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  • The Trinity Didnt Start Until 325 AD
    • Squeaky
      Posted Aug 23, 2003 7:58 PM

      you said
      Second, You post from two Chapters of scripture that blatantly prove Jesus is God.

      First you post from John Chapter 17. What does John Chapter 17 say:

      Verse 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

      I said
      You have lost your mind. I didnt post verse 5 I posted 1 through 3. Now what did Jesus pray to God the Father.
      3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

      Jesus said very plainly that the Father is the only true God.
      Apparently you dont know what the word "one" means. Do you know what the word "only" means?
      Jesus said to the Father you are the "only true God".

      John 17:1-3

      1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
      2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
      3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

      And then you come back with some nonsense about Jesus being God because of verse 5

      John 17:5
      5 "And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

      Dont you even know that Jesus was the firstborn of all creation. God the Father created Jesus before He created anything else.

      Col 1:15
      15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

      And that make believe trinitarian mumbo jumbo stuff about incarnation is as make believe as the trinity. I think the next time you go to one of them trinitarian meetings and they pass you the peace pipe. You should double check which end your puffing from.
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