stewed tomato, tootsie roll, beanee weenee, deviled ham, raw egg white and liver party dip.

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Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:53 AM

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If this isnt part of a bigger deal

by brawler

Speltz got his arse kicked IMO.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 1:15 AM

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my guess is it is...

I'm guessing our 20 year olds aren't staying as spurgeon, letts, and bartman

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 1:19 AM

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could be .........................

by shushu

sbisa ,bancks and who knows what else to complete a deal..time will tell..bancks would be a massive upgrade on letts..........along with another 2 forwards from the chiefs to complete this deal...........time will tell..........

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 1:54 AM

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hmm bancks to spokane? will be interesting to see what happens nm

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gawd then they'd have to dump bartman

by cranky

gotta keep the pylon letts ya know

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 4:51 PM

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Are you suggesting there may be "politics" involved?

by brawler

heh heh

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 5:14 PM

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Politics in hockey? Naahhhhhh...............

by CHIEFS-COP

Did you get dropped as a kid or take too many 'hockeymeister' shots?!?

There are no politics in hockey and parents/money have no say in this league or any other! NO set of parents of kids in this league have enough money or influence to influence the team decisions made by owners, GM's or coaches.

What the hell were you thinking?

And, yes.................the sarcasm in this post is dripping worse than frozen honey.

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 9:06 PM

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lol what does Ryan have rich parents

by slim

Oh wait... Brett is the one with family working within the org....

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 12:37 AM

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Ive seen brett trip over a qaurter to save a dime

by brawler

It doesnt get any tighter than that.....

And money is only halve the politics...In some cases hockey connections can take you alot farther as well. Most dub fans can tell you that.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 9:42 AM

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wait are you talking about bobby brett

by slim

i was talking about brett bartman

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 12:53 AM

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Yea......

by brawler

Usually here in the hockey world we call people by their last names or nics buddy...LOL

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 1:25 AM

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Spokane 20's

Letts, Bartman and Spurgeon aren't a bad group of 20's at all. Not trying to stir the pot or anything but going off of the type of year Spokane has had so far I don't see Speltz trying to bring in a big name 20 yr old, or even a 19 yr old. He did that 2 years ago for your cup run and it turned out great but this year I don't see it being that type of year where you go make a blockbuster trade.

Going by the words of several Chiefs fans (not my personal opinion but what Chiefs fans have posted) you don't have the coach or the goalie to get very far this year. Why would those of you who post how bad your team has looked, how bad your goalie has looked and how horrible your coach is turn around and post that a big trade is/should be coming?

You think Speltz is going to trade for with Vancouver for Don Hay and trade with Everett to get Heemskerk? Again not trying to stir the pot but honestly just wondering what you guys are thinking? Going from ranting about how bad of a year it has been and will be and calling for the coaches head to expecting your GM to make a blockbuster trade. Speltz is a good GM, he won't go and bring in another 1 (I say another because he already got Beach) year player hoping to piece together a run this year. Just wait you guys should be a great team next year going by your roster and prospects, and honestly I don't see you guys having THAT bad of a season this year with the guys you've got already.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 1:40 PM

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For me.................

by brawler

My teams problem is coaching not a question of goaltending or talent so that takes away reason for me thinking of a blockbuster trade right now. We should on paper have a great season this year and unfortunately imo we will lose a ton next year. But now presently I just dont believe Hardy has the ability to take this team anywhere close to what they are capable of. JMO time will tell.....

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 2:03 PM

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Hardy hardly enough reason to give up

by GCG

Is a brutal coach, no doubt, but good god! - to throw the baby out with the bathwater after 15 games is an insult to the potential of this team. I'm sure the Yams would like nothing better than the Chiefs to throw in the towel already, but Speltz just ain't quite that retarded. The Chiefs are very talented, and the goaltending will hold because of the strong D if nothing else. AND - If not for blowing 3 3rd period leads (coaching must be blamed for that) they are 11-3-1 and in the CHL top 10. My point is, when the Chiefs get Spurgy back, the Coaches don't F the game up quite as bad, and they finally get in a rhythm and play more than once per week ; + a trade here or there and it all adds up to the Chiefs being in the Yams and WH's face for the Pennant.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:18 AM

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I pray that you are right

by brawler

But take it for what its worth, believe me or don't....I wouldnt be saying the things I've said if just I only believed them. I guess where I've gone wrong is saying that it is a "present" general consensus that I'm getting...doesnt mean anything cant be turned around. But IMO the fact remains that hardy needs to pull his head out for this to be achieved.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:25 AM

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woops....should read "not saying"

by brawler

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Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:26 AM

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Agree completely

by GCG

But there is reason for hope. He did learn (granted, after squandering 2 games) how to play Vancover in that 7 game marathon, playing their Defense Card almost all the way to the next round. But the random line-ups thing has got to go. I heard Patchin on his show ask Hardy if he ''picked his lines out of a hat,'' and Hardy only half laughed, almost like there was some truth in it. Now combine that idiocy with their lack of games, and how the hell can one expect a team to gell? Hopefully things shoud improve there.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 2:57 PM

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You Say IF and WHEN

See the thing is every team can be great IF they don't squander 3rd period leads and IF they make some trades WHEN they get a key guy back from injury. You can throw IF into any situation and make it sound positive.

IF we played better in Spokane's home opener and IF the Ams had got a goal on Calvin Pickard on 57 shots and IF we had taken Chilliwack more seriously we'd be undefeated right now. However we didn't do any of those things and thus we have 3 losses.

Not trying to say Spokane totally sucks because I've came no where near saying that I'm just going off of what Chiefs fans have said about their own team. Trying to point out to some people that they went from wanting the coach fired and saying how badly the team has looked to expecting the GM to bring in another big name player to make a run. Doesn't make sense to me.

Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:15 PM

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IF and WHEN The Am's take first...

by GCG

you'll get the free pass on gloating... 'til then shut yer Yam Hole.

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 8:34 AM

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LMFAO......

by brawler

Funny shiet right ther......

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:17 AM

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they'll coast in

by cranky

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 5:40 PM

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bringing in a 20 like bancks wouldn't really be blockbuster

by slim

we would have to give up a 3rd or 4th round bantam pick? maybe we could even throw in mike betz if he had any value at all because he is about done with this organization.

Goaltending was an issue but the last weekend and last night it hasn't been. I feel confident with reid or tadj in net with the way the team has been playing in front of them. Honestly i want tim to bring in a 20 year old thats either going to strengthen the d or put up some points.

Yes hardy isn't any good but at some point ( i think) he will set the lines.. Even without that we have won 3 of our last 4 and looked good even in the loss

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 2:17 PM

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Bancks

I'd think he might be a tad bit more expensive than you are thinking. He's a top line forward, granted only this year left, but still. The reason I'd call it a blockbuster for you guys is because he'd come in and be the team leader in Points. He has more points than anyone on your roster currently, and he'd make a huge difference on your team. Wahl, Beach and Bancks (or maybe even T Johnson instead of Wahl) would be one hell of a line for you guys. On that note Mr. Speltz don't go fishing for Carter Bancks please.

One thing I did notice is you guys are kind of lacking in the RW department, going of off the WHL stats. You have a ton of guys listed as Centermen though. Are you missing a true RW or does the WHL site have it listed wrong?

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 2:49 PM

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A lot of centers playing on the same line usually

Kuhn plays with miller regularly and in that scenario miller seems to be the guy in the faceoff circle.. Brassart has played wing on a line centered by bardaro, UHer and crats both are on the wings when they are in the lineup (which for uher is never lately).

How well did bancks and beach work together in leth? because i have a feeling that beach and wahl are pretty set to stay on the same line and rather than plug bancks into a line with koper and johnson.. Some crazy speed on a line like that if koper has no problem playing at rw

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 3:34 PM

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What did Spokane get in return? nm

by fan

nm

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 4:32 AM

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I am starting to feel a little nauseous ...

by Carpathian

First Redders and now Donny! And what is this thing we have with Lethbridge? If they are so good why don't they just keep the players they have and we will keep ours? Arghhhh!!! Ok ... I am better now. But what, exactly, was the price for Donny?

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:39 AM

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Donaghy trade

by CanesFan17

Looks like its Dustin Donaghy for a 6th round pick ... the story is right here ...http://canesbroadcaster.blogspot.com/

Good move for Lethbridge as it was a pick they had already aquired in a previous trade. Rich Preston said he was going to rebuild this team by not giving away bantam picks and so far he's been true to his word.

Donaghy will add some much needed toughness and should fit in nicely on the Canes third line with Sutter and Henke.

A little grit, hard work and leadership never hurt anybody ... looks like another decent move by Rich Preston.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:44 AM

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While I agree with what you are saying about grit etc,

by canesrock

I think for a 20 year old, we should have someone with good skill levels. Get a 18 year old tuff guy. Having said that, this team does need a sh!t disturber banger guy to wake some of the softer players up. We are not playing very tough hockey.

****An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.****

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:01 AM

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very true

by CanesFan17

you do expect alot out of your 20 year olds. In the end Donaghy will be an upgrade over Valchar. I dont know what Valchar is like in the dressing room, but Im just going to guess that Donaghy will bring more to the table in that category. Sure the Canes will give up a bit of scoring by losing Valchar but lately, and I know Valchar has been hurt, he hasn't been producing. Essentially Donaghy will slide into Valchars spot in the lineup on the third line and Donaghy will bring more intagibles and what not to the table than Valchar did. Mike Wuchterl was a valuable 20 year old who didn't score a bunch of points, and I think Donaghy will be able to do what Wuchterl did ... add a few goals here and there, provide a spark with a hit and be able to protect teamates.

Radim Valchar wasn't working as a Hurricane, so Preston addressed it and made a move. Carter Bancks, Linden Rowat and Dustin Donaghy aren't that bad of a group of 20 year olds.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 10:15 AM

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Feel free to send Donny HOME to Spokae ANY time!

by Carpathian

We will take him back in a heartbeat! You are getting a great kid on and off the ice. Rock solid player. Colors being the same maybe he could just keep his Chiefs jersey?

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:29 AM

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Donny will have 3 willing dance partners when they play Saksatoon

by Pepper Carrot

McNaught, Zahn, and Dzuirzynski.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:57 AM

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Well PC.....You better tell all 3 of them to practice falling down....

by brawler

LOL

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 12:10 PM

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zahn and dziurzynski would get embarassed

by slim

Mcnaught may have a chance because of size... Then again i have seen donaghy win against jordan, abney, and hit the crap out of mccolm

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 1:04 PM

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Have you watched Dziurzynski fight?

by Crosby, Staals & Nash

Kid is pretty friggen tough.... Id put my money on donny but him getting embarassed is a pretty bold statement imo

GO CHIEFS GO

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 3:44 PM

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Very true...I've seen his fights

by brawler

And any tough kid can beat another tough kid on a givin night....but if he plans on taking donny a consistant dance partner I dont like his odds one bit.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 3:59 PM

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yes

He beats up guys that are hardly considered "tough guys" because he is good at tieing up their arms and having 1 of his free. SEen him lose a few times as well when he can't tangle em up.. donny would be swinging to much for that to happen lol

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 4:18 PM

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Donny is tough as nails, That is a fact

by Crosby, Staals & Nash

But you could make the same case for him then, When you look at the guys he's fought in the dub most of them haven't been the toughest guys to ever lace up a pair of skates... Abney & Jordan are the toughest tests he's had in this leauge imo & there not really killers...

http://www.dropyourgloves.com/Fights/FightCard.aspx?Player=27608&League=5

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 6:04 PM

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those guys are probably bigger tests than dziurzynski (sp)

by Some_Arrogant_Jerk

If I can remember correctly, this guy got roughed up by 16 year old bell from the pats last time the teams played, while Donaghy is a proven heavyweight. Its a definite mismatch.

Same goes for Zahn. He could probably hang in there, but if hes no better than Teubert, he isnt likely to take out a real heavy weight(at least by todays standard). A guy like McNaught would be the only test, rather than those middle weights.

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 7:53 PM

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I agree

by Crosby, Staals & Nash

Prob is a mismatch for Dziurzynski & donny would most likely win that fight, Him getting embarassed is what im not so sure about, Kid looks like he can chuck em pretty good 2 me.....

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 8:08 PM

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Well they did it again , the OK's snatch ...

by Mooseslayer

defeat from the jaws of victory. The curse of Dumpsville lives on. If ever there was a night when the team from the smelly burg up Hwy 2 would win, it should have been tonight. But alas, the Spirit of Dumpsville comes thru once more. 1:30 away from vistory and Steve "Kitty Bar the Door" does it again and gives up not 1 but 2 goals to lose once more in Calgary on an off night for the Hitties.
Great effort by Lanigan in the Greasers pipes but to no avail.
Oh and by the way-- did you see the Anton "The Cryin' Commie" got sent back down to the AHL??

Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 10:01 PM

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Did you hear?

by Pepper Carrot

When the Blades kicked the Hitmen's ass? Maybe you didnt, because it was awefully quiet in the Settledown when they were doing it.

Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 10:23 PM

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what is moose talking about?

by hoople head

I got none of that. Who beat who, wtf is going on? Is he talking about the 'dub, oilers, AHL? Seriously, wtf?

I believe the cheese is seriously starting to slip off his cracker.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 3:28 PM

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You're putting that nicely

by Pepper Carrot

The cheese is "STARTING" to fall off his cracker?

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 4:20 PM

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well at least he used to be able to speak english

by hoople head

And I was being serious, I have no clue what he's trying say/troll about.

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"Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair and beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 5:49 PM

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You really need to get rid of your obession....

by Trav

with Khudobin, it's pretty bizarre, he's been gone how long? and your still talking bout him. How the mods put up with you is beyond me.

Seek help pal.

Posted on Nov 4, 2009, 10:35 PM

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lol the Mods themselves enjoy pissing it's posters off too funny....