They are for the Dragon kit but I am pretty sure they would work on the Trumpeter kit. You would be better off buying the Dragon kit though. The Trumpeter kit is completely wrong. The only thing that is near correct is the chassis. It is a King Tiger chassis and the E-100 was designed on a lengthened King Tiger chassis. The Trumpeter turret is that of a Henschel turret King Tiger and the barrel is too long, effectively turning it into a Tiger IIC (The Henschel Turret King Tiger was a Tiger IIB). I have built Dragon's model E-100 and I can say it is a very good model. However, I would recommend buying the tracks from Hobby Link Japan. Dragon's Magic Tracks are a pain to assemble.
That's because the Trump E100 kit is a fictitious design
October 8 2009, 10:17 PM
and is not based on any "real" paper panzer facts. It is a product of the "Rinaldi School of Panzer Design".
Cameron--I made the original prototype on my own for fun and a few years later Trumpeter liked it enough to make a kit out of it...the chassis (which is nothing like a King Tiger chassis) will support the resin tracks and any 12.8cm Jagdtiger barrel should do the trick for a metal replacement, same as I used my original one-off. I love how a fictitious design is leading to more fictitious facts. There was no such thing as a "Tiger IIC with a too long barrel...." Also the link and length tracks in the Dragon are nice, but need the ejector pin marks filled, they do a decent job of capturing the look of the near 1 meter wide tracks.
The Grille 17cm, not the E100, is based upon a lengthened TII chassis, but only just because the powertrain was mounted in the front.
to recreate a believable vehicle. I also used many ideas seen on the Panther Smallturm turret design. But it doesn't change the fact that I just made it up, similarities or not. The goal was to make it as a what-if on my part, nothing more. Read my comments on the construction and you will see the thoughts I made at that time when I was chopping up the turret.
And to reiterate, there is no such thing as an E100 Ausf B (I came up with that name), or a Tiger III or IIC, these are simply post war names added to existing E-series paper panzers by guys on the internet or for the sake of making conversations easier. They never existed on paper before, during or after the war, so they do not even qualify as a true "Paper Panzer". They are no more realistic than a tank from movie Star Wars.
There was a proposal for a Tiger II mounting a 10.5cm gun, but that is about as close as they came to making a more powerful Tiger II. The rest should be correctly called E-50, E-75 and Panther II, which are the official designations for such vehicles. Hope this helps to clear the confusion.
that I thought would be more realistic (if something like this actually was considered)was to move the commanders cupola in so there wasn't a bulge sticking out the side of the turret. I think the Germans at this stage of the war would have been looking at anything to simplify construction. Also it is a bit of a shot trap. I also moved the hull ventilator forward a couple of MM due to the fact that where Trumpeter put it you cannot rotate the turret a full 360. I am also confused over the commander IR set up. Installed as per the kit the cupola hatch cannot be closed. Bad Ju Ju if artillary starts coming down or infantry start tossing grenades your way. I am also trying to figure out some realistic way to mount a hull mg and a remote MG on the turret top. I like the kit in as such that no matter what you do to it, nobody can say you are wrong.
the recoil from the use of the L/66 12.8cm gun that I envisaged. There was a Jagdtiger proposal in the Panzer Tracts Paper Panzer book and I took the turret measurements from the superstructure intended to house the lengthened 12.8cm on the JT, thus I figured the commander would need additional clearance from the breech during recoil...so I had the slight overhang like the initial production Tiger II turrets. Or at least that was my reasoning back then...
However, I think that the proposed 105mm King Tiger is what I keep seeing listed as either the Tiger IIC or Tiger III. At least I think that those "variants" had a 105mm equipped on them.
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