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I ask because I was wondering what the wheelbase and track of the kit are. I was thinking that maybe the chassis could serve as the base for a Beaverette Mk II.
got the wheelbase and track correct for the Austin Tilly they modeled. The chassis is very specialized though, fitting the body very tightly, so I don't know if it will do for a Beaverette armored car. Most of that can be scratchbuilt fairly easily; the wheels are the bear to do, and the kit wheels if usable would solve that problem. There are even some similarities to one or two of the other models of Tillies, and some adventurous soul might be able to build another make of Tilly if it were needed to match a photograph.
Actually I did look up the wheelbase for the Tilly and found it was 93". I also found there were at least 3 different saloon cars used as a base for Tilly's. I didn't know which the Tamiya kit represented nor could I find if the different versions had different dimensions. I couldn't find the the wheelbase of the Beaverette either, but I think I have that in some materials buried in my basement.
So, I figured that if I knew the dimensions of the Tamiya kit, I could match it with the 1/35 Beaverette I do have.
Not a big deal really. I plan buying a Tilly or 2 anyway.
the Austin 10 motor car, probably the most common model of the Tilly. I think you could convert the Tamiya Austin-based Tilly into a Morris or Hillman model without too much work. Your mileage may vary.....
For those of you who are a bit curious about the afore mentioned Beaverette armoured cars, I thought I would post plans for the Beaverette Mk.III to give you a mental picture of the little devil. They certainly are tiny, but seem to have got the job done guarding airfields etc.
My father saw one of these being used in Bath, Somerset. He was about 10. The Home Guard contingent shouted BANG three times, and then the Hofficer ordered them to engage an imaginary panzer approaching from their rear. "Don't be daft!!' shouted one of the gunners, "they'd never get a tank down that road!!"
I guess the Germans would have been laughing so hard it would be easy to capture them.
It kinda reminds me of a Kiwi 'homemade' tank the Bob Semple.
Basically a tractor with corrigated iron sheets tacked on and a couple of machine guns hehe.
...the true nature of the English common man, he'd have taken a pass on Poland and France, gone straight to Barbarossa in the fervant hope our mob ignored them.
In reply to your original post the Tilly wheels won't do a Beaverette, they will be too narrow and the hub detail is completely different.
The wheels from the Sdkfz222 look to be the right size, you could add the centre detail, such as it is, to the central well directly on a disc of plasticard with a rim from strip. There is a hefty mounting on the rear which will make attachment a breeze.
I'd print out the drawing George Bradford has posted and double check it as I'm on a notebook computer at the moment.
You could replace the Sdkfz roadwheels with the open spoke type fitted to some vehicles from the front of the Steyr Kommandeurwagen.
Can't get one in UK for love nor money.
My LHS hasn't had his supply from importer yet, AND they've reputedly been out since the end of January. Come on Hobby Co, what ou playing at?
Shermans vs Germans, the Big Cat killer Ants RULE M4!
My LHS got me one but I did order it before Xmas, its a lovely kit but the british importers have it listed at £14.99!!!!
The shop owner phoned them to check, as he was a little shocked
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Austin cars from the Tilly kit, both saloons and tourers..... As far as I can tell from photos and specifications, all the models had the same wheelbase, 88", so making 2- and 4-door saloons should proceed nicely using the kit chassis. I have complete interiors and photos of these things in use by British armed forces. Would there be a market for these?
Bruce, do you have any pictures of tillies in holland or Germany? Are there any near tanks or were they just rear echelon vehicles? Were any used as ambulances?
most of my pictures are off the web, and they are of various preserved or restored vehicles in the UK. Great for modeling the things, but not so good for verifying military use in combat zones. Tillies were used in Africa to a large extent as basic utility cars. Note that the Germans captured a number of these, and used them extensively, as short of vehicles as they usually were. The military pix I have aren't dated or identified as to location or unit. I haven't tried to locate the combat uses yet, since I don't have even one Tilly kit yet - no one in this area carries the new Tamiya stuff. I had to order my Marders from Lucky.....
DAK Tillie pics?? Please publish them, or the links to them!!
The kit is very nice.....and, I have a question. If you leave off the tarp, and the rear jump seats....was there a curtain/tarp that could close off the drivers area from the elements....and make it look more like a pickup? I would think there was, unless the way the kit is done was the only option available.
TIA, Dave
The shots of a "captured" German Tilly turned out to be....a British Tilly. I mistook the shape of the British desert pith helmet for the DAK pith helmet. I did find shots of Tillies in winter use. Bear in mind I haven't been able to go through the IWM collection to pick out Tilly shots. I may have to do that and do the Bundesarchiv site on Google to find captured Tillies in German service. There is no doubt the German got numbers of Tillies early in the war. The British used a lot of vehicles that really were not tactical types, but instead converted civilian models. Insp.ite of the lack of military tchnical features, such as 4 wheel drive and raised chassis for better ground clearance, these vehicles generally gave good service on roads or flat ground, which was the case in much of Europe and North Africa. I need to find more photos of Tillies in action
It looks pretty nice overall, though the chassis pan is like the Ford sedan with its one-piece molded drive shaft in place...... There is a lot that can be done with this kit, but I'll have to find more photos of Tillies in service.
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There is a lot that can be done with this kit, but I'll have to find more photos of Tillies in service.