August 24,2009 7:56 PM
Brent and Scott, I agree with you. Compassion, love and mercy needs to be extended to everyone.
I wish that good professional Christian counseling would have been available. calledoutPTL

What is judgmental about the above?

August 25, 2009 7:42 PM
I don't know what the statistics are now, but the Catholic religion use to have the least suicides in it then any other. Maybe it still does. calledoutPTL

What is judgmental about the above?

August 25, 2009 8:10 PM
Notg: In case you don't know the history of the h church, it is no different then any other churches. It has it's share of suicides. I could name 5-6 names of suicides without blinking an eye. H people have been murdered as well. There has been h people who have murdered others. They also have had people who have experienced divine protection as well as people in other churches have. All churches have some positives and negatives. I do know that a physician told me one time that the biggest number of people on antidepressants and tranquilizers were h Mennonites. He didn't know I was an ex'ed Mennonite. Medicine only treats the symptoms, it does not cure people. calledoutPTL

1)What dont you like about this? 2)The fact I dont think your church is any different then any other church? 3)Or that a physician (In Garden City, KS) told me that? 4)Or that medicine treats the symptoms and doesnt cure? 5)Why would you think this is judgmental about the h church or the h ministers? 6)Where did I blame those who were trying to help?

I also told healthie that some would be saved in the h church and some not like in any other church. What is judgmental about that? Or don't you agree?

I think you owe me an apology. In fact I never repeated any of the things I heard. I didnt know if they were true or not and I had several people, h and x-h tell me about this-all. (AS Steve would say, your spirit-o-meter isnt working this time.) They probably got it as straight as you did, and thought it was true as you thought you did. By the way I actually agreed with SOME of your postings on this subject and particularly about everyone involved would have a tremendous amount of guilt. calledoutPTL

Mr and Mrs. Calledout: I am sorry, I didn't realize you would take it quite like you did. What you were pointing out to me was not what I was referring to at all. I don't think I have your email. I would like to visit a little more about this, but I hesitate to do so here. There are things most of you probably don't know about this situation that may shed some light, but I'm not going to post that here. Feel free to email and will visit, but I will not get tangled up in a free for all here. Fred, Gm, Nas and others have my email. Thanks! Oh, incidentally re-reading your post to me where you have high lighted some posts, I agree with most of what you posted. I fully agree that compassion is needed first of all. I made a big mistake in using some names without proper justification, yours foremost. I'm sorry, but if you want to know what I was trying to say, email. I would've responded earlier, but I don't look up this forum very often.

Forreal, I've already admitted my blunder!

Forreal, I don't have your e-mail either. calledoutPTL