http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81459

I don't recall the details, but I believe there have also been one or more cases where Holdemans tried to commit suicide when they were being worked over by the church.  That's a SAD story too.

Brent:

You're correct. I know that has happened as well. In one case a non-H minister witnessed someone about to commit/contemplating suicide and went and managed to talk the person out of it.

As far as the Dawkins book goes, I don't believe that reading it would cause a normal, healthy person to commit suicide. The father is obviously (and rightfully) distraught and grieving over the loss of his son, but to blame Dawkins is unfair, I believe.

Some more...


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/02/national/main4644133.shtml?tag=topHome;topStories>

I read a little more in to this than simply blaming Dawkins for everything. For instance, take the following statement:

Keith Kilgore told WND he feels, by allowing his son to move into the atmosphere of a secular school, like "I put a toddler in the front of my car."

My EX H brother told 5 people that he wanted to commit suicide in the 5 days before he was shot 9 times by a rookie cop. 3 of those people were H. He told that cop they could take him anyway they wanted to but they would not take him alive. 6 mos later he said, "I guess God knows more than I do," And having been there just after it happened I sure don't know how he survived it all and is able to function as good as he does. Nor do I have any idea of the events that have transpired in the past 3 weeks where he was reaccepted into the H. Partially due to the dogged determination of one man and the understanding of Bipolar illness on the part of a revival minister.

I have also seen a number of young people come into situations where they thought suicide was an option due to the struggles they were having over lots of things related to the H church and also the growing up process. and I also know what it is like to lose your mind over the whole church work thing. It is a process I do not ever care to repeat in this lifetime and would not wish on my worst enemy, nor will I ever knowingly participate in ever again.

sometimes there comes a limit to the lemonade that you can make with the lemons life hands you. And then you had better be ready for what God is ready to hand you, cause it may be totally different than what you think life should be like.

Love and prayers, Locklady

I sometimes do not understand why God has been so good to me. Yes there have been times when I wondered if God hated me. Being exed twice, being widowered twice I have had some challenges. And why what happens to other people I doubt if I will ever know here either. However i do know that for me to realize that I could not do it on my own, and to plead with God and to be willing to do whatever he wanted of me was a turning point in my life. And all the money and worldly wealth (That can evaporate very quickly if it is in stocks and real estate.) Is nothing compared to knowing that Christ died for my sins and has chosen me and I have accepted him.
I sometimes wish I could do more for ones who are hurting by the excommunication.
Howie7

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