This was one of the greatest girls dual meets I've seen in a while.
LCC 27, Escondido 28
LCC went 1,3,5,8,10.
Escondido went 2,4,6,7,9.
On the boys side:
LCC 23, Escondido 34.
Darren Fahy won on a tough 5K course at Fallbrook with a time of 16:16 - only 16 seconds off Brett Hasvold's course record of 16:00.
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 7:31 PM from IP address 71.154.222.174
If you must.........this is provided that everyone is healthy. This is for Division I.
Div. I Boys Team (RBV, Poway, Patrick Henry or Otay Ranch) - Top three individuals (Brewer, Urie, and Blumberg.
Div. I Girls Team (TP, RBV, RB) - Top three individuals....no brainer (Grabill, Morgan, and Billmeyer). If MC was in D-1, Menefee would be up there around 3rd.
Now, they have to go out there and do it.
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 1:06 PM from IP address 76.93.132.156
Patrick Henry was moved to Division 2 this year. Urie and Blumberg are the prohibitive favorites to win that race. Other than that, I agree with your assessment. TP is also a very strong team and could easily contend for a #1, 2 or 3 spot.
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 2:03 PM from IP address 199.164.160.4
The races begin at 8:30 with the JV Girls and every 30 min. after that another race. So JV Boys are at 9:00, Varsity Girls at 9:30, and Varsity Boys are at 10:00
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 9:17 AM from IP address 216.100.215.5
We would love to have you for our winter meets this season up in Temecula! Please check out the information below and let me know if you have any questions.
Doug
TEMECULA ALL COMERS TRACK MEETS
AT
GREAT OAK HIGH SCHOOL
32555 Deer Hollow Way, Temecula, CA 92592
ON GREAT OAK HIGH SCHOOLS ALL WEATHER TRACK
3/16 NEEDDLE SPIKES OR LESS ARE REQUIRED
All Ages Can Compete
Contact Doug Soles dsoles@tvusd.k12.ca.us
3 DATES: Saturday, December 12, 2009 & Saturday, January 9th, 2010 & Saturday, January 23rd, 2010
COST: $5.00 unlimited entry for athletes and spectators (Children 4 & under free)
SCHEDULE OF EVENTS
TIME SCHEDULE IS TENATIVE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ATHLETES
IN EACH EVENT AND WILL PROGRESS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE IF POSSIBLE
ALL EVENTS BEGIN AT 9:00 AM
RUNNING EVENTS: (Other events may be added per athlete's request)
9:00 AM 4 X 800 METER RELAY
9:15 AM 4 X 100 METER RELAY
9:30 AM 1600 METERS
10:00 AM 100/110 METER HURD
10:20 AM 400 METERS
10:40 AM 100 METERS
11:10 AM 800 METERS
11:35 PM 300 METER HURDLES
11:55 PM 200 METERS
12:20 PM 3200 METERS
12:50 PM 4 X 400 METER RELAY
1:00 PM 5000 METERS
FIELD EVENTS:
TRIPLE JUMP WILL FOLLOW THE LONG JUMP. DISCUS WILL FOLLOW THE SHOT PUT.
LONG JUMP [4 JUMPS MEN/WOMEN]
HIGH JUMP [STARTS AT 36 & RAISED EVERY 2 MEN/WOMEN]
SHOT PUT [4 THROWS MEN/WOMEN]
POLE VAULT [START AT 6 RAISED EVERY 6 INCHES MEN/WOMEN]
DISCUS [4 THROWS MEN/WOMEN]
TRIPLE JUMP[4 JUMPS MEN/WOMEN]
DIRECTIONS: Great Oak High School is located at the corner of Pechanga Parkway and Deer Hollow Way. From the I 15 freeway take the 79 South/ Temecula Parkway exit. Turn Right on Pechanga Parkway. Turn left at Deer Hollow Way and make the first right into the Great Oak Stadium parking lot.
PARKING: Parking is available in the stadium parking lot. Additional parking may also be available across the street at the Sports Park.
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:02 PM from IP address 173.60.62.111
Sounds like a great meet for people who are itching for track to start and just want to get a race in. How many people usually come to the december one?
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:11 PM from IP address 69.105.138.144
If you are looking for a cheap, close to San Diego, and competitive distance meet for your schedule, please consider the Great Oak Distance Invitational on March 20th! We'd love to have you and you get UNLIMITED entries so all of your runners can compete! Please contact Coach Soles ASAP as spots are filling up fast!
GREAT OAK DISTANCE INVITATIONAL
AT
GREAT OAK HIGH SCHOOL
32555 Deer Hollow Way, Temecula, CA 92592
ON GREAT OAK HIGH SCHOOLS ALL WEATHER TRACK
3/16 NEEDDLE SPIKES OR LESS ARE REQUIRED
MEET PURPOSE: The purpose of this meet is to provide a cheap and competitive alternative to many of the current meets out there for distance teams. Our goal is to build this into a great early season meet, where many of the top ranked distance squads from around the state can come and compete to see what level their athletes are at. The meet is run by grade level except for invitational heat per event. Come run fast times and qualify your athlete early for Arcadia!
MEET DIRECTOR: Doug Soles - dsoles@tvusd.k12.ca.us - 951-326-6992 (Cell)
DATE: Saturday March 20th, 2010
COST: Teams - $50.00 (boys & girls total) Unlimited Meet Entries
Individual - $10.00 for up to 3 Races
*Teams who finished in the top 10 at the 2009 State XC Meet for their division are FREE with Unlimited Meet Entries. Just let us know your place at State and email us a team bio from your XC season for meet publicity.
*All Southwestern League Teams are also FREE with Unlimited Meet Entries.
TEAM SET-UP AREAS: Teams are free to set up canopies/team areas in the shot put/discus grass field next to the track & on the very back of the bleachers (do not block spectators with canopies). Please keep athletes clear of infield unless they are in an upcoming event and they are preparing.
AWARDS: The winner of each heat will receive a 1st place medal. To keep costs low, no other awards will be given this year.
ENTRY METHOD/DEADLINE: TBA
TIMING/RESULTS: Results will be posted athttp://gohs.tvusd.k12.ca.us/GODI as well as sent to Dyestatcal.com. FAT Timing will be used.
CHECK IN/PACKETS: Team packets will be available at 8:00 am at the team entry gate. Coaches packets will contain heat sheets.
CHECKS: Please make checks payable to GOHS.
SCRATCHES: We will seed the heats plenty full for each event, there is no need to alert us of scratches. Please try to enter athletes in events you fully believe they will run...
CLERK OF THE COURSE: The clerk of the course will be located on the football infield. Calls will be 1st - 20 min before heat - 2nd - 15 min before - Final - 10 min before. Athletes not checked in by final call will be scratched. ALL ATHLETES MUST REPORT TO THE CLERK READY TO RUN. Sweats and personal belongings will be left at the clerk area once athletes are prepped to go the starting line.
WEATHER: This meet will run rain or shine!
RACE STARTS: Races will either start by waterfall or by alley depending on race and # of participants.
WARM-UP AREA: Athletes will be able to warm-up on the back soccer fields or across the street at the sports park. The infield will be available for athletes to finish warm-ups after checking in for their heats.
ENTRY: $5.00 entry for spectators (Children 4 & under free)
FOOD: There will be various vendors and a snack bar for food consumption.
DIRECTIONS: Great Oak High School is located at the corner of Pechanga Parkway and Deer Hollow Way. From the I 15 freeway take the 79 South/ Temecula Parkway exit. Turn Right on Pechanga Parkway. Turn left at Deer Hollow Way and make the first right into the Great Oak Stadium parking lot.
PARKING: Parking is available in the stadium parking lots. Additional parking may also be available across the street at the Sports Park.
SCHEDULE OF EVENTS
TIME SCHEDULE WILL BE ROLLING BASED ON NUMBER OF ENTRIES.
PLEASE LISTEN FOR ANNOUNCER CALLS TO KNOW WHEN YOUR RACE IS!
RUNNING EVENTS: FIRST RACE WILL BEGIN AT 9:00 AM - Rolling Schedule
9:00 AM Girls Invitational 1600m (all grades combined)
9th Girls 1600m Heats
10th Girls 1600m Heats
11th Girls 1600m Heats
12th Girls 1600m Heats
Boys Invitational 1600m (all grades combined)
9th Boys 1600m Heats
10th Boys 1600m Heats
11th Boys 1600m Heats
12th Boys 1600m Heats
Girls 400m Heats (all grades combined)
Boys 400m Heats (all grades combined)
Girls Invitational 800m (all grades combined)
9th Girls 800m Heats
10th Girls 800m Heats
11th Girls 800m Heats
12th Girls 800m Heats
Boys Invitational 800m (all grades combined)
9th Boys 800m Heats
10th Boys 800m Heats
11th Boys 800m Heats
12th Boys 800m Heats
Girls Invitational 3200m (all grades combined)
9th Girls 3200m Heats
10th Girls 3200m Heats
11th Girls 3200m Heats
12th Girls 3200m Heats
Boys Invitational 3200m (all grades combined)
9th Boys 3200m Heats
10th Boys 3200m Heats
11th Boys 3200m Heats
12th Boys 3200m Heats
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 1:23 PM from IP address 173.60.62.111
I set the wiki up yesterday and am trying to find editors for the league meets.
So far I have someone to do Grossmont, Imperial Valley, Frontier and Central (me).
I'd like for editors to add a little pre-finals color and results.
For those leagues I don't get an editor for, I'll just post results as they come in.
-GG
Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 10:45 AM from IP address 66.75.42.8
What I am about to write is some hearsay, so if I am wrong in anyway please step up and set the record straight.
In the early 80's Dos Picos Park was Ramona's home meet location. Somehow it was switched out to Ramona Oaks in the mid 80's and has been there at that location until this year.
A couple of years ago OPMS xc coach and parents started mapping out a course at Dos Picos used by the middle school for their fundraisers/invitationals. From there the high school course was developed by those same parents/current coaches and mapped out to what was run on Friday. That was the first time the Ramona High School ran that course as their home course this season.
The develop of the current course took some doing. It was told to me, they had to get a permit to bring in a tractor to grade the trail to make it to what you saw. Those gophers holes are a killer on ankles. They started on Monday early morning then worked during their lunch hour on the course and then a couple of hours in the late afternoon all last week.
I would like to thank the staff at Dos Picos for working with the those trying to get this course up and running. Also Joey and Crew get a thank you!!! Maybe if Joey sees this post he can also mention who helped him, I wasn't told who.
So that was my round about way of saying your welcome! Can't wait to see the rest of the Valley league up there running at Dos Picos Park next season.
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 9:17 AM from IP address 69.43.155.250
is a great site and Ramona is to be commended for getting it back and using it as a course. Give it some time over the next two years and it will be a excellent course.
You folks did a great job hosting the meet and we would come there anytime to compete.
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 10:41 AM from IP address 99.165.40.29
We agree Ramona did a great job. We were expecting a different outcome for their course. Have to say it was one of the nicer marked courses. Would of made a great place to race at earlier on in the season during those hot spells with all the trees shading the course. Dennis your team dominated once again, great job. Great race all in all.
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 11:18 AM from IP address 69.78.131.44
Joe Cortez, Damon Blankenbaker, Mike Hughes, and my assistant coach Steve Emery were the ones that organized the meet and deserve the thanks. They took a lot of time getting the course race ready by filling holes, flattening the ground, and setting up the start/finish as well as the timing system. I appreciate the feedback from Dennis and everyone else and we will take it into consideration for next year.
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 11:41 AM from IP address 209.66.200.49
Great job to you to Coach, impressed with your team. Your kids were a great bunch . You have some great talent there as well. Welcome to the world of Coaching here in San Diego, glad to have you.
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 3:17 PM from IP address 69.78.67.141
A poster above suggested that perhaps the 2007 RBV boys did the same --- I don't think they did and the 2007 Athletic.net results do not have any info to check on those stats for RBV...it was a great team - but I don't think they equaled the performance of this Poway squad.
Can any coach show a team as deep as Poway on the Guajome course?
Whatever Poway does the next few weeks - I think this is an outstanding accomplishment!
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:48 PM from IP address 76.176.173.3
Here's an email I got last night from Carl Brandt (the guy with the beard under the Movin' Shoes canopy at most invites)...
Thought you might like a photo of Ben E at the Heps at van Cortlandt Park last Friday. Also attached is a photo of Sammy Silva. I was also able to talk with Ryan Graddy from Torrey Pines (Brown) and Nihal Kiyali from La Jolla (Yale) and her brother Murat who graduated from Yale last year. Good stuff. and Meb's win in the marathon on
Sunday made the weekend even sweeter. Photo of Meb/Ryan Hall/ Jorge Torres also attached. see you, Carl Brandt/Movin Shoes
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 10:10 AM from IP address 66.75.42.8
That was my mistake - I sent that to George Green, but Coach Dockery corrected me and it was changed for the paper - North Co. Times got it right in their reporting - I haven't seen the Tribune - but it should be correct there. I am sorry - I apologize.
Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 10:27 AM from IP address 70.181.193.188
That's great. We can cancel the Palomar and CIF championships and just award them the 1st place trophy for both races. Think how much time we just saved ourselves!
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 5:04 PM from IP address 98.155.39.155
at socal and the poway/ec/cbad meet the finish was pushed back.. only at the rb/rbv/vista meet did the athletes go around that tree for the finish. i also believe the finish for the pow/ec/cbad meet was pushed back to compensate for distance. i think the times are pretty close to one another...
Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 9:07 PM from IP address 72.197.211.104
Jan 23rd All Comers Meet - CA Indoor State Meet Qualifying Meet
by
Below is a meet that we will be holding at Del Norte High School this pre-season. As explained below, the meet will be run simultaneously with other meets across the state with the same events. This is an all-comer's meet as well. Youth athletes and HS athletes just trying to get a race in are of course welcome. For insurance purposes, an active USATF membership will be required in order to compete.
Price for the All-Comers meet is TBD at this point.
California State High School Indoor Invitational
Ca. State HS Invit.
The meet will run in conjunction with the Run for the Dream meet in Fresno, Ca on Feb. 6, 2010. There will be a set of running and field events with 2 relays (see attached for schedule of events).
There will be 6 qualifying meets held on Jan. 23, 2010 around California for the Feb. 6th meet. There will be 3 meets in Southern California and 3 meets in Northern California. The list of qualifying meets will be:
Del Norte HS Jan. 23, 2010
Riverside Riverside CC Jan. 23, 2010
Cerritos Cerritos CC Jan. 23, 2010
Fresno Sanger HS Jan. 23, 2010
Sacramento UC Davis Jan. 23, 2010
Berkeley UC Berkeley Jan. 23, 2010
The top 4 in each running event and relay, and the top 2 in all field events will be invited to run in the CA. State HS Invit on Feb. 6th. All athletes wishing to compete in the CA. State HS Invit must sign up on the day of the qualifying meet (Jan. 23, 2010). The cost of entering the CA. State HS Invit is $25.
EVENTS:
Running:
55m
55mHH
600y
800m
Mile
2 Mile
4 x 160m
4 x 400m
Field:
Pole Vault
High Jump
Long Jump
Shot Put
There will be a performance standard for each event for the athletes who do not qualify for the meet by place. This standard will be published at a later date.
Awards:
Special batons (gold, silver, bronze) will be given to the top 3 finishers in each event at the Feb. 6th meet.
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 9:34 AM from IP address 68.6.241.82
The indoor distance instead of 800M will be 600y as is often the case with indoor meets. The indoor 4x160 is the relay run by the Old Sunkist Meet(Franken Meets) in the LA Coliseum, obviously because the track is 160 in length. I'm assuming that the All-Comers meet will be run in the traditional 4x100 format for obvious reasons. However, I think the 600 will be held in yards as that is a feasible undertaking to adjust to on the track.
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:23 AM from IP address 68.6.241.82
Hi Coach,
Youth USATF meets the kids compete in their age group. Will the kids compete in their age at this meet?
Youth Divisions
Birth Years Age Range
Sub Bantam 2002-2003 7-8
Bantam 2000-2001 9-10
Midget 1998-1999 11-12
Youth 1996-1997 13-14
Intermediate 1994-1995 15-16
Young Men/Women 1992-1993 17-18
Assistant Hurdles Coach
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 12:28 PM from IP address 144.160.130.16
the information I posted is what has been decided up to this point. There will be a comprehensive outline of the logistics of the State Indoor Meet as well as qualifying times etc., posted on Dyestat in the next couple of weeks.
I will keep everyone posted as info comes in.
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 7:52 AM from IP address 68.6.241.82
So here's what I think to be the top 10 combined male and female programs this season:
1 Rancho Buena Vista
2 Torrey Pines
3 Poway
4 Rancho Bernardo
5 Mt Carmel
6 Cathedral
7 Escondido
8 Steele Canyon
9 Westview
10 La Costa Canyon
These are just my opinions. If a team has either side (boys or girls) pretty high but the other still good, such as Torrey, then their ranking went up. In other words, one side influenced the other.
Posted on Nov 3, 2009, 11:54 AM from IP address 69.105.138.144
Well, I feel as if this is incorrect.
the TP girls have been ranked as high as #1 in the nation and boys only about 4th or 3rd in County stuff. I would have to say that TP is the best combined team, where rbv sneaks in right behind them. with a number 1/2 boys team and a solid number 2 girls team, they only lose out to tp because the girls are ranked nationally. I think that the order clearly goes 1. TP 2. RBV. 3. Poway 4. RB
Posted on Nov 5, 2009, 11:04 PM from IP address 98.155.39.155
TP girls have never been ranked 1st nationally. It's always been Fayetteville-Manlius for the past two years(defending NXN champs), Saugus, and Saratoga Springs HS. I
Posted on Nov 6, 2009, 8:59 AM from IP address 76.93.132.156
It was a great race this morning...Meb looked great the entire way. Around mile 17-18 the pack went from 12 down to 6 and Meb was the only American left. Good job to Ryan Hall, Jorge Torre, and Abdi who were all top 10 I believe.
Posted on Nov 1, 2009, 9:40 AM from IP address 72.197.206.236
BOYS CROSS COUNTRY
Avocado League
Escondido 28, Mission Hills 28
At Jesmond Dene Park (3.1 miles)
Top 10 Individual Results
1. Barela (MH) 16:49; 2. Lui (MH) 16:56; 3. Arrellano (E) 17:15; 4. Guzman (E) 17:22; 5. Lloyd (E) 17:22; 6. Bierausel (MH) 17:23; 7. Munoz (E) 17:26; 8. Castellanos (MH) 17:36; 9. Rosas (E) 17:37; 10. Alvarez (E) 17:46.
Notable: Escondido won it on tiebreaker.
Record: Escondido 2-1
Coastal League Cluster Meet
At San Dieguito Park (3.0 miles)
Team Scores
San Dieguito Academy 20, Santa Fe Christian 83, Army-Navy 178
Individual Top 10 runners
1. Nate Burns (SDA) 17:45; 2. Brendan Junge (SDA) 17:46; 3. Andy Kramer (SFC) 17:50; 4. Evan Armstrong (SDA) 18:39; 5. Lane Jackson (SDA) 18:50; 6. Ryan O'Rourke (SFC) 19:23; 7. Jack Pace (SFC) 19:29; 8. Daniel McNeela (SDA) 19:34; 9. Zach Zounes (SDA) 19:38; 10. Chase Brokaw (SDA) 19:39.
Sheree Shea finished 2nd this morning at the West Coast Conference Championships, running 21:11 for 6k on the very difficult Crystal Springs course in Belmont, CA. Full results here:
http://wccsports.cstv.com/sports/c-xc/spec-rel/103109aab.html
Heather Z. also had a great race finishing 5th and helping her team to its first ever WCC team title.
Posted on Oct 31, 2009, 6:12 PM from IP address 76.233.10.215
Ok, this is an impossible task! That said, here we go... I grabbed 2.75 mostly Movin Shoes
and 3.0 which is a total mix from wicked fast Woodbridge, to City Course, ending with Mt. Sac.
All on Athletic.net. Some race in many ... others do not. So if you beat someone head-to-head
then you jump ahead. Sometimes there's a split, then use the next best distance to break time.
Anyhow grabbed the best 12 out of each distance, and then tried to slot them in the best order
with the above rules. Perfect, probably not--close (enough). A bunch of talented girls in this
class!!! PS I'm sure I missed someone, so please slot them in and correct. :>) Or rearrange?
1 Ashlyn Dadkhah Torrey Pines
2 Caitlin Krol Cathedral Catholic
3 Julia Yang Westview
4 Jessy Hansen University City
5 Soffe Watson Torrey Pines
6 Rachel Hiraoka Torrey Pines
7 Jamie Lynne West Ranch Buena Vista
8 Savannah Roberts Clairemont
9 Charlotte Kuzminsky Canyon Crest
10 Rebecca Rodriguez Valhalla
11 Madison Nocon Steele Canyon
12 Christine Kent Cathedral Catholic
13 Megan Gramlich University City
14 Maddy Ward Poway
15 Jenna Ingrande La Costa Canyon
16 Amanda Darouie Mission Hills
17 Brianna Bockman Canyon Crest
18 Roxanne Esquivel University City
2.75 Movin Shoes
10 Ashlyn Dadkhah 15:57
10 Julia Yang 16:20
10 Caitlin Krol 16:25
10 Soffe Watson 16:28
10 Rachel Hiraoka 16:52
10 Charlotte Kuzminsky 17:16
10 Rebecca Rodriguez 17:18
10 Madison Nocon 17:19
10 Christine Kent 17:32
10 Jenna Ingrande 17:37
10 Amanda Darouie 17:37
10 Brianna Bockman 17:41
3.0 City Course, Woodbridge & Mt Sac. Woodbridge times seem way fast, when compared to other races ???
10 Ashlyn Dadkhah 17:47
10 Caitlin Krol 18:16
10 Jessy Hansen 18:19
10 Jamie Lynne West 18:28
10 Savannah Roberts 18:29
10 Megan Gramlich 18:46
10 Julia Yang 18:50
10 Soffe Watson 19:03
10 Madison Nocon 19:08
10 Maddy Ward 19:12
10 Christine Kent 19:31
10 Roxanne Esquivel 19:32
Posted on Nov 1, 2009, 12:38 AM from IP address 24.176.183.3
they are a little disappointing for 2 reasons
1- they r OVERALL team rankings (not by division)
2- they show very little love to SDS
(TP girls are only listed team, falling to #4, and no boys teams present)
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 9:11 PM from IP address 71.136.44.163
The San Diego SoCal RoadRunners will be hosting a youth XC meet this weekend at Kit Carson Park in Escondido
come see some of the future State CIF Finalist
1 Derrick, Chris SO Stanford 4:32.7 22:35.41 1
2 Bethke, Brandon SR Arizona State 4:33.9 22:41.43 2
3 Heath, Elliott JR Stanford 4:36.0 22:52.01 3
4 Puskedra, Luke SO Oregon 4:38.7 23:05.04 4
5 Centrowitz, Matthew SO Oregon 4:39.5 23:09.35 5
6 Riley, Jake SO Stanford 4:40.2 23:12.71 6
7 Marpole-Bird, Justin JR Stanford 4:40.4 23:13.67 7
8 McNamara, Jordan SR Oregon 4:41.9 23:21.14 8
9 Anzures, Marco SR UCLA 4:42.6 23:24.50 9
10 Spady, Kelly SR Washington 4:42.8 23:25.62 10
11 Unterreiner, Miles FR Stanford 4:43.2 23:27.76 11
12 Gregg, Brendan JR Stanford 4:43.4 23:28.59 12
13 Mercado, Danny JR Oregon 4:44.7 23:34.85 13
14 Engelhardt, Ben JR Arizona State 4:44.8 23:35.63 14
15 Acosta, A.J. JR Oregon 4:45.4 23:38.50 15
16 Patterson, Marlon SR UCLA 4:45.5 23:38.80 16
17 Moeller, Mark SR Washington St. 4:45.7 23:39.86 17
18 Sodaro, Steve SR California 4:46.0 23:41.41 18
19 Johnson, Benjamin FR Stanford 4:47.1 23:46.88 19
20 Ige, Mohamud SR Arizona 4:47.3 23:47.96 20
21 Sullivan, J.T. SO Stanford 4:47.6 23:49.33
22 Helmer, Jeff JR Arizona State 4:47.7 23:49.95 21
23 Tully-Doyle, Colton SR Washington 4:47.8 23:50.45 22
24 Crabill, Alex SR UCLA 4:48.9 23:55.88 23
25 Hatcher, Dylan SO Arizona State 4:49.8 24:00.50 24
26 Ahlbeck, Sam SR Washington St. 4:49.9 24:00.88 25
27 Karlsson, Kari JR California 4:50.1 24:02.06 26
28 Milloy, Patrick JR Arizona State 4:50.6 24:04.40 27
29 Schmitt, Jake SR Washington 4:51.0 24:06.38 28
30 Swarthout, Jordan JR Washington 4:51.0 24:06.41 29
31 Bywater, Joey FR Washington 4:51.3 24:07.79 30
32 Mercado, Diego SR Oregon 4:51.7 24:09.69 31
33 Fleet, Mac FR Oregon 4:52.1 24:11.74 32
34 Burgess, Bryce FR Oregon 4:52.4 24:13.08
35 Happe, Nick FR Arizona State 4:53.5 24:18.73 33
36 Torres, Zack FR UCLA 4:54.5 24:23.80 34
37 Klotz, Kenny SR Oregon 4:55.2 24:27.26
38 Englund, Justin SO Washington St. 4:55.3 24:27.66 35
39 Van Patten, Zeke JR Arizona State 4:55.3 24:27.72 36
40 Fitzpatrick, Dylan SR Arizona 4:55.4 24:28.14 37
41 Quackenbush, Cameron SO Washington 4:56.2 24:32.10 38
42 Cameron, James FR Washington 4:56.5 24:33.49 39
43 McDonald, David SO UCLA 4:56.7 24:34.67 40
44 Webster Jr., Rob FR Washington 4:56.9 24:35.61
45 MacArthur, Brian SR Arizona 4:57.4 24:38.24 41
46 Appel, Evan FR Stanford 4:57.8 24:40.05
47 Kimpel, Andrew FR Washington St. 4:58.2 24:42.36 42
48 Poizat, Renaud FR California 4:58.3 24:42.66 43
49 Geib, Daniel SR Washington St. 4:58.8 24:44.96 44
50 McHenry, Mason FR Arizona State 4:58.9 24:45.65
51 Schmidt, Cody FR California 4:59.5 24:48.49 45
52 Ramirez, Noe FR Arizona 5:00.3 24:52.53 46
53 Lovell, Daniel SO Arizona State 5:00.3 24:52.56
54 Knight, Spencer SO UCLA 5:00.7 24:54.53 47
55 Jarvis, Collin FR California 5:00.7 24:54.57 48
56 Hassan, Abdi SO Arizona 5:01.7 24:59.34 49
57 Lafler, Jono SO Washington St. 5:01.8 25:00.06 50
58 Petersen, Matt FR California 5:02.4 25:03.16 51
59 Miller, Peter SO Washington St. 5:02.7 25:04.55 52
60 O'Donoghue-McDonald, Max SO Washington 5:04.4 25:12.79
61 Matthews, Jake JR UCLA 5:05.4 25:17.94 53
62 Mara, Jordan SO Arizona 5:06.9 25:25.46 54
63 Smargiassi, Dominic SR Washington St. 5:08.3 25:32.33
64 Hauer, Zack JR Arizona 5:10.0 25:40.62 55
65 Sullivan, Kevin JR UCLA 5:11.0 25:45.79
66 Schmidt, Simon FR California 5:15.4 26:07.61 56
67 McLeod, Rory FR Arizona 5:25.1 26:56.03
Team Scores
=================================================================================
Rank Team Total 1 2 3 4 5 *6 *7 *8 *9
=================================================================================
1 Stanford 28 1 3 6 7 11 12 19
Total Time: 1:55:21.56
Average: 23:04.32
2 Oregon 45 4 5 8 13 15 31 32
Total Time: 1:56:48.88
Average: 23:21.78
3 Arizona State 88 2 14 21 24 27 33 36
Total Time: 1:58:11.91
Average: 23:38.39
4 Washington 119 10 22 28 29 30 38 39
Total Time: 1:59:36.65
Average: 23:55.33
5 UCLA 122 9 16 23 34 40 47 53
Total Time: 1:59:57.65
Average: 23:59.53
6 Washington St. 163 17 25 35 42 44 50 52
Total Time: 2:01:35.72
Average: 24:19.15
7 California 180 18 26 43 45 48 51 56
Total Time: 2:02:09.19
Average: 24:25.84
8 Arizona 193 20 37 41 46 49 54 55
Total Time: 2:02:46.21
Average: 24:33.25
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 7:42 PM from IP address 69.229.62.68
By the way, the girl that got 2nd from Washington is wayyyyyy to thin. Nice to see that most of the girls look healthy and strong and not super thin and sickly.
Posted on Oct 31, 2009, 8:37 AM from IP address 24.94.14.46
The Ivy League Championship in Cross Country was held today in NYC.
The men's and women's races were examples of opposite ways to win as team.
In the women's race, Princeton held all 5 top places. That is correct, the team score was 15. Pretty hard to lose that way. This is reminiscent of the Stanford men a few years back winning NCAAs by dominating the top of the race. Their 6th man was in the top 10 but didn't point.
The only San Diegans I recognize are Sammy Silva (Harvard) at 12 (17:53.7, 5:46/5k ) and Lauren Pischel 13 (17:55.6 5:46).
The men's race was completely opposite: Every runner counts from 1-5 on every team.
Here are the first, second and fifth team scores:
1 Columbia Univ 60 = 5 8 12 15 20
Total Time: 2:08:52.6 ( 12) ( 25:46.5)
Brendan Martin; Kyle Merber; Terence Prial; Justin Heck; Anthony Merra
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2 Princeton 61 = 3 6 11 18 23
Total Time: 2:09:03.9 ( 11) ( 25:49.8)
Brian Leung; Donn Cabral; Rob Speare; Mark Amirault; Sean Wilson
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5 Brown Univ 106 = 2 7 10 43 44
Total Time: 2:10:39.5 ( 12) ( 26:08.9)
Christian Escareno; Duriel Hardy; John Loeser; Austin Snyder; John Haenle
Note that both Harvard and Brown undercut Columbia with their first three, but Columbia won based on its 4 and 5, beating Princeton by just 1 point.
Harvard finished 6th in spite of having the race winner.
Here is the link for others to identify more SoCal runners --
Lincon-Clairemont-Monte Vista Boys
Clairemont/Monte Visa matchup was not a league meet 3 miles
Place First Name Last Name Gr School Time Pace
===== ============ =============== == ======================== ===== =====
1 Dillon Breen 12 Monte Vista 15:46 5:16 (tie)
1 Eamonn McCarey 12 Clairemont 15:46 5:16 (tie)
3 Terry Winters 12 Monte Vista 15:55 5:19
4 Alfredo Beltran 11 Monte Vista 15:57 5:19
5 Matt Willette 10 Clairemont 17:28 5:50
6 Steven Lepe 9 Monte Vista 17:28 5:50
7 Tony Gonzales 12 Monte Vista 17:39 5:53
8 Adrian Daniels 11 Monte Vista 17:44 5:55
9 Isaac Lara 12 Clairemont 18:01 6:01
10 Jorge Morales 12 Monte Vista 18:03 6:01
11 Sergio Rios Abraham Lincoln 18:09 6:03
12 Miguel Juarez 11 Monte Vista 18:27 6:09
13 Jimmy Quach 9 Clairemont 18:50 6:17
14 Steven Martinez Abraham Lincoln 19:21 6:27
15 Michael Gasparro Clairemont 19:23 6:28
16 Victor Groesbeck 10 Clairemont 19:24 6:28
17 Carlos Bugarin 12 Monte Vista 19:41 6:34
18 David Pradel 9 Clairemont 19:53 6:38
19 Carlos Herrera Clairemont 19:55 6:39
20 Christopher Delara 10 Monte Vista 20:38 6:53
21 Dion Jones Abraham Lincoln 20:56 6:59
22 Bermeo Alan 12 Clairemont 21:00 7:00
23 Kevin Harmon Clairemont 21:16 7:06
24 Connor O'Gara 10 Monte Vista 21:38 7:13
25 Collin Harmon Clairemont 21:44 7:15
26 Alan Sackrider Clairemont 22:46 7:36
27 Enrique Rodriguez Clairemont 25:24 8:28
28 Dane Randolph 9 Monte Vista 25:31 8:31
29 Gabriel Goycoochea 10 Monte Vista 27:13 9:05
Team Scores Lincoln-Clairemont-Monte Vista Boys
1. 21 Monte Vista ( 16:33 1:22:45)
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1 1 Dillon Breen 15:46
2 3 Terry Winters 15:55
3 4 Alfredo Beltran 15:57
4 6 Steven Lepe 17:28
5 7 Tony Gonzales 17:39
6 ( 8) Adrian Daniels 17:44
7 ( 10) Jorge Morales 18:03
2. 38 Clairemont ( 17:54 1:29:28)
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1 1 Eamonn McCarey 15:46
2 5 Matt Willette 17:28
3 9 Isaac Lara 18:01
4 11 Jimmy Quach 18:50
5 12 Michael Gasparro 19:23
6 ( 13) Victor Groesbeck 19:24
7 ( 14) David Pradel 19:53
Posted on Oct 31, 2009, 11:54 AM from IP address 66.75.42.8
Lincon-Clairemont-Monte Vista Girls
Monte Vista / Clairemont was a non-league matchup 3 miles
Place First Name Last Name Gr School Time Pace
===== ============ =============== == ======================== ===== =====
1 Savannah Roberts 10 Clairemont 18:51 6:17
2 Besty Armitage 9 Clairemont 19:25 6:29
3 Tori Kutzner 9 Clairemont 19:27 6:29
4 Kemp Emily 10 Clairemont 19:51 6:37
5 Valerie Hycz 12 Monte Vista 20:53 6:58
6 Adriana Olmos 11 Monte Vista 21:19 7:07
7 Quinn Peterman 10 Monte Vista 21:33 7:11
8 Gabrielle Gomez 10 Monte Vista 21:44 7:15
9 McKenzie Johnson 10 Clairemont 22:21 7:27
10 Monica Costillo 9 Clairemont 23:04 7:42
11 Kristina Salgado 10 Clairemont 23:06 7:42
12 Erin Jasso 10 Monte Vista 23:55 7:59
13 Kimberly Scanlon 9 Clairemont 24:14 8:05
14 Shamonique Boyd 10 Monte Vista 25:03 8:21
15 Catherine Terry 10 Monte Vista 25:03 8:21
16 Stacey Medina 10 Monte Vista 25:05 8:22
17 Cynthia Valdez 11 Monte Vista 25:06 8:22
18 Anita Deodat 12 Monte Vista 25:07 8:23
19 Michelle Read 11 Clairemont 26:08 8:43
20 Jhaine Matthews 10 Abraham Lincoln 26:11 8:44
21 Nickole Avendado Clairemont 27:28 9:10
22 Maria Llamas 10 Monte Vista 28:10 9:24
23 Alicia Quevedo 9 Monte Vista 28:26 9:29
24 Morgaine Sharer 11 Monte Vista 30:38 10:13
25 Lexi Zamichieli Clairemont 30:39 10:13
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Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 12:17 PM from IP address 137.151.86.153
Ramona High School, North County - San Diego
Head Track & Field Coach wanted. See High School web site for
specific information. Boys Team was CIF D-2 Champs in 2008 and CIF D-2 Runner up in 2009. Great Town for High School Sports. www.ramonausd.net
Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 11:35 AM from IP address 209.66.200.49
We'll be going into the league finals part of our season in a couple of weeks and I'd like to set-up a Wiki for predictions and/or results. What I need are volunteers from the various leagues to take responsibility for results and color. Any takers?
-George Green
Posted on Oct 29, 2009, 7:27 AM from IP address 66.75.42.8
Can anyone show me a link or a breakdown guess of the top 10 div 1 & 2 Boys & Girls? Would like a individual seperate list of each, & having a hard time creating one of my own. Not familiar with some of the names I've come across. Thanks
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 12:44 PM from IP address 69.78.131.49
Real easy. If you look above on this page and click on the Athletic.net link it will take you to a main page where you will find all the division link. Click on the division you are looking for and it list the top 100 runners broken down by sexes and the times they ran for 5000 m. Now this list is only going to show those school/athletes who participate on that website. At least you can start with the list there and the fill in where needed.
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 1:24 PM from IP address 69.43.155.250
thanks for all the replies. Tried the link above & still am unfamiliar with which runners are Div 1 or 2. If any of you are familiar with the names & have time to make a break down list including any kids who arent updated currently on Athletic, it would be greatly appreciated
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 4:26 PM from IP address 66.174.93.51
Andrew Ward 15:39 5:02- So Cal
Jacob Roach 15:40 5:03- South Bay
Darren Fahy 15:42 5:04- Stanford
Cameron Barela 15:43 5:04- Showdown at Sundown
Chris Brewer 15:50 5:06- Stanford
Alfredo Rodriguez15:57 5:08- So Cal
Luis Medina 16:05 5:10- So Cal
Noah Resto 16:01 5:10- Stanford
Geoff Bogan 16:08 5:12- Stanford
Shinaola Agbede 16:11 5:13- So Cal
fastest 5Ks in SDS this year
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 7:56 PM from IP address 71.136.44.163
OK this brings up an interesting question
i thought tht tht was tru but if u check the doc on the cif sds website
they are in division 1
bonita vista is in division 2
but i quite clearly remember tht being switched
is there anwhere a list of d1 vs d2 list as per the TRUE cif
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 9:01 PM from IP address 71.136.44.163
for anyone with the same question
the answer can b found in the cif finals information link at the top of the page
to fill out the top 10 of my previous list
Alex Jafek has the next fastest 5K PR- a 16:12 at So Cal
but I would give the last spot in the top 10 to connor jaramillo, Poway's #1 who ran a great Mt Sac but whose 5K resume is poor simply because he has only run 1 5K a dual vs RBV
THere's some trivia for you...
The Poway Varsity XC team has run a grand total of ONE 5K race this year
Posted on Oct 30, 2009, 9:08 PM from IP address 71.136.44.163
All you need to do is go through the results from Mt SAC to see how the rankings are off. The front teams are fine but the 5 through 10 teams are off. Some teams should be ahead of others and other teams should be in the top 10 that aren't. Many mistakes but here is 1 major example:
Claremont girls not in the top 10 (You coaches are crazy)
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 9:16 AM from IP address 209.66.200.40
Probably not that far off on the guys side, though I still think Poway is beter than Patrick Henry. It's a toss up between them and RBV. I think Torrey definitely belongs in the top 4 discussion too.
On the girls side, Poway moved up...maybe too much (though, they did run well at SAC). Clairemont girls should be in the top 7.
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 11:30 AM from IP address 168.215.220.82
When did Clairemont beat LCC or Cathedral? LCC and Cathedral have not run their top girls all in one race in quite awhile. Coronado hasn't had a fully healthy group yet. Why not wait to the end of the year to make this list? And then, why even compare? LCC is D1 I think, Coronado is D4, Clairemont and Cathedral are D3 the only way you should compare is by Division...the rest should be just for fun.
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 3:21 PM from IP address 79.170.93.174
Rankings!!! Not who is going to beat who in 3 weeks. The papers are comparing a top 10 list of all divisions in san diego. And yes, clairemont did beat LCC full strength last weekend at the Jaguar Invite.
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 7:31 PM from IP address 98.176.83.9
Otay Ranch is the best south of the Highway 54 and West of the 125, up North of those Highways there are many good teams. They are defiantly in Top 3-4-5-6-7 range at CIF. It all depends on who is healthy the weather, tide, moon, and of course where Jupiter is.
Southbay Dude
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 8:53 PM from IP address 69.229.62.68
didnt i say earlier that the lady chieftains are gonna rock once CIF comes around, if there was like a fantasy cross country application i would pick em as my sleeper team. They are gonna surprise alot of people just wait.
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 9:57 PM from IP address 128.120.171.121
Westview High School is looking for some good track and field coaches for the 2010 season. If you are interested please contact Tim Medlock at (858)780-2000 x 3112 or Jamal Felton at (858)780-2000 x 3026.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 3:27 PM from IP address 209.66.200.61
Mt. SAC thrown a curve
Pasadena Star-News Online
College: Mt. SAC thrown a curve
Course improvements call into question the validity of new marks
October 18, 2001
By Richard Gonzalez
Staff Writer
October, 2000: Glendale Hoover High's Anita Siraki stuns the national prep
cross country community when she breaks the Mt. San Antonio College course
record by a stunning 17 seconds.
November, 2000: Big Bear High's Ryan Hall runs the Mt. SAC course in
14:28, slicing four seconds off Jeff Nelson's 22-year-old boys course
record.
November, 2000: Don Lugo High's Erick Maldonado smashes the sophomore boys
course record as five of the six fastest 10th-grade course times in
history are achieved. All told, a whopping 39 revisions are made to the
all-time grade lists.
Oddly enough, these standout runners have enjoyed ample success before and
since, but not quite to the degree achieved recently along the revered
2.95-mile Mt. SAC course.
Well, maybe it's because the course had been shortened to 2.91 miles.
Mt. SAC cross country women's coach Doug Todd has confirmed in three
separate interviews since last November that the course has indeed been
shortened, an end result of safety concerns, course upgrades and
environmental effects.
"We struggled not to make the changes, because the Mt. SAC course and the
meet are so steeped in history," said Todd, who oversees this weekend's
conclusion of the 54th annual Mt. SAC Cross Country Invitational, the
nation's largest.
"Some changes were unavoidable, but it doesn't make accepting the changes
any easier."
The most notable change was reconfiguring a portion of the "Valley Loop"
as a safety matter. With the number of entrants swelling to match the
meet's growth in popularity, maneuvering along the original course's
sharp, jutting turn less than a minute into the race created logistical
problems.
Mt. SAC staff changed it to a sweeping and easier to navigate path, which
Todd estimates cut about five seconds off each loop or 10 seconds per
runner off the double loop. If his estimate is accurate, that translates
to roughly a 50-second team-time (five runners) improvement over
"pre-renovation" years.
Additionally, heavy rains a few years ago caused erosion along some
patches of the course. Throw in the beautification steps imposed in recent
years a wider running path, planting of shade-producing trees along the
route, and considerable landscaping to improve footing and the
once-imposing course becomes a more inviting one.
"We try to respect history and tradition, yet safety becomes a factor too
... a much more important factor," said Mt. SAC men's coach Mike Goff, who
is the one entrusted with the upkeep of the course.
"If course historians have a problem with it, I understand," Goff added.
"At the same time, if we can improve the course to maximum conditions for
runners, that's great, too. Bottom line, the best teams and runners will
still win."
The only drawback now is that the ever-popular time comparisons by
generations of runners might lack integrity, since the course has changed.
It used to be when one California runner would meet another, the first
question was: "What's your best time at Mt. SAC?"
Regardless, the course still offers a tough test to challengers.
"Well, Mt. SAC's been too hot, too dusty, too slow, too crowded, too
hard," said Goff, echoing some critics over the years. "And now... they
say it's too fast. That's a new one."
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 12:48 PM from IP address 64.236.243.16
so poway and rbv have locked in the top 2 spots??
i think NOT
in my opinion otay ranch is very much alive
(VERY close to TP at SAC)
TP looks good
(won race at Mt SAC)
RBV just really turned on
(fastest team time at SAC)
RB has speed
(winner at Stanford)
Poway is alive
(consistently good)
it will a SUPER CIF race
and i surely surely don't think any 2 spots are locked in
Posted on Oct 26, 2009, 9:23 PM from IP address 71.136.44.163
Poway is far better than alive. They didnt run great at SAC, but they are much better than that race would show...as shown by their performances at Dana, RB dual, RBV dual, Laguna Hills, etc.
Posted on Oct 26, 2009, 11:42 PM from IP address 72.197.206.236
MT SAC scores based on time - if it were a five school race, were in this order - RBV (56), TP, OTAY/POWAY (these 3 very close - 74-77), Patrick Henry (86) and then RB (129) way behind. On a healthy day, these could change.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 6:46 AM from IP address 72.197.211.173
did you notice that RB's Geoff Bogan (who has beaten Andrew Ward twice before this race, who ran a 1520) ran a 16:25, 5 seconds ahead of their 3rd runner? And to go even further, that 3rd runner is usually 5th on the RB squad? How can you knock RB out when it appears they were either missing their 3 and 4 runners, or they were not full health. People have to look into things before jumping to conclusions. If everyone has a healthy/good day at CIf it will be a hell of a race. RBV put up strong numbers beating Poway in the team sweeps. TP and Otay ran well in the Individuals, along with Patrick Henry. RB and Poway didnt run to their top forms unfortunately for them. As of right now, there is no "set top 3" There are 5 very good teams that will all be chasing 3 spots. (I did not count PH in there solely because they are D-2).
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 9:41 AM from IP address 209.66.200.61
Re: still got 4 weeks...whomever staves off the flu the best will run in Fresno!!!
by Anonymous Coward
RBV and Poway will compete for 1st and 2nd. TP ran well at Mt SAC and proved that they will be a contender. RB ran poorly, as their 1, 3 and 4 runners were absent or unhealthy. Unlike Poway, who can have a few guys off their game and still compete, RB has no of depth. If everyone runs healthy and their best it will be a race for third.
Poway has beaten RBV, RB and TP. RBV has beaten Poway, RB and TP. RB has beaten TP and RBV. It should be extremely close with leagues being a great preview.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 2:18 PM from IP address 64.73.154.68
Yo let me throw this out there...remember it was said in a previous post that Brewer and Ward are the best LOOKING runners. That being said the results will be as follows.
1st: TP/RBV
3rd: Poway
4th:RB
and how did Otay get in this conversation they are straight up garbage.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 6:00 PM from IP address 66.75.140.154
wow dude. call otay ranch garbage? you are a douche. otay has quality runners (luiz medina and jacob effing roach) and last year they finished fourth in cif and only lost a few seniors to graduation. think about what you're talking about you ignorant creep.
Posted on Oct 27, 2009, 9:08 PM from IP address 72.197.211.104
you are way too cocky. its really pathetic. unless its some big joke that you keep up with your team mates and you think you are the funniest guy in the world.
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 7:51 PM from IP address 98.155.39.155
This years cif race will be a great one for sure. And has anyone noticed how tp's 2 and 3 runners are such a great team? and also i think poway and rbv are solid. rb is strong when their team puts together a good race. tp is looking fairly good and it looks like they're gonna peak at the right time
Posted on Oct 28, 2009, 6:24 PM from IP address 76.88.21.143
Since the race is over, how would most coaches say is the best way to run Mt. Sac? Pace yourself the first mile or take it out with the pack? Work the uphills or ease up a bit and smash the downhills? What combination seems to work best?
Posted on Oct 25, 2009, 9:54 PM from IP address 69.226.31.19
its good to run with the pack and stay relaxed because the beginning is very fast so you want to take advantage of it but kill yourself before the hill. as far as the hills go. definitely dont push them too hard because despite what some people say it is the downhills and the flats after the hills where the race is won.
Posted on Oct 25, 2009, 11:27 PM from IP address 76.88.21.143
its good to run with the pack and stay relaxed because the beginning is very fast so you want to take advantage of it but don't kill yourself before the hill. as far as the hills go. definitely dont push them too hard because despite what some people say it is the downhills and the flats after the hills where the race is won.
Posted on Oct 25, 2009, 11:27 PM from IP address 76.88.21.143
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