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Sapien (Login Application11)
Posted Jul 17, 2012 10:26 AM
During the bush years when I used to butt heads with republicans over the Iraq war, I ran into quite a bit of these anti-war liberal Bush Bashers and they sold themselves off as being quite genuine people that were sick of the corruption in politics, war, and where the US was headed.
Turns out that was just a cheap political game. I almost feel as if I was "tricked" by these kinds of liberal groups that now act in the same manner that they condemned the Republicans of acting while bush was in power. Had Obama been president instead of Bush, Liberals would be defending the Iraq war to the bitter end. Talking about how free Iraq is. Their problem wasn't really the war itself -- but being against it simply because it's the other team that has possession of the ball. You have to oppose every move they make.
Between dealing with both groups, I find the liberals to be much more ignorant than conservatives. They have more zeal for Obama than republicans did for Bush. And they come across as being much more angry. When I butted heads with republicans over Bush, I never encountered the amount of anger and hostility as I do with liberal groups.
It's the same deal with the darwinists and the global warming believers. I now see them more and more as fundamentalists. You question global warming, Obama or Darwinian evolution, and it seems to stir up some deep hidden inner rage with these people that just want to lash out, insult, and try to ridicule anyone that questions their beliefs and is not one of the cool cats.
Which is not the characteristics of somebody that you would expect to be "enlightened" -- quite the opposite.
But when anger like that seems to manifest itself often with the believers, it's a sign that the beliefs are in trouble. And that is exactly what has happened.
You look at global warming and it's pretty much on its way out. The frustration among global warming believers is that people didn't buy into it like they had hoped. Instead, people fought back against it. They didn't get the US hooked on carbon taxes and Canada is telling the kyoto accord to go take a hike. The campaign is not over yet, but it's really become a lost cause. Sure, they'll rattle a few people over a heatwave, just like a few earthquakes might rattle a few people to turn to Jesus for help, but the only way for the warmists to save their theory is to abandon their C02 claims and find another heat source. But then the problem is that another heat source might not have anything to do with man. Hard to tax people for having a glass of water.
But I have noticed a weird "momentum" happening that is now shifting over to Darwinian evolution.
For a long time, the "in" cool-cats thing to believe in was Darwinian evolution and the atheist model of the Universe, and then bash any creationist that you came across. And for a while, people were sort of "afraid" to speak out about their doubts about it because you'd face ridicule from the Darwinists.
But after the global warming nonsense, people are now less afraid to question established beliefs. It's almost like a momentum being carried over from global warming by people realizing that they've been tried to be sold some BS. And now they wonder -- What else is there in science that is packaged nicely but is also BS -- what other nonsense is being pushed on mankind. The global warming belief in a way, has shaken up those people that might have looked to science as a religion or faith and deterred others from taking that path. In some ways, global warming has done some good.
Because for the longest time, we've generally been given two "options" -- You either believe in creationism or Darwinian/atheist philosophy. In other words, the model of the Universe we had to pick from was the God-model, a "being" that designed everything and watches over everything that is going according to some plan, and your other option was the atheist model of the Universe where everything is just a bunch of blind forces bumping into each other and producing things of intelligence.
And to some people, neither belief system really appeals. Because there is an order, beauty and intelligence to how the Universe operates and exists but at the same time, it doesn't seem to have a ruler. There is nobody really looking over the Universe and every little thing that happens. I'm coming more and more to the conclusion that the Universe is consciousness and intelligent itself. I can't really explain it, or understand it. But I cannot buy into the explanations that religion and atheism gives. Both faiths however, do have aspects that do make sense and other stuff that is just pure nonsense.
We've been told so long that we either have to believe in atheism or religion, but, people are realizing that there are other options and we have not even began to understand the Universe.
So we have seen that clash over the years of atheists and Christians fighting for our faith. Both groups filled with zealous believers, trying to gain converts over to their sides, and telling us that their way is the only way to understand ourselves and the Universe. And the more zeal that an atheist or Christian has, the less you can tell them apart.
It's the same nonsense with this Romney VS Obama crap.
So much zeal and ignorance on both sides, but yet at the same time, so little real difference. Hard to tell them apart. No reasoning, logic, or principles. Heck, liberals don't even care where their leader was born. But 5 years ago, they cared about every little detail about Bush.
Where did all those caring people go?
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