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I think it was a little more complex

July 2 2009 at 11:08 PM

Vince  (Login MoxiFox)
Von Klumpen


Response to Is God prejudiced?

to be honest.

In both the old and new testament, "God" was not actually an entity but rather a group or a corporation .... making up the heavenly system.

The Hebrews decided to serve ONE god out of ALL the gods and his identity was "Jahveh." Whether he was actually adopted as early on as the Bible indicates, seems questionable. Much of the Old Testament was probably written into being fairly close to the time of the Gospels' Jesus Christ and so Jahveh may have been written in retroactively to make him SEEM to have been giving orders all along. Otherwise though, God was "elohim" or the god-group.

In the New Testament, Jesus and the Jesus Christ people believed in a kind of over-arching, all powerful "one" whom they called "the Father" or "pater". They might even have attributed this one to be resident in the Sun .... since the sun gives life to everything on earth. However, Christians discouraged the denigration of ANY god-corporation beings, referring to them as "Theos" (or "God" in English translation). The Theos contained all of the god corporation -good and bad alike- and Christians were advised to be in subjection to these "higher powers."

[ Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God (theos): the powers that be are ordained of God (theos).

Ephesians 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God (theos).

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

John 4:24 God (theos) is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.]

The word "him" doesn't seem to mean quite the same in Greek as it does to us in English. It was more of an "itself, himself, herself." The word was "autos" derived from "aer" which meant something like a "breathing one".

There was opposition from this theos as well ....

[ Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Rev. 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. ]

Thus, we see Satan right up there as part of the theos but ....... he's going to be kicked out and have to come to earth.

Still, 2 Peter 2 and the book of Jude looked dimly on anyone making fun of ANY of the theos.

[ Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. ]

So while I agree with you that the Bible God Jahveh doesn't come across as any kind of entity worthy of worship .... "he" wasn't totally all there was in the God division.

-Vince



 
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