it's not embarrassing at all. couple of times the details of the demise of Anissa's Orville Wright friends has been posted, and the private forum has labelled them off-topic and asked for their removal because they were not about Anissa specifically. There has been an endless stream of petty cattiness from the private forum, and supercilous sneering condescending posts. You know, when people have such lofty disdain for you expect you to grovel for a morsel and show undue sympathy and concern for their own, you are welcome to turn the other cheek, but if you turn the other cheek too much, you'll get a razor through it. **** Don Grady and **** the private forum.