This article is an answer to the article entitled “EWS POTE OI KWFOI 9A MAS KOUFAINOUN"and published in
http://www.florina.org/html/2007/2007_answer_to_mr_kofos.html by Pavlos Filipov Voskopoulos at Feb 2007.
Below, the term Macedonian has its proper meaning that was and is “Greek from Macedonia” and the term Macedonia refers to the land from Pindus to Strymon and from Olympus to Ohrid-Gevgelja line. Skopje never was in Macedonia.
(In the title of the article Voskopoulos makes a joke with KofoΆs name: ) Well, lest see what a Voskos (shepherd) has to learn:
I overpass parts of text with estimations and other philosophical “witsΆ
Politicians shall not omit peopleΆs feeling and views.
After long time in different forums in the Net, I may assure you that Greeks are the most rightfully educated people in the Balkans in history. For obvious reasons. All peoples around have brutally and shamelessly manipulate and distorted history. They even dared to contradict to historical facts or keep them out of their own eyes. For obvious reasons.
Yes, the name “Macedonia” for FYROM is shameful for us Greeks. Especially Greeks of Macedonia, that is THE Macedonians.
Hellenized peoples are as Greek as any other “pure” Greeks. In fact, blood and DNA are not related to ethnicity. We Greeks do know this from the times of Herodotus and Issocrates. We would love to proof this to humanity if SlavoSkopians allow us controlling their education system. We promise that we will not change their blood. Greece is called Greece because of the will of Greeks. Those who fought with us for our independence are Philhellenes at least and if they donΆt deny to teach nothing but Greek to their pupils, are Greeks by definition. Believe me, nobody asked to name Greece something else. All knew pretty well what they fought for.
During 1945-1990 times Greece did protest ceaselessly for the name of that people and federal Yug state. The answers were reasonable: “the country is hided behind Yugoslavian state and national identity”, or “who is going to believe that they are Macedonian?”, or “Greece cannot have to many fronts open: Cyprus, Turkey, Communism, …”, or “we shall help Tito against devil Warsaw Organization” … Anyway, this was the main error of Greece in those times. We have underestimated the danger and we werenΆt ready to confront it after 1990. A little before 1945, there was no ΅MacedonianΆ identity. So, Trikoupis used the term Macedonian geographically. He knew where Macedonia was and what Macedonians were: Greeks, Bulgarians. Other peoples of Macedonia didnΆt want to get named Macedonians. That conclusion of yours “(at the times of Trikoupis) macedonianess wasnΆt a part of Greekness” is stupid of course. All peoples all the time DID know that Macedonians have always been Greeks. Non Greek peoples that lived in Macedonia were Macedonian ONLY geographically. If any “Macedonian” state was created at 1913, then it would be annexed soon or later to Bulgaria and would rejected Macedonian name. Luckless of ΅macedonismΆ is the fact that it was created by Bulgarians for political reasons. The Macedonian problem was created by a historic error: Bulgarians didnΆt manage to liberate peoples under Hexarchy at Balkan wars.
But our national myth DOES NOT contradict to history and facts. In contrary SlavoSkopiansΆ national myth is a brutal rape of history and facts. All nations do manipulate historical data for their myth but SlavoSkopians distort, rape, hide and kill them.
Mitsotakis is wrong. He always was wrong. We have no problem with 20,000 lost souls in Macedonia but with the ethnic name they attempt to monopolize internationally. In fact if they tell the WHOLE truth about Macedonians and SlavoSkopians to their pupils we Greeks could appreciate them. If they accept us as Macedonians then we could accept them as such. About Macedonian land, we Greeks cannot be convinced that SalvoSkopians donΆt want our land as long as we see them insisting to get named Macedonians, while they are Macedonian NOTHING. Greece could do something for SlavoSkopians: Publish immediately a “Greco-SlavoSkopian” dictionary and an “Abecedar na SlavoSkopska jasik” This would make clear to the World that we have no problem with SlavoSkopian state, ethnicity, language, minority ….
Greeks have no problem with names like Greece, Hellas, Yunanistan…
http://www.network54.com/Forum/415923/message/1119555021 The difference is that we Greeks have chosen a non-used name (Hellas) while the SlavoSkopians do know that the term Macedonian is used as name by a Greek tribe since the times of Karanos. So, if SlavoSkopians respect self-determination they shall call us Greeks (or Hellenes) and themselves anything that Macedonian.
Creation of nations is a consequence of linguistic diversity and of threatens against peoples. If the FYROM is named Macedonia then it monopolizes the use of the terms Macedonia and Macedonian internationally. No Greek could use this term any more. Proof me wrong by accepting me in ANY cultural “Macedonian House” or union you have in Florina. How could then SlavoSkopians and World call Pella katadesmosΆ language?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pella_katadesmos What would be the answer to the question “what name is Macedonian: Solun or Thessaloniki?”? The luckless of SlavoSkopians is the fact that Macedonians were Greeks and lived here in Macedonia about a millennium before their arrival. The luckless of the SlavoSkopians is the fact that Macedonians had always Greek names, toponyms, ways, heroes, gods, dialect and spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World. Is this a myth? IsnΆt time for SlavoSkopians to get out of Underground and learn the Light of the Truth? Macedonians have always been Greeks, damn it!
Greece is ridiculed only by ignoramus people or SlavoSkopians or Turks. Greece teaches dignity and self respect once again to all peoples around with her stance in this issue. We cannot allow any foreign people monopolizing the name of Macedonia. The word Thessaloniki is Macedonian the last 2300 years and this will not change because of the will of a brutally brainwashed people. Macedonian is a Greek of Macedonia. Thus Greek refugees of Macedonia are Macedonian, if they want it, automatically. To be Macedonian means to be Greek first. Non Greeks are Macedonian ONLY geographically. Because ONLY Greeks could be proud of that campaign that Macedonians did to spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World.
Never. We Greeks will fight for Macedonian name forever. We will teach our children to continue this fight in order to feel proud of their Greekness. As you do know pretty well, one of the factors of ethnic creation is the attacks or threatens of ΅enemies”. Well, the more you SlavoSkopians attack our Macedonian identity, the more united we will be. All those “hints” of you, shall address them to FYROM leaders first.
Istor: Macedonian, therefore Greek.
PS:
1.You are right: We should call it Lychnidos! I am wondering if ANY Macedonian would protest against it!!
2.Those maps are just historical maps. And refer to Greeks. No neighboring country believes that we Greeks threaten its land.
3.It would be a good thing for SlavoSkopians to learn the WHOLE truth about Macedonians and SlavoSkopians. They would see the truth, at least. But, the state doesnΆt allow them to get out of Underground. Does any SlavoSkopian know that ALL SlavoSkopian heroes clearly stated that they were Bulgarian?
4.Indeed! But SlavoSkopians have no such hesitations!
5.You voske make a poustia in that text:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/448385/message/1176159403
Istor
Solun or Thessaloniki?
Conflict about Macedonian name