The best way to conquer sin. Is to believe in the One who can help us.
That's why I never stop believing that Jesus loves me. Because I will always have some sin in my life to ask Him to help me with. It doesn't matter what sin it is big, bad, ugly, they are all that way in His eyes.
My job is to stay on the Vine. I will, by believing in the one who can heal me and believing that He wants to.
<<< It doesn't matter what sin it is big, bad, ugly, they are all that way in His eyes. >>>
Christianity is totally corrupt. Imagine how unhealthy, unhelpful, and unloving it would be for a parent to view their childs's faults in this manner. And every bit of this perversion flows out of the effeminate, sentimental view of Christianity that basically all Christians have. Most people who have more than two brain cells know that their is a brutal assault on masculinity in the world. Why? Its corrupt and effect is so plainly seen, Mel Gibson's film being one graphic example. The film made absolutely no appeal to the rational, objective side of us, but assaulted our feminine, sentimental, emotional side. The film was all feelings and no information.
This message has been edited by oldmanrip on Sep 24, 2008 7:29 AM
Jesus didn't die because of His pity. He died because of His integrity. Don't people ever ponder the meaning of the Law? But of course, the radical shift to the NT (so called), and away from the OT is to insulate us from knowing this. The NT is not the new testament. It is merely commentary on the real New Testament which is the Torah and the Prophets. Its all there in what we call the OT.
Paris, you are a religious woman. There are fifty on every street corner. What I'm saying is that there is no shortage of people who think down the same ruts you do. Now many things you think are true, and I agree with them, but I don't think you are stretching peoples minds and carving inroads into the tide of tar that begin with leavened Church age, and perhaps reached its zenith the Dark Ages. Your mind needs to begin to process the possibility that there really is a conspiracy of information and teaching in this world, and that what is currently taught is a sentimental perversion of the truth.
Jesus didn't die because of His pity. He died because of His integrity.
Jesus died because He loved His creation. I don't know if He considered it "integrity" to save what He had made. I have always been taught He died because He loved us.
Scott; you say a lot lines that seem to be quick and off the cuff. They are of no use to me if I cannot understand them, so help me out here.
Paris said (and you cut from her full comments): "That's why I never stop believing that Jesus loves me. Because I will always have some sin in my life to ask Him to help me with. It doesn't matter what sin it is big, bad, ugly, they are all that way in His eyes."
I understand Paris to say that regardless of what sin a believer encounters (and we all have sin) Jesus continues to love us. Further, I assume Paris to also believe that when a sinner repents, acknowledges error, then forgiveness is realized.
So Scott, what corruption do you see in that ? You also say the following: "And every bit of this perversion flows out of the effeminate, sentimental view of Christianity that basically all Christians have. Most people who have more than two brain cells know that their is a brutal assault on masculinity in the world..."
Yesterday I tried to give you my view of life, and you said it was all truthful... I thought you meant to say such a view of life was reasonable. (but you felt I was covering up my error, for what you thought was a blanket statement about H avoidance).
Can you give us your view of life, in a similar fashion I did, so we can see what you are getting at ? Where do you see masculinity being challenged at seemingly every turn of life ? How do you view femininity as corrupting my view of life and how I respond to issues; I do have at least two brain cells, so I should be able to get it !
All I am saying about staying on the Vine is that it takes faith. I see no religion in faith.
For Scott to misconstrue what I wrote and add some requirement about some extra understanding that has to do with "tar", and "leavened church age" is religion.
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This message has been edited by pariskat... on Sep 24, 2008 8:52 AM
Hank and Paris, with respect, you do not have your head in the same space that I do. There is no possible way for you to understand what I am saying at this juncture. I would say our breakdown in communication is total. I don't think you even understand how far my head is from your space, and furthermore, I know your space intimately (I've been there), but you do not know my space. We shall wait and see. As this thing wraps up over the ages, you will begin to see then what I am saying now, and thats a promise.
<<< Scott; you say a lot lines that seem to be quick and off the cuff.>>>
Hank, I think about this stuff every day all day long. I am constantly trying to understand the world I live in, comprehend why the current formula of relgion isn't working, and to get a bigger picture of God's principles. My answers are quick because I am familiar with the material, both my positions as well as yours. It is that simple.
This message has been edited by oldmanrip on Sep 24, 2008 9:20 AM
Hank, you last requirement is absolutely fair. But where do I even begin. Many people on the ground level everwhere and from all walks of life are incredibly alarmed at how masculinity is being demonized and we are all being crammed into an effeminate mold. If you don't see this, then you are not even able to walk the path with me, and even if you did see this, how could I lead you from that earthly tangible understanding of cultural issues to where you saw that in the much larger perspective of the culmination of the rebellion against God. I don't even know where to begin. But let me say this, you will NEVER understand the true cosmic rebellion against the God of heaven without a full comprehension of masculine and feminine and their roles, responsibilities, and pitfalls.
As we lose our sense of the magnificent but complentary differences between masculine and feminine, we lose our potential for sacred marriages, and then we lose our potential to understand God because the marriage on earth is a perfect parallel of Christ and the Church.
The Satanist vision in 1998 in Sydney was to destroy the family. To destroy the family, all you need to do is destroy the vision of masculinity and femininity. To destroy the family start here. 1 Emasculate the man, make him weak, let the woman control him, and then she will despise him. 2 Convince the woman to desire the masculine role and then she will compete with the man, and believe me, a man is intrinsically incapable of loving a woman who competes with him.
OK Scott; so we know Satan is out to destroy anything good and he does it subtly. Who, beside the H church (in your eyes) is he using to accomplish this task of destroying the family , that fuzzes the lines of masc. and fem. ? Give us another example.
Give us another example, other then destroying the family as breaking the lines of masc. & fem. Or, is the family unit the sum total of this in your view ?
Can you elaborate (in your view), of my view of life in general how I fuzz the lines of masc & fem. I have, what I consider a stable home and family (although some of my kids have had some tough issues to deal with). There also was a time my wife and I sought counseling to get together on some issues. I considered such to be helps to healthy communication within a marriage.
You also are aware that I tend to tolerate other views, even when I disagree. Am I too tolerant ? Or am I tolerant in the wrong places ? Does a healthy understanding of masc. & fem. bring with it masc. authority that dominates ? or do you see such health as being respect by the fem. side without any authoritative dominance ? If that is the case then it seems to shift the blame to the fem. side... except that masc allows it to occur ??
Scott; I am honestly trying to understand; my questions may be too simple, but I need the base to start to understand.
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