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Krishnamurti

June 16 2012 at 10:44 PM

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You must know for yourself, directly, the truth of yourself and you cannot realize it through another, however great. There is no authority that can reveal it.

-Authentic Report of Sixteen Talks given in 1945 & 1946
...p. 85.

You yourself have to be the master and the pupil. The moment you acknowledge another as a master and yourself as a pupil, you are denying truth. There is no master, no pupil, in the search for truth.

-Krishnamurti's Talks Benares-India 1949 (Verbatim Report) p.37

You must understand it, go into it, examine it, give your heart and your mind, with everything that you have, to find out a way of living differently. That depends on you, and not on someone else, because in this there is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything.

-Talks by Krishnamurti in U.S.A 1966 p.73

 
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Monkey Narrator

June 17 2012, 8:23 AM 

13. The Minx and the Slug
"We think we earn what he have, but it is a gift. What did we do to earn the gift of life?"
"The affairs of mortals are often incomprehensible to elementals."
"There are no chains like hate, nor flames like passion. Desire is a raging torrent, and illusion is the net."
"If life is a gift, can it ever be right to refuse part of it? A few rare souls may transcend individual love and love everyone. No one is diminished by that."

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http://www.monkeyheaven.com/narratorquotes.html

 
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Re: Krishnamurti

June 17 2012, 9:09 AM 

Pretty much Taoist concepts.

 
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Exactly

June 17 2012, 11:09 AM 

Nice stuff.


 
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Jackie
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I like the Krishnamurti guy

June 18 2012, 1:07 AM 

I liked the way he saw through his ealier manipulators and was able to speak directly and simply.

His message was NOT to follow but to be your own Light and my favourite Wisdom is to never let the mind do stale.

We each must walk our own unique Paths.

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I had heard of him before

June 18 2012, 6:29 AM 

But my recent exposure and exploration was through a hardcore band: Stick to Your Guns, most specifically their "The Hope Division" CD (I just got their "Diamond" CD, ,and more Krishnamurti on this).

Basically some of the songs have intros with excerpts of Krishnamurti's talks. Powerful stuff.


 
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Jackie
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Oh really?

June 18 2012, 9:08 AM 

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Oh! Somewhat over powering! Haha. happy.gif

The Lyrics

In a world that can't, we can
In a world that hates, we understand
We are some kind of love
We're at the end of our rope
We are some kind of hate
We are some kind of hope

In a world that cant, we can
In a world that hates, we understand
In a world that wont
Well, we've got the world by the throat
We are some kind of hope

I'll see through every inch of doubt
I am the moon when the sun goes down
And ill reflect its shine its my life
I will define

"I woke up today and felt my age for the first time
In both my mind and body
And my thoughts are less of fitting in
And more, more of being a better man."

I just want to be a better man

A wrecking ball of warmth is beating in my chest
And my head is buried in the depths of its gentleness
Oh god
I am alive
Keeping warm in a cold world


I AM ALIVE, KEEPING WARM IN A COLD WORLD!


vocalist Jesse Barnett:

"There's a guy named Jiddu Krishnamurti, and his voice and the way of thinking is so great. He comes from a point where he doesn't try to be a teacher or some sort of leader, he just encourages people to be open minded and be open to conversation. He explains that we need to love our fellow man, because we're both human and we feel the same things, whether you're from the Middle East or America."


"I think it's important to note that Stick To Your Guns doesn't come from a Christian background; mostly because for some reason in the Christian community, there's this notion that some people have where they think without God...there's no morals. And I think it's so far fetched and ignorant, because people sometimes act like all you want to do is pillage villages and rape people because you're not a Christian. We're not Christians, but we believe in working towards the greater good and helping those who dont have anything, to meet their basic needs; we also look out to help out non-profit organizations all over the world. "


"One of the biggest things that we believe is that no matter your belief system is or whatever God you worship, don't let that dictate how you treat people. One of the most sensitive subjects to our band is Gay rights. I was just talking to a Christian kid recently, and they generally believe for the most part that all of them are going to hell; some people don't believe that though, that's a generalization. "

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=2705842


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"Truth, God or what you will, is not something to be experienced, for the experiencer is the result of time, the result of memory, of the past, and so long as there is the experiencer there cannot be reality. There is reality only when the mind is completely free from the analyser, from the experiencer and the experienced. Then you will find the answer, then you will see that the change comes without your asking, that the state of creative emptiness is not a thing to be cultivated - it is there, it comes darkly, without any invitation; only in that state is there a possibility of renewal, newness, revolution."





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Diamond

June 18 2012, 1:25 PM 

Their latest.


 
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Krishnamurti: What do you make of death?

June 18 2012, 7:53 AM 

S: What do you make of death?

K: Sir, that is an immense question, you see. Again, you see we have made life into a hideous thing, living. Life has become a battle, which is an obvious fact, constant fight, fight, fight. And we have divorced that living from death. We separate death as something horrible, something to be frightened about, and to us this living which is misery, we accept. If we didn't accept this existence as misery, then life and death are the same movement. Like love, death and living are one. One must totally die to find what love is. And to go into this question of what is death, what lies beyond death, whether there is reincarnation, whether there is resurrection, you follow, all that, becomes rather meaningless if you don' t know how to live. If the human being knows how to live in this world without conflict then death has quite a different meaning.


http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-text.php?tid=986&chid=688&w=education

 
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