really good website that I'll share. Right after I admit I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. My numbers were not that high in my fasting blood test: 250 after 1 hour, 280 after 2 hours. But there they are. Below 200 is what they want. I see the Doc again on the 16th. Till then they said cut back on carbs... no!!! not my bread!!!
thanks... the hard part (for me) is knowing just what foods
July 7 2012, 11:33 AM
have the stuff I need to avoid, like white bread my personal downfall. So I need to find the carb ones and make a list.
I'm cutting / pasting things from one of your sites to explore further. I do like what they are saying about the method of testing 1 hour-90 minutes after eating and making deletions to diet after finding what makes spikes.
Weed: I really really really appreciate your help and willingness to discuss this with me!! Thank you so much!
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Controlling your glucose is doable and worth it. The truth is, even healthy people shouldn't eat most of the stuff you need to give up. There's still lots of good food around.
If you ever see that late night commercial with the woman standing behind a table of pastries telling you that you can enjoy "all this" and "still control your diabetes", turn it off. Nobody should eat that sh!t.
Turtle took her time for a week or so, to do many things, absorb the diagnosis, get the meds, go to the web sites she learned of. she gradually took the wrong stuff out of her cabinets and system and then and only then, did she go charging into it.
there is NOTHING you HAVE to do today but what you have done. accept help(yea weedand your family,) see what's at the store and start reading.
this is a marathon NOT a sprint.
oh wait a marathon sounds terrible.
you are doing perfect.
Di, I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes at age 58 in 1998 . ..
July 7 2012, 5:56 PM
Go to community.diabetes.org which is the American Diabetes Association's website's forum page, then click on the various forums. I have spent hours reading there to learn from the experts, those who are surviving and thriving with diabetes
Another easy way to remember what not to eat is white stuff: white bread, white pasta, white rice, white flour. Cauliflower is OK. Ignore any sites that suggest that you use the old "Exchange Lists" which to me are confusing.
Also, there is nothing you cannot eat -- if it is your birthday, have a piece of cake but cut way down on carbs the rest of the day. You don't want to be miserable.
If they don't give you a meter at your next visit, you can get them free from most manufacturers. The meter is the best way to keep track of what is happening in your body.
P.S. A week or two ago you mentioned a book series that had 18 books. I asked you the name of the series, but you did not see my question..
Thank you, that is all very helpful info :) ... re: the books....
July 7 2012, 7:01 PM
I'm so sorry I didn't see your question
The author is Janet Evanovich, and the series has numbers in the titles....
One for the Money
Two for the Dough
Three to Get Dead
Four to Score.... etc.
after so many books some parts get repetitive (i.e. when she describes her parents house) and I'm guessing that is because there was some time between books, and also that the can pretty much stand alone that way. It is better to read them in order though, as she does refer back somewhat.
Do you do Kindle? If you have prime you can "borrow" a book each month. BUT they are so cute, you tend to keep at them.
This message has been edited by dianamite01 on Jul 7, 2012 7:01 PM
I don't do Kindle, don't text, don't go to Facebook. We don't even have cell phones.
I get most of my books at our library's twice - a- year sale. Lots of people donate books to help raise money for the library -- paperbacks are 50 cents, hardbacks $1.
A few more notes on diabetes:
If they told you they wanted you to be under 200, it is probably because if it was much higher they might put you in the hospital for a few days to get it under control. "Normal" people have fasting readings of between 70 and 100. Between 100 and 126 or so would be considered pre-diabetic. So they will give you lower goals to meet as you slowly get this closer to normal.
You will be shocked to learn that the testing strips can cost as much as $1 each and you may be asked to check your readings several times a day. Insurance should cover most of it, The reason most manufacturers will give you a free meter is they want you to use their testing strips. There are generic store brand meters that cost less and the test strips are also cheaper for those meters.
Just to warn you ahead of time, at some point many Type 2 diabetics will be better off in controlling their blood glucose by using insulin, often along with pills. It doesn't mean that you have failed -- your body just needs more help. And the tiny needles are not painful.
Attitude is a big part of how well you will do You seem to have a positive attitude about all this. As you will discover when reading at the American Diabetes Assn. website, some newbies come to the board in panic mode. I don't post there, but get a lot of info from it. For instance, I learned from one long-time poster that I could use alpha lipoic acid (ALA) to relieve most symptoms of diabetic neuropathy which causes sharp pains in hands and feet. It took care of the problem when my right hand suddenly got so painful that I could hardly do anything with it. After about a week of taking ALA, it was getting better -- and after two weeks it was almost back to normal. Many doctors don't seem to be aware of this use of ALA and will instead prescribe one of the two RX's that have terrible side effects.
I am sure they are in the library... or they could order them....
July 8 2012, 10:42 AM
Club buddies: how nice(?) is that, lol.
All very helpful information you gave me... I will for sure continue checking things out, it is all very new to me. I'm used to just dealing with whatever gets thrown my way, and I've been thrown at a lot in many areas of my life. You just deal with it and move on.
I am sorry also that you've been going thru this and have had pain!!
Our library is part of a 12 library chain. I can go online and reserve any book at any of the libraries and they will ship it to my local branch. They send me an E-mail when it has arrived so I can pick it up.
I used to read in bed all the time til I got bifocals, and couldn't get anything right... the book, the light, etc so I gave up. I got the keyboard one at first, and it froze, so I upgraded to the Kindle (keyboard wasn't in the stores anymore and I didn't want to wait for shipping, lol).
There are tons & tons of free books at Amazon plus there is a page on FB that lists 5-6-7 books at a time that are free...they do that several times a day.
The Fire is actually like a small Ipad or tablet, with wifi you can go on the internet, play games, etc. My sis has the Fire now and uses that all the time.
The only problem with the Fire is glare, the touch screen is very reflective. When I was In MS recently, wanted to read by the pool. Had to put the font as large as it could go, and then i could read fine, just had to swipe to the next page more frequently... and I was under a gazebo.
They all have wifi or the other thing I can't remember. You need that "on" to download books, but otherwise can have it off to save battery. Unless you have the fire and are on the internet, of course.
Any questions just ask!
editing to add: I read in bed all the time now sometimes til 3 am depending on how good the book is.............love retirement
also adding... there is a cover I recommend.. it has various places where the kindle can be placed for angles, etc.
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for my original keyboard kindle I had a lighted cover - the light pulled out at the left corner. That was not bad at all for reading in bed. Just in case you wanted to get one if the lighted version takes longer than you anticipate.
Thanks Annie... he does have some very good advice and
July 8 2012, 7:24 PM
I can't say I am ok with it... still in somewhat of a shock situation... and the confusion of wtf is gonna happen next, lol. I will just be glad to get to the doc and then go from there. I'm winging it for now.
I'm Italian... I was born with a pasta craving, lol. And I've tried the whole wheat kind... not liking that so much
I've tried the shiratake noodles, most stores have them in the refrigerator section.
July 9 2012, 11:17 AM
I gave up on substitutes for things I cut out because they are never as good and just remind you of what you're trying to eliminate.
Once you beat your carb addiction (be honest with yourself) you can splurge occasionally. For example, I do allow myself to eat bread when I dine out and I never have rules when I travel (though I avoid junk). The key to splurging is moderation and rules on when and where.
Not needed at all to create strict Diet at this stage, or hopefully any, but at least a guide to add more 'good foods, and less of the ones that create the 'spikes and where out insulin and turn into fat cells so quickly.
Not that I think the NY Mayor's 32 oz soda restriction for fast food is a perfect idea by any stretch
(I knew New Yorkers would love being told what to do , lol), but his concept was solid.
I, too, have some issues with finding whole wheat pasta (tried it 3-4 years ago, and it did not go well, lol)
At the very least, if you are having a meal with processed carbs/pasta, if you can also have a portion of a complex carb along with some protein, they interact much better.
That forms the solid building blocks, and all the rest can come later. There have been some amazingly quick turnarounds (like 2-3 weeks or less), for people who have switched to items on low glycemic index,etc. and the resulting lowering of blood sugar counts, as well as other, better indicators.
It's one of these, if they catch it relatively early, Diet alone can make a major influence on recovery
just came back from exploratory surgery... umm, i mean grocery shopping and
July 10 2012, 1:02 PM
I compared product to product ... like regular penne pasta and whole wheat. I'm not seeing a very big difference in numbers off the nutrition label. THAT confuses me. Same in a couple of other items.
I have never ever read so many labels in the grocery store (did I ever mention I hate grocery shopping?) in all my life. I'd rather get in & get out. I was there almost and hour and I don't feel like I have any food, lol.
This message has been edited by dianamite01 on Jul 10, 2012 1:05 PM
is to shop mostly the outer edges of the store where the real food is, i.e. meat and produce.
BTW, simple carbs are things like sugar, flour, potatoes, white rice, etc. Complex carbs include fiber, like whole wheat and non-starchy vegies. Almost everything that comes in a box is a simple carb. Fruit has both sugar and fiber.
Thanks :) I did most of mine today on the outer circle, but I did
July 10 2012, 1:20 PM
want to find some kind of cracker, and needed my shredded wheat.
I bought silk almond milk for my shredded wheat... hope I like it, there were no sample sizes, lol. I used to be addicted to milk, but got a little lactate intolerant after not drinking it very much for a couple of years.
As I mentioned in the other post, did not see much difference in the numbers for wheat vs a soft rye bread... got the soft rye. I would have to transfer into wheat bread very slowly.
Mrs. Weed can't live without 'crunchy' so she sometimes measures out a portion of corn chips, but she's careful about the amount.
If you go the low glycemic path get a meter so you can test the foods you eat (sounds like your doc will prescribe a meter any way).
Simple carbs are the processed white group...white bread, 'standard processed pasta'
In that regard, the simple carbs above are the regular carbs
Complex carbs would, among other things, be the whole wheat version.
Sweet potato versus baked potato
whole wheat bread vs white bread
Whole wheat spaghetti/angel hair etc vs standard processed pasta
Essentially, the processed standard foods have most of the nutrients and fiber processed out of them. It's the fiber taken out that plays a major function in slowing down the glucose (and then insulin) spikes that lead to obesity and eventual type II
That's where adding a complex carb of another kind, helps to offset just the steak and baked or mashed potato meal.
I don't want to speak for Pay (who gives good advice), but...
July 10 2012, 2:59 PM
I think you'd need to eat the fiber (or protein or whatever) at the same time you eat the simple carbs in order to slow the absorption of the carbs. What you don't want to do is "spike" your blood glucose. This is where a meter will help.
you can not believe the wider effect all of this is having
July 11 2012, 1:07 PM
You all are helping many more than just the few of us posting. turtle and i are exacmples. and i have shared some of the sites pay and weed and misty have posted.
I thank you so much for the info, and for knowing just how caring a place this is.
to watch you all give the kind of love that is healthy and benefitcial to our Di, proves whatta funny supportive fun educational and caring place you all have built.
no worries, not waiting for the huggin.
I just wanna say thank you.