Thought I should reply on here so that everyone would know. In Canada we have 5 major political parties. 1 party is center and all the rest are communist, at least that's the way I see it. The media is controlled by the commies, and routinely bad mouths the one center party so that they can never be elected. All our Prime Ministers(Canuck version of President) since the late 60's have been elected from on province.(Canuck version of state) That would be like all of your presidents coming from the same state! Fixed, I think so, coincidentally it happens to be the one french speaking province. We have no say in the decisions made and often the government goes against the will of the people. In short Canada is a dictatorship in which we occasionally get to choose our next dictator provided he's a french commie.

Kohain and all, Thank you for all your replies. I was able to put something together and continue the discussion. It is just so funny how views differ according to your political cchoice. If I were to rely on some opinions, I would be packing it up and moving to Canada.. Seems to me the only state left is New Hampsshire and I am sure they will follow soon too.. Doreen

As long as we are on the subject, I have a couple questions about life up there. Ive heard horror stories about both of these subjects and am curious about the reality of the situation.

How Severe is Gun control up there ?

and

How bad is the health care situation? It is socialized isn't it?

Live Free or die, Pap

The only guns you can purchase in Kanada are rifles. They can't hold more than three shots and all the really powerfull rifles are illegal. They ban them one by one, often using shootings as an excuse. That way if you oppose the ban you look incensitive to the victims and their families.(sound familiar?) The latest thing is the gun registry, the government has already admitted that the goal is to remove all guns from civians/slaves. If your foolish enough to register your guns you are also signing away your rights. If you own a registered firearm the police have the right to search your home at any time without a warrent!

Yes, the heath care system is socialized. Despite recent cut backs, our health care system is still one of the best in the world, though very expensive. We pay for our health care though our taxes which are exremely high! I don't agree with socialized medicare because it removes competition which always leads to bloated bureaucracy.

Funny you should mention gun control and socialized medicare, both are a U.N. mandate so if you want to see the America of the future come to Kanada today. When we canuks want a glimps of the future we look to Europe, The cameras are coming! The cameras are coming!

I am surprised to hear only rifles are allowed, Usually they go before the shotguns. If it is up to the Liberals down here, we will be in a similar state within the next five years. All it will take is a couple more idiots shooting up a school for that to happen.

They are trying to force the registation thing on us already. They say that it helps to track guns used in a crime but, anyone with even a bit of common sense knows that the real motive behind registration is eventual confiscation. This is already happening in California with SKS sporters. And unfortunately, as goes California, so eventually does the rest of the country.

My biggest worry about socialized health care is --Who makes medical decisions? the doctor or bureaucrats. I don't know how closely you follow US politics but, a couple years ago, Bill and Hillary tried to federalize health care down here..This would have given the government complete control of almost 15% of the US economy.
And these people are far too corrupt to be allowed that kind of power.

Live Free Or Die, Pap

health care in Canada is run by each province, but the federal government gives the provinces about 15 per cent to demand certain controls be met. With bill 11 being forced through in Alberta in effect this province will have a two level health care plan in spite of numerous protests. Stop the protests outside the legislature, write your MP demanding the federal government just shut them down.

I am with the federal government on this issue, I hope there is a way they can shut down the alberta government move as it will result in two levels of care. Why not fix the problem instead of adding to it?

Darken the lights and sit close to the one you hold dear, for tonight I present to you a very scarrrry story. If you are faint of heart, go back now... for this story will take hold of you and consume your very being if you are not prepared. But, lest you think you might be able to sleep without difficutly, because, after all, its just a story... Guess again! It's all true kiddies. Bu ha ha ha!

The government of Canada enacted BILL c-68 in an effort to have all firearms registered as per the U.N. mandate. Ever since then, strange and unmentionable things have been happening...

John Till, a gun collector from Prince George, had his collection of almost 100 firearms unfairly seized from his College Heights home by the RCMP. He cried out, "My house has been raped... I'm just devastated.". The 56 year old man made this statement breaking down in tears.

The collection's worth was estimated at $150,000. John Till went on to say, "This is not supposed to happen... It's not right." John Till, a semi-retired home renovator, and 23 year city resident made one fatal mistake - he called the police.

One of Till's friends, who was staying over one night, stole his keys and used them to access a locked safe in a locked gun room and then proceeded to steal a handgun.

The police came down hard on Till, saying that he had 125 pounds of gun powder for loading ammunition (100 pounds more than allowed by the regulations). They also declared that his firearms were improperly stored.

But Till said the firearms were properly stored, pointing out that they were in a locked room with locked windows with blinds. There were also two guard dogs in the back yard. The metal safe for storage was 400 pounds and he had security lights installed as well.

"I reported a theft and get treated like a thief!",said Till. In spite of the fact that Till was a responsible gun owner, target shooter and member of the Prince George Rod and Gun Club, he would be unable to keep any of his firearms. According to police, Till would need a "concrete bunker", to be allowed to hold on to his collection.

The loss of a 30 year legacy of firearm collection and ongoing police stop checks, proved to be too much for John Till and he committed suicide some time after.

(See Alberta Report 12/28/1998)

Thank you and I hope you enjoyed our master chiller horror theatre. Please come again and bring your friends! Tune in next week when we hear the sorted tales of patients... who died being patient.

Yours in Truth

The Sharpened Pen

LOL!! Nice intro.. Is there any kind of Rifle association in Canada, similar to the NRA??? Also, is there any kind of ACLU like we have in the US?? A friend is now saying that Canada would never put up with either of these groups, liberal or concervative. Doreen

Yes Doreen, it's called the National Firearms association.(NFA)
http://www.nfa.ca

The .ca means you've found a canadian site, most people don't know that.

Our NFA is not as powerful as you NRA, in fact most Canadians have heard of the NRA, but few know anything about the NFA. It's hard to fight gun control in Canada because our constitution doesn't guaranteed gun rights and our media is opposed to freedom of any kind.

Kohain, Thanks for the link. I have been in a debate with a canadian about the American Civil Liberties Union (liberal lawyers group) and the NRA. The discussion was about how Canada would never allow either of these groups.. This link will come in handy.. Doreen

I have been to gun stores and seen the NFA literature on their counters. They are fighting gun control and trying to make people aware. We also have a civil liberties association as well and they are very active in issues but don't get any press coverage of their efforts.

Is the civil liberties association a true freedom network or is it liberal at heart?? The ACLU is hated by most conservatives because of the things they fight for. Off the top of my head, they will defend a student who wants to wear a swastika to school, but go against a student who wants to pray before eating lunch. They have defended some of the most ridiculous and disgusting cases known. Doreen

The cicil liberties association in Canada is much the same. They would be against Christian values, pro- abortion defenders, in fact more like an official parasite of government is more like it.

Canada has a National Firearms Association, however it is virtually powerless in comparison to its American Equivalent. The A.C.L.U., or American Civil Liberties Union, also has a variety of equivalents in Canada, but there again, nothing with as solid a base.

But let's talk hard currency for a second:

Were you aware that we went looney first? Yep, that's right. You are once again following in our footprints, with your new dollar coin. What the new dollar coin effectively does, is make cash much more inconvenient, thereby forcing people to rely more on debit card transactions. This of course will enable government and large corporations to better track both you and your spending habits.

On another currency note, did you know that much like the European Union, North America was to have established a united currency? The new dollar was to be called the Amero, but widespread opposition to the idea, on both sides, prevented this from happening. Unfortunately, after the initial stories were released on this topic, it became almost impossible to find further data. (All traces of the story seemed to simply vanish). We did manage, however, to get an image of the proposed dollar, and i think I still have it on file somewhere if you'd like to see it. I believe information on this story is available from Time Magazine, but don't expect your search for burried treasure to be an easy one.

Yours in Truth

The Sharpened Pen

The Sharpened Pen, Dont go through any extra trouble, but if you have the image handy, I would like to see it..

What do you all think about these on-line shopping resourses? My husband talked me into using PriceLine.com for some of our groceries. We have used it for a few weeks now. We usually save as much as we spend. I am cheap at heart, so this sounds good. I had qualms about doing this through the internet, but they know this stuff anyways if I use a scanner card at the store.
Doreen

Of course its going to be extra trouble! Ah well I likes ya. What follows is an article written on the issue. I haven't been able to dig up a picture, at least not a positive match (one that I am sure represents the proposed currency). I have a screen shot of a news article on the issue, but there is no picture of the currency proposed

Article:Attention News Editors:

The Fraser Institute - Canada would benefit from a common North American currency

VANCOUVER, Oct. 5 /CNW/ - A common North American currency will bring
about greater price stability, significantly lower long-term interest rates,
enhanced trade, greater productivity, and the creation of more wealth in
Canada for personal and social ends, says a new study released today by The
Fraser Institute, The Case for Amero: The Economics and Politics of a North
American Monetary Union.
The study calls for a North American Monetary Union that includes Canada,
the United States, and Mexico. Under the proposed plan, bank notes and coins
of the currency, dubbed the ``amero,'' will have amero symbols on one side and
national emblems on the other to preserve important symbols of national
identity.
The study's author Herbert Grubel, a distinguished economist and Senior
Fellow at The Fraser Institute, argues that flexible exchange rates have not
brought Canada the benefits promised by its advocates and have instead
contributed to poor economic performance through a reduction in labour market
flexibility and delayed adjustment to the long-term decline in world prices
for natural resources. In addition, unemployment has remained high and
economic growth has been slow. Labour market flexibility, essential for
dealing with economic shocks, has been lowered by the very existence of
flexible exchange rates.
``This system has contributed to Canada's high and excessive reliance on
the production of natural resources. A monetary union will ensure that we move
to the high-tech and other profitable and expanding industries at a more
optimal pace, and Canadians' productivity and living standards will increase
correspondingly,'' Grubel states.
Canada's cultural sovereignty and political independence will not be
affected by monetary union. Just as in the case of the Free Trade Agreements,
there is nothing in any treaty for monetary union that interferes with
Canada's ability to pursue taxation, spending, social, regulatory, or foreign
policies different from those of the United States or other members of the
monetary union.
Grubel points out that sovereignty is not infinitely valuable. In theory,
sovereignty in monetary policies is important if it improves the performance
of the Canadian economy for the benefit of all. In practice, however, it has
not achieved this. ``For this reason, I believe that a reduction in national
economic sovereignty over exchange rates and monetary policy will raise,
rather than lower, the well-being of Canadians in the future,'' he says.
Trade among the members of the monetary union will be stimulated by the
elimination of the costs of currency trading and risk. There will be greater
price stability and, importantly, interest rates in Canada will fall by about
one percent. A common currency will also promote strong geographical ties
across borders-states of the US mid-west and the Canadian prairies, for
example, share many of the same economic concerns.
The United States also stands to benefit from a common currency. Monetary
union will reduce the threat to the power of the US dollar resulting from the
greater use of the euro in place of the dollar in the rest of the world.
Further, the United States will gain from having more stable and prosperous
countries as neighbours. Clear benefits have been gained through membership in
multi-nation organizations such as the World Trade Organization (WTO), and
NAFTA, and a common currency fits the same mould.
``Increased trade, more stable economies in the rest of the world, and
continuous forums for the exchange of views have increased the prosperity of
Americans. By extension, the proposed monetary agreement will benefit the
United States since it is expected to improve the size and stability of the
economies of Canada and Mexico; American trade and investment will grow
correspondingly,'' concludes Grubel.
A tripartite central bank, the North American Central Bank, will be
established to oversee the integrity of the amero. Members of the union will
have representatives on the Bank's boards in numbers reflecting their relative
size in terms of some weighted average of population and national income, with
the weights to be determined through negotiations. Every country will receive
the profits from the issuance of ameros used domestically, and their own share
of seigniorage (the profits that governments gain from printing money).
The conversion of existing currencies into the amero will take place at
rates that leave unchanged each country's real income, wealth, and
international competitiveness at the time of conversion.

Established in 1974, The Fraser Institute is an independent public policy
organization based in Vancouver.

For further information, or for a copy of The Case for the Amero: The
Economics and Politics of a North American Monetary Union contact: Suzanne
Walters, Director of Communications, The Fraser Institute (604) 714-4582,
email: suzannew@fraserinstitute.ca.

The report and media release can be viewed on our web site at
www.fraserinstitute.ca.



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For further information: Herb Grubel, Senior Fellow (604) 980-7922,
herbg@fraserinstitute.ca; Suzanne Walters, Director of Communications
(604) 714-4582, suzannew@fraserinstitute.ca
THE FRASER INSTITUTE has 98 releases in this database.

(It's like I've said all along. First they move nations into superstate continents, as they have done in europe, and then, they amalgamate the continents into a global government. National Sovereignty doesn't mean much to the back-room dealers.)

I have tonnes of information on card technology and none of it looks good for the rights of the individual. Newer smart card technology is being tested which will soon replace the magnetic strip bankcards. In fact, such technology is already becoming commonplace in Europe.

Smart cards will allow increased purchase tracking by business and government, as well, as having the capacity to store important personal information such as SIN number etc.

If you value your rights as an individual, I reccommend that you resist the urge to spend electronic cash. I know its hard. Why I have even succumb to the temptation a few times myself, but whenever possible, try to use cash. At the very least, this should slow their progress somewhat.

Regrettably, I fear that the forces that are bringing all of this into being are nigh unstoppable. Like a pitbull, however, I plan to continue gnawing at the ankle of our global master, until I am at last dragged over the finish line. Why not take a bite at this monster yourself? Maybe we can tick him off a little if we all work on this thing together.


Yours in Truth,

The Sharpened Pen

Yes, I would like to chip away at satan's plans. Recently at a Spiritual Gifts Class at my church I have been told I have the "gift of truth" which explains a lot. Some women get excited over a new recipe, while I get excited at the thought of battling evil.
As far as the article you posted, I vaguely remember something like this mentioned on the 700 club. I dont really care for this show, but they have some good world-wide stories. This one was about some country overseas that already was using "paperless money". Every business and every person used this new 'card' and paper money was obsolete. If you combine this with another story I heard recently about a computer chip that was already being tested on the designer of the chip, what do you get??? THE END..