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I was at the Hawks game tonight and your Warriors did not give up at all. Even when they were down 4-0 they played hard and physical all night. You should be really proud of them. Sorry we couldn't give you 2 points but we are now tied for first in the division.

As a side note, Lane Manson is a pretty big guy. Does he normally fight? At the risk of sounding like a Homer, Shane Halifax owned him in that tilt. It was incredible.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:56 PM

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Does Manson always spit on fans?

by from portlane

Real class act ya got there.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:05 PM

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last message "from portland"

by from portland

that game wore me out.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:07 PM

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Spitting??.....all we got from MJ in Tri was squirts from the waterbottle and swearing. nm

by Reptile

nm

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:17 PM

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As he came into the penalty box

by from portland

he spit over the glass at the fans. Then the water bottle and swearing.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:21 PM

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Don't forget

by meh

...dismantling the corner divider in the penalty box and (I think) breaking a pane of glass or something. The penalty box officials called the ref over to remove the destructive little twerp before he tore down the arena.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 12:15 AM

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Naughty Naughty Naughty!!! Waiting for lame excuse from MJ

by About time

Should be some good ones.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 4:37 AM

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Maybe you should get your drunken fans away from the penalty box and

by CCC

get some decent police protection down there instead of one dumb "rent a cop" - possibly built a stronger penalty box - you dont realize how strong Manson is.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 6:40 AM

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Funny...

by meh

Those boxes have held in 27 years of WHL boys. Manson must be the strongest kid in almost 3 decades. (I'd mention the old Buckaroos too, but I assume the boxes have been redone at some point since 1960.)

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 8:35 AM

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Listening on the Radio was horrible.

by Slipster2

It was pretty bad. I heard that Brouwer hit the crossbar again last night early on. I also heard the shots were 12-6 and then 4 or 5 straight PP's for the Portland. I have seen poor refing in this league all season. I guess not just this season but the last 3 or so. I think this is a concern for all teams not just the Warriors. It is defintely something the league has to look at correcting.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 8:49 AM

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MJ had 8 powerplays to Portland's 9

by meh

Doesn't sound that one-sided to me.

It was a hard-hitting game with both teams getting away with rough stuff. The officials let them play but I thought did a pretty decent job of not letting it get out of control. If Portland got several power plays in a row, that means Moose Jaw had to get several straight power plays as well because they only had 1 fewer than Portland.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 9:26 AM

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I have seen it before and I am sure you have also.

by Slipster2

If a team is taking it to another team they will slow them down with some phantom calls. I don't know if that is the case or not. I am stating that the overall image of ref's in this league is horrible and rightly so. It is almost painful to watch sometimes. When you call penalties early in a game like they do espescially on one team back to back to back to back to back it takes the best players on the team and forces them to burn much of the offensive power they have and use it in a defensive role. This slows them right down and can take a team right out of the game. I have seen it both for and against MJ. It is a terrible way to watch hockey.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 10:00 AM

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Phantom calls is just another of your choice words - - -

by CCC

Perhaps you should sit down and read a Hockey Rule Book and you might understand the game a little better. The overall image of ref's in this leaque it only horrible because of guys like you and Curtis Hunt who keep belly aching that it was the referees fault that they lost the game. You say you have seen it both for and against Moose Jaw. The next game you attend, just go to watch the players and ignore the officials, you will enjoy the game that much more. Officials are human too, and do make mistakes, but they are not as bad as you are always whinning about.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 10:31 AM

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First I am not always whinning about the officials.

by Slipster2

Second they are weak. Read a rule book. Come on. Grow up. You are the only one on here that UNDERSTANDS the game. Ok. You can choose to believe that everyone is ignorant except for you. No one could possibly understand hockey except for you and no one can understand poor reffing except you. I understand. It is not us always being wrong but you always being right. Every single fan in this league knows that the refs are weak. That is the way it is. That is fact not opinion. You disagree with that. Great. The refs alter the game more than you are willing to admit. I am not saying they did it last night. I wasn't there. That doesn't mean they haven't done it in the past and won't again in the future.


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I am not the only one on here that understands the game but -

by CCC

I certainly dont blame the officials for every loss the Warriors take. I didnt say everyone else is ignorant except me, you are the one saying that. Sorry, but you cannot speak for every single fan in this leaque so you are basing your "opinion" for what it is worth, on your opinion, not on facts. The refs job is to alter the game - if he see's a penalty, he calls it in an effort to penalize a player for doing what he did. Personally, I think it is a waste of my good time trying to explain some common sense to you anyway - you like to blame the officials instead of the players. I think you are the one that has to 'GROW UP"

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:14 PM

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You are saying the REF's in this league are good.

by Slipster2

Is that correct? I think they have more bad nights than good. Read this board a bit. I don't blame loses on the ref unless the ref was an absolute idiot. I also think it shows some ignorance to think that the refs can't change the outcome of a game with terrible calls. I think they can and do. This is a discussion that I think more fans would have an opinion on this than you think. This discussion has been done to death on here. Most of them coming to the same conclusion: the refing has to improve.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:46 PM

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CCC, the reffing is very poor this year. nm

by Flathead

nm

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 4:50 PM

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Why is it always the officiating fault, when YOUR team loses???

by CCC

You werent there to see it, but just going by how Hunt was whining. If he would sit some of his deadass players out for a while, maybe they would learn to play how he wants them to. Pointing fingers and not doing anything about it, wont help the situation.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 10:19 AM

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I never said it was.

by Slipster2

Calling penalties in scrums is ridiculous. When there are 6 to 8 guys pushing and shoving in the crease you can't tell me it is only one guy everytime that deserves the penalty. Even up calls in those situations send the right message. Why? It tells both teams to stay away or they will both be in the box. Penalize one and the other team will push the envelop all night and take certain liberties with the other teas goalie to force the issue. That is the bad part.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 12:13 PM

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You would make as good a referee as you are a hockey fan - terrible terrible nm

by CCC

nm

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:16 PM

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What is it you would qualify as a horrible/terrbile hockey fan.

by Slipster2

Can you define this so I can respond. Your definition of horrible may be me. If standing by a team whether winning or losing is horrible, I plead guilty. If attending and supporting many of the functions they put on his horrible, again guilty as charged. If buying season tickets every year whether winning or losing is horrible, you guessed it guilty. If dragging friends to games whether they like it or not in an effort to get them involved in the team is horrible, guilty. So please let me know what a horrible fan is.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:51 PM

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by HDH

it would be you but I think they may call you Torrible so they can combine the 2 words. That is how bad you really are.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 3:27 PM

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Re: What is it you would qualify as a horrible/terrbile hockey fan.

by section 215

If that is considered a horrible fan then I guess quite a few of us should be shot. LOL

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 3:39 PM

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I guess they can't put Manson in jail

by Brick Top

Beacuse the Trail-Blazers are all in there.
I seriously doubt the claims that Manson was spitting if he wasn't spat on first. He's not that much of a hothead off the ice.
Are they going to ban all the Portland fans that can't keep their expectorate in their mouths? No one would go to the games.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:40 PM

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He does fight but......

by Ush

he isn't good at it. How were the other 2 fights?

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:05 PM

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manson

by curious

how tall is that kid?? he was a beast?

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:19 PM

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Lane Manson is 6'9"

by bkh

He seems to get under alot of opposing fans skins. He's a very nice kid and pretty intelligent. Hes come a long ways in the last couple of years.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 8:22 AM

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he has come a long ways

by mjwfan

Yes one of the nicest kids u would ever want to meet.
The 1st game that i seen him play ..I thought what is this kid doing out here , but every year he comes out and just gets that much better.
He is not fancy out there , but gets the job done.
Tooo bad there were not more players like him . A real class guy . Go Lane Go .

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:21 PM

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Other 2 fights

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Not trying to be a Homer but I don't remember who each player fought. Funk got in some hits near the end but I would give the decision to MJ player.

Bailey is a lefty and not many players expect that. So he has a nice little element of surprise on his end. Hit the guy like 6 times before the other guy got in one punch. Couple of good punches from your guy but the decision goes to Bailey.

Really good physical, hard-hitting game tonight. Thanks for an 1000th game to remember.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:21 PM

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how was the Patzack and Sutherlin fight?

by ush

anyone?

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:19 AM

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Not much to speak of

by clarkson20

Lots of milling around after the period ended, especially McLeod, Sutherlin and Patzack...Then Sutherlin and Patzack squared off, but there were maybe a couple of punches before they hit the ice. Patzack got an extra two with Sutherlin and matched up with McLeod.

To answer your question, it was pretty quick, not much to report on...

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 9:18 AM

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Olsen calls but Brown runs (again)

by sticktape

Olsen and Brown lined up together at the opening faceoff and Brown backed off from Olsen's challenge. After that, the Ice had nothing to worry about in the physical department and were able to get revenge for their loss to the Blazers last week. Maybe if they meet in the playoffs Brown will show up. If he doesn't I think the Ice will play a lot bigger than they are.

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Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:14 PM

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Are you kidding me?

by Ourboy plays

Olsen wanted nothing more than to get into it with Brown last weekend and Brown wouldn't. After this evenings rematch it is obvious that Brown only goes after the smaller players. The guy is a coward and a waste of skin!!!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:28 PM

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You might want to check out THE FIGHTING MALOR

by HA ha ha

Brown weighs about 185 lbs. and has fought all the heavies in this league, but will only fight the plugs when the game has been decided, just like any GOOD hockey player would do. Some of you Ice fans are giving your TEAMS fans a bad rep as being the least intelligent fans around with comments like that

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:40 PM

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Re: You might want to check out THE FIGHTING MALOR

by Anonymous

Thats one mans opinion (yours).

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:52 PM

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185 is the scale's opinion

by Kamfan

You know better I take it?

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:15 PM

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King from the Rockets 185 lbs as well

by W50

must be some scale as apparently King is 230 lbs. I'm not doubting Brown is about 185, but these sites can be wrong

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:47 PM

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True enough

by Kamfan

But I've stood next to Brownie on a couple occasions and he's not much over 185, if at all (and he seems shorter than his whl.ca listed height of 6'3"). Plus you would assume the weights of guys he's taking on are similarly inaccurate, so it should even out.

Really though? King is 230? Sure doesn't look it. I mean Scott Parker wasn't even 230 at 19 was he? And King is no Parker size-wise.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:07 PM

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185lbs?

by LethbridgeGirl

DJ's 185lbs, according to all figures I've found... not to say things haven't changed since the beginning of the season when our first programs where made with him in them.

Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 10:02 PM

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Seriously if you want a tough guy.......

by Ha ha ha

If you Ice fans want to cling onto a tough guy, you should look no further than Cherewyk. At least he gets it done and is a good hockey player as well.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:01 PM

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Just for the record...

by Kauna

Brownie asked coach Clark last Tuesday if he could go with Olsen and Clark told him not too. Brown was the most dominant player in that game, and why would he take himself off the ice for five minutes with a guy who has two points all season? I commend Olsen for trying to get Brown off the ice, because Olsen knows that would help his team, but Brown wasn't biting. Last Tuesdays game was probably Browns best in his career, and he was much more valuable on the ice than off it.

Brown isn't scared of anyone, and should be commended on learning how to pick his spots better. The kid can't win. If he fights everyone he is an undisciplined loose cannon, if he doesn't fight he is chicken.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:00 PM

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He had feathers on during Sunday night's game ...

by Ice

and kept them on even when the outcome was decided. He wouldn't meet Olson's challenge directly and then wouldn't step up when Olson was laying out other Blazers all over the ice. 3 huge hits on when shift alone after the game was decided and Brown hitailed it to the bench.

The big guy has a job to do and he did it well this weekend. Brown is reputed to have that role with the Blazers and he frankly just failed to show up.

Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 9:27 PM

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roster spot

by x181

Waste of a roster spot?? Ya right Olsen is there to do a job. Not let the other teams take liberties on other Ice players. He played a great game toight, he rocked the Blazers with a great hits on almost every shift he played. He does his job.So BOO HOO to you KBF
Can you say ICE win!!!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:30 PM

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Re: roster spot

by Unbias Fan

I find that hard to believe, the Ice were here last week in Kelowna and Olson is easily the worst skating player that has come through Kelowna and he didn't go anywere near King.

I am not saying Brown ducked him just that he is a horrible player and ahouldn't be in the WHL

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:35 PM

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roster spots

by KIF

You must have forgotten about Sunderman already, or did he not get any shift in Kelowna either.

Go Ice Go

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 8:19 AM

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Re: roster spots

by Unbiea Fan

Olson makes Sunderman look like Fedorov skating......he is just brutal.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:24 PM

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What's with you and Olson?

by G et Real

Seriously, you make him out to be Goliath, He shouldn't even be in this league. He hasn't won a fight that he's squared off in yet, it's mostly seatbelt hanging on and trying to pop a couple lil taps because he has " bad hands". Why in the hell would a top end player like Brown want to leave the ice for 5 mins. with a 4 th liner that gets 4 shifts a game. The first thing that most players say to Olson when he trys to get them to go is " ARE YOU FRIGGEN KIDDING ME, WHO ARE YOU?"

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:18 PM

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For people who know the game

by SASKAT

True, Brown did not want any part of Olson in the game. But why would he? Olson brings absolutely nothing to the game while Brown plays a regular shift including some PP time. I am an unbiased fan so this is not to favor Kamloops but why would Kamloops want to make that swap? Come on now people. Get educated about the game!!!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:48 PM

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RD perspective

by tiny

Saw Brown and Phaneuf go in RD. Good tilt. Both got in good solid punches edge to Phaneuf but no "run" in Brown here. Don't know what provoked it but understand how those two might not like each other.

Quite impressed with Brown's hockey skills as well.

I think the two of them thought it was more of an equal?? loss to the teams with them off at the same time.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 8:20 AM

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Maybe Olson only plays physical at home...

by Kamfan

because he sure as hell ducked Brown at every opportunity last Tuesday. Going into the corners, dance invitations, etc. Every time.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:13 PM

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Re: Olsen calls but Brown runs (again)

by PR

Kudos to Olsen for trying to get an impact player to go with him as he is nothing more than a bench warmer. That would be a great trade off for the Ice, and make no mistake about it - Brown is not going to run from anyone. He fights with everyone and does pretty well.

What made him that complete star of the show last Tuesday was for what he didn't do as opposed to the good things he did.

He could have easily gone with Olsen after the cheap slash at centre ice, but why risk a broken hand with nothing on the line?

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 12:24 PM

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I think you guys miss the point

by stick tape

Yes Brown is a complete player, and yes Olsen is a terrible skater and a part timer ... but last week Brown was physically dominant against the Ice and I believe the Blazers sent a message by putting him in the starting lineup. The Ice put Olsen up against him to challenge him and he didn't respond. Whether or not he was told not to fight doesn't really matter. Brown and the Blazers were effectively neutralized physically from that point on. Even Nigel Dawes was bowling guys over. I think it was a tactical mistake by Brown and/or the Blazers not ot answer the bell.

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And that sums it up perfectly, however the people getting into.......

by Glen

the "my dads tougher than your dad debate" are missing the point. Olson isn't afraid of Brown and Brown isn't afraid of Olson, however no team can allow one player to dicatate the physical flow to a game or what you get is what the Blazer's got, an "L" in the standings.

Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 7:00 PM

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For the record ........

by Realist

There's not one player in the dub afraid of Olson. Not one, because everyone knows about his pillow hands, he is unproven, and he can't skate well enough to manuever. He might be big and if he can manage to time it with a guy in the trolly tracks, he might even get a decent hit in. He would do ok parking in front of the net for a screen, BUT that's it . That's all he can possibly bring to the table.

It's really annoying for people to put this guy on a pedastle, when he hasn't proven a thing. If the Ice players feel more comfortable with him on the ice, good for them, go with that. The only reason people slam this guy is because a few of the Ice fans blow his horn. If they just kept quiet about him, he would go about his business undetected. But with the bragging how big bad and tough he is, people watch for him in other barns and draw their own realistic conclusions by picking out his weaknesses. It's nothing personal against him, it's countering the unwarranted bragging about him.

Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 7:37 PM

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How good is this Durand kid??

by 892

He's putting up some pretty decent numbers and only 16 yrs old. He looks to have good size at 6'2 and 180 or so pounds.

What kind of game does he bring to the rink?? I know he played very well for Team Western at the U17's and lit it up for them as pretty much their only hope up front.

How's his speed, shot, stickhandling, is he physical, etc.

How's he looking for the 2005 NHL Draft?? Top 10 perhaps?

Thanks in advance.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:59 PM

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He's good

by juva

And he hasn't seen 180 in a while. He has great puckhandling skills and a nose for the net. He also has been throwing the body around lately, especially tonight. He will be drafted in the top 10.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:19 PM

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durand

by jose

durnad is playing with metcaf and joner right now though that has to give him some points. is a good player but top 10 is pushing it i think.

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Seattle 5...Cougars 3.... Game over.! n/m

by B.W.

n/m

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:37 PM

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Seattle comes from behind. Yes!

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Seattle down by two goals late in the second, still manages to come back and win it, Woo Hoo! Pair of goals by Johner were a sheer joy to watch. Gibbons puts the game winner in with less than 4 minutes left. Keep it going Birds, you can do it!



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warriors

by munroe

4-2 for spokan so far 9 min left in 3rd
manson got kicked out because fans were bugging him and he went nuts

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:30 PM

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wrong city

by hockey fan

the hawks played moose jaw tonight

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:28 PM

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Where is security?

by how's this!

How is it the that the fans are able to get that close to the guys in the penalty box? Does security just let fans go at the players in the rinks out West. I remember a few years ago a player got in trouble with fans, again no security. Maybe the Hanson brothers should visit this rink! What about the league do they not have rules for the rinks to follow? I know in most rinks you can count on the security to be on a fan is banging or even touching the glass that the fan will be asked to quit.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:34 PM

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Security usually

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does come down and I have seen them remove trouble making fans. I am not sure if they did tonight because I was near the goal. Luke Hewitt gave them a nice little #1 salute earlier in the year and tried spilling water on some of the fans.

There is the penalty box, the glass and then the seats. Unfortunately these are usually "fans" who've had a little to much beer and are not real fans. Stinks for the rest of us.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:23 PM

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Great Win for the Ice

by Peter Rose

Race in the BC division is a tight one. Schedule favours PG I think and they may sneak in ahead of the Blazers. Should be a good one.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:29 PM

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Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:30 PM

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Still 5 games head to head . . .

by Cougar Guy

between PG and Kamloops and 4 with Vancouver. It's not out of the realm of possibility that we could still catch any of the 3 teams tied for second.

It is getting tougher with each Cougar loss though. We have had LOADS of chances to makeup points and can never seem to get over the hump. Have to wonder if it just ins't meant to be for the Cougs this year.

The remaining head to head games will likely decide how our season ends up.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:39 PM

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honeymoon over for Pogge

by just wondering

eight goals in last two games.....will the fans put up with this much longer?

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:50 PM

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At 17 he has showed very well...

by Sec. R

2 things Pogge has to do;
a) block out all the scouts are watching crap, I hate it when the media talks to these kids and add crap they don't need.
b) stay focused for 60 minutes. Until he does, his consistancy will continue to be shakey.

PG has had tough luck in attaining that goalie that will make the difference in the close games, but Pogge could be that guy next year, as long as they don't screw his confidence up for the future.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:30 PM

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NOT AT ALL . . .

by Cougar Guy

17 year old rookie goaltender on a team that has given up the second most goals against in the league. He has a 2.70 GAA and a 0.903 save percentage.

NOTHING wrong with those numbers in my eye. Frankly speaking, I think he has been one of the many positives for the Cougars this year. Rookie goaltenders WILL make mistakes. Give him time. For the most part, he shows a great deal of poise and confidence for a 17 year old designated as the number one. He will be an exceptional goaltender in this league in the seasons to come.

Any Cougar fan who thinks Pogge is a problem for us should be getting their head examined IMHO.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:47 PM

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Its basically coming down to.....

by 892

those head to head games with Vancouver and Kamloops. Losing last night to Spoke, who were on an 11 game losing streak, and tonight against Seattle, were two losses they couldn't let happen. Kamloops has been lucky the last few games winning in O/T and putting distance between them and the Cougs. Kootenay keeps winning and including Vancouver they all have games in hand against PG.

The one thing with Pogge and the Cougs, is they seem to let too many games slip away in the last 3, 4, 5 minutes of a game when tied. Tonight was another example, tied late in the 3rd with Seattle and they let one in with under 5 or so minutes to go. I can clearly think of 3 other games similar to that and I believe Pogge was in net for those too. The kid has shown a ton this year and the Cats will ride him out to the finish whether they make the playoffs or not.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:09 PM

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pogge...

by chaz

you must remember he's the number one goalie at only 17 years old.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:08 PM

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Yup . . .

by Cougar Guy

we have let games slip away and we seem to be lacking that killer instinct that so many great teams have. It shouldn't be a news flash to any Cougar fan, but we are not a great team YET.

We do, however, have that potential to be great in the next couple of years (and we've shown flashes of being a very good team this year). I'm not writing this year off quite yet. Still lots of head to head games left for us to make up some ground. Those will ultimately decide the season.

I'm not about to get into "offseson" mose quite yet. We still have a chance to turn this roadtrip into a 0.500 trip, with the bulk of our remaining games left at home.

Gotta keep the faith.

GO CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:53 PM

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Lucky...right. I'm sure if the Blazers lost both those games in OT...

by Kamfan

and Blazer fans called them lucky wins by Calgary & Red Deer, nobody would have a problem with that, right? Those two wins were no more lucky than any OT win by any team this year.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:18 PM

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Warriors on a skid now........

by hereinmj

What's the excuses now....hot goaltender.....the flu....too many games in a row......
Can't get their crap together. Flash is choking, Brodziak can't do it all and Boychuk, Boyd, Masi are not in it these days.
I predict they'll get blown by Portland tonight big time. Perhaps the usual 3rd period late blast, but don't hold your breath.
Cough, sputter, choke, excuse after excuse after excuse.
Just warming up to get punted early in the playoffs again...........................

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 6:00 PM

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by moose

What kind of fan are you? looking at your post... a poor one!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 6:01 PM

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Disappointed............tired..........weary

by hereinmj

Says it all.
Been a fan forever, but am getting disgruntled. What does it take to get consistency???????????
I don't want excuses anymor..fix the problem.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 6:07 PM

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Fine to be unhappy....

by Slipster2

now suggest what you think is necessary to motivate the team. It is easy to sit on the fench and say something is boken but to get up and actually fix it is a different story. I am indeed interested in your story.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 6:35 PM

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Nice try Slipster2.......let the Warriors organization....

by hereinmj

fix the problem. There is enough experts there to do it. Soon as anything is suggested you'll just nix it. The Org better find a way to motivate the troops.
I think that acknowledging there needs to be a fix instead of making excuses is the first step.
We'll see what Hunt says after the game.
I'll bet he says they faced a good team, blah, blah, blah instead of admitting his kids are not performing.
We'll see if he has the balls.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 6:41 PM

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Good post.

by Slipster2

In that same breath I wouldn't jump over a person that may or may not have an opinion on what they think the problem is or how to fix the problem. I see it from both sides. I think there is a problem. I also think it is a problem that can be dealt with. The Warriors in all likelyhood won't lose in the first round but stranger things have happened. As for how to fix the problem? Who really knows. The coach is the man closest to the team and if he chooses not to bash his players for lack of effort I will commend him for it rather than pick him appart. I would respect my coach more as a younster if he chose to discuss it with me rather than make a player/s look like jackA$$es publicly. Just my opinion.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 6:57 PM

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Suggestion for Hunt and Young

by Paps

When your 19 and 20 year olds are getting consistently outworked and outplayed by the other teams 16-17-18 year olds, have the balls to put them on the back of the bench and play the 16-17 18 year olds that you are letting rot back there. You keep putting the same crap on the ice shift after shift. Send a message now!!! It is a long trip, use your bench and develop some kids!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 6:54 PM

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Good suggestion.

by Slipster2

It could work. Who knows. I guess it will depend on the kids. It will either motivate them or piss them off, either way you get their attention.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 6:56 PM

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Hey moose......don't whine about my comments 4-0 now

by hereinmj

I'm a fan , not an ideat. Beautiful game going on now eh!!!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 6:28 PM

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Very disappointing I know.

by Slipster2

I can't understand it at all. If they do lose out in the first round, I wonder how many people will be saying, "man we should have traded for tomorrow." I hear that a scout was on the radio tonight talking about our depth at forward and lack of depth a D for future seasons. They haven't taken a D man in the first round since Paetsch. I don't mind having the abundance of forwards as the best defence is a good offence. The Warriors made some trades to really solidify a great team now Hunt has to pull all that together and show he can lead them to the next step. I wish them all the luck in the world. I for one don't want to be watching other teams play when it could have been us.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 6:53 PM

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Warriors just scored at start of 3rd - big comeback on the way~~~~~~ nm

by CCC

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Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:20 PM

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Be a great way to turn things around.

by Slipster2

I would love to see that. Penalties galore. 3 fights and 15 PP's so far. WOW.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:18 PM

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Boychuk just wired one in, its now 4 - 2 for Portland We are one our way now ~~~~nm

by CCC

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Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:30 PM

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Come on warriors lets do it 3 min left nm

by munroe

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Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:36 PM

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Looks like this trip has turned into a very expensive tourist trip for the Warriors!!! nm

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Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:44 PM

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Just listened to Hunt whinning about the officiating

by About time

Some of the comments he made in the post game show about the refs will cost him some money. I guess it's alright for teams to go into MJ and get stiffed by the officiating. The comments out of MJ are that the other teams have to play more disciplined. Maybe that's the case here tonight. After bashing the refs he went on to complain that some of his players aren't showing up. Maybe that problem should be addressed first.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:33 PM

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by moose

This is probably the best season the warriors have ever had, the only down side... the PP. The coach seems to busy in blaming players who dont perform, so what does he do, plays them some more!!! benches are for players who want to take a night off! Not for players trying to get going trying to get the team going, watch for Hunt to leave the "stars" alone and rip into "fringe players" great motivation, if he does I can see this team imploding over the next couple of games. Just my opinion.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:12 PM

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None of the East/Central teams have done well in against the U.S. teams !

by Sudsy

They need to get their powerplay going. They also need to get in and forecheck. When they do that they are successful, Hey, it's not the end of the world, we only have lost three games in the last ten games !

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:52 PM

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Warriors Hunt blaming the referee for the defeat -

by CCC

Why doesnt he tell his players to shot the damn puck, especially on the power play.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:58 PM

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He pointed a few fingers at players as well.

by Slipster2

He didn't name names but he said there are a few that haven't been paying the price to win. Some players are taking shifts off and they will be on the ice tomorrow morning. Perricone will be on the ice and Brodeur will have the option of going on the ice. I think this is a great move. Players need to be held accountable and this is a good way to do it. I also commend him for not naming the players on the radio. It shows his respect for them. Good luck boys. I kind of got the feel from the radio broadcast that the Warriors should have had better fortunes in this game but not being there it is really hard to know for sure. Need a big win in Everett now on Tuesday. The trip doesn't get any easier.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:08 PM

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You dont just point fingers and make them skate = = =

by CCC

You sit them on their asses in the players box in the next game until they decide they are going to play the game the coaches want. The only one doing anything is Brodziak, while Fliechman got lucky on a couple, but sure is not shooting like he should be.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 6:32 AM

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I agree mostly.

by Slipster2

I think that Hunt is closer to the kids and will know best what motivates them and what a good punishment is. I also think when the rest of the team has a day off to enjoy and they don't that is not a bad punishment at all. It is tought to sit guys when you have a 6 game 8 day road trip. You can't burn out your good players like that. It's not fair to them. In that case who is really getting punished?

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 8:50 AM

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por 2-9 pp mj 1-8pp

by ace

poor pp again

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:44 PM

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What happen to Perricone tonight?

by ush

bad night? No defensive help?

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:04 PM

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Also 16 years old and playing in front of his parents -

by CCC

Anyone should know that was going to happen.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 6:31 AM

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How many 16 yr old goalies are in the Dub

by Mapleleaf

Perricone is one. How many others are there?

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 8:50 AM

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Carey Price in TC. Great start for the rookie keeper here in Tri. nm

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Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 12:48 AM

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You can't blame Perricone...

by Hawk Historian

The four goals the Hawks scored on them were quality goals. The first was a rebound that bounced off a d-man and in, the other three were on very nice passing plays that resulted in high quality chances and the Hawks buried them.

Also, Hawks Back-up Dustin Butler is 16 (a young 16 as he didn't turn 16 until December 30) and has played quite well.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 11:50 AM

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hereinmj

by bkh

So your not really a Warrior fan. Live in Regina? Your posts simply try to pick holes in the team.
Warriors lost 2 of 3 and will loose some more.
Your like a person from MJ who couldn't stand to see any one from the Jaw do well. Come to the games and hope the home town looses.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 8:28 AM

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Oh Really.......you must not like anything to be improved

by hereinmj

If no-one ever commented when things were going poorly, then things would never be improved.
Your definition of a Fan must be someone who coughs up the money without question.
You likely beleive everything you are told without ever seeing it yourself.
You probably voted for Al Schwinghamer for Mayor and support the $8.5 million dollar Cultural Centre because you never took 2 seconds to think about how absurd the costs are.
You likley gave money to some fake charity.
You likely bitch about everything to your family and friends but never beyond that.
You are the typical Moose Jaw person.
I am not, but I was born and raised in Moose Jaw.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 9:23 AM

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There is no way you are a typical MJ person.

by Slipster2

A typical MJ person would not act as you just did. I think that you have a negativity problem. You probably voted in Brian Swanson. You seem like someone who wants change as long as it suits you and screw everyone else. There is more than just your opinion. He is stating that you are bashing a team that you supposedly cheer for. If you cheer for them when you talk to them and come on the computer and say this crap it sounds like you aren't a real MJ fan. I have to agree. I pay money like everyone else to be entertained. Right now we have made the playoffs for 8 straight seasons. That is damn good. Things have changed but no one wants to give them any credit for it. Maybe that is what needs to change.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 10:07 AM

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I am allowed my own opinion. You are ................

by hereinmj

obviously too trusting in everything.
What is wrong with Brian Swanson?
There are "realists" that see things as they are and there are people who choose to see things with rose coloured glasses.
Point is...the Warrior Organization will do as good or better than the past if they question things and push for results. If they blame the Ref, the travel, the food, the........ then they won't get the job done.
As for you, I fully predict you are a typical MJ whiner to your family and friends but refuse to act or take action.
There are 3 types of people, those that make things happen, those that watch things happen and those that wonder what happened.
You, Mr. Slipster2, are a watcher.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:37 PM

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I read your posts and see a ton of whining.

by Slipster2

You may not think you are but you do. I won't get into Brian Swanson other than to say the last one to leave turn out the lights. What kind of a guy are you. Are you on the board improving things? Are you on the Booster club improving things? What actions are you currently taking, other than bitching on here aobut how they suck and need to be pushed to be better, to improve the team, organization or overall image of the team. It is easy to sit on the fence and bitch. Sometimes you have to have faith in the people that are hired to do a good job. If you are better for the job why didn't they hire you? My guess, you didn't apply. Sounds like you have just classed yourself as the watcher.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:56 PM

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Exactly who do you think you are SLIPSTER2 ???

by hereinmj

Interesting how if it isn't your opinion, it isn't any good.
If you really read my posts you would see that it's always about urging the Warrior Organization to look up and not down.
You are so hung up on yourself and any potential criticism of the Warriors that you are blind to the potential of doing better.
Guess what, it could be better and that's not to say it hasn't been worse.
You can't stand criticism.
By the way, what have you applied for? Are you really on the Booster Club or are you a wannabe? Perhaps you are on the Warrior Board. Someone with your total lack of negativity should be so you can blow smoke up everyones a$$ too.
Nice talking to you, will you listen?
Not a chance!!


Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 4:46 PM

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Please admit it Slipster2, you have just shot yourself in the foot again!!!! nm

by CCC

nm

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 5:53 PM

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Slipster, the battle is over . You're done again

by Satisfaction

Maybe come in under a different handle like you usually do. Haven't heard Ashman lately.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 8:33 PM

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Shot nothing.

by Slipster2

I see nothing coming from being negative. Postive reinforcement gets the best results. If you tell your kid he is stupid sooner or later he believes you. I think that if the Warriors were on a downswing and had missed the last 2 playoffs then fine. Complain and wine. To do so when the team shows steady improvement and is battling for top spot in the division is ludacris. The team may do something this season it has never done before and that is win the division. How can you continue to put the team down and the organization. It is time to call a spade a spade. The team is doing well. The organization is responsible for this. It didn't just happen on it's own. Give a little credit for a job well done. Go on the Warrior Rap board and ask the BM to tell you if Ashman and Slipster2 EVER came from the same IP address. I assure you it hasn't. He has never posted on my computer before.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 8:43 PM

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Love your spelling ability - actually it is - ludicrous

by CCC

There is a reason for no one using the Warrior Wrap board\ because of your connection with the Moderator. If I want to get you IP address, all I need to do is go to the Swift Currert Broncos Board - actually, they have a good idea - unless you happen to have two computer connections in your house.


Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 6:38 AM

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You have more false info. than anyone else I know.

by Slipster2

I don't have any idea who the board moderator is on that board. No one used the board until I used it. It was a dead board. I started posting on it and it started being used. Then people started getting way too personal so I left it. Still don't know who owns the board. I know who Ashman is. I can assure you it is not me. He has come right out and said who he is on that board.

Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 9:01 AM

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SLIPSTER2 doesn't listen and doesn't want Warriors to improve

by hereinmj

As predicted Slipster2, the self-proclaimed hard core Warrior supporter does not see the need to encourage improvement. Any suggestion of improvement falls on his deaf ears or is considered as a "whine" or a "bitch".
Even the great Warrior Head Office and Coaching Staff would recognize the need for improvement.
What would Slipster2 know about this? It appears he is not a Booster Member, a Board Member or otherwise. Just a self-proclaimed expert that is easily satisfied when the Warriors lose. Maybe he's just a "wannabe" Warrior Member.


Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 6:48 AM

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I do want to improve, I do listen as well.

by Slipster2

To good idea's and positive criticism. I don't like to hear fans that cheer for the same team putting each other down when the other brings up an idea. This all started because you had a very negative comment towards the team and it's coach. Someone stood up to you , not me, and you personally attacked this poster. It was classless and unnecessary. I don't like to see good guys put down for no reason at all. What is the sense of coming on here and posting this stuff about other posters and the team you cheer for. It just gives a negative image of the team, organization and it's fans. That is the problem I have with it. I want to see improvement in the team but if it takes me being an ******* to accomplish it them it is not worth it too me.

Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 9:05 AM

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My FINAL POST on this issue is..................

by hereinmj

read the whole post string down. The point was simple and it got responses.
It is the Warrior Organization who have to do their jobs. (which they are supposed to be good at). They have to motivate the team/players to get the job done consistently. Time after time the response to a loss like that has been explained in the form of an excuse. (poor reffing, hot goaltender, etc) In fact now you can see that Curtis Hunt did put blame on the Ref and some to the players.
This years' Warriors are the best calibre as a "team" that they have had in years they don't need excuses they need everyone to do their job.
Don't help them out by being a weak fan and making excuses for them.
Prod them to do better.

Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 10:50 AM

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I think the concept is a very good one.

by Slipster2

Support the team. Enjoy the entertainment. Watch some of the highest calibre hockey we have ever seen. Enjoy the 8th straight season of playoff hockey.( A first for Warrior fans) Continue to support the decisions of a great front office that over these past 8 years have put this team together. Continue to support the board of directors that hired such a good front office. Watch a great scouting staff continue to bring in some great talent. Also continue to support an excellent hard working coaching staff that will lay it all on line to win a championship. Afterall these are the guys that do all the work day in and day out. I will continue to support the team the best I can. If that is not good enough for some fans, well that is just too bad. Good luck to the Warriors this season and the ones to come. I would also like to thank all of the players for making this one of the more memorable seasons for me as a Warrior fan. It has been great and I look forward to the playoffs. I know you will play your heart out and that is good enough for me. Win or lose. I guess that is what I call being a good fan. Support the team whether we win or lose. Thanks.

Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 11:31 AM

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Board Mods......

by Wild Duck

Why do you allow this trash to continue??????????

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 9:22 PM

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Canes 3 Broncos 1 Final nm

by Baggy

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Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 5:36 PM

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to swift current fans

by pucks

to swift current fans
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Where is Busto hurt,healthy scratch. He did not play tonight against the hurricanes.


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raiders

by saskfan

Raiders up 2-1 over pats end of 1st. Welcome back Chipchura.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 12:52 PM

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4-3 final Raiders win on the road over the Pats NM

by fan

NM

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 2:38 PM

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Re: raiders

by misty

any recaps?

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 5:13 PM

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enjoyable game

by ace

good game to watch--nice to have chipper back,adds offense on another line.good fight waschuk and byers-bombs thrown by both[draw].miss young on the pp a bit --it did go 2 for about 5 or 6[cruse does pretty good] and now 16yr old may is back there on the second unit[what a great draft pick in the 5th round--good job obrien].defense getting beat a little more than i would like and reggie has to quit giving up one soft one a game[although he did make some great saves].regina had a good chance to tie it in the end but all in all pa out played them.goalie for regina[deckert]played well.anholt for coach of the year--i think this team has what it takes to do very well in the playoffs.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:16 PM

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Benke

by B24

Where is Erik Benke? He is not on the injury list but hasn't played in a while.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 12:07 PM

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He injured his foot

by

in a game when he was hit by a puck about a week ago. It's not the foot that was operated on at the beginning of the season. He's been walking around in a boot similar to the one Fitz used. He'll probably be out for a few games.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 1:23 PM

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Thanks

by B24

Thanks for the update, Jack! He's had a rough year.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 2:55 PM

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kelowna/clgary fight recaps anyone..nm?

by kelowna karl

nm

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:50 AM

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One real fight

by Daryl

The only actual fight in the game was the Gentile scrap....A hitmen player got drillefd from behind and a scrum ensued. Gents had a partner and they seperated from the group....chatted and dropped em. Was a decent tilt....if you ask a hitmen fan Gents won but although he threw a lot of big punches Im not sure they all landed. It looked like you'd give the win to Gents but the more you watch he didnt really land much. As for the end of the game there wasnt much of a fight....just a scrum in the corner and a Rocket tossed Yacboski to the ice. Wasnt really a fight....Id of given them double minors for roughing....but who cares the game was over.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:47 PM

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poortland fans?????/help

by greg

i am coming into portland for a sunday game was wondering where a good place to stay by the garden is as well as any good bars on a sunday to visit or nightclubs that are iopen late?

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:02 AM

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Hotel

by meh

This is a post by Scooter, Portland's PBP guy, from the Hawks forum...

The Winter Hawks have secured a visiting team's fan rate of $69 at the Holiday Inn, just two blocks from the Rose Garden. So, you can park there for free (save $7 to $13) and just walk to the game. Rooms are nice - just remodeled (this was The Radisson Hotel before)...Address is 1441 NE 2nd (just East of I-5 exit to Rose Quarter)...to make reservations, call toll free (877) 777-2704 and just ask for "The Winter Hawks Fan Rate". So, if you guys could spread the word, that would be great. This is a nice, convenient, way to stay overnight after your team's games in Portland.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:16 AM

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greg

by hockey fan

greg
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the holiday inn has a winterhawk rate it is two or three blocks fron the arena .



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How do you go about ordering Portland games on the net???

by Slipster2

How do you go about ordering Portland games on the net???
by Slipster2



Any one have any info. on how we can purchase this event.


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I have Telus adsl,and it works for me...I just click on the "pacific northwest"

by T.K.O.

adsl link.

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telus is 79$.....is there an easier way to get the game in moose jaw

by 2fast

we tried phoning the northwest dsl # to get the game for tonite but no one answering ,can anyone please give me an easier way to get the game on live internet........thanks


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Broncos One Line Wonders

by Goonie

Question: How far do you think the Broncos will actually get this year in playoffs? My prediction - due to the limited depth on the team in scoring they will be lukcy to win the first round. I know this may tick off many Bronco fans but honestly after watching a few recent games I have come to the conclusions that they Broncos hate the rough stuff (hitting, close checking) and that the one line could be neutralized with one line brawl or one antagonist punching out Willams' lights. A coach like Sutter will have a field day with the Broncos; he has played this type of game where as Smith and Glynn have not.

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interesting

by tiny

It is interesting that you have voiced some thoughts that I've had recently. After watching the Bronco's here not too long ago, I think Med Hat, Calgary, and Red Deer will all provide as much or more than SC can handle. I think it can be done without "line brawls" but with good solid contact every chance.

The dogfight for the remainder of the year may depend on depth. (ie. Mac out in MED HAT, SC relying of the top line, RD youth, Cal defensive youth) This division is so close it will likely wear itself down somewhat internally.

I think the three above would like to face SC in the first round rather than each other.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:39 AM

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Don't count them out

by Homersc

They are in a mini slump. They did not stay in first place all year because of one line. The problem is they don't play all four lines and the coach depends to much on the Williams line.
There third line is as good as most teams second lines and their fourth line of Sauer,Williams Szazckor when on the ice hit everything and cause havoc out there but Smith very seldom plays them. He is being out coached not outplayed. He has the talent in Williams,Redenbach,Heintz,Hunter,Sauer,White,Leavitt,Annesley,Hengen and Krestanovich but chooses not to give them a regular shift.
Toughness? they have more than enough but again Smith has the reigns on them. Trojovsky,Lentowich,Heintz,Busto and Szchachor all have shown they can throw them but again are held back. Trojovsky's fights have dropped almost to nothing and Lentowich before a scrap always has to look at the coach for permission to go. I say come play-offs Smith should role all four lines and if they are known for scrapping let them scrap. Let the fourth line hit them thru the boards. Let the scorers score and free wheel. Let the players finish their checks and let the D punish the players in front of the net.
No, Swift has what it takes but the coach is getting out coached and depends to much on the Williams,Redenbach,Heintz line and panics and double shifts them when the game is close. By the third they have no energy left and Szazchor,B.Williams,Sauer,Hengen,Fransoo,and Stone are freezing on the bench from no play. I say why have 20 players on the bench and only play 13-15. Let them all play and try to match lines a little.


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Scary

by broncs

I totally agree. Recently at the Rebel/broncs game in RD it was a good example. B. Williams and sauer played when J. Williams took a 10 min misconduct, and they played awesome they never once stopped moving their feet. Givesd these kids playing time. They have proved they can play at this level and play well. We have the best line in the DUB, our second line is proberally in the top 5 for 2nd lines and our third line can play a great checking game. Now play these kids on a fourth line and it would give the team a huge boost. We have a better team than most in the DUB they just have to get their heads out of their asses and wake up before it is to late.

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A real stretch..

by WObserver

Swifty is a one line team and they will vanish quickly in the playoffs. For you to say that their third line is as good as most teams second line is REALLY a tough one to sell. That means Swifty's second line is as good as most teams first line and NO they are not. Face it they rely on one line to do it for them and that never has worked for the Broncos and won't this year AGAIN. You've got to be realistic they are limited and it does not help by not playing the other lines enough for sure. Goaltending will also be a downfall for Swift plus lack of defensive defence as well. Sorry but the truth hurts. Calgary or Red Deer will take them out in the first round AGAIN!!!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 2:18 PM

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Talk is cheap

by smackitsakic

Wait till the playoffs to roll around before you start saying that stuff. If we're out the first round then yap your mouth off, if we're not then you'd better be prepared to take some heat for your predictions. It's too far away yet to post my predictions.

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Roll All Four

by Goonie

I agree with all that preceded my post. I don't feel that all the lines and D are used as they should be. Look at Sutter - he rolls all four and they all play hard.
The Broncos should also be rolling all four. Willams will disappear in the playoffs. I watched last night's game on Sportsnet and to say the big line and Whyte were over used would be an understatement. Back in the day Hunter was a kid who could light it up; he juts needs a chance to be offensive.

The cheap shots that Willams throws out during the game (almost every shift) would have got his head kicked in 5-10 years ago in the league. Not that I am telling folks to do this but if I was coaching I would waste a fouth liner on him first shift of the game.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 11:57 AM

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Re: Roll All Four

by out-of-towner

You know, maybe you people should put on a pair of skates and play as much as some of these guys. As for Williams' cheap shots, if you guys took as much abuse as he does, you'd take some shots to. I know that when you are one of the top guys you are going to get knock around, but enough is enough. Swift needs to get some guys out there who start hitting!!!

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Out of Towner

by Goonie

Hey Partner. Be careful what you say; how do you know that I haven't already been there and have done that.

I have watched the guy for the last four years; this is how he plays. The cheap shots work both ways. If you live by the sword you die by the sword.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 5:24 PM

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Your observation is valid but….

by Ice Fan

With a seven game playoff format it's hard to shut down a line every night.

I listened to the Kootenay radio broadcast last night and based on what was said, the Williams/Redenback line was out there endlessly. The key to Kootenay's win was shutting down that line. Last night Agarunov, Taylor and Bader did the job. In fact, the Kootenay trio scored two goals while giving up nothing.

Does this translate into an early exit from the playoffs? I don't think so. In the playoffs you need a line that can dominate especially on the power play.

Hats of to the Ice for a big win last night against one of the top team in the Dub and good luck Swift Current.


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Money figures comparing attendance re Tigers & Ice.

by Mats

Pricing comparing Medicine Hat to Cranbrook.

All prices based on adult ticket prices for simplicity.

Average attendance Cranbrook 2850 (estimate)
2200 season ticket holders-per game price $11.39 = $25,058.00
(based on $410.00 early bird price)
650 walk up- ticket price $16.00 = $10,400.00

Total $35,458.00 per game for the Ice.

Average attendance Medicine Hat 4006
3700 season ticket holders-per game price $7.69 = $28,453.00
306 walk up- ticket price $14.00 = $4284.00

Total $32,730.00 per game for the Tigers.

Estimate on money from concessions, programs and stuff per
person- $4.00
Medicine Hat 1156 more people/game X $4.00 = $4624.00

New total for Tigers per game $37,354.00

These of course are rough estimates and don't take into
account arena rental difference and such but they do show
that the Chynoweths have not much incentive to lower
ticket prices to increase their profits.

But then again depending on the concession figure
$1900.00 more per game is nothing to sneeze at.

Well that killed some time on a boring Sunday morning.
Any thoughts?
(season ticket sales numbers taken off Tigers website)

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:09 AM

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Mats . . .

by Cougar Guy

I think many teams could learn from the model being used in the Hat . . . especially PG. This has been debated over on the CougarDen a little bit.

Dropping the ticket prices will get more people in the rink, that's a no-brainer. If you can structure your pricing so that the extra people offset (or even improve upon) the revenue that you have "lost" from the drop in prices, you are laughing. The other intangible like you have noted, is the concession and merchandise sales. These will ALWAYS be greater with more people in the building. In order to pull this off, however, the team management has to REALLY understand their demographics and market . . . and I'm not convinced that many teams do (at least I'm confident PG management doesn't). There is no reason that PG couldn't sellout every game or at least get 5,000 people on average. BORING marketing and pricing that hasn't changed to reflect current market conditions is the culprit.

The current PG model works great if there is no capacity in the building and your only goal is to squeeze the most money out of the people that show up. When you have 2,500 empty seats per night, you should be more agressive with your marketing and take some risks to get the fan base re-established. A full building has a huge positive impact on almost everything. Keeping with the status quo when everything else around you is changing is a sure sign of doom.

I can't see PG ever getting prices quite as low as Medicine Hat (and I wouldn't expect that given the travel involved in PG) but I certainly applaud what the Hat is doing. I don't think there is a team in the league that couldn't learn from what they have done. How can you argue with a full building?

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:01 AM

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Another point to remember ...

by CatFan

is that getting all those people in the building has brought hockey fever back, and it definitely carries over to the playoffs, where they get full price for all of their tickets, and still sell out (in fact, they have to hold a lottery for the few remaining seats after season ticket holders pick theirs up). They were able to raise prices 75.00/season ticket this year, and there is still a waiting list of 800 for season tickets. I'm sure tickets will go up again next year, but now that the interest is back, nobody complains, plus you get great hockey atmosphere each and every game. The smaller market teams really need to try this (are you listening Lethbridge? Saskatoon? Regina?), it can't hurt.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 2:42 PM

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Absolutely . . .

by Cougar Guy

the more people in the rink, the more exciting it is, the more people don't care if they spend money on popcorn, the more people will come back because they had fun and the more word will spread around town that it is the place to be. It all feeds on itself.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 2:51 PM

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Easily said when the team is winning.

by Slipster2

Now lets see when the team loses some of these stars that they have right now. It will be a little tougher road in the future for them I am sure. I see a ton of talent leaving that city in the very near future and it looks like it will be very hard to replace. This of course is no different than any other team. The thing is fans have to be fans through thick and thin. Rather than when it is convenient to do so. Just my thoughts.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:13 PM

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21,000 over two games on Fri\Sat

by Calgary Fan

2 excellent games with 3 points out of 5. Should have beat kamloops but thems the breaks. The trap seems to be working for everyone. Not just Kel and Everett.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:19 AM

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Re: 21,000 over two games on Fri\Sat

by KRF

how do u get 3 points out of 5 in 2 games?

when did kel start trapping? cause they don t trap


Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:31 AM

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Kelowna not trapping?

by JumboJim

Kelowna has the best trap in the league so how can you possibly say they don't trap. They are by far the hardset team to get out of the zone against. Habby is infamous for using different forms of the trap. They don't trap my a$$.



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Hey Jumbo

by Giambi

Please explain Kelowna's trap to me. You are so sure they play it, and I agree with the other poster in that they do not trap. So I would like you tell let us know what their trap is all about.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:02 AM

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It's called clogging up the neutral zone..

by jack sprat

and it is the same system Habby has had since he entered the league. If you fail to recognize it you have been another casualty of "sleep zone hockey". Should be banned!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:21 AM

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Guess I was thinking soccer (wrong even then) nm

by Calgary Fan

nm

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:34 AM

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$5 Tickets sure helped the attendance

by WESTERN HOCKEY LEAGUE FAN

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Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 12:57 PM

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Portland auctions a game worn Coburn for...........

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$1750.00 US.

Dustin Butler's billet won it.


RR Crew

Out from Portland.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 2:27 AM

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I dropped out at.....

by Steve RR crew mem.

$1600.00 US, this being well over my budgeted $1000-1250. Yes I did say "I'd have my hot little hands" on this jersey, yet when push came to shove my poker hand (wallet) wasn't near as strong as the other bidder. When bidding was at or near $1100-1200 it was just her and I at that point. It did become very clear to me that she would go all the way, she bid $1500 I raised to $1600, she went to $1750 and I folded my hand. Just too much money would be leaving the beer fund all at once, so I "wimped" out, another eve. of a "tail between the legs" (King reference). Good news though, playoff intensity game and the Hawks get the two points.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:36 AM

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Mum a Mia!

by the King

Dear Steve I never thought of this over the weekend. I should of made a deal with you. I get to put Coburn's jersey on website www.whljerseys.com and wear when Portland plays in Seattle only. Steve, I would of thrown $500.00 extra into the pot??

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 2:20 PM

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Re: Portland auctions a game worn Coburn for...........

by Ryan

holy bejesus!!! seems like a price that a wayne gretzy autographed game used jersey would go for.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 1:49 PM

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Are you kidding?

by meh

I've seen game-worn #99s for more like $10,000. $1700 is pocket change (in comparison).


Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 12:21 AM

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Which Jersey

by Just Wondering

Was this the game worn jersey that he wore at the WJC when his rear end got in the way of the clearing pass that ended up in the net?

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 2:56 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong...

by meh

...but I'm pretty sure it's not standard for a goalie to try and fire the puck straight up the middle, especially when the nearest defenseman is not facing him and not ready for a pass.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 9:13 AM

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What a waste of money.

by Reptile

$1750.00 for a junior hockey jersey? He's overrated anyway.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:28 PM

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Goes to a good cause at least nm

by Mannfan

nm

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:54 PM

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TIGERS 38 STRAIGHT SELL OUTS...

by Kris

wow pretty good for a team 2 years ago was like the blades... keep up the good work boys!!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:43 PM

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Congrats on the big crowds!

by AmsHockeyFan

I know how much fun hockey can be in a full barn....enjoy the sell-outs and cheer on your team!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:01 PM

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That fantastic and congrats..

by Big Tiger

when is the new rink finished and what is the capacity going to be.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:34 AM

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If every team had a $275.00 season ticket price

by Mats

I believe all teams would sell out most of their games. Congrats to the Hat as their ownership group knows a full barn is always better than a half filled barn. Amd congrats to their crazy fans!!!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:36 AM

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No kidding....

by 892

if tix were that cheap here in PG, I'd buy'em and wouldn't care if I missed a few games here and there. They're not that cheap tho', something like $420 for a season, and the team pretty much sucks every year so that doesn't make for a good combination. But again, if the tix were cheaper I'd have season's again and really who cares if they win or not!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 1:54 PM

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In PG . . .

by Cougar Guy

if adult tickets were dropped from $425 to even $350, I'd buy 2 instead of 1.

I highly doubt Cougar management reads this board, but if they do, I challenge them to try something with ticket prices for next season (and make it a genuine attempt . . . not 15 dollars off an adult ticket). They could even make it a 2-3 week window where you have to take advantage of the lower prices. Market the hell out of it and see what happens . . .





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And another reason-Tigers play exciting hockey!!

by Mats

From what I've seen of them-no boring defensive systems like the majority of teams play in the league now. Here in Iceland 1 out of every 2 games is a snoozefest with 2 teams taking turns dumping the puck off the glass all nite long. But the good games make it all worthwhile though.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:51 AM

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Ams attendance

by TBirdsFan108

Tri City in first place draws only 3,200 fans on a Saturday night.

Second place Portland draws nearly 12,000. Second place (tied) Everett draws near 8,000. Spokane, on an 11 game losing streak, draws over 8,000.

It's only a matter of time before the Ams move on.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:26 PM

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interesting.

by amsto?

Very true. Word is they are going to Bellview to play for the microsoft crowd. Definately makes financial sense. Just limited interest in tri city for sports there. Mostly disinterested farmers live there. Minor league baseball doesn't draw well there either.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:38 PM

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Never Happen

by Fiddle Faddle

Seattle and Everett have to approve a franchise move to Bellevue. That will never happen. I can see Seattle moving to Bellevue, but the league will not allow any other franchise to move to Bellevue

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:20 AM

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Re: interesting.

by Ryan

so where to send the ams? maybe give cali a team?

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 1:14 PM

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Ams to Bellevue?

by TBirdsFan108

That would be interesting. I've heard rumors of the Tbirds looking to move to Bellevue if they ever build an arena for them. I don't know if Seattle, Bellevue and Everett could make it. Those three cities are very close. But doubt, with attendance like they are getting, they are on their way out of town.

Can't wait for Brad to start posting all of the excuses.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:38 PM

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Territorial Rights???

by Anonymous

I don’t think Tri-City could move to Bellevue if they wanted too. I think that T-Birds have territorial rights in that area giving the owners of the T-Birds first right of refusal to that market should an ice arena be built.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 1:36 PM

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Seattle should be worried.

by Reptile

Maybe Seattle should worry. What did you draw Friday night against Portland? 5167?? Tri-Cities has drawn more fans to our last couple of games against Spokane. Not only does the biggest City in the Northwest only draw 5100 against their rival city, but then Portland brings in one of the biggest crowds in leage history against Seattle the very next night!! I think that the T-Birds will look good in their new Bellevue Blue-Bloods sweaters.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:44 PM

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Tonight Portland attendance..

by HawksFan4Life

was no where near the league record. Portland does, in fact, hold the league record though. In 1997 agaionst Seattle, Portland drew 19,103.. Portland holds the top 10 single game attendance records in the WHL. Go ahead and say it's because we have a big arena, but be realistic.. if your team had a large arena would you be able to draw that many people? I doubt it.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:02 PM

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Agreed

by Bellevue American

The proposed Bellevue arena is a few years away, but I understand Michael Tuckman's group (Puget Sound Sports and Entertainment) is moving right along with their plans to get it built. There is no way the present Thunderbird management group has enough business acumen or finese to bring a hockey team to Bellevue. Look at what they haven't done in Seattle so far. Everett is doing very well and the arena is just the shot in the arm that part of downtown needed. Bellevue is screaming for something to do at night! However, three hockey teams in the area is probably one too many. I would not be surprised to see the Tbirds on the market right about the time this arena gets going. Check out www.bellevueNIGHTHAWKS.com/ and see who these guys are. I don't think Tri needs to worry unless their team is already being shopped. "The Bellevue-American" was the name of our local newspaper for years. Is that a sign? Nah...

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 1:51 AM

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How about you worry about your own team being behind the AMS in the division instead

by AmsHockeyFan

Come on...we were playing a team from the East that noone has heard of unless they follow hockey. I think our attendance wasn't so bad, considering that. Last weekend playing Portland we drew a nice size crowd...and you CAN'T compare the Portland/Seattle crowd size to our Moose Jaw/Tri-Cities crowd...are more realistic comparison would be the sold out games against Spokane at home. As far as the Everett game goes...everyone knows that the first few years of a franchise the team draws more fans...happens everywhere, the newness will wear off eventually. As far as the Spokane game goes, even I am impressed. After hearing about the brown bag wearers at previous games I am amazed that they had over 3,000 in attendance! (not to mention it was just Prince George)...but I bet tonight was some special "group night" in Spokane...like when they have all the Boy Scouts come and the place gets packed.

So...if you want to call these excuses, go right ahead...but the fact remains...THE AMS ARE NOT GOING TO MOVE...and the more you go on and on about it, the more I realize how unbeliveably moronic you really are. Get off your "the AMS are gonna move" hobby horse and worry about things that matter....such as the fact that YOUR team is behind ours in the standings. (Oh..and don't bother whining about how we have played more games than you....we've heard that excuse too often!)


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Re: How about you worry about your own team being behind the AMS in the division instead

by Ryan

you guys both have good points, yes concentrate on whats going on now, but you cant forecast the future? you dont know if the ams will move, unless of course youre high up in the front office, which even then you wouldnt know for sure. It sounds like a possibility, if youre not drawing enough fans how could they keep em? it'd be too much of a financial burden.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 1:27 PM

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RE: Ams Attendance

by Duh!

There is a "slight" difference in the population base between Portland, Seattle and Everett versus the Tri-Cities. Based on your comments, each of the other teams should be drawing sell-out crowds each game. We went to a game in Portland that had 2500 people at the most - how can you explain that?

Don't worry about the attendance in Tri, it takes time to get a crowd base back (even though the team is doing great)!

Thanks for trying to get more scuttle-butt started!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:05 PM

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3,000 on a Saturday night

by TBirdsFan108

... means one thing and one thing only.

The Ams front office isn't doing its job. And they will move soon to a city that will support them.

About the playoffs, let's just say you definitely won't have the #1 seed. It will go to Portland or Everett for sure.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:33 PM

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3000 vs. 5000? How about under 200,000 vs. 1.5 million?

by Reptile

Compare % of population and your comparison loses any credibility. 3000 in Tri is the same as 22,500 in Seattle. HMMMMMM....which building isn't worth sh@t as a hockey venue, which team sucks, which team would benefit from moving to a fan friendly building as a primary tenant, which team draws the fewest fans as a % of their population?........SEATTLE. Face it, the team would be much more prosperous in Bellevue. Tri will continue to build a winning franchise and the place will be full.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:51 PM

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Compare ticket prices

by 103

If the Birds had your prices the attendence would be towards the top of the league. The Ams have had every promotion in the book to get people in the barn and still cant. I realize the people there have been duped by several idiot owners but if the franchise was going to make it they would be doing better at the gate. I hope the Ams do make it, I like the arena and its not that far of a road trip. PS dont worry about Seattle, if the team wins next year all the bandwagon fans will be back.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 1:05 AM

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The Ams are not moving

by Richlandman

This rumour about the Ams moving is plain stupied it is not going to happen. The ownership is very happy about the attendance in Tri-Cities. 3,000 plus for a game against Moosejaw is very good. The Ams have soldout the last 2 games against Spokane and we had 4,000 plus against Portland. Tri-Cities can support a hockey team. The new convention center will be opening soon too. Bellevue you can forget about having the Americans as your hockey team, they are not leaving the Tri-Cities. If Porter wanted to sell the team, I think Olie and Stu would buy the team and keep them here. They are also bigh part of this team and I know they would not let the Ams move to Bellvue. The Ams will be in Tri-Cities for years to come.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:37 AM

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you just keep telling yourself that

by mover

You just keep telling yourself they won't leave.

Just like the U.S. president does to his people. If you say it long enough whether it's true or not, you'll start believing it!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:36 AM

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We don't want your team.

by Bellevue American

You have a great team. You are proud and you should be. We would want our own team, WHL or whatever.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 7:39 PM

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$4.00 difference! C'mon!

by Bellevue American

The TCA website states adult tickets are $14.00. Comparable seating at the Key is $18.00. It is inconceivable to me that a $4.00 price reduction per ticket would substantially increase attendance for the Tbirds. And who are these bandwagon fans you mention? Many of them are lost for good to Everett, the remaining numbers couldn't be enough to make much of a difference. Just like any spectator sport TCA and the Tbirds need to attract NEW fans that will continue to attend games. Considering the entertainment choices offered the Seattle area market compared with those in the Columbia Basin area, I see a pretty level field when factoring in population numbers. I am not familiar with how TCA is marketed. They are a great team to watch, however, and my family has attended all but one of their games this year against Seattle and Everett. We are not season ticket holders for wither team. All things being in their proper place (management, promotion, etc) there is no reason why game attendance shouldn't increase for TCA.

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Congratulations Brusty

by Goalies Rule

Congratulations from Spokane Fans in 215, on your 1st shutout of the year Brusty. Keep it going we want to see you in the NHL!!!!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:26 PM

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Also

by Goalies Rule

Congrats to Gerry Festa on getting a win with the Chiefs!!!

There's More to Come.

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Barry

by We miss you!!!!!

WAY TO GO BARRY!!!!!!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:06 PM

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Chiefs FINALLY win

by DuckFart

An impressive win over PG helps the Chiefs get out of this embarassing slump and get some much needed points. I would have to say that they came out fighting and had a win on their mind THE entire game. Good job to Scott Lynch for a very excellent game and for Jeff Lynch for a very good fight, the crowd needed it and the Chiefs also needed it to boost themselves. I love the way they actually played like a team and PASSED the puck. Keep this up and we might win two in a row.
Duck

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Hats off to Spokane.......

by Sec. R

for taking advantage of a tired club. 4th game in 5 nights, and tomorrow will be their 5th in 6 nights. Talk about having the worst schedule in any league. Hopefully they can find something in the tank to knock off Seattle tomorrow night.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:06 PM

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Get off it

by DuckFart

The Chiefs just out played PG, who cares if they are playing a lot of games. Every team goes through it, the Chiefs did it in Oct and Nov on their eastern swing and I believe they kicked butt on that swing and they played 5 games in 6 nights. You kepp maing excuses if it helps you sleep better at night. Good job Chiefs.
Duck

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Re: Get off it

by probot

i agree... every tean has streches like that. trips like divide the men from the boys. oh well... good win for the chiefs, they needed it!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:26 PM

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Spokane had 2 wins and 3 losses on eastern swing.nm

by Reptile

nm

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:47 PM

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Correction

by HawksFan4Life

Moose Jaw is in Portland tomorrow. Portland had 7 games in 9 nights not too long ago, so Moose Jaw isn't the only team that has had it bad this year. I'm sure there are other teams that have had the same ordeal.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:35 PM

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We didnt' play MJ

by Mannfan

MJ was in TC tonight....Prince George was in SPokane tonight and plays in Seattle tomorrow. Enjoy watching MJ though, I enjoyed our game against em Friday even if we did lose.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:38 PM

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Oops

by HawksFan4Life

I got teams confused.. my bad.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:45 PM

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I would have to agree..

by Chiefs Fan 04

All the boys played awesome tonight especially Scott and Jeff Lynch, they were out there every other roation.. and Gerry Festa was outstanding tonight.. I thought that the boys did awesome and have a really good chance going into tuesday game vs. Brandon.. Keep up the hard work boys!!

GO CHIEFS GO

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Me Too...

by Rupprechtlover

I was very impressed by Festa tonight and I really enjoyed his little victory dance that he did as he left the ice after the win.And great job by Jeff and Scott tonight...they both played awesome...the boys actually played (pretty much) an all around good game and they looked like the chiefs again..Way To Go Guys!!

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This damn schedule

by Sec R

Tonight was another 4th game in 5 nights and tomorrow will be their 5th game in 6 nights. What other team has had that? I say we send our concession vendor to the next scheduling meeting.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:01 PM

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You'll have to help us here...

by Coach

What team are you referring to?

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:07 PM

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Sorry .... the Cougars

by Sec R

Got frustrated with another loss.

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that explains how the chiefs won

by drtinder

That is tough. Certainly explains how the chiefs won tonight. Brutal for PG.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:31 PM

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Don't worry Section R

by TBirdsFan108

You got the TBirds on Sunday night. You should get two points without even having to show up.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:39 PM

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Tigers 3, Blades 2, OT, some thoughts

by Alberta Brian

Two words about tonights game. Ryan Cyr. It was an absolute pleasure to watch the display of goaltending this kid put on tonight.

The Tigers came at the Blades in waves tonight peppering Cyr with 54 shots and he made about a dozen huge saves and six of those were of the highlight variety robbing Tiger snipers like Meyer, Reid and Seidenberg time after time.

Cory Mclean had a tough night with the whistle but the calls were bad both ways, well perhaps worse for the Blades.

The Tigers fought back from a 2 goal deficit then Barker scored the winner with a wrist shot from the blue line that Cyr simply did not see. Even as a Tiger fan it was tough to see Cyr not come out with a tie or victory for his team but he did single handedly get them the single point.

Meyer was the third star scoring the tying goal on an easy tap in on a PP. Reid was the second star scoring the Tigers first on a short handed breakaway. Ryan Cyr was the first star and was given a thunderous ovation by Tiger fans for his performance tonight. He showed lots of class, no doubt feeling bad about the loss but acknowledging the fans cheers with a big wave.

It was a big win as the Tigers are now tied for first place. It's been a long time since the Tigers have been in that position. Next up for them is a home at home with the Rebels.

Thats all for tonight.

Brian

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At least we got a point

by DuckFart

The Blades are certainally not doing that great this year, but the key is to not give up and by the counds of it, the team should take some lessons from Cyr. I would've loved to see a game where 54 shots are fired and only 3 slip by. Good job to Cyr and the Blades for at least getting a point.
Duck

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When Cyr was announced as the first star of the

by Baggy

game, about 2500 Tiger fans, gave him a very loud applause that lasted about 30 to 40 seconds. The kid put on a show tonight, it was a darn shame that he didn't end up with the win.

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Kamloops back on track 2-1 win over Red Deer in ot

by Liggy

Kamloops Skated well tonihgt and got another great performance from Dubnyk as Conlin Seder scored in ot to push the blazers past Red Deer 2-1. Rick Kozak had the other goal


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confidence helps!

by hockeygal

This team has got tons of talent. What they really needed was some consistant discipline on and off the ice and a load of confidence. Most fans in Kamloops new they could do it. Keep it up guys!

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Confidence is key

by Liggy

Very well said and good point


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Blades lose 3-2 in OT

by J


Surprise,surprise! The Blade lose again. Despite being badly outshot tonight in MH the Blades managed to get a point. A point is a rare feat for the Blades this season. Hey-24 points now! Ryan Cyr played a super game or the score might have been a blowout.

It is very apparent that the Blades can not win under
the current coaches.

Just wondering if anybody cares.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 9:30 PM

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Cyr

by Alberta Brian

The kid was better than super tonight. He was unbelievable. Hats off to him!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 9:38 PM

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It Ain't the Coaches Buddy

by Goonie

It is pretty easy to blame the coaches; if you know anything about the game of hockey you can see a number of things very clearly: 1) They have only one line who can score-you must score to win games; 2) they are too bloody young - the guy who picked the team (Dickie not Reeve) clearly wa spicking for the future; 3) the defence is brutal - they can't move the puck and they turn it over too readily - Haw should still be playing midget until he learns to skate - again this can be attributed to brutal scouting and a gm's need to bring in young guys too quickly; 4) they are working their bags off (coaches included) but they just don't have the talent to finish or to compete - they are not getting blown out they just don't have the experience or skill to finish. 5) The goal tending is great but Cyr and Ward (who is still recovering from mono) can't score on the pp.

Finally, if you were to ask any employees in the Blades office, at SaskPlace, or on the training staff who is treating people in the organization like people rather than peons - the folks would say Reeve is a class guy.

Get off the band wagon and watch the bloody game; it is clear you have not done too much in the world of hockey pal.


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oh really?

by freud

I beg to differ. Saskaoon has 14 players who are 18+ (only 2 are actually 18) PA has 13 players 18+, Brandon has 15 players 18+ and Moose Jaw has 16 players 18+.

I could keep checking and find many teams with the same # or less than Sakatoon but.....the point really is the manager and coach are not getting it done. This year is done and I sure hope that there are new faces on the caoching staff next year.

Big problem....the 19 and 20 year olds are not worth anything in the trade dept. They should have moved Schultz in Jan when he had some value. His play has deteriorated. PAulsson may have been marketable to a contending team at deadline but as a 20 year old euro he will fetch nudda. CAra, Fetzner Moir, and probably Woods will have to make the Blades a s20s as there will not be takers elsewhere. Cyr should stay as a 20.
Just my opinion.




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I Don't Know

by Smith

I don't know Reeves or any in the organization, but from reading the Star Pheonix I am not impessed with the way he talks about players in the press. Bad form in my opinion.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 1:52 PM

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Blades

by Deeder

I understand from Brodski that Reeve has just a few weeks left with the club. What a scape goat!

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Re: Blades

by Goon

I believe Reeves was promoted to head coach to save $ as Dickie still had to be paid this season and next. Since Reeves was already on payroll they just topped up his wage for this season. He wasn't ready to be a head coach, but what do you do. No wonder you have the problems ie: benching certain players and not the obvious ones; settling issues through the media; not trading players who wouldn't except responsibility; not developing the offensive creativity some of the young players possess.

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Re: It Ain't the Coaches Buddy

by Goon

I think you want to say that because they are so young they simply don't have the experience to finish in most cases. The talent is their just a bit young at this time. I said this a while back and stand by it. Not many dub teams will have eleven players 16 or 17 yrs. on their rosters. Some nights all of these players have dressed. Here is the list if you haven't noticed: Joe Barnes 17, Wacey Rabbit 17, Evan Haw 17, Dylan Flatt 17, Ben Van Lare 16, Boris Lakovic 16, Bjorn Svensson 17, Nick Knudsen 17, Dane Crowley 16, Devon Setaguchi 16, Joel Eisenkirch 17. With these young players and losey vets no wonder they are having the season that they are experiencing. Who's to blame? I'm not sure, but with this many young players in the line-up they can only go up!

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again

by freud

just checking a couple of teams, Regina has 12 16 and 17's and Brandob 9 and they also play. By the way, Crowley has turned 17.
Next year these guys will be 17 and 18 and will have had some time and experience under their belts. I am certainlt not convinced that stoon hasa better crop of young players than other teams though. There are some pretty good ones around the league.

Certainly with what 9 19 year olds? the team should be doing a whole lot better!

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Re: again

by Goon

your right, these teams have a lot of young players however, they don't all dress at the same time, as they are still in playoff contention. And if you read my post I didn't compare them to other teams, I merely stated that they have no where to go but up! And I also said that the vets sucked. By the way since you brought up the subject of Crowley being 17. I checked Brandon and Moore is 18, Delargo is 18 and with Regina Slade is 18, Deck is 18, Linekar is 18, O'dwyer is 18. Just for your info.

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Re: Re: again

by freud

actually Deckert is 17. He will be 18 in July. I did not check on the others, but Crowley is actually 17 right now.
We could debate this forever....we agree that the older vets are marginal at best and that there is some up and coming talent. What we seem to disagree on is the actual bonafide talent compared to other teams whose younger players we do not see as much of.
Settiguchi seems to be a good one and so does Van Lare and KNudsen. Time will certainly tell. The other contentious point between us is the coaching staff and GM. Whether you like Dickie or not, he too came on board when the team was bad and turned things around. Reeve has done squat. He belittles players in the press, does not seem able to motivate his players and picks very poor leaders. Keller should have his A ripped off. Give the letter to Schultz.
On a happier note.....kudos to CYr for a big game.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:51 PM

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well put,freud.

by J



Freud,I think you have stated it well.The Blade 19 year olds have not produced like the vets they are supposed to be. Many teams might have benched them earlier or tried to trade them if they do not or can not produce.A 6 win season is pretty bad,especially
after a great finish last year.

I guess many reason could be stated for the lowly state of the Blades this year.

-injuries played a part
-changing coaches was a factor
-overestimating the abilities of the vets
-lack of an apparent on ice leader
-maybe the overall talent level of the team
-I think the scouting system is inadequate
-perhaps having a GM come in without WHL experience
was a factor.

Maybe other people see some other factors too.

The bottom line is that the Blades could be heading
to their worst record ever in 40 seasons in the WHL.
Should the loyal fans expect better? I think so!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:16 PM

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NOT THE COACHES

by BLADE BOOSTER

I am a season ticket holder and my daughter knows some of the players. Contrary to the opinion of some of the more "in the know" posters on this board I think Jamie Reeve should stay. The players are coming around to him, he is starting to be more vocal on the bench. I agree with the players and fans who think Jamie Reeve should be given a chance at the beginning of September and could be let go in October if he hasn't turned things around. Let him pick his team at training camp - maybe part of the problem is the players that were sent home at training camp (Jesse VanDalffsen, Jeff Preston, Pat Redmond) We will never know but next year will be Reeve's true test.

GO BLADES GO!!!!

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Re: NOT THE COACHES

by Goon

Why start the season with Reeves then switch after a month or so. The team will be in the same situation as they are now. I say bring in experience early in the off season, let them set up shop, ship out all the 19 and 20 yr olds and get ready for another season. Make sure the new coach is a former player and not a goalie, how can Reeves teach the young fowards when he never played the position.

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Re: Re: NOT THE COACHES

by BLADE BOOSTER

Good Theory - but then why does Bruno coach defence - He was a forward.

Maybe Richie should coach defence - Jamie the Goalie - and Bruno be head coach. Let's mix things up for the good of the game. Gimme a break - Jamie will be fine and other teams have changed coaches mid-season and it hasn't effected their level of play.

Let's stop making excuses.


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Re: Re: Re: NOT THE COACHES

by Goon

Pilon actually works with the defense at practice but does not coach during games, that is why Bruno works with the dmen during games. Pilon is only a part time coach.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 9:51 PM

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coaches

by J


Jamie appears to be a very nice fellow when he does his Blade after game interviews. The bottom line,however, is that his approach is not translating
into results for the Blades. The same with Bruno.
In most hockey programs, the end result is a key.

The Blades need a coach with some credentials and some
big time major league experience.This person should also have input into how the scouting system is set up.
A close look at the Blade on ice production in the past 8 years indicates that a couple of seasons were pretty good,but mediocre to poor is the more common result.

Just wondering if ex Blade Brian Skrudland might have
some interest in coaching and or GM. He would bring lots of experience,some contacts,and big time work ethic to the table.

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Reeve is his name.

by Goonie

I don't want to belabor this but his name is REEVE not REEVES - coach Reeves (as has been pointed out before) was the coach on the White Shadow (the basketball show way back in the day).

The guy has played the game and has credentials as does Bruno and Pilon. The sad fact is that currently there are not enough talented horses in the Blades stable. They are working their bags off but have no talent.

I feel he should stay as coach for next year McEwen should be replaced as should the scouts. Skrudland might be a nice addition but until the Blades want to hire some good scouts who know the game and get rid of the dinosaurs that they have in the scouting department then they are going to continue to get kicked. Right Ange?

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ok- Goonie

by J


ok-my error. I still feel that Mr. Reeve is not the answer.Maybe he is too nice and the Blades need a tougher coach like a Sutter.

I am not sure what Bruno`s credentials are and what aspect of the Blade game he looks after. It does not matter as Blades are worst in goals against in the WHL and second to last in goals for.

Pilon was a tough D man in NHL,but not sure of his
skill level.

Can these guys teach the Blades? The report card so far this season is not great!

Hey -Goonie we both agree on an overhaul of Blade scouting system.

Something needs to be done as I can not even give away Blade tickets for this season.The horse(Joe fan)
is almost dead!

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Tigers tie for first in the Central, beat the Blades 3-2 in OT

by Winger

Great comeback after being down 2-0. They seem to find a way to win. They have a game in hand over Swift but it will go right down to the wire. Red Deer and Calgary are coming on too, should be great hockey down the stretch.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 9:27 PM

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What the hell is happening to Kelowna? 4 loses in a row?

by DB

Opinions anyone?

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Other coaches are taking a page

by Sec.R

Out of PG's play book. Kelownas lack of scoring talent is catching up with them. As said before, it's not that they have any better players than anyone else. They have an incredible coach that will no doubt try and come up with something new, to try and get his boys confidence back again, before the playoffs.

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Parity In The League

by wheatking follower

Unlike other years, there are no dominant powerhouse teams in the league. Anyone can beat anyone on a given night.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:50 PM

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Re: Parity In The League

by dfd

except spokane and saskatoon. They can't beat anybody.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:55 PM

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Re: What the hell is happening to Kelowna? 4 loses in a row?

by Unbias Fan

Yea its only 2 in a row actually

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:53 PM

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Power Play is the problem

by Liggy

Kelowna has not scored on the pp in 6 games in which time they have gone 0 for 27. they will pick it back up don't worry

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Since trade deadline...

by Coach

Kelowna is 7-6-1-0, scoring only 31 times in the 14 games (an average of 2.21 goals per game).

Prior to the trade deadline, the Rockets were scoring 2.73 goals per game.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 9:13 PM

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Kelowna scoring goals

by Rocketeer

Just doesn't happen with any type of regularity. Kelowna is ranked 48 out of the 56 CHL teams in goals for. Hope this doesn't haunt us come play off time. Defense wins play off hockey but you gotta score some goals to win????
Is it to late to trade Paddock??? (hahaha)

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I think Hamilton...

by Coach

truly believed that he could talk Tambellini into joining the Rockets, and that would be the additional offense that the team would require. He's had success with bringing other college players to the team, and I'm sure he felt that he could entice Tambellini as well.

I like the trade he made for Tambellini's playing rights, but it was too much of a gamble to not bring in some guaranteed offence. As it stands, Hamilton did not make a deal that improved the team's scoring ability. There were players out there that could be had, but his reluctance to pay any sort of a price may cost the team in the end.

The Rockets had a lot more offensive ability last season and they weren't able to get the job done. The saving grace for them in this year's Memorial Cup may be the fact that they have the advantage of playing in their own rink.

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Re: I think Hamilton...

by Unbias Fan

Its easy for you to speculate what he could have or should have done but you don't know for sure he didn't try to make a trade. It takes 2 teams at least to make a trade, its easier said then done.

I know for a fact a trade was in place for a top end scoring D-man, but the third team in the deal at the very last second changed their mind after having agreed to it for a couple of days, leaving Bruce no time to look else were.

He could have had Ryan Keller from Saskatoon as well but the cost was to high (3 players off there current roster)

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Exactly . . .

by Cougar Guy

IMHO the Rockets team from last year wouldv'e walked all over this years Rockets team and look how that turned out.

I really don't think this team has the offensive ability to compete with the best teams in Canada come Memorial Cup time. They do play very well on the back end, but so will the other teams they will be facing. I can't help but think that their d is not going to be enough to get them the Cup. They're going to have to start scoring some goals or they may not even end up being the Dub champ.

I'm really shocked they didn't load up with some scoring, even if it meant giving up some of their younger key guys.

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Five reasons why this year's Rockets aren't as good as last year's Rockets

by Fan

1) Schultz
2) Cuthbert
3) McLeod
4) Keith
5) Slovak

Sure, every team loses really good players every year... that's the natural cycle of junior hockey. But I would submit that the losses sustained by the Rockets after last season were worse than just about any other team in the Dub and those players were not replaced with players of comparable talent, especially offensively.

Kelowan will NOT win their way to their own tourny this year. You heard it here first. They won't be the team to come out of the Western Conference and will spend several weeks waiting for the other 3 teams to come to Kelowna in May.

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I agree

by Squig

with most of your post.

We lost over 300 points combined from last year. Thats hard to make up for any team.

The team is in a slump right now - but i prefer the glass is half full myself. Still in first - Still competing every game. All in all having a great year!

But for the record who are you?

"fan" doesnt tell us much - many use that handle. Just so we know whose back to pat when/if your prediction comes true!!

Go Rockets Go!!!

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Opinion

by Rocketeer

Look at the streak we had last year. Did it all start to early? Look at the lead we have not only in our division, but our conference as well. Is there any real urgency to win games? We learned last year that you can burn out early. Our play of late may be a simple method of going through the paces right now until such time that there are a dozen or so games left in the year before we begin to put the whole package together? This of course is me thinking this through in a hopeful positive manner. Our in-ability to put the puck in the net (Ranked 48th "Goals for" in the CHL) has got to be worrysome for all of us. We need to start having some meaning to the games. Kamloops next Friday. If that is not meaningful enough then I don't know what would be. Let's see if they break out of the dolldrums that night.
I have faith, I do believe.
We want to win the WHL crown and go to the MC...not as hosts, but as Champions. Lots of work to do before that happens!!!

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how were the two fights

by KRF

howarth and reinholt fought two hitmen, anyone have recap

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From what I heard

by Robster

On the radio...PBP Regan Bartel gave the win to the calgary guy who came back with some hard lefts.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 8:27 PM

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1 Tri-MJ 0..nm

by Clone

nm

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2 Tri-MJ 0..nm...damn

by Clone

nm

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sounds like MJ's PP is struggling again...

by ush

they have to get the PP going.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:24 PM

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They need to put Manson or Patsack in front of the net !

by Sudsy

They are trying to be way to fancy !

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:30 PM

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they have;

by mf

to go back with the same powerplay they had before xmas.broziac,fleishman,maki.boyd lilley brouwer.these lines had good movement.

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Warrior imagine the unexpected

by Bo Jackson

I thought #7 the D-man Rome was impressive tonight he has a great looking release but Fleischman didn't do much until the third. Was your tough guy was scratched?

As far as the Ams getting Jonasen back is huge he looks good. Bam McCaffery with another goal and strong game. Costanzo and Connors are very good penalty killers.

Biggest disappointment Logan Stephenson he just doesn't want to play tough at all, it makes no sence. I'm talking about grit not just fighting.

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Huxley vs McLeod...

by T.K.O.

Not much landed...Huxley misses with the most promising punch(left hook)and McLeod gets the takedown.The way they went down,Huxley could have been cut by a skate,but wasn't.I think McLeod was aware of this,and kept his legs still,instead of flailing around,and trying to get up in a hurry.Advantage McLeod if for nothing else other than the takedown.

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I saw it differently....

by Steve RR crew mem.

Huxley threw more and connected more. Decision to Huxley, McLeod did well against one tough honcho.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 11:53 AM

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Please People

by Fight Doctor 04

A takedown is not anything to give anyone the advantage for. When someone goes for the takedown in a fight it's because they are quitting and not willing to fight anymore. If anything you deduct from the decision for that because it is cowardly.

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Huxley landed more punches?

by HawksFan4Life

I didn't see any punches connect... unless you want to count ones to the back of the head, which shouldn't count in the first place.

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The Chiefs should go watch "Miracle"

by ChiefsFanJon

I just got back and that was a GREAT movie. Very inspiring. You Canadian fans may not get the same inspiration or joy out of watching it but I think that the Chiefs need to see this movie to show how much those guys wanted to play and how hard they worked to achieve their goal. While Canadian fans may not be as excited watching the US's triumph in this movie ALL hockey fans should see this movie. GREAT GREAT Movie.

GO CHIEFS GO

GO USA GO

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typical over-patriotic American

by Canada #1

It's a movie dude calm down, you people have no idea what "real hockey" is all about. It ain't about hollywood, the Russians threw that game. You people couldn't win gold at the Special Olympics for goodness sake.

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Why would the Russians throw the game?

by Kamfan

I'm sure they would've liked nothing better than to clobber their cold war enemies on their turf.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:48 PM

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The government

by Canada #1

Huge odds in Vegas and London made for healthy pay day as the money filtered back to the Red Army and $2000 per player. Let me get this straight your buying the fact that they beat the NHL all stars and lost to a college team when it counted. Kamfan go look in the mirror and tell yourself with a straight face you buy it, I don't.

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And the game against the NHL all-stars "counted" how?

by Kamfan

The NHLers were right smack in the middle of their season. Why would they risk injury without even national pride to play for? They understandably coasted.

And like Tikhonov wouldn't have been killed as soon as he set foot back in the Soviet Union if he allowed the players to throw the game. And he must have been in on it, right? Since he pulled Tretiak? $2000 per player? Peanuts compared to the importance the Soviet government put on its superiority in sports.

Why is it so hard to believe the US could beat USSR? There were plenty of good players on the US team, future NHLers (Morrow won the cup a few months later). Plus Myshkin came in cold and was a weak goalie (by Soviet standards) anyway.

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Honestly...

by Kamfan

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I've always had my doubts about the win, but there are too many strikes against the conspiracy theory for me to buy in completely.

Maybe it was legit, maybe it wasn't. Regardless, I've always been of the mindset to keep quiet and let the Americans have this one.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 6:19 PM

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Russia outshot the USA 39-16.....

by Kauna

or was it 36-19. One of the two. Anyway, that doesn't sound like a team trying to lose!!! That's why it's been called the Miracle On Ice, because the US won a game they weren't supposed to. I don't by for a single second that Russia intentionally lost a game, on the worlds biggest stage, on American ice against the Americans. One of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Jim Craig stood on his head in net. If he is average, Russia wins 7-4, and this stupid assumption of them throwing the game can go out the window.

I saw the movie, and loved it. I have read interviews with Jim Craig and Jack O'Callahan, and they both said the movie is almost exactly as it happened...except for the fight at practise.

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I feel sorry for you if that is truly your attitude.

by ChiefsFanJon

I love Canada and the USA...there was no reason to bash me like that. I really hope that making that post made your day a little better because from the sound of it you could use a little happiness in your life.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:53 PM

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Sorry for me?

by Canada #1

I have the Gold medal game from the last olympics so I'll be fine. If you need someone to stroke your ego you always have Fox news, that should cheer you up.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:59 PM

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Re: Sorry for me?

by Chiefs 215

I feel sorry for you too. There is obviously alot of jealousy there concerning the USA. Why else would you be an awful person and put someone else or their country down for no good reason?

I'd be ashamed if I were you.


Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:27 PM

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We can't help it, we're Canadian.

by Proud Canadian

Someone pass the doobie!

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:59 AM

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Let's try to avoid turning this into a Canada- or America-Bashing thread. Thanks. NM

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NM

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 6:08 PM

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DUH threw the game?

by dfg

Thats a theory that belongs right up there with all the pictures of people on the moon are fake.

No the Russians did not throw the game. They were over confident and that was truly a very good U.S. team. A number of players stayed out of the N.H.L. until afterwards just to play for team U.S.A. I watched those games and the States desired the win and their Medal. Another Canadian fan

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 6:29 PM

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Re: DUH threw the game?

by USA Patriot

Actually I have heard through the grapevine that same thing, they threw the game for money, its not that hard to comprehend.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 7:50 PM

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O Yes The Ruskies Bribed Jim Craig To Be Brilliant...

by Mr Hockey

Thats the stupidest thing i have ever ever heard...Did you even watch that game...and no i dont mean the movie....i bet you were not even born.....

Bottom line the Russians were the better team....and they even played better that game....Jim Craig was unbelievable and stole the game...Thats why its called a Miracle you idiot.....

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 1:45 PM

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24 years and still jealous...

by GCG

I thought when your Pros finally won Gold, this would stop. Not. Get over it.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 3:02 PM

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Re: The Chiefs should go watch &quote;Miracle&quote;

by Unbias Fan

Most of the players on Spokane are Canadians, so how would that inspire them? Maybe you should suggest they go watch Canada kick USA's butt in the last olympics instead.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 7:54 PM

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Or maybe watch the under 18 gold metal match

by SpokaneSTH

Im sure the Canadian kids threw that game too. Fluery was paid off to let those goals go in. Come on there is no need for such negativity. Hockey is still Canada's sport. We americans just can sell it better. Sorry just playing around. I love the game to or at thirty one years old I wouldnt have had season tickets since I was 20.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:41 PM

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Wouldn't that be under 20 (and "medal")? (nm)

by Kamfan

nm

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:56 PM

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YES MY BAD THANKS NM

by SpokaneSTH

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Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:09 AM

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Regular Season

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I'm a long time tigers fan and I have a question for all the fans of the WHL.
In your opinion what will the LEAGUE standing be at seasons end? (Predictions)
I personally think Kelowna has 1srt hands down but then lately they have started struggling.
who will get second?
Swift Current, Medicine Hat, Prince Albert, Moose Jaw are all VERY close.
my prediction for top 5:
Kelowna
Medicine Hat <Home team bias?>
Swift Current
Prince Albert
Moose Jaw
Lets keep it friendly.
Thanks.

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Re: Regular Season

by Ryan

Kelowna
Swift Current
Prince Albert
Medicine Hat
Everett (home team bias?) lol ;P

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:01 PM

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Everett

by HawksFan4Life

has no where near the amount of points as the other teams listed do. Ryan, you're crazy.

Back to the question... I really wouldn't be suprised if Swift Current or Medicine Hat pass up Kelowna in points.

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tri will beat up on MJ tonight

by d04

Was at the game last night and saw Spokane give the game away to MJ. Spokane played good hockey most but was unable to beat the hot goalie and spokes goalie was soft. No such luck tonight for MJ. Tri is a much much better team than spokane. MJ will have to step up thier game if they want to beat tri cities. Don't think they can.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 12:53 PM

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So Tri-Cities record is an accident or what??

by Warrior

You make it sound like Tri-Cities is a great team. Their record is two games over five hundered. To me that seems to say that they are not that great of a team. Or is the record just an accident? Moose Jaw may have difficulty only due to fact that this is a long road trip but Moose Jaw's record is no accident so I would not be in a real hurry to give the Americans the 2 points. We will see though.

GO WARRIORS!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:31 PM

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im calling a tie in the gameand a win to macfferty

by 2fast

i think it will end a 3-3 tie,and the 2 heavies will go in the 1st peroid,im calling a win to big cam but who knows kenny can suprise u hes the same size as cam and can throw left or right so it should be interesting,but i know the tri city fans will get there moneys worth watching flieshmann and brodz that i can guarentee.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:57 PM

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MJ plays in a weak division.

by Reptile

U.S. much tougher than East.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 4:23 PM

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Dont know where you get your info from - where's the facts - -

by CCC

to backup your bold statememt?

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 4:57 PM

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U.S. division is 12-3-1 vs. the East. Need more? nm

by Reptile

nm

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 6:26 PM

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Actually 12-4-1

by Kamfan

Saskatoon beat TC, MJ beat Spokane, and PA beat Seattle & Spokane.

But more importantly, I think it's worth mentioning that every one of these 17 games was played in US Division arenas. Send each of the US Division teams out on a long eastern road trip and I'd wager that record would even out a bit.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 9:52 PM

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Now it's 13-4-1. Not too shabby. nm

by Reptile

nm

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:12 PM

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Actually I included tonight's TC win over MJ, still 12-4-1

by Kamfan

PA went 2-3
Saskatoon 1-3-1
Regina 0-5
MJ 1-1 (so far)
Brandon has yet to play the US Division

Unless I'm missing something, that's 12-4-1.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:58 PM

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Still not too shabby

by Kamfan

But like I said, I've got a feeling the matchup wouldn't be so lopsided if you evened out the home games.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:59 PM

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Re: Actually 12-4-1

by Probot

i agree kamfan... its much different if the us teams were the visitors. whats the us divisions record against the central?

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:28 PM

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AMS beat M.J. tonight 3-1. nm

by Reptile

nm

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:48 PM

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U.S. division did well on Central road trip.....

by Reptile

....in which each U.S. team played 5 games in as few as six nights. The five teams combined for a record of 9-12-4 withe the U.S. taking 23 points, the Central took 28. Pretty good considering it was early in the season while most of the U.S. teams were still trying to figure things out. I would imagine that the U.S. would be at least five hundred vs. the Central if the roadie were to occur now.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:33 PM

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The weak US division teams ..

by Tipper

The weak US division teams ..
by Tipper



have been beating West/Central/East division teams. Seems like the US is not the weak division as indicated in the past. Sounds like it will be pretty interesting going into the playoffs.


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who cares

by Ace

good luck in the playoffs,not saying your team won't do good in the playoffs but who cares about the stupid arguing about which div. is stronger,means absolutely nothing.div. strength changes from year to year,once a team comes out of their div. they play in the next round and they keep playing for the cup and i don't think you get a one goal advantage before the game starts if you played in a certain div.--good luck to all teams.


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So you are saying Tri-Cities can't beat the teams regularly in the "much tougher division"

by Warrior

Anyway you cut it I have a hard time believing that Tri-Cities is a better team than Moose Jaw. All things equal Tri-Cities will lose tonight.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:20 PM

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Re: So you are saying Tri-Cities can't beat the teams regularly in the &quote;much tougher divis

by Probot

they did lose to tri city tonight, and they shouldve lost to spokane last night. all things equal... they arent as great as you think they are ( or the u.s. division is better than you think it is.)

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:20 PM

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www.mjwarriors.ca SITE IS DOWN

by hereinmj

Seems the site is pooped.
Hope someone wakes up and fixes it so we can get the game on the web tonight. Probably took their webmaster with them when they left on the road trip.

Mickey Mouse song coming to mind here!!


Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 12:32 PM

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Officiating Awards

by steve

There seems to be a lot of angst out there about the quality (NOT) of the officiating in the Dub. The league's line is this is a development league and the ref's are learning and growing and trying to get to the next level just like the players. Still, it seems like some are candidates for special recognition--The first Arrested Development Award. Winners will be featured in a "commendation" letter to the commish. Let's hear your top (Bottom) 1, 2, or 3 nominees and why they deserve the award. Mine are:

1. Andrew Guest - clueless, not biased, he calls phantoms and ignores blatant abuse. Like when the player is hooked and hauled down, no call, then flips off the ref as he skates off, again, no call.

Note: NO sour grapes here--the player above was on the other team and the game ended in a tie.

2. Derek Herman - He always has absolute control of the game because he's always interrupting the flow with whatever comes into his head. He's even a "Hit" in the international game, drawing scornful remarks from the 'casters at the World Juniors for "knowing better because of his experience in the western league back home"

What about your nominees--rational, unbiased abuse only--we don't want to sound like our favorites do we?


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Pat Smith

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What is up with calling roughing when a player finishes a check? Yes, it was on Braydon Coburn (my team) but it seems like every time you turn around a player is getting a cross-checking or roughing call for finishing a check. STUPID!!!!!!

Plus, he gave Yashar Farmanara (sorry for butchering that name) a game misconduct (might have changed by now) for turtling last night. again, STUPID!!!!

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This message has been edited by Kenric on Feb 7, 2004 3:21 PM

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:45 AM

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And your post

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is just so intellucutal. He asked for opinions and I gave him one. I am not the only person in the world who is frustrated with players getting roughing or cross-checking calls for finishing their checks. I am not a moron and don't appreciate someone using the nick ANONYMOUS posting crap about me. I have always posted my e-mail address, so why don't you e-mail if you got the guts.

I mentioned Braydon because it happened to him last night. I mentioned him as an example. I think he is overrated but again I had the guts to use my nick and post my e-mail address.

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Both ways!

by the King

First HockeyJen sounds like anonymous really has a crush on you. Love stinks eh! Next anonynous try posting Loveanonymous? HockeyJen brutal called game last night in Seattle. I had the pleasure to sit with part of Red Robin Crew of Portland. I guarantee the Crew just shook there heads. Barthel checks a player into the boards-a beauty check and its a penalty? Johner comes out of a scrum bleeding and spitting blood out of mouth(two minutes right) NO that should of been 5 major and Game Misconduct or at least a double minor. The head hunting job by May oh my hangover! Seattle certainly weren't choir boys either. But must have to admit the ref. butchered the game which in turn, turned ugly(they way I like it). Ugly hockey the only way to play.

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No love talk

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please!!!! Just what a need, a stalker. I didn't know Johner got hit that hard. Scooter is great at calling the games but sometimes he does miss somethings. I just am really frustrated at the ref's calling all these beauty checks. Clean hits are now roughing and cross-checking. Is this a new rule? It really messes up the game! I love the physical tough games they are the best.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 12:26 PM

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Scooter and the game

by ferone7

So I take it Scooter made no mention of May cross checking Johner in the head well away from the play? It was the most blatant attempt to injure and cheap shot I have seen in this league since Keisman cross checked kelman in the mouth. And you talk about Farmanara turtling? What about May who turtled when Huxley dropped his gloves and was set on retribution for what he did to Johner? What a gutless puke May is, does something incredibly stupid (how old is he by the way?) and then isn't man enough to stand up for himself, so instead he gets his teammates involved in fights and scrums because he refuses to be a man. I can't remember a bigger coward and big mouth, perfect fit for Portland though.

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I didn't

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say that he didn't mention it, just that I didn't know Johner got hit that hard. I was doing other things around my house while listening to the game.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:20 PM

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Gosh

by meh

"most blatant attempt to injure and cheap shot I have seen in this league"

Wow, Johner must be a real superman then, because he was up and skating right after. Barely even shook his head once he stood up.

May's stick was up, no question. But "most blatant attempt to injure and cheap shot" you have ever seen? Musta been your first game then, because worse stuff happens every night in every game. I think even Johner would agree with me on that.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 2:45 PM

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Meh?

by the King

I think if you read your own post the answer is there. If you watch hockey you would know that Johner is a little fireplug! Personally don't know if I would use that language that Ferone7 used, but I will say it defiantly could of come out of SLAPSHOT. Did you stand and salute when I said SLAPSHOT(thata boy). One more question, when you draw blood don't you get either a five minute major and game misconduct or a double minor? Johner was spitting blood on another incident-two minute minor unreal unbelievable. You do know the rules right? Answer the question? Five minutes and game misconduct or at least a double minor. What you say it depends what the referee saw? The puck was between his feet of course the ref. saw it, plus linemen can call major-infractions also. The question will be answered tonight!!!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 3:15 PM

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uh....WHAT?

by meh

Answer the question? WHAT question? Your post was so incoherent I don't even know what to say. I can't tell if you're trying to make a point or just mumbling to yourself.

Hey, I saw May's stick get up on Johner and no doubt he deserved a penalty, even a major or a double minor, but to call it the "most blatant intent to injure and cheapest shot ever" is sheer idiocy. If anyone thinks THAT was the cheapest shot they've ever seen, they obviously don't watch much hockey.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 3:30 PM

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And...

by meh

I own Slapshot on DVD and play pickup hockey in a Chiefs jersey. (And I'm a girl.)

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 3:32 PM

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meh

by the King

Sorry should of included thata a boy-girl. Thanks for answering my question about penalty when Johner was spitting out blood. It should of been 5-gamer or double minor! At least we agree there. Incoherent or mumbling to him or herself=the King your right! I'm guilty.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 3:50 PM

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Okey dokey

by mrh

Sorry if I was a little harsh about the rambling, I know you weren't doing it on purpose.

Yes, I think we are at least in the same ballpark on the May-Johner issue.

Should be a hell of a game tonight at the Rose Garden...the entire lower bowl is sold (12,000) and the 300-level is open.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 4:02 PM

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It's just more favoritism for weak teams like Everett. Try checking those.......

by Reptile

....jokers and see what happens. If the league prevents anyone from playing physical and hitting by calling weak penalties, yet allows all of the interference and crap, what kind of game do you end up with after a while? PUKE
The league is going to turn EURO pretty quick. They have allowed their officiating crews to piss people off to the point that drastically changing the playing surface and reducing the physical game is going to get slipped by, allowing them to turn the game more international.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 4:40 PM

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Smith "clueless"

by Steve RR crew mem.

had no idea last eve. what was going on in his head, actually if anything at all. Mr. May very bad move, yet there was some stick work earlier from Johner, yet still May clearly high-sticked with "intent". Smith was plain horrible when whistle blew most times I had no idea what call he would make or which team it'd be against. King a pleasure as always, very nice to see "return" of your "relatives" Q and E ha! HA!, Stu and don't know other nicks, still great to see all. H-Jen not sure what Scooter said, but bottom line Hawks left game stuck in traffic, along with Birds having a "long wait" in locker room. Birds had PP working well and cashed chances, Hawks didn't and thus two points deserved more by Birds.

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Absolutely...

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agree with ya, the T-Birds outplayed and outshot us last night. They deserved to win. I said it in an earlier post but I think that Seattle itching for a play-off spot and the Hawks smarting over last night's loss should make for a great game tonight.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:07 PM

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Officiating

by GoTigers

On the other end of the scale, who's the best ref in the dub right now? Who would you like reffing the seventh game of a playoff series for your team?

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 3:10 PM

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Holy smokes so it is not just MJ fans who complain about officiating

by Warrior

So often on here do I see people criticizing Moose Jaw fans for criticizing officiating. Good to see others think WHL officiating sucks too. I know that there are people at the Crushed Can who scream for a penalty where there is none but I think that all teams have some of those fans. The majority of fans in Moose Jaw and I think elswhere are driven crazy by the horrible inconsistancy (incompetence) of these officials that ruins the game for the fans and players.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 3:33 PM

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I think

by

every fan has at least once in their lives complained about officiating. If they say they haven't they are LYING! I just try not to blame the officials for our team losing. Yeah, we got some bad calls, but so did Seattle.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 4:01 PM

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I would suggest the problem is not just the officials but -

by CCC

There are thousands of fans and possibly including yourself who have never obtained and sat down and read a Hockey Rule book. Interpretation of rules can be very confusing for many who have never read a rule book. Its a good exercise, go to your local library and borrow an up-to-date version of a hockey rule book. I will guarantee you will enjoy the game that much more. Now keep in mind, I was an hockey official in many leagues, including the original WHL - and there are still some calls that I can consider questionable. You will never have complete interpretation of all rules being the same. Officals are only human and their decisions are a split second decision.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:11 PM

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For most bad calls (non-calls) I do not need a rule book

by Warrior

When a guy is hit in the face with a high stick and the official looks right at it that is a penalty, in the third period just like it is in the first. However, more than once I have seen this not called in the third or overtime. Who needs a rule book to make that call? Why is some blatant hooking called and other blatant hooks allowed? Incompetence is why. Who needs a rule book to know what hooking is? Make the calls and most of all be consistant. Sure they are human but they officiating night in and night out not once or twice a month. They get paid and there should be some accountability for incompetence. Do not hide behind the rule book.

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Dont hide behind your ignorance of the rules either!!!! nm

by CCC

nm

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 6:45 PM

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OK using the example of non- calls on high sticking CCC

by Warrior

Can you please explain to me how reading the rule book would help me to understand why the officials repeatedly do not call this even when they are looking right at it. That is just one example of a non call that is completely indefensable. Second example, how would reading the rule book help me understand why a holding call that is made in the first is not made in the third? I do not believe that it says in the rule book anything about how to call a game depending on the period or situation. Does it say anywhere in the rule book that the number of penalty minutes for each team should be close to equal at the end of the game. I don't think so. Yet you see it often where the official calls ridiculous make up penalties just to make sure that the number of penalties called on each team is relatively equal.

These are just three of many examples of crappy officiating that WHL fans see frequently. I would like you to explain how the rule book could justify any of these crappy calls.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 7:12 PM

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I will try and explain, if you will take the time to listen - OK

by CCC

Not all so called high stick infractions are exactly the same.Some people seem to think an stick in the face should not be called unless they "draw blood" - well the word blood does not even come up in any Hockey rule book. Its a descretion call by any referee whether the high stick deems a penalty or not. Some of these sticks dont even come near the face, the other player can make it look like it did. All "holding" is not actually holding, maybe in your eyes it is. I dont think any official that makes what you call ridiculous makeup penalties would be in this league for very long. Any call in a hockey game is a discrection call, you might think they are all crappy calls, but it is the descrection of the official. What I am trying to say here is, you seem to be really down on the officials and I will admit it is not an easy job to satisfy every fan in the rink. Your calling them makeup penalties, but there is no mention of a makeup penalty in the rule book. I simply dont agree with you that the officiating is as bad as you make it out to be. I can tell you right now, there is no hockey official that will know exactly or even close to how many penalty minutes have been called against each team at any given time in any game. They dont even see the game sheets between periods. I have tried to explain this to you the best I can - being an ex official, at first I tended to watch the officiating and not the hockey game. I have since change my attitude and watch the players play the game, and not pay too much attention to the officials. Yes, they can be aggravating especially linesmen that mess around in the face off circles and kick one of the players out, then when the othe player moves in, he moves worse than the initial guy did. To sum it up, we are dealing with human beings, and human beings make mistakes - I suggest you have made a few mistakes in your life and learned from them. I dont know whether I got may point across or not, but thanks for the interesting thought on officiating.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:59 PM

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A penalty in the first is not a penalty in the third

by cookiejar

I have sat back now for that last year reading some messages that make no sense. I a referee calls to many penalties then he is killing the game. If he chooses to let somethning go then he is horrible. If he calls something in OT then he was a factor (never the player that did the infraction). If he lets it go then again we chastize him.

I too have refed in many leagues for many years. As a referee you are never right. A penalty in the first in not a penalty in the third. If you did know the rules you would know that the officials not only call the rule, but are obligated to call the Rule Enphesis of each league. It could be Obstruction. People think this is a weak call. The official has no choice but to call this infraction. Was the high stick on a follow through? If it was then there is no call, whether the player beeds to death or not.

I watch all these offials in my area and in other communities. For the most part they do a great job. How many times have you posted Smith's or Guest's name on this board, for doing a bad job. Can't remember. We never hold players to account just the officials. What a cop out!

All you fans have such a passion for you teams play that, they can do no wrong. Passion is great, but keep it in perspective. You have a vested interest.

Cookie

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 10:55 AM

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Smith

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Yes I agree smith average night is a bad one.
I sit next to staff at the medicine hat arena and we BOTH think smith is horrible.
Is he watching the same Game we are?
I understand that if both go down no call...
I understand that Retaliation is called more than the initial incident.
But how do you call a body check roughing on one side and roughing a body check on the other?
My opinion...
Thanks

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Andy Thiessen

by Hawks

HORRIBLE!

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Re: Smith

by spago

which Smith???

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:52 PM

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Re: Officiating Awards

by Ryan

great post, its great the someone finally stepped up and highlighted the lack of quality officiating in this league...

although i dont really know any officials names, i see and hear bad calls everyday!! in fact everett lost last night in overtime because of a questionable call, vancouver dude was all over our goalie, took him out in the crease, but still awarded them the goal, and i see players holding sticks all the time and see opposing team get called for hooking, just dumb stuff like that.

so again, great post, hopefully "da dub" will someday do something about it.

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Red line report , where do I find it

by Curly

tks

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:36 AM

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You have to buy it.

by The Pucks

do a search for redline report, then shell out the big bucks.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:44 AM

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Raiders

by saskfan

Good on tv last nite. I think the Raiders could sure use chipchura back the line up any idea when he will be back or is it more serious than what we are being told?

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 7:04 AM

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Brown Paper Bag Freaks!

by Sec 117

To the Brown Paper Bag Freaks-

Don't get pissed off because somebody comes along and takes the bag of your ugly face. If you can make a statement wearing a brown paper bag, someone else can make a statement by pulling it off.

I understand that the chiefs losing is very frustrating, but I found that to be very insulting! Just because some one joking posted it on the board didn't mean for you to actually go do it.

Thanks for the emabarrassment. That's more an embarrassing than any of the chiefs games I've been too!

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Great way to make a statement.

by DropThePuck

Many other Chiefs fans feel the same way about the situation. I don't know that Conroy turned around and seen the Bag Freaks, but from where Spelts sits up in the press box, he is sure to have taken note. After seeing the Chiefs get scored on while they were on a 5 on 3 powerplay, I wish had my own bag to hide my face in shame. Maybe Bobby Brett seen this statement and will finally make the changes he needs to make, if not this year, hopefully before next season.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:10 AM

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"Fans" like that are disgusting!!

by 117 ticketholder

I also sit in 117 and was very embarassed to see these two people sitting with bags on their heads. It was humiliating for the players, fans, and the organization. The team is down right now and that is not something they need on their home ice. We need to support these kids, not hide our faces.

Congratulations to the person who ripped the bag off their heads!!

If you are too embarassed to be at the games, don't come.

GO CHIEFS GO!!!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:42 PM

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The Freaks left the game

by Sec 117

early tonight. I think they may have left before 3rd period. I know there was a lot of time left in 3rd when I noticed they were gone.

What are they ashamed now that we won?????? Make up your mind dude!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:36 PM

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Tips front office strikes again

by TipsFan111

Interested if any other teams have done this. Seems very unethical.

Tips sent a letter to their season ticket holders today asking us to sign a two year contract to lock in our ticket prices the next two seasons. The letter states that "There is no guarantee that the price of your season tickets will not increase ..."

I don't mind signing a contract for two years, but I want to know that the price IS increasing. Am I nuts?

If anything their front row pricing (first three rows) should be decreasing as its way high compared to the rest of the league.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:04 AM

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First time I have ever heard of something like that happening in the history of the league

by N.W. Bruin

That is having to sign a contract to keep seats for multiple years. I believe some NHL clubs may have something along that line for certain seats (like a membership for five years or so). But not the entire season ticket base of fans.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:25 AM

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Its just an option

by Fido

If you don't like it, don't do it. But in 2 years from now when your tickets are a little higher don't complain about it!!!!!!!!!

I think it is a great option

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:35 AM

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Budget

by Fiddle Faddle

Season Ticket prices are based on the teams budget, how in the hell are the tips supposed to know what their budget is going to be in 2005-2006. They are offering this to you as a courtesy as a way of guaranteeing your seat prices no matter what happens. I am sure if ticket prices go down you will get some sort of compensation, but if they go up you are guaranteed to not pay anymore that you already have for Season TIckets. You are reading way to far into this.

It is a courtesy that the Tips are extending to you. Its also a good way top guarantee that there season ticket base will stay the same or increase. IF you have a problem with it call the Tips office and discuss it with them, who cares what other teams do, the tips must be doing something right, they are 3rd in the league in attendance!

Call Keith Armstrong or Zoran Rajcic at 425-252-5100

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:41 AM

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Do Tippy Fans Still Think That Yuill Is The Man?

by Grapes Disciple

All season, T-Bird fans have heard that Yuill is the personification of a brilliant franchise owner, and Farwell is the buffoon who has run the Birds into the ground. Well, it looks like you Tip fans got played after all. So, tell us again how Yuill is such a super swell guy?

Here's his three year plan in a nutshell:

1. Build extremely competitive first year team by loading up on 18-20 year olds. Do this at the expense of developing younger players (Tips have one 16 year old who has played in about half of their games and a negligible contibution from 17 year olds).

2. Play ultra conservative style of game in order to keep team in close games and maximize points. Boring style shouldn't deter too many fans since we are the new kid in town and people are curious and still want to come out and check us out.

3. Capture all of the enthusiasm generated by the early success of the franchise by landing all of the fans (two year contract) who have taken the bait and now might be trying to spit out the hook. Landing them now is key because of the realization that the next couple of years could be painful on the ice. On ice will struggle because of: no top five goalie named Harvey, only three overage, no top five pick in bantam draft this year, no devalopment of youngsters.

4. Adjust ticket price over the next two years as needed to somewhat match the win loss record of the team.

5. Prospect for other cities to develop, leap frog up the I-5 corridor, and prepare to leave Everett in the dust in about ten years (hmmm, Victoria?).

So sign your little contracts Tippy fans and get landed, clubbed, gaffed, and bled by your owner who you think is such a god. My guess is that he will not raise ticket prices because they are already over priced, and when the team starts struggling and the novelty wears off people won't show up.

My other guess is that on the letter that you received yesterday, it had some cheesy language about "locking up your seat for the most successful expansion franchis in league history." Some of you will be agile enough to spit out the hook and swim away. The rest, well you're just a bunch of suckerfish.

GO Birds!!!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:47 AM

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?

by Oingo Boingo

Maybe you should worry about your own team, especially since they are still in last place

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:14 PM

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Thanks for Reading My Post...

by Grapes Disciple

and having such an insightful response, you flippin' maroon.

You had the typical 8th grade one liner, trying to divert attention from the topic at hand. Start a post and tell me how my Birds suck. I'll trade posts with you and run you right into the ground every day of the week.

Go Birds!!!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:20 PM

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Marketing

by Oingo Boingo

Lets talk Marketing:

Explain to me why the Birds only get 5200 people in the building on a Friday Night against Portland. In Everett Tonight there will be 8000 for the game against Vancouver and over 10000 for the game in Portland against your mighty powerful T-Birds

Tell me how that happens?

I got an answer. The team is not marketable...and does nothing to dis-prove that. An ad in the Seattle Times designed by a 5th grader at Quenn Anne Elementary doesn't work

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:30 PM

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Part of the

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low crowd was due to a 50 car pile up that closed down I-5 last night for hours. The hawks didn't get into town until after 7 p.m. That could have had a little something to do with the low attendanc, at least last night.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:40 PM

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Novelty affect

by Bo Jackson

Just look at the TCA attendance in the first few years and now it sucks. So before you start projecting franchise stength try making through a couple of seasons.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:42 PM

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You Better Be Filling The Building This Year

by Grapes Disciple

What expansion team hasn't been able to fill a large percentage of their seats? Especially, since you guys are trying for the best expansion record in league history (see steps one and two of the business plan), you should be packing that place to the rafters every night.

Yeah, hooray for the Tips, the new kid in town is out drawing a last place team 30 miles down the road. These are facts that only an ostrich wouldn't agree with. Now if you try to focus for a second and look down the road maybe you'll start to see what's coming. And, if you need something clearer to visualize, go back and read the letter again that you got two days ago.

The T-Birds/Breakers have been in Seattle for over a quarter century. They've had to play second fiddle in their own building and about fifth string in Seattle's sports landscape since their inception but they've survived. Your little Tippies are the A1 only gig in town but do you see them still thriving in 25 years the way they are now. In a couple of years, you'll be really stoked when you get 5200 to show up in Everett on a Friday night.

Go Birds!!!



Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 2:36 PM

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RE: Marketing

by steviey

At least the Birds use their own players in the print ads. Ever seen the Tips ad? They don't even use their own players, just some generic ad. Woo freakin' hoo -- yeah, that's great marketing there.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 9:00 AM

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Stupid move.

by Reptile

That's what killed the Tri-City Dustdevils minor league baseball team for their first couple of years. The previous WBL team drew better. Before the first season in Tri, Dustdevil management tried to tie people into multi-year contracts and the season ticket numbers dropped. I know that many people just decided to forget about buying tickets for this reason alone. Then they went so far as to NOT SELL box seats to single games DURING the season. They said that the box seats were only available as season tickets. That was my last game. I intended on buying 6 tickets that cost $12.00 or something like that, but they would only sell bleacher seats. I spent $30.00 instead of $72.00 because they wanted to blackmail people into buying season tickets.
Needless to say, but they did reverse this policy when they started figuring out how stupid it was. It's too bad they did things that way because it made so many people mad that their attendance has sucked ever since.
It would be too bad if this policy, combined with boring hockey, damages Everett's already shaky attendence for an expansion team.

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portland got stomped tonite.

by splays2win

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portlands may is a cheap shot turtle boy.

by splays2win

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Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:51 PM

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May and "No Action" Jackson

by T-Bird Analyst

May decides to cheap shot Johner with an elbow to the head in the 3rd period, would anyone on Seattle retaliate? Well, Huxley wouldn't let May get away with it and near the Portland goal Huxley attacked May and Mr. Lippy May turtled so as not to get pummeled. The linesman broke it up quick and on the way to the box, "No Action" CJ Jackson decides to take a run at Huxley. Of course there were linesman around because "No Action" wouldn't attempt to take on Huxley without the ice police close by.

Portland was real chippy tonight and didn't hear much from "Little" Snake after his bout with Huxley in the 1st period. Had to give the decision to Huxley in that bout. Seattle is only 6 points behind Spokane. Can they catch them? Stranger things have happened in this league.

Final question. Why doesn't anyone on Portland ever go after Clayton Barthel?



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they won't go after him

by juva

because the image of Jackson's face being a punching bag when he fought Barthel is still fresh in their minds. the hawks obviously didn't spent that extra hour stuck on the bus going over their game plan did they?

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 9:44 AM

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It's funny how..

by HawksFan4Life

Seattle fans only talk trash when they win.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:04 AM

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IT'S FUNNY!!

by the King

That Red Robin Crew of Portland leaves out of town after another whooping. No pizza just hit the road. This is fact not getting cocky. Not after this year! But with Seattle having key games against U.S. division teams at home all they have to do is take care of business(kinda of cocky eh). Spokane watch out the dirty little birds are in the hunt(cocky). Playing possum most of the year is not the way to do it(truth)!! Last night's Birds looked hungry-mean-bloodied but came away victorious(fact). Watch out if this flock keep's flying this direction(hopeful).

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Seattle

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outplayed us last night, totally agree. They deserved to win. Seattle is really making a play for a play-off spot and I think it makes for a great hockey game. Hopefully, tonight we will get two points and keep edging towards first place. Tonight's game I hope is physical and just plain ole' fun. GO HAWKS!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:13 AM

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I'm glad..

by HawksFan4Life

that the game tonight is on tv. I don't like to deal with the big crowds at Hawks games.. usually because I don't buy my tickets in advance and so that means I can't get my favorite spot (section 117 or 118 in the Rose Garden).. but if I can get seats in my favorite spot, then I don't mind large crowds.. kinda makes the game more fun actually.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:40 AM

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Going to Everett

by the King

Stu107, Erik of Skittle(maybe), 103(if I drive) are going to Everett tonight. If they win two points MAYBE in first place! We are lucky enough to have good friends coming down from Vancouver B.C. We will eat after game, our favorite hideout eh! No Micky D's Mr. Bill of Everett. Mr. Bill you got some meat with your potatoes last night(old-time T-bird pounding eh)! Talked with the wife this morning sounds like no meat tonight and plenty of instant potatoes for you(yuck)! Furthermore enough of WHO's in first crap. Hey Jen do you ever go on road trips? Seattle or Everett??

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 12:00 PM

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Usually,

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I have class or work so I haven't got to go on any road tips yet. But next season I am hoping to get to a few. Living on a student budget, not a lot of extra $$$ right now! Hey, tell me where the good seats are in the arena's, and don't lie and put me by the drunk obnoxious fans who are going to comment on my boobs, all right? LOL Happened last season at a Hawks game plus they spilled beer all over me. Imagine that, drunk and obnoxious sports fans.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 12:09 PM

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Huuuuh!

by the King

Simple answer 107 We will always take care of our friends from other teams. Sorry about someone spilling beer, that sucks, our beer is to expensive to spill. By the way 107 is behind the north goal, go as high as you can like row 25-27(you do have to look though netting). By the way Seattle plays Portland Friday Feb. 27(no game in Everett). We always join the Red Robin Crew of Portland(do you know who they are)? If not just go to Red Robin three four blocks due east from Rose Garden. Walk into BAR area and yell out "Where's the Red Robin Crew" they are very nice people(except Terrance of Winterhawks)!!! Watch out for this big mouth! They will be there tonite. When I come down later this month I will be wearing a Vancouver Giants Home R. Big Snake Jersey. See yah!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 12:35 PM

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Hey do you

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ever post on the Oregonlive forum under the name BEARMAN123? He comes on occassionally asking about Snake. I assume you like Snake. He is really nice and I love how he will stop and sign every single autograph for the fans. I don't know the Red Robin crew. Where do they usually sit, besides the bar at Red Robin?

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One and only sometimes!

by the King

Answers:
1. No But did post on Hawkey Talk Look at #5, look at date posted??
2. Yes Jerseys are on www.whljerseys.com Both jerseys are signed on fight-strap.
3. I believe eight to ten rows up from ice-north end behind goal.
4. Hope to meet you someday, promise I'm not a stalkeranonymous!!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:42 PM

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The winner is?

by the King

Stu107 bet the King that 103 would go tonight(Everett) 103 just called. The bet was a beer each period! The winner the King. Just think stu your lucky its not in Seattle
1. Seattle three periods==$22.25
2. Everett three periods==$16.50

Prediction for tonight Everett 3 Vancouver 2
Seattle 4 Portland 2
Prince George 3 Spokane 2
Moose Jaw 5 Tri City 2

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 4:44 PM

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Left town....

by Steve RR crew mem.

due to late hour and driver instructions. Mea culpa and more apologies, no tail stuck between legs. Birds cashed PP chances and got the points/game. The Mr. Smith show was a bit of a "Twilight zone" flashback, bad, "horrible" calls both ways. Huxley tuned Snake, I don't think Farmanara "turtled" on Funk, May deserved more than a "two" yet stick work from Johner did precede this. We will see what happens in the "ice circle of justice" this eve. too bad you folks will miss. Hope you enjoy the "chess on ice" in Everett perhaps there will be more than twenty shots from both sides. I'd wager against though, yes it should be a dandy in the Garden tonight 14,000 plus, 3rd level open. Both teams rested and ready to go at 7:o4 sharp, no delays. Should be an absolute beauty of a match I know I'll enjoy fully with a Coburn jersey in my hot little hands. See ya all later.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:08 PM

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It's funny...

by juva

Anyone would say that because there have been T-Bird fans all over this board this year....in fact we have plenty to talk about with how poorly we have done. I don't think Jackson being the US Division whipping boy or the fact that he takes a penalty every shift has anything to do with the score or the standings.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 1:18 PM

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Re: portlands may is a cheap shot turtle boy.

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Johner and May are about the same size, so why didn't Johner go after May himself???

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:15 AM

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Huxley and Jackson - Not The Same Size

by Grapes Disciple

So, why didn't Jackson divert Huxley on the face off before Huxley got to May? It was obvious that Huxley was going after May, but CJ didn't have enough sack to go with Hux until he could jump him from behind with the linesmen in between them. I guess sometimes, size just doesn't matter.

Huxley will be front and center all night tonight. Portland can send anyone and everyone his way, and I'm sure that he will oblige. Maybe this time Big Snake won't cheat and shed his jersey. Then again, maybe he will since he knows that's the only way he stands a chance.

Go Birds!!!



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Simple Answer

by ferone7

Your best offesnive player, best penalty killer, best defensive forward in the box for 5 or more minutes, and all Portland loses is a wasted 20 year old who does nothing for his team except take stupid penalties in May? That makes a lot of sense doesn't it? That's why teams have enforcers, to take care of the gutless cowards like May, unfortunately May has no class or guts and decided to see how frozen the ice was instead of standing up like a man.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:20 PM

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Johner

by SeattleFan

If you could have seen his mouth you would know why he didn't defend himself. I didn't know it could swell up that much. I was very surprised that he finished the game. Thought he should have had a full face shield on.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 2:13 PM

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May is a dirty little player and

by Clock Watcher

since he's joined Portland, "The Goon Squad," he's gotten worse. A once esteemed team has turned into a cesspool of misfits. Guess if you can't win on talent you have to stoop down to the cheap level.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 2:20 PM

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Yeah....

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those little no talent goons like Dubinsky, DaSilva, Aldred, Regehr, and Toews. No talent, eh?

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 2:25 PM

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Conroy Strikes Again...What does it take???

by Real Deal

Auchenberg on the point on the PP and the Chiefs again give up a shorthanded goal!!! This coach needs to go!!! only the ref in tonites game was a bigger idiot He was standing next to Zimmerman when he was cut by a high stick he only needed stitches and lost a quart of blood WTF what a huge missed call!!! By the way the Chiefs outworked MJ tonite and deserved the win GO CHIEFS with some good bench coaching this game would have been yours OH WELL WTF

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:33 PM

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Re: Conroy Strikes Again...What does it take???

by ~hockey~

i wish conroy would go away... he sucks... um... so how long did Jason Lynch getta play??? a whole one minute??? he's a really good player but the coach obviously doesn't see that... I hate derek herman... he's gotta be one of the worst ref's next to pat smith... he should have made more calls than just that one... we had a lot of guys who tried though... especially Scotty Lynch... I hope the Chiefs get the win tomorrow.

Go Chiefs Go

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How many powerplays do you guys need ?

by Sudsy

You were on the powerplay over half the first period !

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 9:28 AM

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as bad as mj pp

by ST.PAT

0 for 8 the other night against regina

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:22 AM

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Say story, different night for Spokane.

by not this year in spokane

Say story, different night for Spokane.
by not this year in spokane



Yeah the effort was there more so than in past games. But how can they give up a 5 on 3 short handed goal?? Watt was totally in space when the guy closed in on him. He just wasn't in the game (either was anyone else on the chiefs at that time). His 2nd goal was equally as soft. Watt made some saves, but cost us two goals that were very soft.

The chiefs are a bad team, every night another problem creeps up.

Seattle will overtake spokane within 4 games. Take that to the bank!


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Re: Say story, different night for Spokane.

by probot

i dont know what watt was doing on the second goal... IMO both goals couldve been prevented! oh well though, it just gives a chiefs fans something to b*tch and moan about!

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Re: Conroy Strikes Again...What does it take???

by Probot

while i agree that the ref wasnt the greatest, but the chiefs couldnt score on the 7 powerplays that they had... including a 2 minute 5 on 3 in which they gave up a 2 on 1 shorty. the chiefs got all of the bounces (i dont know how many times the linesman kept the puck in the mj zone for the chiefs), outplayed mj, and still lost. this is a talented team that is in a GIANT RUT right now. they will break out of it if they continue play like they did tonight.

auchenberg has been on the point for the powerplay all year long(while hes been healthy), so dont get on him now. the goal wasnt his fault... scott lynch is more at fault than anyone on the ice. he coulve easily played the puck instead of going for the hit, and letting puck go by.

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Call it the way it is Watt lost that game last night

by Spokane STh

Chiefs deserved to win both goals were soft. The short handed goal was from the top of the circle the second goal watt was flopping around on the ground. The chiefs deserved to win. All of the chiefs fans that said watt was ready to take over the number one spot were way off. Look at what Brust has done in Calgary. How watt got a star last night is beyond me. Good effort though hopefully we will put it all together tonight against PG.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 12:48 PM

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Re: Call it the way it is Watt lost that game last night

by d04

watt gotta star last night?? You've gotta be kidding me!! I completely agree with your takes. But I here brust didn't wanto be hear. Festa deserved to be the numbre 1 goalie now.

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Stars or the game

by upper level fan

3rd... Scott Lynch
2nd... Jim Watt
1st... Brodeur...most deserving

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:58 PM

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re:call it the way

by fairplay

jim did not lose the game for us last night. if any one player should be pointed out it would have to be scott lynch. he was out there skating around like a mite player. not having a clue. the joke of the night was giving lynch a star at all. jim is by far the better goalie on this team. he deserves the start.
GO JIM GO

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 3:01 PM

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You must sit too close to the glass.

by upper level fan

You want to talk about D-man running around like might skaters then look at Engman and not S.Lynch. Engman is just plain ass horrible everytime he steps on the ice. I thought Europeans were supposed to be fast? I remember 3 times last night that when icing got waived off the M.J. player clearly beat Engman to the puck when there shouldn't have even been a race for it. S.lynch made 2 or 3 illadvised passes up the middle, but he hussles harder than any except maybe Kehler. And he probably goes for the hit at times he should just play the puck, but Engman can't do either. So if he didn't deserve a star of the game you tell me wh did other than M.J.'s goalie. Watt made some outstanding save, but the two that went in should have been stopped. Even our biased play by play guy said they were weak on the post game show. Hope Festa starts tonight and hopefully the team plays as hard tonight as last night. See everyone at the game.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 4:24 PM

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re: you must sit too close to the glass

by fairplay

i thought we were talk about stars of the game? don't get me talking about engman.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:13 PM

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Re: re: you must sit too close to the glass

by upper level fan

I take it you agree with my take on Engman. My wife who usually don't get to pay to close attention to the game, because of our daughter being wild, Said why the hell do they keep putting him on the ice. Everytime he either gets beat or falls down then gets beat. That was a great pick for a European for us. Think we will probably have two new Euro's next year unless Langhammer decide to return.

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Same ? applied to Scherger......

by 90-91

Why'd they keep putting that guy on the ice.....and on the starting pairing most of the time.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:24 PM

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Exactly!!!

by upper level fan

That's the most truthful statement I have heard in along time.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:32 PM

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re: re: re: you must sit too close to the glass

by fairplay

like i said, DO NOT get me started with engman or schenn for that matter. we need to have some bright spots on this team and those two are not. i enjoy watching hobson, zimmerman and watt. granted jim had some rough spots last night but look at the d-men in front of him. give the goalies something to work with. as for barry being the best. no doubt. but barry is not there so lets quit beating that died horse. jim is the real deal....

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easy for you to say

by Chief Fan

We sit in the stands and watch but we are not always aware of the behind the scenes. The coaches are trying to change Schenn's style of play and he is really struggling with that. Why do teams keep a player when they do not like their style? Spokane has a history or candy ass D - so why draft a player who is physical and then try to change his style

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goalies

by funny bunny

I am not a big Watt fan but I do have to say that he has been GREAT the past two games he has been in goal. He seems to be picking it up as the games go on. As for being the better goalie - I don't think so. I would still rather have Brust back.

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Jimmy

by Im kind of a puckbunny

Jim did not lose the game last night. He puts his heart and soul into every game he plays and works his ass off for that team! He deserves to be the number one goalie after having to put up with Barry. That's all there is to it. Jim deserved that star last night. Yes, the team deserved to win, but it cannot all be blamed on Jim. The guys just haven't been with it lately. It was a team loss, not just the goalie's.

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Were you watching the game last night

by SpokaneSTH

The first goal with clear vision of the puck that shot from the top of the circle should be stopped the second goal watt dove for the puck when it was about 4 feet away from him and didnt come close to the puck. Both goals were weak. Take them away and the score is one nothing chiefs. Watt did make some nice saves Ill give you that but he should have saved the two that went in. I think Festa has outplayed watt and wont be suprised if he gets the start tonight. Brust Is 6-3-1 with calgary and I believe a few of these one goal games we have had could have easily been wins with Brust in goal.Just the way I see it.I am sure watt plays hard and works hard but he is not up to the level of Brust. Look at the other goalies in our league and the goalie situation could be our down fall come playoff time or coming up short of playoffs.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 3:41 PM

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Jimmy's bunny

by upper level fan

Are you kind of a puck bunny? Or just Watt's girlfriend???There is no doubt Watt should have stopped both those goals last night. He would probably tell you that himself. So why don't you ask him before you post little bunny.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 4:26 PM

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Can't wait to see what Stoesz does tonight......

by 90-91

The kids have been the only bright spot this year.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:04 PM

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Only?

by Mannfan

That I would disagree on...he may be one but not the only. Unless I'm the only one having fun watching Hobson, Zimmerman, Watt (YES on most nights he's been there, last night was another story..) etc. Not disagreeing on Stoesz just don't think the word "only" applies.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:05 PM

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re:only

by fairplay

hobson, zimmerman and watt make the games worth watching.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:18 PM

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Zimmerman

by upper level fan

Like watching him play. It was nice to see him step up and run over that guy in the first period last night. Would like to see him use his size alittle more. But I'm sure that will come when he gets a little more confident. He doesn't come up with big hits, but he always does the right things. He never leaves his Defense assingment. Would like to see them put someone with size with Hobson so he can use his speed a little more and his skills.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:27 PM

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That was Kids....plural.......

by 90-91

Those were exactly the names I had in mind, Mannfan.
With the addition of Reich (& surprises like Zimmerman), this could be a really fun team to watch next year.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:20 PM

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OPPS Sorry....

by Mannfan

I misread that obvioulsy . Agree that the "kids" have been the most fun to watch. Sorry about that..

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:39 PM

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No problem......

by 90-91

Sorry, I should have made that a little more clear, by naming the "kids"

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 2:39 PM

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AMS 3 P.G. 3 ..... All over...... nm

by AMS fan

AMS still on top of the U.S. dog pile.
GO AMS GO!!!

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:28 PM

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How does Kelowna lose to LETHBRIDGE lol

by Kris

n/m

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:11 PM

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it was easy

by stupol

Kelowna doesn't score many goals and when they run into a hot goalie they will lose. Its hard for that team to get offensive,just doesn"t work with there system.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:25 PM

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How can you make fun of Kelowna...it's not like you can win every game.

by ChiefsFanJon

I'm guessing your teams' record isn't as good as the rockets.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:29 PM

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I'm Sorry

by stupol

But I am not making fun of the Rockets ...........just stating my opinion. A defensive team like Kelowna has a hard time when they are behind. They just do not seem to be able to open up.........damn trap

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:44 AM

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Reason Kelowna Lost

by Canes

For one they underestimated the Hurricanes like so many people tend to do. Lately the canes have improved greatly especially under the new coach Lindsey Hoffard. THe hurricanes are also fighting for thier life at this point, so they are gonna play the rest of their games this season like its already playoffs! Way to go guys!


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Re: How does Kelowna lose to LETHBRIDGE lol

by Big-Fan

Well the way it normally works is if you score more goals then Kelowna you get the win.

I hope this helps you with you question.


GO ROCKETS.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:26 AM

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Yes

by stupol

and that to.....seems like if the other teamscores more goals they win.............wow lol

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:46 AM

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video clip...

by LHF

Here is the link to the video clip of the game.

http://www.lethbridgeinsider.com/hurrican/2004-02-06-hi.htm

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 12:35 PM

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Rebs win 3-1 over Broncos

by RDRebelsfan

That's 2 straight wins vs. the Central Leading Broncos. Great job!! I believe now we are in 3rd or tied for 3rd now. It annoys me how the Rebs are called a rebuilding, which they are, but to be really on the nose they are offensively rebuilding, they have the least goals allowed in the east. 28-21-5-2. not too shabby for rebuilding.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:00 PM

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Lets hear about the McAffrey vs Westwood fight

by freud

nm

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 9:01 PM

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More of a lesson than a fight.

by Reptile

George didn't really get a chance to throw a punch, much less land one. Cam grabbed jersey and landed at least one solid punch that caused Westwood to lose his balance. Smack basically let him back up and landed again, causing George to keep his head ducked. It didn't help though. Another big bomb to the side of the head/face (couldn't tell exactly) sent Westwood to the ice. That was it. I thought I saw three good punches land with Cam keeping Westwood on his feet twice until he landed the final punch.
They squared off and circled a bit before going at it, so it was not a case of being jumped or surprised.
Too bad it was so quick. Smack doesn't mess around though. I haven't seen too many guys that have been able to do much when he lands his first punch.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:23 PM

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Well.......

by AMS fan

Cam just about handed him his teeth. Cam pounded him one good one and Westwood droped. The linesmen just about jumped in and Cam PULLED Westwood UP and back into the fight and fed him a few more hard balls and droped him once more for good!
Great fight for CAM!!!
GO AMS GO!!!

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:25 PM

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McCaffery vs. Westwood

by Brad



The Square Off


Smack Loads Up the Left


Westwood Getting Pulled Back to His Feet After the First Knockdown


Fight Ends with Westwood Going Down


Westwood a Bit Dazed


Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 11:55 PM

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McCaffrey

by PR

Why the Blazers (Mike Moore) ever let this guy go in favour of Morrow is a question for the ages!

The thing I like about Cam is that he is a heavyweight with class. He knows when and when not to go and rarely, if ever, makes a mockery of the guy he just tuned after the fight. He usually does that during the fight.

Just my opinion.
PR.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 12:05 AM

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school time for patzack mccaffrey is

by rob

the teacher you heard it hear first bring your smelling salt to the rink tonight cause your goin to need it.



Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 9:21 AM

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Totally agree

by K49

Even as a Rocket fan I have nothing but good things to say about McCaffrey, never saw him dishing out cheap shots or going after non heavies. Every fight I saw him have with Sunderman they would square off and let loose, and usually good even scraps too, it was unfortunate the King fight at Skyreach a while back never really materialized. The guy is a true enforcer.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 10:39 AM

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And Morrow turned into Kyle Sheen, now who would you rather have........

by Glen

on your team?

Haven't looked, but I'd bet Cam has a similar point total as well and is a much bigger deterent when the gloves hit the ice.

Congratualtions Tri-City, I know Kamloops fans appreciated Cam's efforts before Moore's brain cramp!

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 9:12 PM

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Exactly!

by Anonymous

No disrespect to Kyle Sheen, but I would rather have McCaffrey. Well, at least we got rid of Moore this year.

Posted on Feb 9, 2004, 3:08 PM

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Re: McCaffery vs. Westwood

by Anonymous

what a plug... kid couldnt even hold his own in the bchl what was he thinking going to the WHL

Posted on Feb 10, 2004, 11:17 PM

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Blazers 4 Hitmen 3 in OT....nm

by bowis#1

nm

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 8:30 PM

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Seattle vs Portland

by Liggy

does anybody have the score in the t-birds winterhawks game

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 7:52 PM

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Hawks up 1-0 end of 1st....nm

by Shamrock

nm

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 8:42 PM

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SEA 5 POR 2 ..... Turn out the lights nm

by AMS fan

GO AMS GO!!!
Thanks T-Birds for the help!

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:20 PM

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6-2 Final. Go Birds Go. n/m

by B.W.

n/m

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:51 PM

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? about Harding and Brandon

by Big-Fan

since Harding going to Brandon how many games have they won with him in net?

Thank you.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 7:47 PM

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Harding......2 and 6 as a Wheat King.........nm

by Ragingbull

nm

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:13 PM

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Actually...

by Coach

Harding's record since being traded to Brandon is 6 wins, 6 losses, 0 ties, and 1 overtime loss, with 1 shutout.

His GAA is 3.00, and his SV% is .910.

He has been terrific in some games, and below average in others (sort of like the Wheat Kings as a team since his arrival).

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 7:01 AM

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Stats

by Ragingbull

Coach u r right, as usual, I think I was looking at during the recent stretch prior to this week, of course he has played more than 8 games. Where do you go for all your stats? You always are a resource concerning stats...

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 9:04 AM

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WHL site has up-to-date stats...

by Coach

Just click on a player's name, and it gives you a player's year-by-year statistics. Beware that the new statistics software still has some glitches, with the odd player's prior years' numbers being incorrect.

For Brandon stats, their webpage is actually fairly decent for being up-to-date.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:58 AM

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Re: WHL site has up-to-date stats...

by Ragingbull

Thanks. I havent checked out those pages in too much depth, so I will have to check out the stats.

Posted on Feb 8, 2004, 9:57 AM

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refsin tonight'sgame

by from thebasement

Hat's off to mr. klein.Handed a team with more points another win.Hopefully next year the Blades can have a winning season so they can get the same type of reffing other teams get in this league. Something has to be done it's the worst I have seen in a long time being an eleven year season ticket holder.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 7:35 PM

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SUCK IT UP>> READ DOWN<<

by Kris

just cause the blades lose doesnt mean u hafta blame it on the REF'S...

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 9:59 PM

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Reid vs. Shultz

by I enjoy fighting

Reid vs. Shultz
by I enjoy fighting



Does anybody have a recap?


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Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 11:55 PM

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Total wrestling match

by Eastsider

Nothing more, nothing less than that. Neither one could loose from the beginning-----very much a draw.



Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 11:03 AM

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1-0 MJ over Spok Brodziak scores two men short nm

by Warrior

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Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 7:26 PM

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Bourassa scores 2-0 MJ with PA receiving a 3-2 defeat looks good for MJ

by Warrior

Back to first place tie if they can get the job done tonight.

GO WARRIORS!

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 8:15 PM

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Warriors win and tie for first again

by Warrior

Good way to start the trip. Looking for a win against Tri Cities tomorrow night.

GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!!!

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 9:34 PM

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Hawks T-Birds in Seattle delayed

by Nobody

As of 6:50 the Hawks hadn't arrived in Seattle. The were announcing a 7:30 ish start time in the arena.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 7:12 PM

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Hockey night in canada tape delay cherry

by CBC Wimps

because of what he said about the visors and french players and euro players.
My view is that Cherry likes to start things like this to get ubder peoples skin.As for CBC taking the easy way out buy tape delaying Cherry by 7 seconds shows you how French they are.LOL
What happened to freedom of speech?Its not like he showed his breast.LoL
My opinion on the visors is that every player should wear it especially after alot of eye injuries this season.As for Cherry comments l guess if players want to keep there vision they will become wimps in Cherrys eye's.But he is not the one on the ice getting sticks in the face.
They other way to look at it is when you start playing hockey at a young age you wear a full face shield,then when you hit say CHL you wear visors then when you go to the NHL you don't have to wear a visor.My question is if you can wear it during your junior years why can you not wear it in your NHL years.
Does it make you fell less of a man by wearing a visor?
Does it really make you have a hard time seeing the puck?
I say wear a visor.It is like saying to a goalie not to wear a cage on your mask.



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It all started....

by Rocketeer

It all started with minor league hockey. Years ago kids did not have to wear face shields and respected the stickwork. Today's youngsters wear the full protective gear and have "No fear" of being hit by a stick. Hence the fact they have never been self disciplined about keeping the stick down. Suck it up "Players",the times have changed. You were brought up by the game, now live with it. The visor is there for your protection, you are a professional and you should wear as much protective gear as is available. After all a construction worker probably feels silly as well wearing a hard hat, safety glasses, Ear protection, Fall protection, safety boots, tool belt, etcetc. Just part of the "job"

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 5:44 PM

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Just get rid of Cherry like they just about did a year ago ----

by CCC

That would solve the entire problem, and also the networks wouldnt loose a lot of viewers when Cherry comes on - He's just a big bag of hot air tied in the centre and making good bucks doing so. WE DON'T NEED HIM"!!!!!!!

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 6:00 PM

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I so disagree....

by Rocketeer

Don Cherry is not good for hockey...On the contrary, He is great. So he flies of the handle every once in a while, no big deal. He say's it the way it is, Get use to it. In fact He probaby say's a lot of things that many would like to say but because they work in that type of political arena, they are gagged from saying the way it is.
Cherry won't play the game that way.
I am Canadian,
free to speak without fear,
free to worship in my own way,
free to stand for what I think right,
free to oppose what I believe wrong,
and free to choose those who shall govern my country. With this pledge of freedom........
Don Cherry............................ speaks

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 6:12 PM

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Re: I so disagree....

by Unbias Fan

Don Cherry is a racist plain and simple, you Rocketeer need to think if you might be as well.

He pushes the envolope on all sorts of issues live on TV that kids can watch and be effected by and you think thats okay, tell me that your okay with it when someone loses an eye because they don't want to wear visor because DON thinks its for cowards.

Lets not forget the game is still about skill and finese first and a visor doesn't take away from that, I like the fights as well as the next guy but when the big guys want to go they usually shed the helmets anyways.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 8:48 PM

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listen to yourselves....

by stats

these guys are professional athletes, between 18-45 years old. they are grown men, and deserve to have choices in their lives. how would u like it if someone came to your job and told you what to do, how to do it, and forced you to change your ways because of another situation. these guys dont wear visors for many reasons, personally i think they cause more concussions than without. the visor pushes down and strikes the kid in the face creating a jolt to the head and a concussion when they get hit. It's like getting hit with a piece of glass over the head. A stick can do damage, a guy can lose an eye etc. But hossa's visor shattered and did alot of damage to him because of the glass in it. The glass cut him not the puck. I'm sure he would of had stitches either way but without one they could of had less damage. A way to solve this is once players hit midget they should be forced to use a half visor, this way at a young age they know damage from high sticks. Then in junior and pro give them a choice. Pat lafontaine's visor was the reason for all of his concussions as it struck him in the nose directly when he was hit. So there is solid arguements either way.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 11:44 PM

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Re: listen to yourselves....

by Anonymous

You don't get a concussion from getting hit in the nose, you get it from being hit in the head.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:46 AM

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hers a way to check....

by stats

go to your local sports store. put on a helmet with a visor on it as many have on display. then get one of your friends to push the visor down, or forwards. It will hit you right in the face and if he hits u hard enough it will hurt like hell. Look how many guys get cut on the nose and such from visors, as well as pat lafontaine who wore a long visor and it frequently hit him on the nose causing a concussion (don cherry showed this on HNIC) oh and by the way since when isn't the nose part of your head? That's like saying getting hit on the jaw isn't part of your head either. And as far as overpaid geeks go, just because you couldn't make it out of hack Jr.C in hickville, there's no need to be jealous that they make more in one game than you do in an entire year.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:17 AM

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Is it "HNIC" Or "LNIC"

by Bo Jackson

Don is way to Leafy for me. What he said is offensive to some but so what. You don't have to be nice to everyone all the time do you. Don has it right, the way to keep the sticks down is to take away the instigator rule, not mandate visors. What does 2, 4 or 5 minutes mean to a chump. However said chump might look diffrently about having to defend himself against who knows who.

Don Cherry is an icon, if the CBC pisses him off and he leaves it is their loss.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 1:34 PM

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Obviously you have never worked in a Industrial plant = = =

by CCC

You must wear a Hard Hat and safety glasses at all times = you must wear a face shield when grinding and welding - if you don't, your fired and you just dont work there. Same thing should apply to these over paid geeks called - hockey players.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 7:26 AM

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Where'd that come from CCC?

by Agitated

What the hell are you doing on a hockey chat board if you think hockey players are over paid geeks. I shouldn't even respond to your moronic statement,but there's to much fight in me to let it go.

First ; the only way geek should be used in the same sentence as hockey player, is when these hard working athletes are entertaining lazy ass people like yourself.
second; this is a junior hockey board, and these kids make next to nothing, barely pays for their gas, but I know you're referring to Cherry's remark and your shot is at the guys in the show.
If you only knew what those guys go through to get there and then to stay there, I'm sure you would retract your statement. True enough there should be a salary cap, as some of those contracts are getting out of line, but the average salary is well earned. If there wasn't decent money to be made at making it to the show, why would any kid take all the crap that some do to try and get there.
I'm talking about sucking up what abusive coaches dish out, playing hurt through injuries , unlike someone like you that would probably try and get on WCB just so you could get out of going to work. Getting bag skated for something that a couple guys on the team did that was against rules. I have a relative that works as a faller in the logging industy, one of the most hazardous occupations, and he has been hurt less in 15 years then some of these kids in junior. I could go on and on here with stories of what these kids go through trying to achieve their dream, and believe me there is some sickening crap that goes on that only parents of players know about. But I'm not going to waste any more time on you.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 7:54 AM

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well said

by captaincanuckles

couldnt agree more rocketeer, well said

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 10:34 PM

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Please don't use the word "WE"

by Baggy

don't need him. Maybe you don't need him, but I would miss the coaches corner every Saturday night. My hat goes off to any person who speaks what is on thier mind without worrying about being politicaly correct. If you don't like Don Cherry, then it is simple, just don't listen to him. Just maybe you are the type of person he is always talking about.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 6:45 PM

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How can you fault a guy....

by Sec.R

At one time I thought Don Cherry was just an arrogant blowhard, and maybe to some degree he is. But the more I listened to what he was saying the more he grew on me. Honestly, how can anybody hold it against him because he's against euro's playing in North America. I for one absolutely loved the 72 Summit series vs the Russians.
Don is proud to be Canadian and promotes Canadians every chance he gets. I was very proud of Cherry when he tried to make a stand with his Jr. team to not have a euro on his team. He simply stated " why have Canadian kids in the farm system if your not going to draw from the farm."
He was just trying to protect Canadian jobs. What's wrong with that. The parents spend a ton of money and time giving their kids the opprotunity to pursue their dream. The kids put in the time and effort dilligently to be like the player they most admired growing up, you know....playing great North American hockey just like their heroes did before them.

Think about it, what's the difference if a bunch of electricians or plumbers or carpenters or car salesmen, etc. etc. were to come over here and start taking away jobs of people born raised and schooled here. All expenses and taxes were paid by our parents so we got our opprotunities as we do for our kids.

Hockey is a career for many North Americans, yet many euros make their way over here and make teams just because they are a euro. Then the complaining starts on how so many fans hate the way euros use their sticks to spear, slash and hack on our players, or how they won't fight, or how they won't play physical. Many NHL teams will draft a euro over a North American player in hopes that they will possess that Euro magic talent. But when you read the scouting reports on these players, they are criticized about how timid a lot of them are, or their skating needs to improve to play at that level, and how most are 2 to 4 years away.
HELLO, why the hell pass over kids right here that are already ahead of the Euros they hope will get there?

My only criticism of Cherry is that it gets a little old on how great Bobby Orr was. Not to say he wasn't, because that goes without saying, but Cherry beats that to death. I couldn't imagine a coaches corner without him. He represents Canadian Hockey to the fullest, and hats off to him for speaking what many think.

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Generally I like Don Cherry and his tell it like it is attitude,,,,

by Warrior

but putting down those who wear visors is assinine. How can he discourage the use of something that clearly enhances safety. What do you think the chances of guys like Tie Domi actually volunteering to wear a visor when a guy they respect like Cherry would make fun of them for it. Sure Cherry wants to be controversial but he just looks stupid on this issue.

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I agree but

by KIF

CBC is wrong to sensor him. He is a Canadian and that comes with free speach. I disagree with a lot of Cherry's comments but it is his opinion.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 7:29 PM

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If he truly wants free speech . . .

by Cougar Guy

he can invest the millions of dollars it takes to start a TV station, get CRTC approval and knock himself out. Until that point in time, the CBC can do whatever they want to do. No different than any employer restricting the actions of an employee to what they deem appropriate.



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players are over protected

by Flathead

when it comes to equipment, they should go back to no helmets, sears cataloges for shin pads and the 1970's shoulder pads. Players have no respect for each other(could have a little to do with instigating rule too)because they are over protected. Don knows what he's talking about.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 8:51 PM

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Sure players are over protected but they have to protect themselves from dangerous play

by Warrior

Yes the players may feel indestructable due to equipment being like armour. However, how does that make Cherry right to minimize the benefits of visors. Cherry does not know what he is talking about on this point. Does not even make sense to tell people they should not wear a visor if they choose to. I would like anyone who supports Cherry's point of view to explain to me any benefit he could give to not wearing a visor. We all know the benefits but what could anyone say could be a good reason not to wear a visor as Cherry advocates they should not be worn.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 9:14 PM

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protect from dangerous play.

by Flathead

when players weren't dressed in jousting armor, there was no dangerous play, players had respect for one another. Lose the equipment and make way harsher penalties for the actions deemed "dangerous". Bring some respect back into the game and forget about making the players more like a knight in armor.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 12:44 AM

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Right and while you are at it you can tell me how they will eliminate all the clutching

by Warrior

and grabbing. Since the lack of respect has gone so far away I do not see how you get it back under control. Much like all of the clutching and grabbing. The league tries to correct the problem and repeatedly fails because the players have a mindset to clutch and grab now and the league just can't seem to rein it in now. Same thing for the lack of respect. It has gone too far and now the league has a big problem. Until they figure out how to fix it the players need to use the protection available or risk permanent injury.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:36 AM

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Re: If he truly wants free speech . . .

by Unbias Fan

I agree complety cougar guy.

No resume hating me as I will you, you Coougar fan LOL

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 8:55 PM

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Agreed . . . LOL (nm)

by Cougar Guy



Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 9:36 PM

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I think it's hilarious how some people...

by Go Don Cherry

are making a big deal out of Cherry's comments. So what if he said that the only players that wear visors are euro's and French players, wow what a awful thing to say about a french canadian, boo hoo,
I'm going to cry and complain to the CBC, man what a bunch of babies.


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i agree totally

by stats

its not like cherry is taking shots at blacks, or anything like that. its true though, if u compare the amount of french canadian and euro's wearing visors it greatly outnumbers the rest of the players who wear them. When guys like Wayne, Hull, Stevie Y, Lidstrom (euro), shanahan, and even sundin dont wear them, how can u criticize them for not playing tough. A visor in my opinion can create problems with concussions, or broken visors create cuts as did hossa's. But Don is right, hard-nosed old time hockey players that go into the corners and do the dirty work are the ones who don't wear them. It's the floaters and "finesse" players that do. Hell even Ryan Smith doesnt wear one, and he takes more shots in front of the net than anyone. A little bloodshed isn't that bad, and the chances of losing an eye are pretty slim, so a visor can't be that beneficial.

Posted on Feb 6, 2004, 11:54 PM

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Re: i agree totally

by Rocket Rules

Wether you should wear a visor or not is not what is being discussed here, its Cherry's racist remarks, thats all.

What you are saying is if he had said blacks and cowards are the only ones who whould a visor, then you would have a problem with it? You can't be that naive not to know that there are other minorties in the world and blacks aren't the only ones to be discrimanted against.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 5:55 AM

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If you listen to Don Cherry when

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he says there where far fewer injuiers like, concussions, eye injuries, broken noses before they came out with the visors and hard plastic elbow and shoulders pads then there is now. I guess a person would have to do his on personal check on the stats that would prove him wrong.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 7:31 AM

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don cherry isn't racist....

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he hates everyone equally! lol. I wasn't saying that if he cut down a minority it would be ok at all. I'm just saying for the most part in western canada, frenchmen are made fun of alot. It's a little poke of fun he made and euro's are basically the floaters of the NHL. How many guys do you find in the NHL from europe that don't wear visors. Krystof Oliwa, Mats Sundin are a couple in a group of few. And these guys have developed into the North American game. Cherry loves these guys, and no doubt will he have a remark about visors tonight on CC because of Hossa's incident! Maybe its his fault he's european that his visor broke. Give me a break, racist NO, proud Canadian YES.

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:21 AM

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