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BIG Greek Lie # 20 ‘Macedonia was liberated in 1912, 1913’

November 12 2006 at 3:43 PM
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This article is an answer to the article entitled “BIG Greek Lie # 20 ‘Macedonia was liberated in 1912, 1913’" and published in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RMDigest/message/6365 and in http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/stefov/stefov108.html by Risto Stefov at November 2006.

Below, the term Macedonian has its proper meaning that was and is “Greek from Macedonia” and the term Macedonia refers to the land from Pindus to Strymon and from Olympus to Ohrid-Gevgelja line. Skopje never was in Macedonia.

My apologies to the SlavoSkopian people. My objective here is just to show how your state’s propaganda machine violated and still violating your right on truth by telling you lies and half truths. As long as your state denies the fact that Macedonians were always Greeks, we will not stop exposing those SlavoSkopian lies.


In fact every day in our life we Greeks ask ourselves about our actions towards our neighbors and we realize that we are right. Especially in regard of you SlavoSkopians we are full right: Macedonians had always Greek names, toponyms, ways, heroes, gods, dialect and spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World. What they did forget to do if they wanted us to believe that they were always Greek?

No “Macedonian” representatives were in Bucharest treaty negotiation. WHY ? All other nations were there. Why no “Macedonian”?
The borders had been established by Bulgarian Exarchate. Greece abandoned all regions with controlled by Exarch Bishops and Bulgarians abandoned all regions controlled by Patriarch’s Bishops. The inhabitants who wouldn’t live within those borders had the choice to go beyond them. The others, were considered as Greeks in Greece and Bulgarians in Bulgaria and were treated as such.

1. That 38% is a BIG SLAVOSKOPIAN IMBECILE LIE. Skopje never was in Macedonia. Skopje was Dardanian capital and Veles Peonian one. ONLY the southers part of FYROM, that is Pelagonia belongs to historic Macedonia. Thus Greece has today about 85% of Macedonian land and all Macedonian population. The other 15% has been slavicized due to your “acculturation” process.

2. Macedonian territories belong to Macedonian people who have always been Greek. That’s why Strabo wrote: “Macedonia is obviously Greece”. As for words “Greece” or “Hellas”, they are as old as Homer, Herodotus, Aristoteles…

3. Both words Greece and Hellas are in Homer’s lines: http://www.network54.com/Forum/415923/message/1119555021

Before Philip and Macedonians, Athenians, Spartans, Thebans were the leaders of all Greeks. Civil wars had very often taken place amongst Greeks. Macedonians did unite all Greeks as much as Athenians, Spartans, Thebans did unite them before Macedonians. Each time a Greek city-state was in domination of all Greeks, the other cities were united under another city against the dominating one. Thus Athens had lost domination by Sparta, Sparta by Thebe and Thebe by Macedonia.

Why M. Cary does forget to mention Ionia in his geographic description of Greece? Apparently because Ionia wasn’t Greece. But Ionians were Greek, just like Macedonians, Cypriots, Southern Italy, Sicily, ….

Well, if you SlavoSkopians accept that equality stated by F.W.Walbank (Macedonia was in fact equally a Balkan power) then the problem of the name is solved. Because, in fact, you want to monopolize the name of Macedonia.

All other passages distinguish Macedonians and Greeks ONLY geographically. Read my first paragraph, again. Whoever denies Macedonians’ Greekness is an IDIOT or IGNORAMUS or an IMBECILE SlavoSkopian propagandists like you.

Ancient Macedonians felt Greeks but separated from other Greeks, just like all Greeks. At those times regional Greek identities were stronger than Greek one. That’s why Greeks had established famous Olympic games, that’s why they had the term Philhellene for Greeks who have a Greek (=not regional) identity.

Greece has 85% of historic Macedonian land because Macedonians have always been Greek. The meaning of the term Macedonian was always “Greek from Macedonia”. It was really easy to recognize Macedonians from other peoples around: “Thessaloniki or Solun?” Well, Macedonians were and are proud to say Thessaloniki.

Yes “MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS AND SKOPJE FOR THE SLAVOSKOPIANS” with respect to AlboSkopians.




Istor
Solun or Thessaloniki?
Conflict about Macedonian name


    
This message has been edited by istor from IP address 194.63.235.157 on Nov 22, 2006 7:25 PM


 
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