no pass

I am with Jack on this, this year with Hyak out we didnt go near as much as other winters, SIlver Firs is good for about 2 hrs then its so crowded and tracked out thats done, the rest of Central is now a terrain park, and the only part of the terrain park I like is the 1/2 pipe which they never opened this year! I like wild side area on west but its not open all the time and like Alpental, gets real crowded. If Hyak doesnt have a lift this year I will save my family pass money to go visit other ski areas next winter. And I have a place at Hyak I am at pretty much full time, so I really dont want to do this.